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Calling all Steelers and Ravens fans (1 Viewer)

Captain Spaulding

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Since there is such enormous hatred towards each team, would you consider your season a success if you just win this game decisively (because honestly...both games this season were dead even) and the Superbowl outcome doesn't matter?

Even though I'm a Steeler fan, I'll be fair to admit that neither of those reg. season games this season proved anything. Ravens=Steelers just based on both games. Just because the Steelers had a few extra points on the board at the end, from everything I witnessed they played nearly equal.

I talked to another co-worker who is a die hard Steelers fan, and we both will be content to just beat down the Raven's once and for all without any sorts of controversy....just a true old fashion statistically dominating / line of scrimmage dominating performance...no bad ref calls (or no calls) playing any significant factors...no fluky turnovers leading to points or taking points off the board etc..

If we can achieve winning the championship game without any controversy, in will be a victorious season and nothing to be upset about if we lose the Superbowl to the Cards/Eagles.

Any Ravens or Steelers fans feel the same way as I do?

What a great rivalry!!!! Let the blood bath and carnage begin!

 
Not a Steelers or Ravens fan, but you're saying that if you beat the Ravens decisively, but then lose the Super Bowl to the Cardinals (the Cardinals!!!), you'd consider the season a success? I find that really hard to believe.

 
Not a Steelers or Ravens fan, but you're saying that if you beat the Ravens decisively, but then lose the Super Bowl to the Cardinals (the Cardinals!!!), you'd consider the season a success? I find that really hard to believe.
I'm with you Ted; hard to swallow being content with losing the SB to a 9 win team.
 
Since there is such enormous hatred towards each team, would you consider your season a success if you just win this game decisively (because honestly...both games this season were dead even) and the Superbowl outcome doesn't matter?Even though I'm a Steeler fan, I'll be fair to admit that neither of those reg. season games this season proved anything. Ravens=Steelers just based on both games. Just because the Steelers had a few extra points on the board at the end, from everything I witnessed they played nearly equal.I talked to another co-worker who is a die hard Steelers fan, and we both will be content to just beat down the Raven's once and for all without any sorts of controversy....just a true old fashion statistically dominating / line of scrimmage dominating performance...no bad ref calls (or no calls) playing any significant factors...no fluky turnovers leading to points or taking points off the board etc..If we can achieve winning the championship game without any controversy, in will be a victorious season and nothing to be upset about if we lose the Superbowl to the Cards/Eagles.Any Ravens or Steelers fans feel the same way as I do?What a great rivalry!!!! Let the blood bath and carnage begin!
Are you serious? Rivalry or not, it's all about the superbowl.
 
"moral victory" = "L in the loss column"

there is ONLY one choice for Steeler Nation

ONE FOR THE OTHER THUMB!!!

 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.

I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.

 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.
Given the occurrences in the playoffs over the past few weeks, things have lined up nicely for the Steelers to win another superbowl. They are the favorites right now. As a fan, I will be extremely disappointed if they don't win it this year.
 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.
Given the occurrences in the playoffs over the past few weeks, things have lined up nicely for the Steelers to win another superbowl. They are the favorites right now. As a fan, I will be extremely disappointed if they don't win it this year.
Yeah, I'll be disappointed too. But I wouldn't say that the season was unsuccessful.
 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.
Given the occurrences in the playoffs over the past few weeks, things have lined up nicely for the Steelers to win another superbowl. They are the favorites right now. As a fan, I will be extremely disappointed if they don't win it this year.
Yes, it really is that simple.
 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.
Given the occurrences in the playoffs over the past few weeks, things have lined up nicely for the Steelers to win another superbowl. They are the favorites right now. As a fan, I will be extremely disappointed if they don't win it this year.
Yeah, I'll be disappointed too. But I wouldn't say that the season was unsuccessful.
I don't necessarily subscribe to the "only winning the Super Bowl matters", "If you're not first, you're last" mentality. There's context to every season, and every game within a season. There is such a thing as moral victories, stepping stones and success without necessarily winning the championship. You're going to tell me that the Falcons season was a FAIL just because they didn't win the Super Bowl? Gimme a break.That said, losing the Super Bowl to the Arizona Stinkin' Cardinals would be quite dubious for the Ravens and even moreso for the Steelers (and even the Eagles this week) and would cast a pall over the rest of the accomplishments of the season. You'd forever be the team that lost the championship to Bill Bidwell. No pressure though
 
Success? If you win a playoff game your season is a success. Both teams have already had successful seasons.I really don't understand the "SB victory or bust" mentality.
Really? When are at the AFC Championship game and are favorites?This is the 5 time champion Steelers we're talking about, not the Arizona Cardinals.
 
