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This division is looking like it's going to be a scramble for 9 wins and the Raiders could definitely surprise with their last place schedule.

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This division is looking like it's going to be a scramble for 9 wins and the Raiders could definitely surprise with their last place schedule.
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.Also, no such thing as a last-place schedule since most of their games were determined years in advance.

 
It would be nice if the Raiders could win the division, but all they have shown thus far is that they are better than Cleveland and Miami, and that Tom Cable is a God (New O-line coach).

They are in first place because they are on a bye, and the rest of the AFC West (Moe, Larry, and Curly) is flopping.

I am still looking to 2008. The one thing I am excited about is that they appear to be the only team in their division going in the right direction.

Chargers will win the division. My guess is relatively easily.

 
Raiders have a chance. A much bigger chance than expected.

 
Most importantly, who is starting at RB this week for the 1st place Raiders?
Bye week news is tough to come by. I don't think anyone has an answer for you.Lamont has a back that has bothered him for a while, and injured it on a harmless looking play. When is he back? I haven't seen an answer. And when he's back, are the Raiders going to just give him the rock? Again, no one knows, but with Rhodes, Fargas, and Bush waiting in the wings, I would expect some kind of RBBC.

I would hate to be counting on Lamont. Bad backs don't go away, and the most minor tweak can sideline a guy in the 1st quarter. I could easily envision a situation where Lamont isn't on the injury list, and leaves a few games early with spasms. Back injuries are fantasy landmines.

Fargas at best is a RBBC guy. He is just too small framed, has an injury history, and doesn't avoid collision. And hey, I like the guy. My guess is the Raiders would prefer to keep him in the 10 carry neighborhood, unless the NFL allows us to play Miami every week.

Rhodes doesn't have Fargas' big play capability, steadiness and ability to play this scheme are his best assets. I could see him varying wildly in his carries. 5 one week, 15 the next. Again, just a guess. If Lamont went down, I don't think the Raiders first choice would be to plug in Rhodes for 20 carries and 4 catches. Fargas would get some looks.

Bush is the wild card, and more of a lottery ticket for this season. It's not even certain that he'll be activated after Week 6. Kiffin made some nice comments about Bush recently, igniting some rather optimistic expectations on Raider message boards. He is certainly big enough to carry the load, but he's coming off a broken leg, we have no idea how he'll take to this scheme, if he can help out in the passing game.

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Monday A.M. update

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Monday at 11:57 am

LaMont Jordan and Josh McCown were not present as the Raiders went through warmups and drills preceeding their actual practice.

 
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Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.

It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".

 
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
 
LaMont Jordan-RB-Raiders Oct. 8 - 3:01 pm et

LaMont Jordan (back) and Josh McCown (feet) missed the portion of Raiders practice that is open to the media Monday.

Derrick Burgess (calf) was at the workout, and looks set to resume starting against San Diego. Jordan would be a weak fantasy play against the Bolts, but make sure he resumes working out this week if you have to use him.

Source: Oakland Tribune

 
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
Talk about objectivism. :scared: The AFC West is an incredibly soft division this year, and given how KC, DEN and SD have played this year, it is not unreasonable to assume the Raiders can compete with any of them this year.Looking at the rest of their schedule, I think an 8-8 season is also a reasonable outcome, and again, given how weak this division is looking at this point in time, a few extra wins could indeed help them win the division with a relatively mediocre record compared to other AFC teams.Not saying it's going to happen, but to say that a division title is completely out of reach isn't exactly right, either.
 
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.
If you did, then they were wrong. SD plays NE and Baltimore while the Raiders play Cleveland and Miami. Other than that, their schedules are the same.
Also, no such thing as a last-place schedule since most of their games were determined years in advance.
Yes there is. The AFC West plays the AFC South and the NFC North. Then the Chargers get NE and Baltimore, both first in the East and North.The Chiefs get Cin and NYJ, both second in the East and North. The Broncos get Pit and Buf, both third in the East and North.The Raiders get Mia and Cle, both last in the AFC East and North.
 
Stompin said:
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
Talk about objectivism. :hey: The AFC West is an incredibly soft division this year, and given how KC, DEN and SD have played this year, it is not unreasonable to assume the Raiders can compete with any of them this year.Looking at the rest of their schedule, I think an 8-8 season is also a reasonable outcome, and again, given how weak this division is looking at this point in time, a few extra wins could indeed help them win the division with a relatively mediocre record compared to other AFC teams.Not saying it's going to happen, but to say that a division title is completely out of reach isn't exactly right, either.
Not to mention the Raiders already competed with the Broncos in Denver. That game was very close and the Raiders should beat them at home.
 
Could you kindly tell me when was last time that Raiders beat an AFC West team?

Rest assured, the Raiders are still the WORST team in the division.

