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Buy Low / Sell High (1 Viewer)
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SieteCinco
Footballguy
End of week 1 approaching, time to take advantage of 80% of the fantasy owners second guessing some of their draft picks!
Buy Low:
Owen Daniels: 1 catch for 12 yards, but Houston went into the half with a 34 point lead, and ran the ball 41 times compared to just 24 pass attempts. Kevin Walter now out with a broken collar bone, and Daniels should benefit the most from this.
Lee Evans: He helped him team out a lot more than his stat line shows (0 catches, 0 yards,) clearing out the safeties for everyone else on the offense. Flacco led the league in TD's of 20+ yards last year.. and his top five targets were Mason, Housh, Boldin, Heap, and Rice... none of them are among the leagues best deep threats. Evans is, or at least has the talent to be. Ravens also looked great.
Nate Burelson: Had a decent day catching 5 balls for 60 yards, but if you believe Stafford can stay healthy, and have watched their games... you know there are going to be a LOTS of fantasy points to go around here.
DeAngelo Williams: AZ completely sold out to stop the run, and DeAngelo was met in the backfield nearly every play. Newton showing he has game should take some pressure off the run game, and DeAngelo historically takes a few games to get going (see 2008, 2009 seasons after each BYE week)
Jimmy Graham: He had a good game, but as the season goes on his value will only rise. Colston now out, so there goes Graham's main comp in the red zone.
Mark Ingram: NO was behind the entire game, and people watching may view be viewing him as a third string back right now behind Sproles/Thomas. The team said they were going to ease him in, but he did receive the most carries and was in on the final play of the game. This team will put up points, and he's the touchdown guy here.
Sell High:
Cam Newton: AZ COMPLETELY sold out to stop the run, and blew numerous coverages.
Mike Tolbert: In a start 3 RB league i'm in, a team that's really thin at RB just offered me Arian Foster straight up for Mike Tolbert. This person does live near SD, but still. Capitalize people thinking week 1 is the tell all for the season.
Buy Low:
Owen Daniels: 1 catch for 12 yards, but Houston went into the half with a 34 point lead, and ran the ball 41 times compared to just 24 pass attempts. Kevin Walter now out with a broken collar bone, and Daniels should benefit the most from this.
Lee Evans: He helped him team out a lot more than his stat line shows (0 catches, 0 yards,) clearing out the safeties for everyone else on the offense. Flacco led the league in TD's of 20+ yards last year.. and his top five targets were Mason, Housh, Boldin, Heap, and Rice... none of them are among the leagues best deep threats. Evans is, or at least has the talent to be. Ravens also looked great.
Nate Burelson: Had a decent day catching 5 balls for 60 yards, but if you believe Stafford can stay healthy, and have watched their games... you know there are going to be a LOTS of fantasy points to go around here.
DeAngelo Williams: AZ completely sold out to stop the run, and DeAngelo was met in the backfield nearly every play. Newton showing he has game should take some pressure off the run game, and DeAngelo historically takes a few games to get going (see 2008, 2009 seasons after each BYE week)
Jimmy Graham: He had a good game, but as the season goes on his value will only rise. Colston now out, so there goes Graham's main comp in the red zone.
Mark Ingram: NO was behind the entire game, and people watching may view be viewing him as a third string back right now behind Sproles/Thomas. The team said they were going to ease him in, but he did receive the most carries and was in on the final play of the game. This team will put up points, and he's the touchdown guy here.
Sell High:
Cam Newton: AZ COMPLETELY sold out to stop the run, and blew numerous coverages.
Mike Tolbert: In a start 3 RB league i'm in, a team that's really thin at RB just offered me Arian Foster straight up for Mike Tolbert. This person does live near SD, but still. Capitalize people thinking week 1 is the tell all for the season.
supersecretid
Footballguy
Lol, Foster straight up for Tolbert? Seriously? Hope you jumped on it.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
If you can sell Britt really high, I would. He had a joke of 80 yard td and is known for completely disappearing for games. Not even value but if you can get a Larry Fitzgerald type for him I would.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Probably looking more at the Brandon Lloyd/Mario Manningham tier for him. I don't see anyone giving away a top 10 for the guy just yet.
Britt is better than both those guys. Why would he do that?
Im looking to get Deangelo. Brandon Lloyd/Mario Manningham fro Britt is more sideways than selling high IMO.