I know the knee-jerk response is to say that it's Super Bowl or bust, but as a Ravens fan, I would consider a Super Bowl loss this season a disappointing ending to one of the greatest and most enjoyable seasons that I've ever enjoyed.

If the Ravens go into Pittsburgh and whip the Steelers on their home turf, making Flacco the first rookie QB ever to reach a Super Bowl, no loss in the next game would take that away. And it's not impossible -- for example, Boldin and Fitz being healthy would make the Cards a terrible match-up for the Ravens. Their one defensive weakness is teams that throw the ball deep effectively -- that's why the Colts always kill them.

 
So as Steeler fans, you would be more heartbroke losing the Superbowl to the Cards/Eagles than to let the Ravens come in and win the championship game at Heinz (and have to hear Lewis and Suggs rub it in during in a post-game interview...ugghhhh)?

Ward even said on PTI last night that letting the Ravens win Sunday would probably be the most devestating thing in his career. He's experienced the Pats doing it 2x at Heinz in the championship, but said if the Ravens do it, it will be way worse.

 
So as Steeler fans, you would be more heartbroke losing the Superbowl to the Cards/Eagles than to let the Ravens come in and win the championship game at Heinz (and have to hear Lewis and Suggs rub it in during in a post-game interview...ugghhhh)?

Ward even said on PTI last night that letting the Ravens win Sunday would probably be the most devestating thing in his career. He's experienced the Pats doing it 2x at Heinz in the championship, but said if the Ravens do it, it will be way worse.
I don't think anyone said that. I'm sure everyone would rather beat Baltimore and lose in the Super Bowl than lose to Baltimore. But, that wasn't your question. You asked if losing the Super Bowl would be OK as long as they crushed the Ravens. The answer is, no it wouldn't be OK.
 
I've always felt that as a fan of a team its better to lose in the championship game then to lose the Superbowl (both for heartbreak factor and it flys under the radar of historical failure by most fans), but there is no "flying under the radar" if the Raven's beat Pittsburgh. That will be brought up in conversations for many years to come (at least in Pittsburgh/Baltimore media markets and players and such).

 
I've always felt that as a fan of a team its better to lose in the championship game then to lose the Superbowl (both for heartbreak factor and it flys under the radar of historical failure by most fans), but there is no "flying under the radar" if the Raven's beat Pittsburgh. That will be brought up in conversations for many years to come (at least in Pittsburgh/Baltimore media markets and players and such).
By that logic, it's better to be the Browns and never lose any playoff games. No thanks.
 
If you had told me before the season the Steelers would win their division and be playing in the AFC Championship game at home I would be very satisfied considering how difficult the schedule was.

However I have tickets for both the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl if the Steelers get that far and the Steelers are going to have to win both games for me to avoid disappointment.

 
I'm a Ravens fan and not having Suggs or Rolle is a very scary proposition.

I actually think that this will be the highest scoring game of the 3 between PIT-BAL.

McGahee is my sleeper of the week. Santonio Holmes and Nate Washington will do the most damage for PIT I think. S. Holmes also seems to burn us and also my fantasy teams this year. :shrug:

Winning this game would be the most satisfying Ravens win of all-time for me. Back in 2000 I was in Europe for most of the playoffs and just wasn't that into the Ravens yet for some reason. No matter what happens in the game; i would still consider this season an overwhelming success and am very optimistic about our future. Preseason we were pegged to be a 4-12 squad and now we are in the AFC championship game and have a franschise QB in Flacco.

Go Ravens!

