Buzz Around David Boston Completely Gone (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

All offseason we've been hearing whispers that Boston is "back"... another nice piece today from the Tampa Tribune:

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"The David Boston I know is a guy who just dominated, period," said Bucs running back Michael Pittman, a former Cardinal teammate. "He was someone who made it look easy. I know what David can do when he's healthy, and right now, he looks healthy."

Boston, 28, likes his chances to stick this time around. He is another year removed from knee surgery and a four-game NFL suspension for steroid use that marred his disastrous stint with the Dolphins.

"He was one of the elite receivers in all of football a few years ago," Gruden said. "I don't even think anyone knows he's around. That's what I tell him every day - that people have forgotten about you."

It's difficult for a 6-foot-2, 230-pound target to disappear, but Boston has played only five games since 2003, when he caught 70 passes for the Chargers despite serving a one-game suspension for behavior Coach Marty Schottenheimer deemed unacceptable.

"David's driven, and he's doing things I've never seen him do," Pittman said. "He's on punt team as a gunner, he's on kickoff return as a receive guy. He was at all the OTA workouts and he's very serious about this. If a guy really wants to come back, he can get the job done. I know one thing … David Boston can make a big difference for this football team."

Yeah. it's Michael Pittman talking, grain of salt, etc, etc, but like Pittman said, we all know what Boston did before - his cost in dynasty leagues is beyond dirt cheap, and there is a spot for the taking in the starting lineup. Gruden said Stovall and Boston have been "working their butts off". Jim Flynn from the Pewter Report mentioned the buzz in the organization around Boston when we interviewed him last month - we'll certainly be talking to him again and asking about Boston before the season starts.This could be much ado about nothing, but if Boston starts shining in camp and getting lots of reps with the first, or even second teams, then he won't be on any waiver wires in deep dynasty leagues any more, and his owners will be much more reluctant to include him in as a minor throw-in in a deal. He's one of the players I am most interested in watching in preseason action to see if he's really "back".

Stay tuned....

 

[CommuterMan]

WOW... Boston is only 28!!! I would have peg him to be around 30-32... I guess time flys when your career has gone from 60 to 0 in the matter of a season

 

[The Shizzle]

David Boston, imagine that, next you will tell me Andre Wadsworth wants to make a comeback.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

 

[Brutis]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Boston was on every waiver wire in my dynasty leagues, dropping your backup Defense for him is about as low risk as you can get.

 

[aposulli]

All offseason we've been hearing whispers that Boston is "back"... another nice piece today from the Tampa Tribune:

Link

"The David Boston I know is a guy who just dominated, period," said Bucs running back Michael Pittman, a former Cardinal teammate. "He was someone who made it look easy. I know what David can do when he's healthy, and right now, he looks healthy."

Boston, 28, likes his chances to stick this time around. He is another year removed from knee surgery and a four-game NFL suspension for steroid use that marred his disastrous stint with the Dolphins.

"He was one of the elite receivers in all of football a few years ago," Gruden said. "I don't even think anyone knows he's around. That's what I tell him every day - that people have forgotten about you."

It's difficult for a 6-foot-2, 230-pound target to disappear, but Boston has played only five games since 2003, when he caught 70 passes for the Chargers despite serving a one-game suspension for behavior Coach Marty Schottenheimer deemed unacceptable.

"David's driven, and he's doing things I've never seen him do," Pittman said. "He's on punt team as a gunner, he's on kickoff return as a receive guy. He was at all the OTA workouts and he's very serious about this. If a guy really wants to come back, he can get the job done. I know one thing … David Boston can make a big difference for this football team."

Yeah. it's Michael Pittman talking, grain of salt, etc, etc, but like Pittman said, we all know what Boston did before - his cost in dynasty leagues is beyond dirt cheap, and there is a spot for the taking in the starting lineup. Gruden said Stovall and Boston have been "working their butts off". Jim Flynn from the Pewter Report mentioned the buzz in the organization around Boston when we interviewed him last month - we'll certainly be talking to him again and asking about Boston before the season starts.This could be much ado about nothing, but if Boston starts shining in camp and getting lots of reps with the first, or even second teams, then he won't be on any waiver wires in deep dynasty leagues any more, and his owners will be much more reluctant to include him in as a minor throw-in in a deal. He's one of the players I am most interested in watching in preseason action to see if he's really "back".

Stay tuned....

This thread should be turned into a poll on which smiley face is most appropriate.... :11:

or just a classic

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Boston was on every waiver wire in my dynasty leagues, dropping your backup Defense for him is about as low risk as you can get.

Depending on the size of your WW, I'd imagine there's about a good 10-15 other guys that you could do the same thing for that give you a ton more upside than Boston.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Boston was on every waiver wire in my dynasty leagues, dropping your backup Defense for him is about as low risk as you can get.

Depending on the size of your WW, I'd imagine there's about a good 10-15 other guys that you could do the same thing for that give you a ton more upside than Boston.

Gotta disagree with you here AD. Boston has already been a stud at the NFL level - that instantly makes his upside higher than 99% of the guys on any deep dynasty waiver wire.Like I said, this could be a lot of smoke with no fire, but in the off chance there's something to this buzz, what does it really cost to pick up Boston? By week 2 or 3 training camp, I think we'll know whether its worth it to keep Boston rostered.

 

[Statorama]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Anyone picking up Boston will get exactly what they deserve.:BeenThere:

 

[On The Rocks]

David Boston = Tease

However...any under 30 year old player that had 90+ / 1500+ season just 4 years ago is certainly worth keeping an eye on for a late round roll of the dice. If the draft were held today, I wouldn't touch him, but two months from now and after a few weeks of camp,...you never know.

 

[Warpig]

Countdown until Brian Smith plucks him off the waiver wire:

10...9...8...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Depending on the size of your WW, I'd imagine there's about a good 10-15 other guys that you could do the same thing for that give you a ton more upside than Boston.

Gotta disagree with you here AD. Boston has already been a stud at the NFL level - that instantly makes his upside higher than 99% of the guys on any deep dynasty waiver wire.Like I said, this could be a lot of smoke with no fire, but in the off chance there's something to this buzz, what does it really cost to pick up Boston? By week 2 or 3 training camp, I think we'll know whether its worth it to keep Boston rostered.

I guess then it devolves into a discussion on what "deep" means. If you're saying that Boston has the chance to outperform names like Dominique Zeigler, Markee White, and Sloan Thomas, I guess I can agree with you.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Boston was on every waiver wire in my dynasty leagues, dropping your backup Defense for him is about as low risk as you can get.

Not when your back up defense is New England

 

[Andy Dufresne]

David Boston = TeaseHowever...any under 30 year old player that had 90+ / 1500+ season just 4 years ago is certainly worth keeping an eye on for a late round roll of the dice. If the draft were held today, I wouldn't touch him, but two months from now and after a few weeks of camp,...you never know.

It was SIX years ago - 2001 - when he had 98 catches. Then he apparently was caught in the blast of a gamma bomb he created, and was transformed into the Hulk, a raging monstrosity.

 

[fatness]

I know what Eddie George can do when he's healthy, and right now, he looks healthy

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Depending on the size of your WW, I'd imagine there's about a good 10-15 other guys that you could do the same thing for that give you a ton more upside than Boston.

Gotta disagree with you here AD. Boston has already been a stud at the NFL level - that instantly makes his upside higher than 99% of the guys on any deep dynasty waiver wire.Like I said, this could be a lot of smoke with no fire, but in the off chance there's something to this buzz, what does it really cost to pick up Boston? By week 2 or 3 training camp, I think we'll know whether its worth it to keep Boston rostered.

I guess then it devolves into a discussion on what "deep" means. If you're saying that Boston has the chance to outperform names like Dominique Zeigler, Markee White, and Sloan Thomas, I guess I can agree with you.

Offense only leagues with 25+ roster spots, IDP leagues with 40+ roster spots, leagues like the Red Dog league we drafted in February would qualify as deep imo. Leagues where 95% of the top 3-4 WR on every single team are rostered. I don't even have Boston in my top 75 dynasty WRs, but I do think he has more upside than many of the the guys I have in the 51-75 tier, he just has a more remote chance of hitting it.

 

[dirtyhalos]

Countdown until Brian Smith plucks him off the waiver wire:10...9...8...

is he on our ww?edit to add bloom owns him.........bloom, trade me boston cheap please, i hear he has big upside

 

[Warpig]

David Boston = Tease

However...any under 30 year old player that had 90+ / 1500+ season just 4 years ago is certainly worth keeping an eye on for a late round roll of the dice. If the draft were held today, I wouldn't touch him, but two months from now and after a few weeks of camp,...you never know.

It was SIX years ago - 2001 - when he had 98 catches. Then he apparently was caught in the blast of a gamma bomb he created, and was transformed into the Hulk, a raging monstrosity.

Is he playing Hulk in Hulk 2? http://www.firedavewannstedt.com/1442boston-med.jpgIs there a CB in the league that can withstand a punch from him at the line?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Between Boston and Brandon Marshall, I'm not even planning on rostering any other WRs. Breakout studs here I come! Hey, their own players have said that they're awesome, what's not to believe?

*Championship*

 

[Andy Dufresne]

David Boston = Tease

However...any under 30 year old player that had 90+ / 1500+ season just 4 years ago is certainly worth keeping an eye on for a late round roll of the dice. If the draft were held today, I wouldn't touch him, but two months from now and after a few weeks of camp,...you never know.

It was SIX years ago - 2001 - when he had 98 catches. Then he apparently was caught in the blast of a gamma bomb he created, and was transformed into the Hulk, a raging monstrosity.

Is he playing Hulk in Hulk 2? http://www.firedavewannstedt.com/1442boston-med.jpgIs there a CB in the league that can withstand a punch from him at the line?

I think those are breast implants. Also, he must be right handed and REALLY lonely.

 

[Warpig]

David Boston = Tease

However...any under 30 year old player that had 90+ / 1500+ season just 4 years ago is certainly worth keeping an eye on for a late round roll of the dice. If the draft were held today, I wouldn't touch him, but two months from now and after a few weeks of camp,...you never know.

It was SIX years ago - 2001 - when he had 98 catches. Then he apparently was caught in the blast of a gamma bomb he created, and was transformed into the Hulk, a raging monstrosity.

Is he playing Hulk in Hulk 2? http://www.firedavewannstedt.com/1442boston-med.jpgIs there a CB in the league that can withstand a punch from him at the line?

I think those are breast implants. Also, he must be right handed and REALLY lonely.

In his biceps? Weird!

 

[gump]

Some questions come to mind:

Where does he fit in Gruden's O?

Has Gru had a similiar reciever? Porter?

His size would naturally slot him in Clayton's position. His speed would naturally slot him in Galloway's position. Will he be a hybrid?

Also something to keep in mind....when Gruden went to Atlanta to work out Calvin Johnson...he with him not Clayton, not Galloway, not Stovall...but Boston. Not sure why?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Everyone who has been watching Boston in minicamp/OTA's raise your hand.

I love the certainty that some are expressing in this thread - unless you have been at practices and can confirm from a first hand account that Boston really is done, I don't know why you would be so quick to write him off completely. It's not like this is a rumor, we are hearing this from multiple sources, including Jim Flynn, a Bucs insider from the Pewter Report.

Flynn gave us three relevant points in the interview:

1) Boston was released last year because he wasn't fully recovered from a knee injury.

2) "Several" sources told him this offseason Boston is "back" and "playing like his former self". Flynn could not confirm or deny this because the practices held up to that point were not open to the media or public.

3) The Bucs have actually changed their plans because of Boston's apparent resurgence. They were going to exclusively work Stovall out as Galloway's back up instead of "cross training" him at both starting WR positions, now they have gone back to working Stovall being cross trained, and Boston is the guy lining up exclusively behind Galloway.

The investment necessary to add Boston is about as minimal as it gets in dynasty leagues. If we see in the first few weeks of camp that the hype about Boston is unfounded, you can drop him and get back the guy you dropped to pick him up, or someone equivalent. Maybe there's only a 1% chance that Boston will get back to something approaching his top form, but why assume that it's 0% when we have reports that it might be happening and when the cost is so minuscule?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

His size would naturally slot him in Clayton's position. His speed would naturally slot him in Galloway's position. Will he be a hybrid?

see above post, according to Jim Flynn he's working as the backup to Galloway.

 

[az_prof]

Boston is a classic case of a Steroids Monster. Guy coming out of college was lanky. Then a year later he was cut like a rock. I always suspected he was doping and unless he is doping again, I doubt he will do much.

 

[switz]

Boston is a classic case of a Steroids Monster. Guy coming out of college was lanky. Then a year later he was cut like a rock. I always suspected he was doping and unless he is doping again, I doubt he will do much.

Actually he had an excellent rookie season, and didn't bulk up until the following year. Doubt he was successful due to the doping, in fact I would think the doping made him less successful.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

I thought George Jefferson was involved here somewhere...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I guess then it devolves into a discussion on what "deep" means.

If you're saying that Boston has the chance to outperform names like Dominique Zeigler, Markee White, and Sloan Thomas, I guess I can agree with you.

Who are three guys that have never been in my kitchen?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Countdown until Brian Smith plucks him off the waiver wire:10...9...8...

is he on our ww?edit to add bloom owns him.........bloom, trade me boston cheap please, i hear he has big upside

 

[GroveDiesel]

BTW, honestly, thanks for the heads up. My eye is now on him.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is kinda fun. I don't think I've ever been on the other side of the discussion from Sigmund Bloom like this before.

He's still my guy though.

Bloom, that is. Not Boston.

 

[lions327]

I'm not necessarily on the David Boston bandwagon (although i am definitely keeping my eyes open), but those of you in deep dynasty leagues, take a close look at the end of your rosters. What do you see? A bunch of players you are not expecting anything from, and probably young players with modest upside that doesn't match their hype.

If you even like him a little, picking him up is virtually risk free.

 

[Beaumont]

Already done weeks ago in two leagues ...

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Everyone who has been watching Boston in minicamp/OTA's raise your hand.I love the certainty that some are expressing in this thread - unless you have been at practices and can confirm from a first hand account that Boston really is done, I don't know why you would be so quick to write him off completely. It's not like this is a rumor, we are hearing this from multiple sources, including Jim Flynn, a Bucs insider from the Pewter Report.Flynn gave us three relevant points in the interview:1) Boston was released last year because he wasn't fully recovered from a knee injury.2) "Several" sources told him this offseason Boston is "back" and "playing like his former self". Flynn could not confirm or deny this because the practices held up to that point were not open to the media or public.3) The Bucs have actually changed their plans because of Boston's apparent resurgence. They were going to exclusively work Stovall out as Galloway's back up instead of "cross training" him at both starting WR positions, now they have gone back to working Stovall being cross trained, and Boston is the guy lining up exclusively behind Galloway.The investment necessary to add Boston is about as minimal as it gets in dynasty leagues. If we see in the first few weeks of camp that the hype about Boston is unfounded, you can drop him and get back the guy you dropped to pick him up, or someone equivalent. Maybe there's only a 1% chance that Boston will get back to something approaching his top form, but why assume that it's 0% when we have reports that it might be happening and when the cost is so minuscule?

I hang on to guys longer than most, but the problem this year is that we heard almost exactly the same stories from last year's camp and he ended up a non-factor AGAIN. Some of the Gruden quotes in particular could have literally been lifted from a 2006 camp interview.As for what it will cost, it's always about opportunity cost. If you have Boston, that's one less sleeper you like that you DON'T have. At this point, most people who gave him a shot last year would rather use that roster spot to pick up a guy who HASN'T had a shot (or several shots for that matter) yet.Honestly, having owned him in his heyday, it is VERY tempting to go get him. But I wonder if anyone who was hanging on to Boston because of upside last year missed out on a guy like Colston? It's conceivable I might have been one of those guys last year since I know I had Boston stashed in several leagues.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I'm not necessarily on the David Boston bandwagon (although i am definitely keeping my eyes open), but those of you in deep dynasty leagues, take a close look at the end of your rosters. What do you see? A bunch of players you are not expecting anything from, and probably young players with modest upside that doesn't match their hype. If you even like him a little, picking him up is virtually risk free.

Maybe. But what happens when you drop a Willie Parker, a Colston, or an Antonio Gates for him. Guys with "limited" credentials and "upside"?Obviously, those examples are few and far between compared to the washouts, but the point is there is ALWAYS a cost when you have limited rosters.

 

[Fallerjw]

Boston is a classic case of a Steroids Monster. Guy coming out of college was lanky. Then a year later he was cut like a rock. I always suspected he was doping and unless he is doping again, I doubt he will do much.

Actually he had an excellent rookie season, and didn't bulk up until the following year. Doubt he was successful due to the doping, in fact I would think the doping made him less successful.

1999 Draft6' 3" 215 pounds

http://www.mvhs.sanjuan.k12.ut.us/htmls/CE...EH/dboston.html

2007 NFL.com

6'2" 228 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133230

Yes he got big, but he wasn't skinny in college.

 

[poopdawg]

Boston is a classic case of a Steroids Monster. Guy coming out of college was lanky. Then a year later he was cut like a rock. I always suspected he was doping and unless he is doping again, I doubt he will do much.

Actually he had an excellent rookie season, and didn't bulk up until the following year. Doubt he was successful due to the doping, in fact I would think the doping made him less successful.

1999 Draft6' 3" 215 pounds

http://www.mvhs.sanjuan.k12.ut.us/htmls/CE...EH/dboston.html

2007 NFL.com

6'2" 228 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133230

Yes he got big, but he wasn't skinny in college.

Yeah and now hes shrinking......

 

[Foosball God]

I generally respect Bloom and his opinions but at David Boston hype.

 

[poopdawg]

I generally respect Bloom and his opinions but at David Boston hype.

Let me start by saying that I do not own Boston in any of my leagues. However, as an owner at one time, I am keeping my eye on this. I remember watching him on several occassions literally pick up a defender with one arm and throw him off.

 

[Ozymandias]

David Boston

June 2002 Keep your eye on him; December 2002 BUST

June 2003 Keep your eye on him; December 2003 BUST

June 2004 Keep your eye on him; December 2004 BUST

June 2005 Keep your eye on him; December 2005 BUST

June 2006 Keep your eye on him; December 2006 BUST

June 2007 Keep your eye on him;

My eye is tired.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

More from The Pewter Report (June 19):

Boston has had some outstanding practices this offseason and dominated at times on Tuesday morning. Although he's not as fast as he was during his prime, Boston is back. He's getting good separation from defensive backs and making nice catches. Boston did, however, drop one pass during warm-ups.

Also, sounds like Boston is now cross-training:

It’s interesting to note that although the Bucs value Boston as a reliable backup behind WR Joey Galloway at the X (split end) spot, Boston has actually been cross-training a bit. He lined up as a Z opposite Galloway (X) on a few plays today. The Bucs like the idea of having both Galloway and Boston on the field at the same time. Those two are the Bucs’ fastest receivers.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

More from The Pewter Report (June 19):

Boston has had some outstanding practices this offseason and dominated at times on Tuesday morning. Although he’s not as fast as he was during his prime, Boston is back. He’s getting good separation from defensive backs and making nice catches. Boston did, however, drop one pass during warm-ups.

See? Told you so.

 

[vandyt]

Shouldnt Colin or Chris Smith have posted this? Seems like they have every year for the last 4-5 years or so.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I'm not necessarily on the David Boston bandwagon (although i am definitely keeping my eyes open), but those of you in deep dynasty leagues, take a close look at the end of your rosters. What do you see? A bunch of players you are not expecting anything from, and probably young players with modest upside that doesn't match their hype. If you even like him a little, picking him up is virtually risk free.

Maybe. But what happens when you drop a Willie Parker, a Colston, or an Antonio Gates for him. Guys with "limited" credentials and "upside"?Obviously, those examples are few and far between compared to the washouts, but the point is there is ALWAYS a cost when you have limited rosters.

What happens when you DON'T drop some no name hack for a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL? FWP and Colston were getting some mega uber hype in the preseason (don't remember if Gates got much his rookie season, though I know people were all over him before his breakout year).Do I honestly believe Boston will be able to do anything? Not really. But no matter what your opinion is of this guy, to say his upside isn't much, MUCH higher than other players getting drafted the same time he would be is absolute insanity.Last year he was recovering from knee injuries. What problems did he have? Was it something that can take two years to recover from? We seem to hand out a lot of two year window passes for other players, why not Boston? Because he's burned some of you? The guy is only 28. That's still relatively young. Who does he have ahead of him? Galloway...and...Clayton? Galloway has the spot locked up but Clayton hasn't shown any reason he should be handed the other position.This is the time of year when EVERY player looks good but how anyone could think Boston isn't worth paying any attention to is beyond me.Thanks for the heads up Bloom.

 

[bloomfan#1]

This is EXACTLY why I am Bloom's biggest fan!!!!!

I am amazed really at the doubt in this thread, all Siggy (thats what I like to call him) is saying is that if he's on the WW, he's worth putting on your roster.

Thank you Mr. Bloom, I just acquired David Boston in 3 of my 4 dynasty leagues.

Keep the good news coming....I'll keep you in mind when counting my Championship Checks.

 

[ookook]

My doubts do not center on Boston as much as the whole TB offense.

For what it is worth, I buy into the doping causing derailment but the knee injury limiting comeback. Healthy, he should have some potential, but at TB?

How many WRs might be productive here?

How many routes can herun at game speed without reinjuring himself?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is EXACTLY why I am Bloom's biggest fan!!!!!I am amazed really at the doubt in this thread, all Siggy (thats what I like to call him) is saying is that if he's on the WW, he's worth putting on your roster.Thank you Mr. Bloom, I just acquired David Boston in 3 of my 4 dynasty leagues. Keep the good news coming....I'll keep you in mind when counting my Championship Checks.

IPS address check on aisle nine, please!

 

[bloomfan#1]

This is EXACTLY why I am Bloom's biggest fan!!!!!I am amazed really at the doubt in this thread, all Siggy (thats what I like to call him) is saying is that if he's on the WW, he's worth putting on your roster.Thank you Mr. Bloom, I just acquired David Boston in 3 of my 4 dynasty leagues. Keep the good news coming....I'll keep you in mind when counting my Championship Checks.

IPS address check on aisle nine, please!

Gettin' Siggy Wit' It

 

[CalBear]

He's no Marcus Robinson.