Good luck getting Mendy. The owner is one of my leagues benched him and started Benson and Wells. That was a tough call but worked out nicely, I dont think I could have made that call regardless of matchup
Good luck getting Mendy. The owner is one of my leagues benched him and started Benson and Wells. That was a tough call but worked out nicely, I dont think I could have made that call regardless of matchup
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Banger
Footballguy
It's a "tough" situation because a guy like me that targetted Britt isn't going to give up after a good week, it essentially just reinforces what I've thought all offseason. I believe in his ability and he's the only WR on the offense so he's going to get everything. Realistically, for where I took him he could be a home run so the only way I deal is for a Roddy White type of guy which isn't going to happen. There's no reason whatsoever that he can't be this year Lloyd. He's going to get tons of opportunity, they aren't going to be sitting on many leads so the passing game will always be involved and he's actually very talented. He'd actually be a guy that I'd look to "buy high" and package a Ryan Grant or others that may look to have diminishing value this year in the event the owner just picked Britt and doesn't really realize what he may have....
Tanner9919
Footballguy
buy fred Jackson low ( if you can).he's going to be a stud fantasy RB this season..
buy low:
Ben Tate (if you can get him)
Anthony Armstrong
E. Dickson
J. McKnight ( how long will the Jets stay with Shonn Greene and not give someone else a shot?)
Kolb
B. Gibson
N. Burleson
Niners defense
Sell High
Rex Grossman
Jamaal Charles - it's going to be a very long season in KC...if the Chiefs can't sustain drives Charles won't get his numbers, he won't produce at a level anywhere near his ADP..the loss of C. Weis was on full display yesterday, I think this offense will struggle this season...
M. Stafford - he can't possibly stay healthy, can he?
M. Vick - Eagles' o-line was shaky and Vick did a lot of running which eventually might catch up with him
buy low:
Ben Tate (if you can get him)
Anthony Armstrong
E. Dickson
J. McKnight ( how long will the Jets stay with Shonn Greene and not give someone else a shot?)
Kolb
B. Gibson
N. Burleson
Niners defense
Sell High
Rex Grossman
Jamaal Charles - it's going to be a very long season in KC...if the Chiefs can't sustain drives Charles won't get his numbers, he won't produce at a level anywhere near his ADP..the loss of C. Weis was on full display yesterday, I think this offense will struggle this season...
M. Stafford - he can't possibly stay healthy, can he?
M. Vick - Eagles' o-line was shaky and Vick did a lot of running which eventually might catch up with him
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Britt is a hold and ride if you have him.If you're to acquire, I would def bring up his knuckleheaded past when negotiating a trade. He has to sustain his level for a full year or two before he can command tier one/two pricing.
eaglesfan7
Footballguy
Buy low:
Mario Manningham - receiver will have some big games with Nicks always banged up and the Giants injuries on defense
Jamaal Charles - last season may have been a fluke and Weiss is gone but he is going to catch a ton of passes
CJ2K - yes, some owners will sell and he'll bust out for 200 yards
Do NOT buy low:
Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
Sell high:
Fred Jackson
Tanner9919 said buy low on the Ben Tate (100 and a td), Fred Jackson (over 100) and 49ers defense lol, they only scored 40 points in some leagues and Kevin Kolb? He had over 300 yards and 2 tds. Do you know what 'buy low' means?
Mario Manningham - receiver will have some big games with Nicks always banged up and the Giants injuries on defense
Jamaal Charles - last season may have been a fluke and Weiss is gone but he is going to catch a ton of passes
CJ2K - yes, some owners will sell and he'll bust out for 200 yards
Do NOT buy low:
Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
Sell high:
Fred Jackson
Tanner9919 said buy low on the Ben Tate (100 and a td), Fred Jackson (over 100) and 49ers defense lol, they only scored 40 points in some leagues and Kevin Kolb? He had over 300 yards and 2 tds. Do you know what 'buy low' means?
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
Exactly. The other point I'd make is: What can you realistically get for him right now? Whatever it is, it doesn't have the upside of Steve Smith. Their defense is BAD and the QB has a cannon arm. You have to love the opportunity.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Smith will not have many, if any, games that good again this season, or in his career probably.AZ totally sold out on stopping the run, which leaves S.Smith in single coverage, and in many cases, blown coverage.. This won't happen again..Smith will still be a good WR2-3 this season, but this game was an anomaly for him..
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I think you have a strange definition of "buy low."
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
These are not "Buy Low" candidates after 1 game.
Vincent Jackson
Jamaal Charles
Chris Johnson
Rashard Mendenhall
Dwayne Bowe
No one with any sense who paid a 1-3rd round pick for one of these guys is going to give up after 1 game...
Vincent Jackson
Jamaal Charles
Chris Johnson
Rashard Mendenhall
Dwayne Bowe
No one with any sense who paid a 1-3rd round pick for one of these guys is going to give up after 1 game...
Nice list so don't want to appear nitpicking but would have to completely disagree with buying Lee Evans. Personally, I just dropped him to waivers in a 10-teamer.Reasoning is two-fold
1) the knock on him has always been inconsistency and the change of scenery was an opportunity for him to raise his floor significantly with BAL (my expectations were at least 3-5 catches / 50-60yds). Now he is squarely back in the boom / bust category and way to risky to start as anything othere than a WR3 where you have two other solid starting options.