 
I've always felt that as a fan of a team its better to lose in the championship game then to lose the Superbowl (both for heartbreak factor and it flys under the radar of historical failure by most fans), but there is no "flying under the radar" if the Raven's beat Pittsburgh. That will be brought up in conversations for many years to come (at least in Pittsburgh/Baltimore media markets and players and such).
That's stupid. For the simple fact that ESPN and ever other media outlet shows non-stop Super Bowl coverage; having your team be the subject of this coverage makes it all so enjoyable. I am loving this non-stop Ravens-Steelers coverage on ESPN!Also, you are going to wacth the Super Bowl regardless, so it's much better to have it be your team you are watching. You must be Lions fan. :shrug:
 
Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.
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Nope. You must be a fan of a team that is out of it. Right now we are all making plans for the game on Sundayto watch our team play their 3rd playoff game. Even if we lose, we still played in 3 postseason games, which is far better than playing in zero like most teams.Try telling Falcons fans that winning the Super Bowl is all that matters in Lions fans who would be ecstatic with an 8-8 season.If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
 
Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.
:) :rolleyes:
Nope. You must be a fan of a team that is out of it. Right now we are all making plans for the game on Sundayto watch our team play their 3rd playoff game. Even if we lose, we still played in 3 postseason games, which is far better than playing in zero like most teams.Try telling Falcons fans that winning the Super Bowl is all that matters in Lions fans who would be ecstatic with an 8-8 season.If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
When you have 5 bowls already, nothing else will do, playoffs are expected around here. Maybe it's being spoiled, but that the way it is...SB or bust.
 
Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.
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Nope. You must be a fan of a team that is out of it. Right now we are all making plans for the game on Sundayto watch our team play their 3rd playoff game. Even if we lose, we still played in 3 postseason games, which is far better than playing in zero like most teams.Try telling Falcons fans that winning the Super Bowl is all that matters in Lions fans who would be ecstatic with an 8-8 season.If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
When you have 5 bowls already, nothing else will do, playoffs are expected around here. Maybe it's being spoiled, but that the way it is...SB or bust.
So Cowher only had one successful season?
 
If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
Why is it OK for Colts/Pats fans to think that, but not Steeler fans?
Because I hate the Steelers. haha.After thinking about, these are the teams that currently fall into that category of all or nothing.GiantsPatsSteelersColtsChargersCowboys
 
I've always felt that as a fan of a team its better to lose in the championship game then to lose the Superbowl (both for heartbreak factor and it flys under the radar of historical failure by most fans), but there is no "flying under the radar" if the Raven's beat Pittsburgh. That will be brought up in conversations for many years to come (at least in Pittsburgh/Baltimore media markets and players and such).
As a Saints fan, I would have much rather lose to the Colts in the Super Bowl than the Bears in the NFC title game. I can't even fathom the excitement of knowing the Saints were going to play in the Super Bowl. If they lose, so be it... they always do anyway.
 
Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.
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Nope. You must be a fan of a team that is out of it. Right now we are all making plans for the game on Sundayto watch our team play their 3rd playoff game. Even if we lose, we still played in 3 postseason games, which is far better than playing in zero like most teams.Try telling Falcons fans that winning the Super Bowl is all that matters in Lions fans who would be ecstatic with an 8-8 season.

If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
When you have 5 bowls already, nothing else will do, playoffs are expected around here. Maybe it's being spoiled, but that the way it is...SB or bust.
So Cowher only had one successful season?
I disagree that the Steelers have to win the Super Bowl every year for the season to be considered successful. But based where things stand at this point, I will be disappointed if they don't win it all.
 
Beating a division rival in the playoffs is big, but as I recall from the Packers beating Detroit some years ago, and losing to Minn. more recently, if you don't end up winning the championship then it doesn't add much to the season.

 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.

 
Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.
:hey: :yes:
Nope. You must be a fan of a team that is out of it. Right now we are all making plans for the game on Sundayto watch our team play their 3rd playoff game. Even if we lose, we still played in 3 postseason games, which is far better than playing in zero like most teams.Try telling Falcons fans that winning the Super Bowl is all that matters in Lions fans who would be ecstatic with an 8-8 season.If you are a Patriots or Colts fan, than maybe winning the SB is all that matters, but you guys have been spoiled.
When you have 5 bowls already, nothing else will do, playoffs are expected around here. Maybe it's being spoiled, but that the way it is...SB or bust.
So Cowher only had one successful season?
He had many good/great seasons, but only one was a success.
 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.
So if they get to the AFCC and lose to a rookie QB with that D and Ben, you wouldn't consider this season a disappointment ?I sure would...
 
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Raven backer.

The season is already a success. It's been a great year, full of fun to watch games, and has us in position to contend for a title.

