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Calif HS Serves Fried Chicken and Watermelon for Black History Month (1 Viewer)

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Offensive Black History Month Menu: Carondelet High School For Girls Apologizes For Fried Chicken, Watermelon, Cornbread Lunch
By Howard Koplowitz
on February 06 2014 3:32 PMA California private school has come under fire for planning a Black History Month celebration that included a menu of fried chicken, watermelon and cornbread.
The Carondelet High School for Girls in Concord, Calif., is apologizing to parents and students for the offensive menu. It’s unclear whose decision it was to hold a lunch consisting of fried chicken, cornbread and watermelon. NBC Bay Area reported Thursday that students were looking for a way to honor Black History Month.

"I'd like to apologize for the announcement and any hurt this caused students, parents or community members," Carondelet Principal Nancy Libby said in a letter sent to parents. "Please know that at no time at Carondelet do we wish to perpetrate racial stereotypes."

In a letter to the school community, Libby wrote that watermelon, fried chicken and cornbread will be removed from the lunch menu. She also agreed to hold a diversity assembly for students and faculty at the all-girls school.

Both Libby and the school’s dean declined to talk with NBC Bay Area about the Black History Month lunch menu controversy.

James Taylor, a professor at the University of San Francisco, said the menu is offensive even if the school had good intentions.

"Chicken, watermelon, collard greens -- these stereotypes of black Southern culture come from the same place that the N-word comes from," he said. "This is not like, 'This food represents this heroic moment in African-American experience.' What it represents is the degradation and the stereotyping of African-Americans."
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Good thing they didn't serve them lobster

Dirt-cheap because they were so copious, lobsters were routinely fed to prisoners, apprentices, slaves and children during the colonial era and beyond. In Massachusetts, some servants allegedly sought to avoid lobster-heavy diets by including stipulations in their contracts that they would only be served the shellfish twice a week.
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E Street Brat said:
Good thing they serve them lobster

Dirt-cheap because they were so copious, lobsters were routinely fed to prisoners, apprentices, slaves and children during the colonial era and beyond. In Massachusetts, some servants allegedly sought to avoid lobster-heavy diets by including stipulations in their contracts that they would only be served the shellfish twice a week.
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Lobster is pretty terrible.

 
Maybe a fuss wouldn't have been made if they had left out watermelon. Fried chicken, collards, and cornbread are all soul food or southern cuisine staples.

 
It sucks that the good names of fried chicken, watermelon, corn bread and collard greens get sullied for association with racial stereotyping.

 
simey said:
Maybe a fuss wouldn't have been made if they had left out watermelon. Fried chicken, collards, and cornbread are all soul food or southern cuisine staples.
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:goodposting:

We have a black history luncheon thing here at work and that's pretty much the menu. Of course, it's planned by actual black women which makes all the difference.

 
simey said:
Maybe a fuss wouldn't have been made if they had left out watermelon. Fried chicken, collards, and cornbread are all soul food or southern cuisine staples.
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Yeah, it's really weird and probably irrational that the inclusion of watermelon is what makes it racist, but I agree with your take. The meal you described would be fine IMO.

 
Several students told NBC Bay Area that Libby talked to members of the Black Student Union on campus, and the students suggested that the watermelon be taken off the menu.

Libby agreed to make that change, they said. She also said in a letter to the school community that they will remove fried chicken and cornbread from the menu.
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I honestly could have had this for dinner as a kid or even as an adult. So apparently the BSU objected to the watermelon, but not (apparently) the fried chicken or cornbread? That must have been some debate. ("Hm, maybe we should keep the chicken, the food in the cafeteria sucks.")

Announcement at the Carondelet School for Gulls:

"Ok kids, you are not getting fried chicken, watermelon and cornbread! We apologize. Instead you will be receiving your usual alotment of mystery meat, gruel a la brick, and hash for the entire month! Isn't that better?"

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Several students told NBC Bay Area that Libby talked to members of the Black Student Union on campus, and the students suggested that the watermelon be taken off the menu.

Libby agreed to make that change, they said. She also said in a letter to the school community that they will remove fried chicken and cornbread from the menu.
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I honestly could have had this for dinner as a kid or even as an adult. So apparently the BSU objected to the watermelon, but not (apparently) the fried chicken or cornbread? That must have been some debate. ("Hm, maybe we should keep the chicken, the food in the cafeteria sucks.")

Announcement at the Carondelet School for Gulls:

"Ok kids, you are not getting fried chicken, watermelon and cornbread! We apologize. Instead you will be receiving your usual alotment of mystery meat, gruel a la brick, and hash for the entire month! Isn't that better?"
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This is a private, all-girls school in Concord CA. Tuition alone is $15k a year. I don't think they serve mystery meat or gruel. They probably have their own Starbucks.

 
Scoresman said:
Politician Spock said:
pollardsvision said:
Politician Spock said:
They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.
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Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.
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That's what they do for the other 11 months of the year.
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We don't have Chik-Fil-A's around here. I think SF wouldn't let them build one there because of their views on gays. Cant say I blame them.
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Huh? There are like 4 Popeye's in and around central SF. There's one on Mission.

 
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Officer Pete Malloy said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Several students told NBC Bay Area that Libby talked to members of the Black Student Union on campus, and the students suggested that the watermelon be taken off the menu.

Libby agreed to make that change, they said. She also said in a letter to the school community that they will remove fried chicken and cornbread from the menu.
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I honestly could have had this for dinner as a kid or even as an adult. So apparently the BSU objected to the watermelon, but not (apparently) the fried chicken or cornbread? That must have been some debate. ("Hm, maybe we should keep the chicken, the food in the cafeteria sucks.")

Announcement at the Carondelet School for Gulls:

"Ok kids, you are not getting fried chicken, watermelon and cornbread! We apologize. Instead you will be receiving your usual alotment of mystery meat, gruel a la brick, and hash for the entire month! Isn't that better?"
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This is a private, all-girls school in Concord CA. Tuition alone is $15k a year. I don't think they serve mystery meat or gruel. They probably have their own Starbucks.
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Ha, right, good point.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Scoresman said:
Politician Spock said:
pollardsvision said:
Politician Spock said:
They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.
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Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.
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That's what they do for the other 11 months of the year.
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We don't have Chik-Fil-A's around here. I think SF wouldn't let them build one there because of their views on gays. Cant say I blame them.
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Huh? There are like 4 Popeye's in and around central SF. There's one on Mission.
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wat

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Scoresman said:
Politician Spock said:
pollardsvision said:
Politician Spock said:
They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.
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Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.
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That's what they do for the other 11 months of the year.
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We don't have Chik-Fil-A's around here. I think SF wouldn't let them build one there because of their views on gays. Cant say I blame them.
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Huh? There are like 4 Popeye's in and around central SF. There's one on Mission.
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Chik-Fil-A, not Popeyes. Popeye's is ####### delicious.

This is what I was talking about.

 
I hope the white people in the kitchen wear blackface so that they can identify with black people during Black History month.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
pollardsvision said:
Politician Spock said:
They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.
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Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.
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Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.
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I'd assume most every place that has a CFA and no other chicken chain that people are fiercely loyal to, like Popeye's.

Even then, in NC where Bojangles has a very loyal following, white folks still love CFA.

Bojangles is fairly new to most VA markets (or not there at all), so there's nothing stopping CFA domination.

From my experience, they are usually located very close to a Target, which makes life simpler for everyone.

 
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GordonGekko said:
I keep saying, have kept saying, despite being heckled and jabbed for it, for years

If I don't

- Live near you

- Talk to you

- Socialize with you

- Work with you

- Seek to hire you actively

- Let my kids play with your kids

- As much as possible, allow my work sphere to interact with yours

- Basically walk into the typical lose/lose scenario presented

Then I stand a better chance statistically of

- Not being shot, carjacked or have my neighborhood be burned to the ground

- Have your kids interfere with the development of my kids

- Not being extorted at work by a For Profit martyr group trying to leverage negative PR and threat of a lawsuit

- Not being hit with a lawsuit or threatened with one

- Generally have my life set into turmoil

And I've always said. right when, when a black family in a predominately black American neighborhood starts to get ahead. The parents get educated get better jobs, get more opportunity, want more for their kids. They don't STAY there, they don't stay and try to reinvest in the average predominantly black community, which is often full of low income and poorly socialized people, many with extreme crime rates, poor rated schools and a culture built around seeking the next entitlement from the liberal feminist establishment.

They leave. The family units run, sadly, by only black single mothers, even if they have to work 2 jobs to do it, MOVE OUT. They aren't trying to salvage the black neighborhoods. They want their kids out.

This is seen as progress. Getting their kids around other children who are geared, by a baseline social standard, of life success is their goal. Getting to live somewhere where statistically less likely to be shot walking from their car to their front door at night is their goal. Wanting their kids to be able to play in parks that aren't drug infested, aren't teeming with narcotics units and K9s and generally be able to sleep at night without hearing gunfire is their goal.

When a black family does this, it's seen as PROGRESS. When any non African American says they want the same thing, to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get out of those poor neighborhoods and away from those negative elements, it's called by black lobbyists who threaten lawsuit at anything, liberals, whites who have no black friends but have seen The Wire twice through and guys with no social power like Fennis to be racism.

What guys like Fennis don't understand is many of you are

1) Homeowners

2) Parents

And ding ding ding, those are the two BIGGEST factions of "racists" in America. Not white people. Not rich people. Not overly educated people.

But people who own homes and people with kids. Because people who work and bleed to buy a home aren't going to be ok with Section 8 housing coming in two blocks away from them. People who are parents have little to no tolerance to their kids being around kids who are seen as bad seeds. Kids who are bred with ignorance and from families that don't value education, have a history of criminals in them, and often live on the system, basically becoming breeding grounds to take advantage of our liberal welfare state.

When you buy a gun for self defense, you aren't worried about Anthony Borberley shirking getting paid content to you on time because he's got term papers, with Buttermilk Ranch dressing all over his fingers from dipping french fries, and salad and pretty much any meat product in it, while bemoaning the Rooney Rule to the one black guy he kind of passes by every day. You are thinking about black people. When you get a home security system, you aren't afraid of some guy named Chad, with a popped collar, a skin tight Le Tigre shirt and GAP khakis breaking into your home, you are thinking about black people. When you go to your car late at night in a parking structure, and you are thinking this isn't a safe spot to be for long, you could get mugged or stabbed or carjacked here, you aren't thinking about being violated by three guys who look like the cast of Friends, or some Lifetime movie. You are probably thinking about black people.

In modern western society, there are racists. There are also people who make honest mistakes. The margin for error is pretty much zero. Even if you do nothing wrong, the accusation alone can be damaging. It's a classic lose/lose situation. The answer is not to play.

The mistake by this school or this principal was to engage at all.

Does that mean you shouldn't have any black friends or coworkers or employees at all? No, it's fine when you have those that are long known to you and whom are hated by their own general culture. ( Why is that an indictment? It's the same culture that has en masse socialized their kids to harass other black kids who show signs of academic success. How in the hell can you survive as a culture and thrive with that kind of mentality ) People make fun of Wayne Brady for not being "black enough" What does that mean? He's problem because he's not trying to be a triple threat actor/singer/rapper/media mogul/fashion model/sports agent? He's a problem because he doesn't beat women, shoot up night clubs and try to intimidate white people with threats of lawsuits? He's a sell out because he doesn't see the need to operate using profanity, encouraging violence or talking about all his personal possessions and have 10 kids from 10 different stewardesses?

Blacks in America sadly do ONE THING WELL. Kill each other off. Sad as it is. My take on it is this, let them. Engaging with them in most situations will only bring bad PR, lawsuits, violence and problems for me, so why even bother. It's like a guy driving on the free way that is driving crazy, best thing to do is slow down, let him pass far far far away and in front of you, and just say, "Go ahead, go ahead and die, if that's your choice, as long as it has nothing to do with me"

Of course Tim Chochet is going to show up, huffing and puffing about rights and what's right and wrong. But in a world lacking social order, lacking law enforcement, lacking a military, having a full social breakdown of services and supplies and essentials, do you think Tim Chochet is going to risk the lives of his two daughters when he sees a group or armed black guys marching down the street and his liberal mindset makes him believe they are there to restore order? See because that black single mom who moved out of those crappy drug filled crime ridden neighborhood already know the answer.

So while Tim Chochet's daughters are being gang raped and he's got his throat cut in this kind of world, remember, he might be smarter than a 5th grader, but he is just liberal enough to be dumber than many black single mothers.

I think this is the point where Sigmund Bloom calls me a bigot again, while ironically is probably thinking about which rap song to blare through the Audible once again this season. As if he would move people he loved and cared about into a crime infested drug laden neighborhood full of barred windows, litter and lousy schools.
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didn't read any of this. please summarize.

 
Warm cornbread with real butter and honey sounds awesome about right now.

 
HughHoney said:
So what food should be served for black history month?
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I think it's a bit of a tricky situation, and as others have alluded, it's more about the messenger than the message, so to speak.

It shouldn't be a bad thing to eat fried chicken or say someone else likes fried chicken. Fried chicken is very, very good.

But, for some stupid reason, idiots decide to turn liking fried chicken into something derogatory, using it in conjunction with other phrases to demean and stereotype black people.

So, the fried chicken issue can be understandably offensive, even if it's not intended to be.

I have no idea if what this school did was right or wrong, but it's no surprise it raised eyebrows.

 
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