2) Obviously in deep leagues this wouldn't be the case, but generally there are plenty of other matchup WR3 options for any given week sitting on the waiver wire.
eaglesfan7
Footballguy
Definitely. I'm going after him this week.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Sell high on Tolbert.
doowain
Footballguy
Yep. And he was wide open on a 40+ yard TD, but Rivers barely overthrew him in the EZ.
doowain
Footballguy
I think you overestimate the competition.
gkza
Footballguy
The O-line stinks? Mankins is first team All-Pro Center and Ferguson persistenly keeps the opposing pass rusher away from the QB. Please explain.
dagwood
Footballguy
Depends on your definition of high.In a PPR league, Tolbert is going to be a solid play with upside.Sell High - Steve Smith of Carolina
dagwood
Footballguy
I think the Colts are going to awful. I don't expect Manning to play at all this year. I think the record will be terrible by the time he will be considering coming back and they will shut him down.
jaylasoul14
Footballguy
I think the rams WR are buy low, i give them a mulligan since they played the eagles pass D which lets face it has a ton of talent. Now with Danny out, either Sims Walker or Gibson will put up WR2 numbers. There is no way Orton is better than Bradford and he put up prolific numbers under Josh McDaniels.
bengalbuck
Footballguy
I disagree with the buy low mention of Deangelo Williams multiple times.
Carolina has run that Auburn-style Cam Newton running the ball play a bunch near the goal line and it has been effective. I think he is the de facto goal line RB.
So if you aren't getting many rushing TDs from Deangelo, where is his value coming from? He's not going to catch the ball much either. It's just rushing yards and not much else...
Carolina has run that Auburn-style Cam Newton running the ball play a bunch near the goal line and it has been effective. I think he is the de facto goal line RB.
So if you aren't getting many rushing TDs from Deangelo, where is his value coming from? He's not going to catch the ball much either. It's just rushing yards and not much else...
dagwood
Footballguy
Agreed.
I think the trick to this exercise is identifying players drafted High, that performed well week 1, but we know is a mirage. Something like selling Reggie Wayne, Matt Forte or Greg Jennings. Noone is going to trade Vincent Jackson for Kenny Britt or Chris Johnson for Tolbert assuming you play in a normal league. Can we try and identify these players?
Also, of use would be to identify players that we learned something about to target that might trick the other owner to thinking they're selling high.
Example: Steve Smith (If we think he's back), Matt Stafford (If he's really a top 5 can be had for the price of Matt Ryan prob right now)
Also, of use would be to identify players that we learned something about to target that might trick the other owner to thinking they're selling high.
Example: Steve Smith (If we think he's back), Matt Stafford (If he's really a top 5 can be had for the price of Matt Ryan prob right now)
Good points, though I think VJax and Britt are very close and wouldn't blink if someone gave VJax for Britt. I wouldn't buy Blount or DeAngelo, but I would be interested in acquiring Mendenhall at a slight discount if the owner isn't happy.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Yep, I was just offered AJ Green for him in a keeper (NON-PPR). I'm not going to do it.
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Resident A
Footballguy
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
I own him & Matthews in a PPR league & I am trying to sell high. However, the only offer I have so far is Avant for Tolbert. No way would I do that.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
I can only buy low and sell high, based off of one game, in my family/friends leagues.
But, I will be buying CJ2K, Manningham, Jackson...and just about every other good player that had a down game.
But, I will be buying CJ2K, Manningham, Jackson...and just about every other good player that had a down game.
fightingillini
Footballguy
This.I live in CAR and saw the game.....I could have almost completed that pass to Smith when he went for that 75 yard TD......he was THAT wide open.'Carolina Hustler said:
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Plenty of evidence lately (last season, and so far this season) to prove otherwise.I've owned Greene in a dynasty since he was a rookie and he looks the same to me. He's not going to be an every week starter. Bye week fill-in at best, and you'd better hope they're playing a weak team when you start him.'Resident A said:
Concept Coop
Footballguy
CJ, sure. I think they are both tier 1 options. In PPR, it would take two Mendenhalls to get Foster from me. Also, if you were under the impression that a good game from Tate would threaten Foster's touches, you should have traded Foster before the game. The Colts weren't going to stop the Texans from running, regardless of who got touches.Foster is still the guy when he comes back.'howo5 said:
fightingillini
Footballguy
You take VJax over Britt in a heartbeat. Now I think Britt is going to be a solid #2WR, but the TEN pie isn't going to be that big. Rivers is going to throw for close to 300 yards everyweek. VJax is going to get his.....he just had a bad game....all WRs have them.Good luck getting Mendenhall cheap. He actually got off to a good start yesterday, but once PIT started turning the ball over and got way behind, he had no opportunity. PIT played their toughest game by far....their schedule is easy the rest of the way.'todisco1 said:
