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BUY LOW:

*Chad Johnson - probably the last week to do it

*Santana Moss - the coaching staff will realize that this guy gives them a good chance every time he gets a touch

*Mark Clayton - emerged a little last week, may have to wait another year before you get his true potential (by then the price will be too high)

*Samkon Gado - may not be the most talented, but gets the job done, Ron Dayne?

*Dom Davis - if he comes for nothing why not?

*Matt Jones - relatively quiet after all the hype, still very talented

*Kevin Jones - guy is running hard and catching the ball well (but the big numbers are missing), as this offense progresses so will he

SELL HIGH:

*Lav Coles - great start, Pennington scares me (injury), Coles has trouble staying healthy, 29 in Dec

*Chris Henry - like the talent, but Housh and Chad have to get theirs, also dont like headcases (rarely do they change)

*Tatum Bell - any time you can get great value for a Denver RB you have done well

*Reggie Wayne - i read an article on him (sorry no link) that his knees felt like they should after playing 10 years, now the guy has nagging injuries, just a hunch

*Rex Grossman - probably better last week, as his value will most likely continue to level out

SELL WHILE THEY HAVE VALUE:

*Jamal Leiws - I think his days of domination are over.

*Julius Jones - Wait after this week vs. Tenn, but I just dont see this guy ever hitting elite status

*TO - more headaches than it is worth

Let me know what you think and certainly add your own.

 
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You mentioned some of the same times covered in my weekly dynasty buy low sell high article coming out today.

I would hesitate to sell Bell right now. He's still fresh and his bye is this week. He's liable to bust off some HUGE games against oakland and cleveland in weeks 6 and 7. There will also likely be more RB injuries to exploit by then. You run the risk of Bell getting hurt too, but if he can post a 150 total yard, multi TD game, someone will see him as the piece that will get them a championship. He could easily be a top 10 (or higher) RB over the next few weeks, making people forget how he wears down late in the year, and how Denver RBs don't hold value in a dynasty format.

 
*Reggie Wayne - i read an article on him (sorry no link) that his knees felt like they should after playing 10 years...
:( I'd like to hear more about this.
Found it.Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

Written by: John Oehser ¦ 8/16/2006

Source:

Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

John Oehser

8/16/2006

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – His goal is the same as it is every year around this time.

Reggie Wayne wants to get better. Every season.

To Wayne, a wide receiver for the Colts, that may mean getting one more reception, one more yard, or one more touchdown than the season before.

Whatever, Wayne figures, better is better.

This season, Wayne has a different motto. Better is definitely better, he said.

And this year, lighter may be better, too.

“I haven’t been this light since I was a sophomore in college,” Wayne said this week at Colts 2006 Training Camp, which continued on Wednesday with a pair of practices at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.

Specifically, that means Wayne is around 191 pounds.

He hasn’t been too far off that in the past, he said, and he said he has wavered in five NFL seasons between about 194 and 198 or so.

“I go up and down,” he said, smiling. “I’m like an elevator.”

Maybe that’s true of Wayne’s weight, but it is certainly not true of his performance, which for the last half-decade has been nothing if not consistent. Each season, Wayne – the Colts’ first-round selection in the 2001 NFL Draft from the University of Miami – has set a goal of improving. And each season, he has done it.

As a rookie in 2001, Wayne had 27 receptions, and he increased that total to 49 and 68 in his second and third seasons, respectively. During 2004, he set career-highs with 77 receptions for 1,120 yards and 12 touchdowns and last season, he led the Colts in receiving for the first time with 83 receptions for 1,055 yards and five touchdowns.

During this year’s training camp, Wayne has been noticeably productive and consistent in practice. On Monday of this week, he caught three consecutive touchdown passes in a red-zone drills, and he has gotten open downfield consistently for long passes from quarterback Peyton Manning.

The practice performances are no accident, Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy.

Rather, they’re part of a process, a process that has turned Wayne from a first-round selection to one of the NFL’s most consistent receivers.

But can Wayne really be improving on his last two seasons?

“He is, and he’s developing more and more rapport with Peyton,”

Dungy said. “He understands our offense better, and how to get open and what’s going on on defense.

“He is growing and every year he just seems to get better and better.”

Which isn’t all that surprising, Dungy said.

“Our passing attack is like that,” Dungy said. “Everybody who has come here in the passing game – tight ends and receivers – they continue to refine and get better. (Colts offensive coordinator) Tom (Moore) does a great job of coming up with little things to complement what we do to keep everybody fresh. We’re basically doing the same things, but adding to it.”

For Wayne, this camp has been about adding to his game while subtracting from his body – and thereby subtracting wear and tear from his legs. He said this week he is anticipating the end of training camp, just like most veterans, but he said he doesn’t mind preseason games too much.

“There are pros and cons,” Wayne said. “It’s better than going out there and playing against (Colts cornerback) Jason David.”

And overall, he said be believes he has had one of his better camps. He was sluggish early, he said, because of the stifling heat in Terre Haute, but since then, he said he has “felt good.”

“I feel like my training camp has been going great,” Wayne said. “I don’t think anybody was ready the first day, it was so hot. But I feel good, man. I’m ready to go out and get together, get going.”

“I feel like I’m on schedule. I feel like we’re making progress as a team. Now, we’ve just got to go out there and show it.”

And what Wayne said he also has to do is figure out a way to stay where he weighed as he entered camp. With his locker next to noted junk-food fan Marvin Harrison, he said that’s not always easy, and it’s not easy to steer clear of his favorite fast food.

“Hopefully, I can stay away from Chik-Fil-A and all those places,” he said with a laugh.

The benefits, he said, should make the task easier.

“This is my sixth year,” he said. “My knees feel like I’ve been playing 16 years. I feel like the better my knees feel, the faster I’ll be and the better off I’ll be trying to top last season. That’s been my motto here every year, every year just do better than I did the year before.

“But I do feel like that’s been a difference going through training camp.”

http://www.colts.com

 
*Lav Coles - great start, Pennington scares me (injury), Coles has trouble staying healthy, 29 in Dec
Coles has missed 3 games in six years...and 29 isn't old for a WR. IMHO, you are witnessing Coles finally getting back on track after the Spurrier debacle and Pennington injury. He still has a lot tread left, and is a fine receiver. I can understand your concern about Pennington's shoulder, but Coles is still $$$. Even through all of the turmoil, Laveranues has averaged 83 receptions over the last four years. While his performance has been stronger than usual recently, I don't think his perceived value is really higher than it should be. People know what they're getting.While I don't mind your buy low list, I think almost all of your sell high list is off in dynasty terms.
 
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*Reggie Wayne - i read an article on him (sorry no link) that his knees felt like they should after playing 10 years...
:( I'd like to hear more about this.
Found it.Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

Written by: John Oehser ¦ 8/16/2006

Source:

Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

John Oehser

8/16/2006

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – His goal is the same as it is every year around this time.

Reggie Wayne wants to get better. Every season.

To Wayne, a wide receiver for the Colts, that may mean getting one more reception, one more yard, or one more touchdown than the season before.

Whatever, Wayne figures, better is better.

This season, Wayne has a different motto. Better is definitely better, he said.

And this year, lighter may be better, too.

“I haven’t been this light since I was a sophomore in college,” Wayne said this week at Colts 2006 Training Camp, which continued on Wednesday with a pair of practices at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.

Specifically, that means Wayne is around 191 pounds.

He hasn’t been too far off that in the past, he said, and he said he has wavered in five NFL seasons between about 194 and 198 or so.

“I go up and down,” he said, smiling. “I’m like an elevator.”

Maybe that’s true of Wayne’s weight, but it is certainly not true of his performance, which for the last half-decade has been nothing if not consistent. Each season, Wayne – the Colts’ first-round selection in the 2001 NFL Draft from the University of Miami – has set a goal of improving. And each season, he has done it.

As a rookie in 2001, Wayne had 27 receptions, and he increased that total to 49 and 68 in his second and third seasons, respectively. During 2004, he set career-highs with 77 receptions for 1,120 yards and 12 touchdowns and last season, he led the Colts in receiving for the first time with 83 receptions for 1,055 yards and five touchdowns.

During this year’s training camp, Wayne has been noticeably productive and consistent in practice. On Monday of this week, he caught three consecutive touchdown passes in a red-zone drills, and he has gotten open downfield consistently for long passes from quarterback Peyton Manning.

The practice performances are no accident, Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy.

Rather, they’re part of a process, a process that has turned Wayne from a first-round selection to one of the NFL’s most consistent receivers.

But can Wayne really be improving on his last two seasons?

“He is, and he’s developing more and more rapport with Peyton,”

Dungy said. “He understands our offense better, and how to get open and what’s going on on defense.

“He is growing and every year he just seems to get better and better.”

Which isn’t all that surprising, Dungy said.

“Our passing attack is like that,” Dungy said. “Everybody who has come here in the passing game – tight ends and receivers – they continue to refine and get better. (Colts offensive coordinator) Tom (Moore) does a great job of coming up with little things to complement what we do to keep everybody fresh. We’re basically doing the same things, but adding to it.”

For Wayne, this camp has been about adding to his game while subtracting from his body – and thereby subtracting wear and tear from his legs. He said this week he is anticipating the end of training camp, just like most veterans, but he said he doesn’t mind preseason games too much.

“There are pros and cons,” Wayne said. “It’s better than going out there and playing against (Colts cornerback) Jason David.”

And overall, he said be believes he has had one of his better camps. He was sluggish early, he said, because of the stifling heat in Terre Haute, but since then, he said he has “felt good.”

“I feel like my training camp has been going great,” Wayne said. “I don’t think anybody was ready the first day, it was so hot. But I feel good, man. I’m ready to go out and get together, get going.”

“I feel like I’m on schedule. I feel like we’re making progress as a team. Now, we’ve just got to go out there and show it.”

And what Wayne said he also has to do is figure out a way to stay where he weighed as he entered camp. With his locker next to noted junk-food fan Marvin Harrison, he said that’s not always easy, and it’s not easy to steer clear of his favorite fast food.

“Hopefully, I can stay away from Chik-Fil-A and all those places,” he said with a laugh.

The benefits, he said, should make the task easier.

“This is my sixth year,” he said. “My knees feel like I’ve been playing 16 years. I feel like the better my knees feel, the faster I’ll be and the better off I’ll be trying to top last season. That’s been my motto here every year, every year just do better than I did the year before.

“But I do feel like that’s been a difference going through training camp.”

http://www.colts.com
I think you're taking too much negative out of a pretty positive article. He's fine.
 
*Lav Coles - great start, Pennington scares me (injury), Coles has trouble staying healthy, 29 in Dec
Coles has missed 3 games in six years...and 29 isn't old for a WR. IMHO, you are witnessing Coles finally getting back on track after the Spurrier debacle and Pennington injury. He still has a lot tread left, and is a fine receiver. I can understand your concern about Pennington's shoulder, but Coles is still $$$. Even through all of the turmoil, Laveranues has averaged 83 receptions over the last four years. While his performance has been stronger than usual recently, I don't think his perceived value is really higher than it should be. People know what they're getting.While I don't mind your buy low list, I think almost all of your sell high list is off in dynasty terms.
Appreciate the feedback. Sell highs are tricky, I am not saying to trade Coles for Mike Furrey. But, if you can find a panicking Chad Johnson owner, I would certainly give that a try.
 
You mentioned some of the same times covered in my weekly dynasty buy low sell high article coming out today.I would hesitate to sell Bell right now. He's still fresh and his bye is this week. He's liable to bust off some HUGE games against oakland and cleveland in weeks 6 and 7. There will also likely be more RB injuries to exploit by then. You run the risk of Bell getting hurt too, but if he can post a 150 total yard, multi TD game, someone will see him as the piece that will get them a championship. He could easily be a top 10 (or higher) RB over the next few weeks, making people forget how he wears down late in the year, and how Denver RBs don't hold value in a dynasty format.
Last week my Buy low's were Kevin Jones, Jake Plummer and Javon Walker. I got walker in 2 of my 3 leagues and Kevin Jones in one (and then just sold him yesterday), although I still like him to do well. The others I had been trying to get that started two weeks ago were Matt Hasselbeck or Delhomme. Hass went crazy last week and Delhomme I would expect to see do better as Smith gets back into the fold.Other buy Lows for me are Thomas Jones, Tony G (if you can get him cheap as KC is not a good situation), Randy Moss and Aaron Brooks. I am looking at later this year the latter two really pay off. People are forgetting Moss but the Raiders can't continue this ugly all year. I know Brooks is not sexy but before last year he was a top 8 QB for 4 years in a row.I would sell Favre, Pennington, Westbrook (if you can get top dollar) as well as Gore (I just don't see him staying healthy - dump after he is declared healhy) and finally trade Betts to the Portis owner now.
 
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Im not buyig into that quote at all.

Barry Sanders was once asked about how "healthy" he felt one year.

What percentage or something like that.

He said, after my 1st game in the NFL 10 years ago I have never been 100% healthy.

Something of that sort.

 
*Reggie Wayne - i read an article on him (sorry no link) that his knees felt like they should after playing 10 years...
:( I'd like to hear more about this.
Found it.Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

Written by: John Oehser ¦ 8/16/2006

Source:

Colts WR Wayne developing more rapport with QB Manning

John Oehser

8/16/2006

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – His goal is the same as it is every year around this time.

Reggie Wayne wants to get better. Every season.

To Wayne, a wide receiver for the Colts, that may mean getting one more reception, one more yard, or one more touchdown than the season before.

Whatever, Wayne figures, better is better.

This season, Wayne has a different motto. Better is definitely better, he said.

And this year, lighter may be better, too.

“I haven’t been this light since I was a sophomore in college,” Wayne said this week at Colts 2006 Training Camp, which continued on Wednesday with a pair of practices at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.

Specifically, that means Wayne is around 191 pounds.

He hasn’t been too far off that in the past, he said, and he said he has wavered in five NFL seasons between about 194 and 198 or so.

“I go up and down,” he said, smiling. “I’m like an elevator.”

Maybe that’s true of Wayne’s weight, but it is certainly not true of his performance, which for the last half-decade has been nothing if not consistent. Each season, Wayne – the Colts’ first-round selection in the 2001 NFL Draft from the University of Miami – has set a goal of improving. And each season, he has done it.

As a rookie in 2001, Wayne had 27 receptions, and he increased that total to 49 and 68 in his second and third seasons, respectively. During 2004, he set career-highs with 77 receptions for 1,120 yards and 12 touchdowns and last season, he led the Colts in receiving for the first time with 83 receptions for 1,055 yards and five touchdowns.

During this year’s training camp, Wayne has been noticeably productive and consistent in practice. On Monday of this week, he caught three consecutive touchdown passes in a red-zone drills, and he has gotten open downfield consistently for long passes from quarterback Peyton Manning.

The practice performances are no accident, Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy.

Rather, they’re part of a process, a process that has turned Wayne from a first-round selection to one of the NFL’s most consistent receivers.

But can Wayne really be improving on his last two seasons?

“He is, and he’s developing more and more rapport with Peyton,”

Dungy said. “He understands our offense better, and how to get open and what’s going on on defense.

“He is growing and every year he just seems to get better and better.”

Which isn’t all that surprising, Dungy said.

“Our passing attack is like that,” Dungy said. “Everybody who has come here in the passing game – tight ends and receivers – they continue to refine and get better. (Colts offensive coordinator) Tom (Moore) does a great job of coming up with little things to complement what we do to keep everybody fresh. We’re basically doing the same things, but adding to it.”

For Wayne, this camp has been about adding to his game while subtracting from his body – and thereby subtracting wear and tear from his legs. He said this week he is anticipating the end of training camp, just like most veterans, but he said he doesn’t mind preseason games too much.

“There are pros and cons,” Wayne said. “It’s better than going out there and playing against (Colts cornerback) Jason David.”

And overall, he said be believes he has had one of his better camps. He was sluggish early, he said, because of the stifling heat in Terre Haute, but since then, he said he has “felt good.”

“I feel like my training camp has been going great,” Wayne said. “I don’t think anybody was ready the first day, it was so hot. But I feel good, man. I’m ready to go out and get together, get going.”

“I feel like I’m on schedule. I feel like we’re making progress as a team. Now, we’ve just got to go out there and show it.”

And what Wayne said he also has to do is figure out a way to stay where he weighed as he entered camp. With his locker next to noted junk-food fan Marvin Harrison, he said that’s not always easy, and it’s not easy to steer clear of his favorite fast food.

“Hopefully, I can stay away from Chik-Fil-A and all those places,” he said with a laugh.

The benefits, he said, should make the task easier.

“This is my sixth year,” he said. “My knees feel like I’ve been playing 16 years. I feel like the better my knees feel, the faster I’ll be and the better off I’ll be trying to top last season. That’s been my motto here every year, every year just do better than I did the year before.

“But I do feel like that’s been a difference going through training camp.”

http://www.colts.com
I think you're taking too much negative out of a pretty positive article. He's fine.
Absolutely. I am not trying to cause a widespread panic about his knees. I just think that was a strange statement to make. I cant see Reggie ever becoming a WR1, so if you can upgrade I would suggest that. If not, no biggie, he has Peyton throwing him the ball and will have his good days.
 
Buy Low:

Cedric Benson - He has caused his owners a lot of headache and I'm guessing some of them may actually give you something to take him off their hands. With TJ looking like crap he should at least see a fair opportunity at some point.

Lav Coles - He seems to be on everyones sell high list... Personally I see the connection that I originally saw between Pennington and Coles and his owners should see nothing but consistency and a tio 10 WR from it. I would give up inconsistent talent like Lee Evans and other goodies for him.

Sell High:

Fred Taylor - We all know about his injury history and add on that this coaching staff has never backed him fully. So now we see Maurice Drew stepping up. It's time to bail especially if you don't feel like your going to be in contention this year.

 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy

 
Buy Low:Cedric Benson - He has caused his owners a lot of headache and I'm guessing some of them may actually give you something to take him off their hands. With TJ looking like crap he should at least see a fair opportunity at some point.
As a Benson owner in three leagues, I believe that he is on everyone's buy low list as I have gotten several bargain offers for him. Confirms to me that barring a quality offer I need to hold onto him.
 
I like the following buy lows:Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young stillRoddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason
1) Worried about the Romo watch? Or the fact that Bledsoe is really a below average NFL QB at this point?2) I just can't see any Atlanta WR being startable while Vick is there. Not to mention that he hasn't seemed to make the strides that the other first rounders from last year have (except for Mike Williams, who is a dead man walking in fantasy terms right now)
 
Buy Low:Cedric Benson - He has caused his owners a lot of headache and I'm guessing some of them may actually give you something to take him off their hands. With TJ looking like crap he should at least see a fair opportunity at some point.
As a Benson owner in three leagues, I believe that he is on everyone's buy low list as I have gotten several bargain offers for him. Confirms to me that barring a quality offer I need to hold onto him.
Agreed. I own TJ and Benson in one league and have been active in trying to trade TJ as I think Benson has more relative value and future.
 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy
You consider 34 years old (14 year vet) relatively young??
 
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I like the following buy lows:Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young stillRoddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason
1) Worried about the Romo watch? Or the fact that Bledsoe is really a below average NFL QB at this point?2) I just can't see any Atlanta WR being startable while Vick is there. Not to mention that he hasn't seemed to make the strides that the other first rounders from last year have (except for Mike Williams, who is a dead man walking in fantasy terms right now)
I do not disagree much with your views. I just know many undervalue Bledsoe. He could be a top 8-10 QB this year. I am a Romo dynasty owner and do not consider Romo a threat. I can think you could do much worse at QB for the price. I am not a fan of spending a ton for QBs, and you could get Bledsoe pretty cheap because of these fears.On White, he is dirt cheap right now. His value was pretty high before the Lelie trade. But, my thinking is that for the price you can afford to hold and wait. Yes, Vick squashes all value for any receiver lot named Alge. But, I have worse WRs on my dynasty rosters that are worth more.
 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy
You consider 34 years old (14 year vet) relatively young??
for his price, yes. Most think Bledsoe is on his last leg. I see two more years from Bledsoe. The age, and all other negatives (which are all right), are in the perspective of his value. He is cheap right now. He has good weapons. I would be happy with Bledsoe as my starting fantasy (dynasty) QB for as long as it lasts. In fact, I prefer the aging veterans to the young prospects. Who really knows how good they will be (for fantasy). I choose to buy the Bledsoes, the Favres, the McNairs, etc cheap to spending what it would take to get a Cutler, Leinart, or Young ... even Ben or Rivers. This route allows me to spend less on QB and more on RB/WR and get similar (or greater many times) production. Maybe it is a matter of personal preference. If I choose to go after a QB prospect, it is usually the guys like Rodgers, TJackson, or Clemens. This is a function of the price/potential equation for me.This is a great thread and discussion. Thanks for starting it KoJ.

 
I would also like to add that I think the cost of adding BOTH Bledsoe and Romo (for those that want the insurance) is much cheaper the cost for a decent-to-average fantasy qb

 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy
You consider 34 years old (14 year vet) relatively young??
for his price, yes. Most think Bledsoe is on his last leg. I see two more years from Bledsoe. The age, and all other negatives (which are all right), are in the perspective of his value. He is cheap right now. He has good weapons. I would be happy with Bledsoe as my starting fantasy (dynasty) QB for as long as it lasts. In fact, I prefer the aging veterans to the young prospects. Who really knows how good they will be (for fantasy). I choose to buy the Bledsoes, the Favres, the McNairs, etc cheap to spending what it would take to get a Cutler, Leinart, or Young ... even Ben or Rivers. This route allows me to spend less on QB and more on RB/WR and get similar (or greater many times) production. Maybe it is a matter of personal preference. If I choose to go after a QB prospect, it is usually the guys like Rodgers, TJackson, or Clemens. This is a function of the price/potential equation for me.This is a great thread and discussion. Thanks for starting it KoJ.
Your welcome Wannabee, glad you joined the discussion. I have always been one to overemphasize youth in dynasty (I admit it, as you can tell by my roster). But I do like your theory about the QBs. I may try to put something together to acquire one of the forever aging (Favre, Bledsoe). At the right price I think this is a good strategy.
 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy
You consider 34 years old (14 year vet) relatively young??
for his price, yes. Most think Bledsoe is on his last leg. I see two more years from Bledsoe. The age, and all other negatives (which are all right), are in the perspective of his value. He is cheap right now. He has good weapons. I would be happy with Bledsoe as my starting fantasy (dynasty) QB for as long as it lasts. In fact, I prefer the aging veterans to the young prospects. Who really knows how good they will be (for fantasy). I choose to buy the Bledsoes, the Favres, the McNairs, etc cheap to spending what it would take to get a Cutler, Leinart, or Young ... even Ben or Rivers. This route allows me to spend less on QB and more on RB/WR and get similar (or greater many times) production. Maybe it is a matter of personal preference. If I choose to go after a QB prospect, it is usually the guys like Rodgers, TJackson, or Clemens. This is a function of the price/potential equation for me.This is a great thread and discussion. Thanks for starting it KoJ.
I don't disagree with your points on his value, but you just referred to your buy low candidate as an aging veteran, when your initial post he was relatively young.
 
Chris Perry - Got to believe he will put up very good flex position numbers in PPR if he comes back healthy after week 6. I even saw him get picked up in a redraft league this morning.

Ryan Moats - I can't believe how he has just disappeared from the radar. Based on what he did at the end of last season, with Westbrrok and Buckhalter in front of him, that he can provide a quality start, or two or three before the season is over.

 
I like the following buy lows:

Big Ben - he will get his act together

Frye - Producing and is still young

Leftwich - his WR/TE are so young

Bledsoe - they will throw the ball this year and Bledsoe is relatively young still

Tarvaris Jackson - I like the talent and Johnson is getting older

Morency - like the talent

Gado - not a fan of Dayne

Betts - a UFA at end of year and has looked pretty good

MBarber - maybe the Barber owner will have thought too much on the lack of action/production and not enough on Jones' injury history

Norwood - he could be special at a cheap (relatively) price & dunn will be 32 on January 5

Benson - he will get a chance sooner or later

Glenn - Dallas will throw the ball

Santana - Portis back will help the offense a ton

Roddy White - the addition of Lelie made White cheaper for no reason

Mark Clayton - great talent

Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires

VJackson - Keenan is 36 and the offense will need a go to guy
You consider 34 years old (14 year vet) relatively young??
for his price, yes. Most think Bledsoe is on his last leg. I see two more years from Bledsoe. The age, and all other negatives (which are all right), are in the perspective of his value. He is cheap right now. He has good weapons. I would be happy with Bledsoe as my starting fantasy (dynasty) QB for as long as it lasts. In fact, I prefer the aging veterans to the young prospects. Who really knows how good they will be (for fantasy). I choose to buy the Bledsoes, the Favres, the McNairs, etc cheap to spending what it would take to get a Cutler, Leinart, or Young ... even Ben or Rivers. This route allows me to spend less on QB and more on RB/WR and get similar (or greater many times) production. Maybe it is a matter of personal preference. If I choose to go after a QB prospect, it is usually the guys like Rodgers, TJackson, or Clemens. This is a function of the price/potential equation for me.This is a great thread and discussion. Thanks for starting it KoJ.
I don't disagree with your points on his value, but you just referred to your buy low candidate as an aging veteran, when your initial post he was relatively young.
he is relative young compared to people (in my eyes) thinking he is on his last leg. i guess it is a relative statement. sorry for the confusion.
 
Another buy low is Drew Bennett... he has posted 3 solid weeks and it might not change with that team constantly playing catch up.

 
How about Si. Moss and C. Jackson. They are boths suffering from injuries and should be on the Buy low scale currently. Especially with quick trigger owners that expected a bigger impact this year or that owner that has an injury currently along with two gimpy rookies.

 
I like the following buy lows:Mike Clayton - talent is there and might take a year or so. Could be something when Galloway retires
I like this call. Clayton has done virtually nothing since his rookie year, but clearly last year was the effects of injury, while Simms developed great chemistry with Galloway, and the whole offense has been abysmal this year. Obviously, with the rookie Gradowski in there, you have to temper expectations for the passing game, but MC is more of a possession guy that the rook could lock into. And beyond this year, who knows how long Galloway will stick around, much less be effective.
 
Absolutely. I am not trying to cause a widespread panic about his knees. I just think that was a strange statement to make. I cant see Reggie ever becoming a WR1, so if you can upgrade I would suggest that. If not, no biggie, he has Peyton throwing him the ball and will have his good days.
I don't see how you can overlook a statement by a WR that he wants to keep his weight down because his knees aren't feeling good. Let's not forget that he plays on Astroturf either.
 
Buy Low

Marcedes Lewis - Invisible man so far, but is still an excellent bet to eventually become a quality FF starter.

Chris Perry - Talented enough to start in the NFL. Available at a reasonable cost.

Ryan Moats - Quality player who could thrive in the right situation. Not real expensive.

LenDale White - Might have nice value in a couple years.

Derek Hagan - Another invisible rookie with talent. The unheralded first day WRs are all available for dirt cheap (Travis Wilson, Willie Reid, Hagan). Wouldn't be surprised to see one of them emerge in the next few years.

Chad Jackson - How long until he's the #1 guy in NE? Might be sooner than we thought.

Aaron Rodgers - Untested first round pick available for next to nothing. Those are almost always good investments.

Sell High

Frank Gore - Probably not as talented as stats would indicated. More importantly, has an atrocious injury history. The new Dom Davis?

Mike Bell - Sell him if you can get anything remotely valuable. He'll be in the Olandis Gary abyss soon.

 
Go get Losman. I know...I know...but...

The guy can play. I am still not sure why the Bills benched him last year in what was obviously a lost season, as it stunted his development and maturation as a QB. You think Jauron would like Losman to have had that playing experience? Anyway, the light is starting to come on for the kid and he has all of the tools to be successful on Sundays. I do not like the coaching staff nor do I care for the weather he faces at home in late October through December but he is most likely dirt cheap and a nice back-up to carry in a deep dynasty league.

Go get Frye. I know...I know...but...

That team is coming around. Yes, they are winless but they are not anywhere near as inept as previous seasons. Winslow and Edwards are every bit as good as their college resume would indicate. The offense espeically the passing game is growing. Frye's interceptions have been the fault of the WR not poor throws. He has had plenty of catchable balls dropped. Of course, he has looked like a first year starter parts of each game but he is solid. I really thought the team defense would be much better this year and the offense would still be a season or two away but it is vice versa. Plus, Frye has a little veteran savvy for a kid that young. He's sharp inside the 10. As odd as this sounds, the Browns remind me of the Bengals the season immediately prior to and including Palmer's rookie year on the offensive side of the football. The pieces are in place at WR, QB and TE for that offense ot begin to take off. They, do, though lack a running game but I think most of that has to do with injuries to the OL versus talent available on the depth chart.

Frye's price tag is probably slightly inflated but worth it.

The other would be Alex Smith. That small hands nonsense was blown WAY out of proportion and N. Turner is doing wonders with that kid. Smith is exceptionally smart and a solid athlete. Given the numbers he has thrown up this year, you probably cannot get him on the cheap any longer.

 
RBs I like that might get a starting job in 2007

Turner- would think he would sell high

M. Smith- would think he would sell low

 
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You mentioned some of the same times covered in my weekly dynasty buy low sell high article coming out today.I would hesitate to sell Bell right now. He's still fresh and his bye is this week. He's liable to bust off some HUGE games against oakland and cleveland in weeks 6 and 7. There will also likely be more RB injuries to exploit by then. You run the risk of Bell getting hurt too, but if he can post a 150 total yard, multi TD game, someone will see him as the piece that will get them a championship. He could easily be a top 10 (or higher) RB over the next few weeks, making people forget how he wears down late in the year, and how Denver RBs don't hold value in a dynasty format.
Bloom... you really see T Bell lasting as the starter in Denver? I've been under the thought that he'll get them to the playoffs this season & Shanny will turn AND FINALLY draft or sign a legit 3-down back!
 
Mike Williams was just cut in my league (prior to Bradford news). I'm taking a flier on him as a buy low candidate because when the price is a free agent move that's pretty cheap.

KOJ, thanks for posting this thread. All dynasty threads are useful to me and you know your stuff on the youngsters.

 
Great discussion. Here are a couple that have not been mentioned:

At quarterback, does Matt Cassel get a shot sometime soon? I have seen the kid play three or four preseason games and look incredible. People in New England speak very highly of him and there is growing talk of Brady not being happy with the Patriots...

Also at quarterback is Drew Brees. Sean Payton is making one heck of an offense in New Orleans.

At running back, let me throw T.J. Duckett into the mix. The guy has gotten the job done when called upon. Unfortunately, his phone does not ring much. With being inactive last week, you can probably get him very cheap. He will be a free agent at the end of the year and will turn 26 in February. His career average is 3.9 yards per carry, which is pretty good considering all of the one-yard falls into the end zone. Did I mention his 31 career touchdowns? He is worth a gamble to see if he can "Lamont Jordan" his way to a team as a starter next year. Teams such as Jacksonville, Houston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Green Bay, New Jork Jets or Chicago could use him.

At wide receiver is a guy who I consider undervalued, Roy Williams. I believe he has the ability and offensive system to be a top-five wide receiver. Although he had a strong game last week and should do good Sunday, he is still considered a 15-25th overall ranked wide receiver by most people. In looking at undervalued young wide receivers, I believe Roy is number one and Chris Chambers is number two.

Also at receiver is Marques Colston. I knew a little bit about the kid before the draft and did not pay attention too much in preseason. I have seen the Saints play two games this year and he has been very impressive. He is big and has decent speed. The great thing is that he catches everything with his hands. The Saints offense is clicking right now and Colston seems to be Brees' dump off guy. That role made Antonio Gates a household name while Brees was in San Diego.

My sleeper tight end would be Tony Scheffler. The kid is working with Jay Cutler on a daily basis and will be a very good point-producer in about three years.

 
Quick note guys.When starting a Dynasty Thread, it is strongly recommended to use a crown logo to highlight the thread.I've already tweaked this one.Thanks.P.S. The more "crown threads" in the SP we see, the more dynasty coverage we'll do around here.
Thanks for the tip Jeff. I always wondered what that crown meant.
 
Mike Williams was just cut in my league (prior to Bradford news). I'm taking a flier on him as a buy low candidate because when the price is a free agent move that's pretty cheap.KOJ, thanks for posting this thread. All dynasty threads are useful to me and you know your stuff on the youngsters.
Thanks for your input.It doesnt get any cheaper than free agent :) . It is hard to say what is going on with Mike Williams. Obviously a lot of behind the scenes stuff is negatively affecting him. With the wide receiver crew in Detroit, there is no better opportunity for one to break into the starting lineup. If BMW can turn his full attention to football, I imagine he will receive an opportunity. If not...well, see Charles Rogers.I don't think I know my stuff, but I do pay particular attention to the younger players. And of course a lot of what I know comes from this site (other FBGers, Bloom, staff content).
 
Great discussion. Here are a couple that have not been mentioned:

At quarterback, does Matt Cassel get a shot sometime soon? I have seen the kid play three or four preseason games and look incredible. People in New England speak very highly of him and there is growing talk of Brady not being happy with the Patriots...

Also at quarterback is Drew Brees. Sean Payton is making one heck of an offense in New Orleans.

At running back, let me throw T.J. Duckett into the mix. The guy has gotten the job done when called upon. Unfortunately, his phone does not ring much. With being inactive last week, you can probably get him very cheap. He will be a free agent at the end of the year and will turn 26 in February. His career average is 3.9 yards per carry, which is pretty good considering all of the one-yard falls into the end zone. Did I mention his 31 career touchdowns? He is worth a gamble to see if he can "Lamont Jordan" his way to a team as a starter next year. Teams such as Jacksonville, Houston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Green Bay, New Jork Jets or Chicago could use him.

At wide receiver is a guy who I consider undervalued, Roy Williams. I believe he has the ability and offensive system to be a top-five wide receiver. Although he had a strong game last week and should do good Sunday, he is still considered a 15-25th overall ranked wide receiver by most people. In looking at undervalued young wide receivers, I believe Roy is number one and Chris Chambers is number two.

Also at receiver is Marques Colston. I knew a little bit about the kid before the draft and did not pay attention too much in preseason. I have seen the Saints play two games this year and he has been very impressive. He is big and has decent speed. The great thing is that he catches everything with his hands. The Saints offense is clicking right now and Colston seems to be Brees' dump off guy. That role made Antonio Gates a household name while Brees was in San Diego.

My sleeper tight end would be Tony Scheffler. The kid is working with Jay Cutler on a daily basis and will be a very good point-producer in about three years.
I stopped reading here. Did you go on to mention Jim Sorgi?
 
A lot of good buy lows (in general) are rookies and 2nd year players who are struggling or hurt, who you like, and who have impatient owners. A good example was getting Alex Smith in the offseason from owners who declared him a bust after his ROOKIE season. Same with older players who are struggling, such as Bledsoe and Rod Smith. Some owners are very impatient with some players.

 
A lot of good buy lows (in general) are rookies and 2nd year players who are struggling or hurt, who you like, and who have impatient owners. A good example was getting Alex Smith in the offseason from owners who declared him a bust after his ROOKIE season. Same with older players who are struggling, such as Bledsoe and Rod Smith. Some owners are very impatient with some players.
Absolutely. This is exactly what I did. He had no value in the offseason to the preceding owner. Also liked Braylon's value in the offseason, and was able to land him for a decent price.
 
BUY LOW:*Chad Johnson - probably the last week to do it*Santana Moss - the coaching staff will realize that this guy gives them a good chance every time he gets a touch*Mark Clayton - emerged a little last week, may have to wait another year before you get his true potential (by then the price will be too high)*Samkon Gado - may not be the most talented, but gets the job done, Ron Dayne?*Dom Davis - if he comes for nothing why not?*Matt Jones - relatively quiet after all the hype, still very talented*Kevin Jones - guy is running hard and catching the ball well (but the big numbers are missing), as this offense progresses so will heSELL HIGH:*Lav Coles - great start, Pennington scares me (injury), Coles has trouble staying healthy, 29 in Dec*Chris Henry - like the talent, but Housh and Chad have to get theirs, also dont like headcases (rarely do they change)*Tatum Bell - any time you can get great value for a Denver RB you have done well*Reggie Wayne - i read an article on him (sorry no link) that his knees felt like they should after playing 10 years, now the guy has nagging injuries, just a hunch*Rex Grossman - probably better last week, as his value will most likely continue to level outSELL WHILE THEY HAVE VALUE:*Jamal Leiws - I think his days of domination are over.*Julius Jones - Wait after this week vs. Tenn, but I just dont see this guy ever hitting elite status*TO - more headaches than it is worthLet me know what you think and certainly add your own.
*Jamal Lewis - I think his days of domination are over. ( i dont agree here he is only 27 and did well so far this season , he is finally healthy . The hip pointer is now gone so i see a very good season ahead )Tiki Barber would fall in the category to sell while they still have value .*Santana Moss - the coaching staff will realize that this guy gives them a good chance every time he gets a touchI agree , i just traded Randy for Santana and i am quite happy with it .
 
Great discussion. Here are a couple that have not been mentioned:

At quarterback, does Matt Cassel get a shot sometime soon? I have seen the kid play three or four preseason games and look incredible. People in New England speak very highly of him and there is growing talk of Brady not being happy with the Patriots...

Also at quarterback is Drew Brees. Sean Payton is making one heck of an offense in New Orleans.

At running back, let me throw T.J. Duckett into the mix. The guy has gotten the job done when called upon. Unfortunately, his phone does not ring much. With being inactive last week, you can probably get him very cheap. He will be a free agent at the end of the year and will turn 26 in February. His career average is 3.9 yards per carry, which is pretty good considering all of the one-yard falls into the end zone. Did I mention his 31 career touchdowns? He is worth a gamble to see if he can "Lamont Jordan" his way to a team as a starter next year. Teams such as Jacksonville, Houston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Green Bay, New Jork Jets or Chicago could use him.

At wide receiver is a guy who I consider undervalued, Roy Williams. I believe he has the ability and offensive system to be a top-five wide receiver. Although he had a strong game last week and should do good Sunday, he is still considered a 15-25th overall ranked wide receiver by most people. In looking at undervalued young wide receivers, I believe Roy is number one and Chris Chambers is number two.

Also at receiver is Marques Colston. I knew a little bit about the kid before the draft and did not pay attention too much in preseason. I have seen the Saints play two games this year and he has been very impressive. He is big and has decent speed. The great thing is that he catches everything with his hands. The Saints offense is clicking right now and Colston seems to be Brees' dump off guy. That role made Antonio Gates a household name while Brees was in San Diego.

My sleeper tight end would be Tony Scheffler. The kid is working with Jay Cutler on a daily basis and will be a very good point-producer in about three years.
I stopped reading here. Did you go on to mention Jim Sorgi?
Did I mean Cassel was going to replace Brady? No. Do I think Cassel that much different than Matt Schaub? Not really. Schaub has a couple of real games under his belt, that is the only difference. However, everyone thinks that Schaub is great and will be a starting quarterback someday. I think the same thing could happen with Cassel especially with New England's history of not keeping high-priced players. Did anyone ever think they would let McGinnest or Law go? Belichek is arrogant enough that he probably thinks he can win without Brady. I just think Cassel gets a shot someday somewhere and from what I have seen he might be pretty good.
 
You mentioned some of the same times covered in my weekly dynasty buy low sell high article coming out today.I would hesitate to sell Bell right now. He's still fresh and his bye is this week. He's liable to bust off some HUGE games against oakland and cleveland in weeks 6 and 7. There will also likely be more RB injuries to exploit by then. You run the risk of Bell getting hurt too, but if he can post a 150 total yard, multi TD game, someone will see him as the piece that will get them a championship. He could easily be a top 10 (or higher) RB over the next few weeks, making people forget how he wears down late in the year, and how Denver RBs don't hold value in a dynasty format.
Bloom... you really see T Bell lasting as the starter in Denver? I've been under the thought that he'll get them to the playoffs this season & Shanny will turn AND FINALLY draft or sign a legit 3-down back!
You know, we assume that shanny will just switch to another back every year, but Bell is not a free agent until 2009. If he excels this year, he could stick as the starter.
 
Great discussion. Here are a couple that have not been mentioned:

At quarterback, does Matt Cassel get a shot sometime soon? I have seen the kid play three or four preseason games and look incredible. People in New England speak very highly of him and there is growing talk of Brady not being happy with the Patriots...

Also at quarterback is Drew Brees. Sean Payton is making one heck of an offense in New Orleans.

At running back, let me throw T.J. Duckett into the mix. The guy has gotten the job done when called upon. Unfortunately, his phone does not ring much. With being inactive last week, you can probably get him very cheap. He will be a free agent at the end of the year and will turn 26 in February. His career average is 3.9 yards per carry, which is pretty good considering all of the one-yard falls into the end zone. Did I mention his 31 career touchdowns? He is worth a gamble to see if he can "Lamont Jordan" his way to a team as a starter next year. Teams such as Jacksonville, Houston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Green Bay, New Jork Jets or Chicago could use him.

At wide receiver is a guy who I consider undervalued, Roy Williams. I believe he has the ability and offensive system to be a top-five wide receiver. Although he had a strong game last week and should do good Sunday, he is still considered a 15-25th overall ranked wide receiver by most people. In looking at undervalued young wide receivers, I believe Roy is number one and Chris Chambers is number two.

Also at receiver is Marques Colston. I knew a little bit about the kid before the draft and did not pay attention too much in preseason. I have seen the Saints play two games this year and he has been very impressive. He is big and has decent speed. The great thing is that he catches everything with his hands. The Saints offense is clicking right now and Colston seems to be Brees' dump off guy. That role made Antonio Gates a household name while Brees was in San Diego.

My sleeper tight end would be Tony Scheffler. The kid is working with Jay Cutler on a daily basis and will be a very good point-producer in about three years.
I stopped reading here. Did you go on to mention Jim Sorgi?
Did I mean Cassel was going to replace Brady? No. Do I think Cassel that much different than Matt Schaub? Not really. Schaub has a couple of real games under his belt, that is the only difference. However, everyone thinks that Schaub is great and will be a starting quarterback someday. I think the same thing could happen with Cassel especially with New England's history of not keeping high-priced players. Did anyone ever think they would let McGinnest or Law go? Belichek is arrogant enough that he probably thinks he can win without Brady. I just think Cassel gets a shot someday somewhere and from what I have seen he might be pretty good.
If you don't see the difference between Tom Brady and Willie McGuinest and Ty Law, then don't talk about Patriots personal moves because you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Turner (though he won't come cheap from a smart owber)

Musa Smith

Chris Perry

Ciatrick Fason

Marion Barber

 
I love all this buyin' & sellin' talk. But I am curious to see if it is just that: TALK.

How many of the dynasty posters on this thread were able to "walk the walk" and make trades this week? If so, let's see your sell high and buy low deal(s) ! :yes:

 
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I love all this buyin' & sellin' talk. But I am curious to see if it is just that: TALK.How many of the dynasty posters on this thread were able to "walk the walk" and make trades this week? If so, let's see your sell high and buy low deal(s) ! :yes:
With my list, I already have Mark Clayton. I am trying to turn Darrell Jackson into Chad Johnson though. We will see.
 
Jerry Porter may be a decent buy low. I would thik he is really cheap now. He may then be a sell high if he has a good game or is traded.

 
Turner (though he won't come cheap from a smart owber)Musa SmithChris PerryCiatrick FasonMarion Barber
i'm just wondering... why Perry. Fason or Barber? Barber i suppose i could see, as there's still talk of him getting the gig, but Perry and Fason???? come on!! there has to be a point in this thread where we opt not to list every young 2nd & 3rd string RB in the league...
 
Jerry Porter may be a decent buy low. I would thik he is really cheap now. He may then be a sell high if he has a good game or is traded.
Good one Warhog. I tried to get him a week ago (dynasty league). I offered LJ SMith (no TE required league - but the numbers were there) and Pitt D. Owner rejected and did not counter. His other WRs are Boldin, CJ, Wayne, and Williamson. So it is not like he was hurting. But I guess Jerry has not gone on the Goodwill shelf yet.
 

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