Bush says SHOW ME THE (QB) MONEY! (1 Viewer)

[ExaltedOne]

http://www.fflivewire.com/Article.asp?ID=z...20like%20a%20QB

Bush says he expects to be paid like a QB

Associated Press

4/27/2006

Reggie Bush, the Heisman Trophy- winning tailback from the University of Southern California, said he's hoping to be paid like a quarterback if the Houston Texans make him the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft.

Bush, 21, said he doesn't care that the highest-paid NFL running backs on average make about 31 percent less than the highest-paid quarterbacks.

"The history says quarterbacks get paid more than running backs, but I think it depends on the caliber of the player -- what you're getting, not just what the position is," Bush said Thursday at the NFL's draft media luncheon in New York.

The Texans have said they plan to take either Bush or North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams and are negotiating with the agents for both players. Bush said he doesn't know whether an agreement can be reached between his agent, Joel Segal, and the Texans before the draft starts in two days.

"You can never say it's going good," Bush said. "The other side doesn't want to give out too much money, and you want the most money you can get."

Segal didn't return a telephone message left at his office.

Last year's No. 1 pick, quarterback Alex Smith, signed a six-year contract worth $49.5 million with the San Francisco 49ers. In 2004, quarterback Eli Manning received a six-year, $54 million contract with the New York Giants, a record for a rookie. Quarterback Carson Palmer signed a six-year, $49 million deal with the Cincinnati Bengals in 2003.

The last running back taken with the NFL's No. 1 draft pick was Ki-Jana Carter, who signed a seven-year contract worth $19.2 million with Cincinnati in 1995. The average salary of the 10 highest-paid quarterbacks in the NFL last season was $8.8 million compared with $6.1 million for running backs.

Bush, who also played receiver and returns kicks and punts, said his versatility warrants money like Smith, Manning and Palmer received.

"Those are all things that I plan to do in the NFL, so you could look at it from the perspective that you're getting four players in one," Bush said.

Lets just hope he puts up fantasy numbers of four players too!

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Red Flag #2. First his parents, now attitude regarding money.

 

[nightshift]

If he doesn't have a contract by noon Saturday, I think he can wave good-bye to being #1 pick.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's a special player no doubt. However, if he busts, he'll go down as the biggest bust of all-time. Lot's of pressure.

 

[P Boy]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client to get their name on the map. To get Reggie Bush in the fold, they offered his family a house to live in for free for a couple of years at the very least. So Reggie's family moved into the house while Reggie played at USC. After Reggie finished his career at USC and was getting ready for the NFL draft, he reneged on the deal with New Era.

In the meantime, one of the gang banger owners of New Era had to prove in a court of law per his parole stipulation that he was being a citizen rather than a career criminal. He offered up to the court his ownership of New Era & New Era's client, Reggie Bush as proof of his being a productive citizen rather than a scourge to society (that's where the story broke in the first place). That started a reporter from either Yahoo! Sports and/or the Miami Herald sniffing around. As soon as they started asking Reggie's family questions, his family literally bugged out of the house within 24 hours but claimed they paid all rent while they lived there.

Now New Era, getting screwed both by Reggie when he jumped ship on them as well as by Bush's family for living in the house rent free for two years, went with what they know best - criminal behavior - and tried to extort Bush because of the previous illegal deal that he agreed to for the use of the house. Bush didn't go for that and there appears to be an investigation into the extortion by New Era. In the meantime, one of New Era'a owners, Michael Michaels, is now suing Bush's family for $54,000 in rent they never paid to live in the house.

And the whole time, Reggie tells us he doesn't know anything about this, he did nothing wrong, and that he's a great human being of the highest order.

Sounds like we've got a bunch of people in bed with each other, all deserving of each other, trying to screw the others for everything they can - including darling Reggie.

I'll say it again, if I'm an NFL GM facing paying a guy like Reggie - a guy who apparently knowingly entered into an illegal deal, risking his entire college football program the whole time, a kid who doesn't mind making deals with nefarious agencies run by gangsters and then crossing them, a kid who apparently will do whatever he has to to benefit himself & his family financially regardless of what he has to promise or do to get the benefit - a close to $30M signing bonus on top of his rookie contract, I'm passing on him in a heartbeat & taking Mario Williams with the #1 pick.

Call me cynical, but I'm expecting some significant problems in Bush's future, whether it's with this New Era nonsense or further down the road when his greed, selfishness, and lack of character surface again during his NFL career.

 

[msommer]

If this is not worked out and soon Domanick Davis and his FF owners are going to be pretty happy campers!

 

[Joseph]

If this is not worked out and soon Domanick Davis and his FF owners are going to be pretty happy campers!

I'm enjoying every minute of this, and am SO happy I didn't trade him for a 2nd round rookie pick.

 

[Boston]

If the Texans provide free housing for Reggie's family does that lower his asking price? If it includes utilities does that reduce it also?

This kid is a player but he's been piling up some luggage at an alarming rate recently. Whether it's enough to scare off the Texans is still to be determined (and probably doubtful). The Houston front office is basically putting the future of the franchise in the hands of this #1 pick and extending David Carr. If they don't hit on both these moves they will dig themselves a hole that will take years to get out of. Should be interesting.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If Alex Smith got that kind of money, I think Reggie's worth atleast that. Smith isn't half the prospect Reggie is. If he entered this year he'd of been the 4th picked QB.

 

[Payne]

I would pass on this guy. Seriously.

 

[ExaltedOne]

If Alex Smith got that kind of money, I think Reggie's worth atleast that. Smith isn't half the prospect Reggie is. If he entered this year he'd of been the 4th picked QB.

Finally some words of sanity.

 

[Boston]

The problem using Alex Smith is two fold;

1) He's a Qb and that position gets more $.

2) San Fran admits they overpaid because they needed to show they were a franchise willing to commit to winning. Therefore other teams probably look at his contract as not reflecting the correct market while Bush will obviously say otherwise.

 

[BigRed]

1) He's a Qb and that position gets more $.

[bush]oh stop throwing facts n stuff into this discussion I'm a football god [/bush]lol @ this yutz.

 

[Banger]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client to get their name on the map. To get Reggie Bush in the fold, they offered his family a house to live in for free for a couple of years at the very least. So Reggie's family moved into the house while Reggie played at USC. After Reggie finished his career at USC and was getting ready for the NFL draft, he reneged on the deal with New Era.

In the meantime, one of the gang banger owners of New Era had to prove in a court of law per his parole stipulation that he was being a citizen rather than a career criminal. He offered up to the court his ownership of New Era & New Era's client, Reggie Bush as proof of his being a productive citizen rather than a scourge to society (that's where the story broke in the first place). That started a reporter from either Yahoo! Sports and/or the Miami Herald sniffing around. As soon as they started asking Reggie's family questions, his family literally bugged out of the house within 24 hours but claimed they paid all rent while they lived there.

Now New Era, getting screwed both by Reggie when he jumped ship on them as well as by Bush's family for living in the house rent free for two years, went with what they know best - criminal behavior - and tried to extort Bush because of the previous illegal deal that he agreed to for the use of the house. Bush didn't go for that and there appears to be an investigation into the extortion by New Era. In the meantime, one of New Era'a owners, Michael Michaels, is now suing Bush's family for $54,000 in rent they never paid to live in the house.

And the whole time, Reggie tells us he doesn't know anything about this, he did nothing wrong, and that he's a great human being of the highest order.

Sounds like we've got a bunch of people in bed with each other, all deserving of each other, trying to screw the others for everything they can - including darling Reggie.

I'll say it again, if I'm an NFL GM facing paying a guy like Reggie - a guy who apparently knowingly entered into an illegal deal, risking his entire college football program the whole time, a kid who doesn't mind making deals with nefarious agencies run by gangsters and then crossing them, a kid who apparently will do whatever he has to to benefit himself & his family financially regardless of what he has to promise or do to get the benefit - a close to $30M signing bonus on top of his rookie contract, I'm passing on him in a heartbeat & taking Mario Williams with the #1 pick.

Call me cynical, but I'm expecting some significant problems in Bush's future, whether it's with this New Era nonsense or further down the road when his greed, selfishness, and lack of character surface again during his NFL career.

PB

 

[fruity pebbles]

The problem using Alex Smith is two fold;

1) He's a Qb and that position gets more $.

2) San Fran admits they overpaid because they needed to show they were a franchise willing to commit to winning. Therefore other teams probably look at his contract as not reflecting the correct market while Bush will obviously say otherwise.

Maybe it shouldn't get more money, especially straight out of the draft. RBs have a shorter career length and are ready to play from day one. QBs bust at a higher rate and often sit and do nothing for the first year or two.

 

[Boston]

The problem using Alex Smith is two fold;

1) He's a Qb and that position gets more $.

2) San Fran admits they overpaid because they needed to show they were a franchise willing to commit to winning.  Therefore other teams probably look at his contract as not reflecting the correct market while Bush will obviously say otherwise.

Maybe it shouldn't get more money, especially straight out of the draft. RBs have a shorter career length and are ready to play from day one. QBs bust at a higher rate and often sit and do nothing for the first year or two.

Not saying your points aren't valid but the powers that be have determined otherwise and that's how the market has been set.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I'd also question the numbers given for the ten highest paid QBs and RBs. Those numbers are based on last year. Edge and Alexander just signed big money deals which will raise the average RB salary. And the QB numbers are inflated due to the fact that the last 3 #1 picks have been QBs.

 

[BlueOnion]

I think Bush is just angling the #5 angle; if he gets quarterback money, is listed as a quarterback then the league will have to let him wear #5.

 

[TME]

If the Texans do not want to pay "QB # 1 pick money" to an RB, then they should trade down and let someone come up that wants Leinart so a QB can get the #1 money. Personally, I think it's ridiculous argument. So, Bush is the bester overall player in the draft - #1 on everyone's board, but the Texans are suggesting that if he wen #1 vs. Leinart, that Leinart, who is probably #2 - #3 on most big boards would be paid more if he went #1 though he is not the #1 overall player, but is a QB.



Personally, I think the #1 pick should get #1 pick money...period. They pay for the draft positions is essentially sloted.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Call me cynical

You're cynical.

 

[tommyGunZ]

The problem using Alex Smith is two fold;

1) He's a Qb and that position gets more $.

2) San Fran admits they overpaid because they needed to show they were a franchise willing to commit to winning. Therefore other teams probably look at his contract as not reflecting the correct market while Bush will obviously say otherwise.

Maybe it shouldn't get more money, especially straight out of the draft. RBs have a shorter career length and are ready to play from day one. QBs bust at a higher rate and often sit and do nothing for the first year or two.

QB is the most important position on the field and has the biggest effect on wins and losses. QB's should be paid more than any other position.

 

[P Boy]

Call me cynical

You're cynical.

:rimshot:

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Is this the thread where we all jump in and criticize a professional for angling for a higher salary?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Personally, I'm disgusted by Bush and his antics. I strongly believe this stuff should affect his draft position, and the first seven teams should definitely avoid this punk.

 

[Traders2001]

He's a special player no doubt. However, if he busts, he'll go down as the biggest bust of all-time. Lot's of pressure.

I predict he will be the biggest bust in history right ahead of Lawrence Philips and Ryan Leaf.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Personally, I'm disgusted by Bush and his antics. I strongly believe this stuff should affect his draft position, and the first seven teams should definitely avoid this punk.

That's a quote I would love to see from you over in the FFA.

 

[Traders2001]

If Alex Smith got that kind of money, I think Reggie's worth atleast that. Smith isn't half the prospect Reggie is. If he entered this year he'd of been the 4th picked QB.

Cmon Alex Smith was a mistake, they overpaid him plus he should not even have been picked in the first round he is a worthless loser.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Personally, I'm disgusted by Bush and his antics.  I strongly believe this stuff should affect his draft position, and the first seven teams should definitely avoid this punk.

That's a quote I would love to see from you over in the FFA.

 

[TheLaw]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client to get their name on the map. To get Reggie Bush in the fold, they offered his family a house to live in for free for a couple of years at the very least. So Reggie's family moved into the house while Reggie played at USC. After Reggie finished his career at USC and was getting ready for the NFL draft, he reneged on the deal with New Era.

In the meantime, one of the gang banger owners of New Era had to prove in a court of law per his parole stipulation that he was being a citizen rather than a career criminal. He offered up to the court his ownership of New Era & New Era's client, Reggie Bush as proof of his being a productive citizen rather than a scourge to society (that's where the story broke in the first place). That started a reporter from either Yahoo! Sports and/or the Miami Herald sniffing around. As soon as they started asking Reggie's family questions, his family literally bugged out of the house within 24 hours but claimed they paid all rent while they lived there.

Now New Era, getting screwed both by Reggie when he jumped ship on them as well as by Bush's family for living in the house rent free for two years, went with what they know best - criminal behavior - and tried to extort Bush because of the previous illegal deal that he agreed to for the use of the house. Bush didn't go for that and there appears to be an investigation into the extortion by New Era. In the meantime, one of New Era'a owners, Michael Michaels, is now suing Bush's family for $54,000 in rent they never paid to live in the house.

And the whole time, Reggie tells us he doesn't know anything about this, he did nothing wrong, and that he's a great human being of the highest order.

Sounds like we've got a bunch of people in bed with each other, all deserving of each other, trying to screw the others for everything they can - including darling Reggie.

I'll say it again, if I'm an NFL GM facing paying a guy like Reggie - a guy who apparently knowingly entered into an illegal deal, risking his entire college football program the whole time, a kid who doesn't mind making deals with nefarious agencies run by gangsters and then crossing them, a kid who apparently will do whatever he has to to benefit himself & his family financially regardless of what he has to promise or do to get the benefit - a close to $30M signing bonus on top of his rookie contract, I'm passing on him in a heartbeat & taking Mario Williams with the #1 pick.

Call me cynical, but I'm expecting some significant problems in Bush's future, whether it's with this New Era nonsense or further down the road when his greed, selfishness, and lack of character surface again during his NFL career.

PB

I think Bush's step dad is/was also somehow involved with New Era. Michaels now suing for past rent plus $3M in punitives or something is a huge **** move.Rent, while usually paid in montly increments, doenst necessarily have to be paid like that. They should have worded the lease differently.

Bush is still the #1 player in this draft and Houston makes a mistake is they take Mario Williams IMHO.

 

[WhoDat]

Bush is still the #1 player in this draft and Houston makes a mistake is they take Mario Williams IMHO.

I agree 100% but if Bush's signability is going to become an issue, as well as the potential for an onslaught of brutual bad press, I can see the Texans passing. McNair has made it clear either Williams or Bush is to have signed on the line that is dotted prior to noon tomorrow. The other item that keeps creeping up for me is the draft that had the Texans take Carr and pass over Peppers. Does that have some or any sort of impact on the Texans' thought process? Lastly, Bush floated a little radio presser gem the day after the Rose Bowl, which I caught live so no link, that I cannot black out. He said he was not thrilled with the idea of playing in Houston, as it was small and in the south. Yes, the weather is a little tough but Houston is one of America's largest metropolitan areas and Houston is one of the south's more progressive areas.Now, claims from the Bush camp he wants paid. Period. I agree Bush should go first but there is enough that has gone on or is currently taking place that I would not be shocked to see the Texans do something else with the #1. Would it be right, given the perceived talent level? No, but I can see McNair being completely turned off and investing his money in a safer play.

 

[dickey moe]

Personally, I'm disgusted by Bush and his antics. I strongly believe this stuff should affect his draft position, and the first seven teams should definitely avoid this punk.

I wonder who has the #8 pick... HMMMMMMMM????

 

[bagger.]

Red Flag #2. First his parents, now attitude regarding money.

you've got to be here.

 

[bagger.]

Is this the thread where we all jump in and criticize a professional for angling for a higher salary?

$$ jealousy once again rears its ugly head in the shark pool.

 

[EBF]

He's a special player no doubt.  However, if he busts, he'll go down as the biggest bust of all-time.  Lot's of pressure.

I predict he will be the biggest bust in history right ahead of Lawrence Philips and Ryan Leaf.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Red Flag #2.  First his parents, now attitude regarding money.

you've got to be here.

No fishing. I understand the guy is posturing somewhat. That said his negotiating posture is going to make him difficult to sign unless he backs away somewhat. If I'm a GM I weigh signability and character for the guy I am about to make the face of my franchise. I'm not suggesting this posture makes him damaged goods to the point that he slides to the middle of the first round or even out of the top five. I am suggesting these red flags will be calculated by Houston who does have alternatives. Factoring in these admittedly small items together with the fact that he is not a 'need' position and with the fact that Williams has a similarly high grade at a 'need' positon may make Houston take pause.

 

[P Boy]

Factoring in these admittedly small items together with the fact that he is not a 'need' position and with the fact that Williams has a similarly high grade at a 'need' positon may make Houston take pause.

Especially with HOU looking at going to a 4-3.

 

[gang-wars]

Regardless of how much he should get compared to Alex Smith, whatever he gets will make him the highest paid RB in the league.

The NFL really needs to step in and limit these rookie contracts. You have teams wanting to trade out of the top spots to avoid the cap committee you have to make. The players should be all for it, more cap room for vets.

 

[3nOut]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client to get their name on the map. To get Reggie Bush in the fold, they offered his family a house to live in for free for a couple of years at the very least. So Reggie's family moved into the house while Reggie played at USC. After Reggie finished his career at USC and was getting ready for the NFL draft, he reneged on the deal with New Era.

In the meantime, one of the gang banger owners of New Era had to prove in a court of law per his parole stipulation that he was being a citizen rather than a career criminal. He offered up to the court his ownership of New Era & New Era's client, Reggie Bush as proof of his being a productive citizen rather than a scourge to society (that's where the story broke in the first place). That started a reporter from either Yahoo! Sports and/or the Miami Herald sniffing around. As soon as they started asking Reggie's family questions, his family literally bugged out of the house within 24 hours but claimed they paid all rent while they lived there.

Now New Era, getting screwed both by Reggie when he jumped ship on them as well as by Bush's family for living in the house rent free for two years, went with what they know best - criminal behavior - and tried to extort Bush because of the previous illegal deal that he agreed to for the use of the house. Bush didn't go for that and there appears to be an investigation into the extortion by New Era. In the meantime, one of New Era'a owners, Michael Michaels, is now suing Bush's family for $54,000 in rent they never paid to live in the house.

And the whole time, Reggie tells us he doesn't know anything about this, he did nothing wrong, and that he's a great human being of the highest order.

Sounds like we've got a bunch of people in bed with each other, all deserving of each other, trying to screw the others for everything they can - including darling Reggie.

I'll say it again, if I'm an NFL GM facing paying a guy like Reggie - a guy who apparently knowingly entered into an illegal deal, risking his entire college football program the whole time, a kid who doesn't mind making deals with nefarious agencies run by gangsters and then crossing them, a kid who apparently will do whatever he has to to benefit himself & his family financially regardless of what he has to promise or do to get the benefit - a close to $30M signing bonus on top of his rookie contract, I'm passing on him in a heartbeat & taking Mario Williams with the #1 pick.

Call me cynical, but I'm expecting some significant problems in Bush's future, whether it's with this New Era nonsense or further down the road when his greed, selfishness, and lack of character surface again during his NFL career.

If Michael Michaels is suing The Bush family for back rent, then that means nothing was ever given to them for free and that a rent payment was always expected. The Bush family did nothing illegal, just didn't pay their rent on time (and we are assuming that a monthly payment was stated in the lease). If this is the case, Bush can simplay sign a new contract with his new team and pay the back rent. All will be good.

 

[P Boy]

If Michael Michaels is suing The Bush family for back rent, then that means nothing was ever given to them for free and that a rent payment was always expected. The Bush family did nothing illegal, just didn't pay their rent on time (and we are assuming that a monthly payment was stated in the lease). If this is the case, Bush can simplay sign a new contract with his new team and pay the back rent. All will be good.

Sweet! That means I can order and receive anything that is paid in installments & legally not have to pay for it until I'm sued for payment!YES!!!

Many thanks for the sage legal advice!

 

[Joseph]

If Michael Michaels is suing The Bush family for back rent, then that means nothing was ever given to them for free and that a rent payment was always expected. The Bush family did nothing illegal, just didn't pay their rent on time (and we are assuming that a monthly payment was stated in the lease). If this is the case, Bush can simplay sign a new contract with his new team and pay the back rent. All will be good.

Sweet! That means I can order and receive anything that is paid in installments & legally not have to pay for it until I'm sued for payment!YES!!!

Many thanks for the sage legal advice!

I would also imagine that the fact that they were planning on paying the back rent "later" means that Bush DID know about the arrangement. Or his parents were just assuming he'd bail them out after he got paid.

 

[gang-wars]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client to get their name on the map. To get Reggie Bush in the fold, they offered his family a house to live in for free for a couple of years at the very least. So Reggie's family moved into the house while Reggie played at USC. After Reggie finished his career at USC and was getting ready for the NFL draft, he reneged on the deal with New Era.

In the meantime, one of the gang banger owners of New Era had to prove in a court of law per his parole stipulation that he was being a citizen rather than a career criminal. He offered up to the court his ownership of New Era & New Era's client, Reggie Bush as proof of his being a productive citizen rather than a scourge to society (that's where the story broke in the first place). That started a reporter from either Yahoo! Sports and/or the Miami Herald sniffing around. As soon as they started asking Reggie's family questions, his family literally bugged out of the house within 24 hours but claimed they paid all rent while they lived there.

Now New Era, getting screwed both by Reggie when he jumped ship on them as well as by Bush's family for living in the house rent free for two years, went with what they know best - criminal behavior - and tried to extort Bush because of the previous illegal deal that he agreed to for the use of the house. Bush didn't go for that and there appears to be an investigation into the extortion by New Era. In the meantime, one of New Era'a owners, Michael Michaels, is now suing Bush's family for $54,000 in rent they never paid to live in the house.

And the whole time, Reggie tells us he doesn't know anything about this, he did nothing wrong, and that he's a great human being of the highest order.

Sounds like we've got a bunch of people in bed with each other, all deserving of each other, trying to screw the others for everything they can - including darling Reggie.

I'll say it again, if I'm an NFL GM facing paying a guy like Reggie - a guy who apparently knowingly entered into an illegal deal, risking his entire college football program the whole time, a kid who doesn't mind making deals with nefarious agencies run by gangsters and then crossing them, a kid who apparently will do whatever he has to to benefit himself & his family financially regardless of what he has to promise or do to get the benefit - a close to $30M signing bonus on top of his rookie contract, I'm passing on him in a heartbeat & taking Mario Williams with the #1 pick.

Call me cynical, but I'm expecting some significant problems in Bush's future, whether it's with this New Era nonsense or further down the road when his greed, selfishness, and lack of character surface again during his NFL career.

If Michael Michaels is suing The Bush family for back rent, then that means nothing was ever given to them for free and that a rent payment was always expected. The Bush family did nothing illegal, just didn't pay their rent on time (and we are assuming that a monthly payment was stated in the lease). If this is the case, Bush can simplay sign a new contract with his new team and pay the back rent. All will be good.

Wow, all those crazy boosters couldn't find a way around NCAA rules. You did it in 2 minutes! Otherwise everyone who is heading to the NFL would get cash, cars, free housing. Just pay it back next year! Or not. A loaner house saying "pay me when Bush goes pro" is clearly against the NCAA rules.

 

[3nOut]

If Michael Michaels is suing The Bush family for back rent, then that means nothing was ever given to them for free and that a rent payment was always expected. The Bush family did nothing illegal, just didn't pay their rent on time (and we are assuming that a monthly payment was stated in the lease). If this is the case, Bush can simplay sign a new contract with his new team and pay the back rent. All will be good.

Sweet! That means I can order and receive anything that is paid in installments & legally not have to pay for it until I'm sued for payment!YES!!!

Many thanks for the sage legal advice!

I would also imagine that the fact that they were planning on paying the back rent "later" means that Bush DID know about the arrangement. Or his parents were just assuming he'd bail them out after he got paid.

What makes you assume that Reggie DID know anything about the arrangements his parents had with them? We don't know that for certain. He may or may not have. Most kids don't know the details of their parents finances, did you at his age? Now lets assume this scenario: his parents made a deal to pay rent for the house with back payment to be made after he signed with an NFL team (they were probably also hoping he would sign with them as his agents). Since he didn't sign with them, they sued for the rent money they were owed. Reggie did nothing wrong, USC did nothing wrong. The point is, until all the details become available we don't really know what the arrangements really were. Only time will tell.

As for Pony Boy's statement, theoretically you can. But then if they sue, you have to either pay or return the item. In the Bush's case, since they cannot return the service of providing residence, that have to pay for that service in full. I never said they did not have to pay for it. If you want to risk not paying for something and risk getting sued, paying legal costs, and ruining you ceredit hisrtory, then sure, go for it.

 

[Fullback Fro]

If he doesn't have a contract by noon Saturday, I think he can wave good-bye to being #1 pick.

You are sadly mistaken. Bush will go #1 regardless if there is no contract in place. Bank on it.

 

[Warpig]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client

I agree with you totally except for this part. New Era has actually been around for a while. They have had several high profile clients...especially in the MLB (they have several commercials). So they didn't NEED Reggie. Here's a thought...maybe Reggie had previous gang relations. Maybe before he got to college and made a name for himself. I mean, the guy does run like he's running for his life.

He better watch who he pisses off. You don't wanna rub gang bangers the wrong way. Houston should be cautious...Reggie could end up dead soon.

 

[TME]

What's going on with Bush is nothing compared to the Manning fiasco two years ago. Not only was Manning not signed by the Chargers, he did not want to play for them and was threatening to miss the entire season if need be. Guess, what, the Chargers took him #1 overall anyway. When you have a marque player, the #1 pick is decided for you. You have to take the guy.

 

[P Boy]

As for Pony Boy's statement, theoretically you can. But then if they sue, you have to either pay or return the item. In the Bush's case, since they cannot return the service of providing residence, that have to pay for that service in full. I never said they did not have to pay for it. If you want to risk not paying for something and risk getting sued, paying legal costs, and ruining you ceredit hisrtory, then sure, go for it.

Thank you, Mr. Williams Jennings Bryan. You legal expertise knows no bounds.

 

[P Boy]

What's going on with Bush is nothing compared to the Manning fiasco two years ago. Not only was Manning not signed by the Chargers, he did not want to play for them and was threatening to miss the entire season if need be. Guess, what, the Chargers took him #1 overall anyway. When you have a marque player, the #1 pick is decided for you. You have to take the guy.

Well, thank goodness SD got rid of Brees so Eli could get some playing time!

 

[ConstruxBoy]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client

I agree with you totally except for this part. New Era has actually been around for a while. They have had several high profile clients...especially in the MLB (they have several commercials). So they didn't NEED Reggie. Here's a thought...maybe Reggie had previous gang relations. Maybe before he got to college and made a name for himself. I mean, the guy does run like he's running for his life.

He better watch who he pisses off. You don't wanna rub gang bangers the wrong way. Houston should be cautious...Reggie could end up dead soon.

I think you're thinking of a different company named New Era.

 

[P Boy]

So, with all the new information out, this is pretty much what we can gather:

New Era was formed by several people, including gang bangers. They went after high profile Reggie Bush as their first premier client

I agree with you totally except for this part. New Era has actually been around for a while. They have had several high profile clients...especially in the MLB (they have several commercials). So they didn't NEED Reggie.

I was not aware of this. So why did the gang punk testify in court about his part in the ownership of New Era & drag Bush into the testimony rather than just providing documentation of the company's success with other clients? That doesn't make sense to me.

 

[TME]

What's going on with Bush is nothing compared to the Manning fiasco two years ago.  Not only was Manning not signed by the Chargers, he did not want to play for them and was threatening to miss the entire season if need be.  Guess, what, the Chargers took him #1 overall anyway.  When you have a marque player, the #1 pick is decided for you.  You have to take the guy.

Well, thank goodness SD got rid of Brees so Eli could get some playing time!

Eli was drafted by San Diego. I do not follow you.