 
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.
If you did, then they were wrong. SD plays NE and Baltimore while the Raiders play Cleveland and Miami. Other than that, their schedules are the same.
Actually, he's right...technically. When you take into account the overall strength of schedule from 2006. The Chargers have 2 games against the 2-14 Raiders, and the Raider have 2 games against the 14-2 Chargers.
 
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.
If you did, then they were wrong. SD plays NE and Baltimore while the Raiders play Cleveland and Miami. Other than that, their schedules are the same.
Actually, he's right...technically. When you take into account the overall strength of schedule from 2006. The Chargers have 2 games against the 2-14 Raiders, and the Raider have 2 games against the 14-2 Chargers.
:thumbup:
 
Could you kindly tell me when was last time that Raiders beat an AFC West team?Rest assured, the Raiders are still the WORST team in the division.
The winds of change are howling, brother.Broncos and Chiefs both look inferior to the Raiders as of the 1st quarter of this season.
 
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.
If you did, then they were wrong. SD plays NE and Baltimore while the Raiders play Cleveland and Miami. Other than that, their schedules are the same.
Actually, he's right...technically. When you take into account the overall strength of schedule from 2006. The Chargers have 2 games against the 2-14 Raiders, and the Raider have 2 games against the 14-2 Chargers.
;)
 
Could you kindly tell me when was last time that Raiders beat an AFC West team?Rest assured, the Raiders are still the WORST team in the division.
Good point, that Raiders / Broncos game IN DENVER was not even close. You are right, this is pretty cut and dry.
 
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Raider fans have every right to crow about being in first place right now. Good luck to ya this weekend.

 
Pretty sure I saw on a broadcast a few weeks ago that the Raiders' opponents had the highest combined win percentage in 2006.
If you did, then they were wrong. SD plays NE and Baltimore while the Raiders play Cleveland and Miami. Other than that, their schedules are the same.
Actually, he's right...technically. When you take into account the overall strength of schedule from 2006. The Chargers have 2 games against the 2-14 Raiders, and the Raider have 2 games against the 14-2 Chargers.
Oops... :wall: Fortunately for us Raiders fans, the Chargers aren't nearly as good as they were last year...
 
^^^^^^^^^^^ 20-5. you know your team is bad when they can only move into first place during their bye week
Actually, it says a little more about the division they are in than it does about them... And I don't think they're bad. They're decent.
 
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
 
HAHA

CHIEFS......are 4-3

Jarrad Page is becoming a Raider killer....intercepted Aaron Brooks last season in the endzone w/ under a minute to play to seal a 4-point win IIRC, and today he intercepts Culpepper with under 1:00 to play to seal a 2 point win.

Oh and BTW, KC has now won NICE in a row against the the Faiders!

 
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
When was the last time Kansas City even got to the super bowl? :unsure:
 
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
When was the last time Kansas City even got to the super bowl? :banned:
BusterTBronco is a Chief fan?
 
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Blue-Kun said:
BusterTBronco said:
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
When was the last time Kansas City even got to the super bowl? :cry:
And the Raiders haven't been there in 20+ years.
 
Blue-Kun said:
BusterTBronco said:
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
When was the last time Kansas City even got to the super bowl? :lmao:
And the Raiders haven't been there in 20+ years.
:thumbup: 2003 down?
 
Blue-Kun said:
BusterTBronco said:
Um, I don't believe it is possible to win a division without actually winning a divisional game.It's funny how these Raider fans win one game against an 0-5 Miami team and suddenly they think they have the right to start talking "Division Title".
On the one hand, improvement by a bad team is going to lead to fans getting outrageous expectations. On the other other hand, I think most Raider fans think they have a ways to go.On yet another hand, the division appears to be weak.And on yet another hand, I wouldn't be barreling into threads calling out fans that haven't been bragging that much, after Norv Turner just steamrolled my team, at home, for our 3rd loss in a row.
Hey Raider Fan,Wake me up when you guys actually win an AFC West game (maybe next year sometime)Until then, enjoy your semi-permanent place in the AFC West BASEMENT!
When was the last time Kansas City even got to the super bowl? :lmao:
And the Raiders haven't been there in 20+ years.
:thumbup: 2003 down?
I keep forgetting that one, seeing as they forgot to show up and all.
 
Kevin Ashcraft said:
HAHACHIEFS......are 4-3Jarrad Page is becoming a Raider killer....intercepted Aaron Brooks last season in the endzone w/ under a minute to play to seal a 4-point win IIRC, and today he intercepts Culpepper with under 1:00 to play to seal a 2 point win.Oh and BTW, KC has now won NICE in a row against the the Faiders!
Nice in a row? Really? Interesting.
 
Oh, I beg to differ. You're the fan of the team with the 2-5 record, not me.

The Raiders ARE who we thought they WERE.

Bad. Quite bad.

 
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