Of course, just like every other team still alive, we have two more goals: win the conference championship, and win the Super Bowl. Who we play is secondary to those concerns, bigtime. It makes it a little extra interesting that it's a rival, but should we win, the fact that it was over Pittsburgh would stop mattering as soon as the clock hits zero. At that point, the rivalry becomes irrelevant, and either the Eagles or the Cards becomes my most hated team.

 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.
So if they get to the AFCC and lose to a rookie QB with that D and Ben, you wouldn't consider this season a disappointment ?I sure would...
Based on the reasons I said, not a chance.
 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.
So if they get to the AFCC and lose to a rookie QB with that D and Ben, you wouldn't consider this season a disappointment ?I sure would...
Based on the reasons I said, not a chance.
Cool, I see where you're coming from, but I disagree.
 
If you had told me before the season the Steelers would win their division and be playing in the AFC Championship game at home I would be very satisfied considering how difficult the schedule was.However I have tickets for both the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl if the Steelers get that far and the Steelers are going to have to win both games for me to avoid disappointment.
Could not agree more. As the season evolved, my expectations increased.In the same boat on tickets, as well as disappointment from this point forward. Sunday is going to be a fight....for mature audiences only.....
 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.
So if they get to the AFCC and lose to a rookie QB with that D and Ben, you wouldn't consider this season a disappointment ?I sure would...
Good point. But I still consider this season a win no matter how you slice it. Looking at the schedule at the beginning of the season, I was hoping for just an 8-8 season. Now, I know that some of the teams on the schedule were less comp than I expected, but still, you have to be excited about where they are right now. With that said, this game probably has me more jacked up than a potential Super Bowl game. These two teams hate each other. This is the kind of game where you wake up at 6 AM, put on the jersey, dance around the house, and thank God that he has given us this kind of entertainment on a Sunday. What I wouldnt give to be out on this field come Jan 18th for just one play. Christ, I love football!!!!!
 
I think the answer to this question is extremely fluid. Only 2 wins away from the mission? Thinking of not accomplishing that goal would of course be disappointing. But if it didn't happen and you came back asking the question again in June - I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Steeler fan that looked back on '08 as a disappointment.

And I think those that would don't have a realistic view of what an amazing feat it really is.

 
I am a Steeler fan, and while I obviously want them to win it all, I still would not say this season would be a dissapointment if they lose. I just couldn't. At the beginning of the year, many (myself included) figured no more than 9 wins, 10 tops. Maybe not even make the playoffs. With the injuries and the offensive line play this year, and what they did with it, I still would be happy with their season. But obviously not as happy as I would be if they win the SB.
So if they get to the AFCC and lose to a rookie QB with that D and Ben, you wouldn't consider this season a disappointment ?I sure would...
Good point. But I still consider this season a win no matter how you slice it. Looking at the schedule at the beginning of the season, I was hoping for just an 8-8 season. Now, I know that some of the teams on the schedule were less comp than I expected, but still, you have to be excited about where they are right now. With that said, this game probably has me more jacked up than a potential Super Bowl game. These two teams hate each other.

This is the kind of game where you wake up at 6 AM, put on the jersey, dance around the house, and thank God that he has given us this kind of entertainment on a Sunday. What I wouldnt give to be out on this field come Jan 18th for just one play. Christ, I love football!!!!!
I couldn't agree more on that ! :shock:
 
In Pittsburgh, the Super Bowl is the standard ... Nothing else will do

The Steelers ride into their third American Football Conference championship game in five years tonight, their fourth in seven years, their sixth since 1994, and their 14th since the original cast of football icons led by Franco Harris himself mapped out a sporting empire in the 1970s.

This is an athletic opulence few cities even aspire to with any practicality. The Arizona Cardinals, who play the Philadelphia Eagles in today's earlier National Football Conference title game, have not mounted such a grand stage since the Truman administration, or approximately two decades before anyone so much as thought of a Super Bowl.

The skinny: Teams have met three times in the same season 18 times, with 11 sweeps. ... The Ravens led the NFL with 34 takeaways. Ed Reed has 10 INTs in their past eight games. ... John Harbaugh (16) and Mike Tomlin (32) have 48 regular-season games between them as head coaches, fewest for conference title game coaches in the Super Bowl era since the Colts' Don McCafferty and the Raiders' John Madden had 42 between them in 1970.

And still modern Championship Sundays in Pittsburgh deliver a seismic coupling of pride and wariness, something realist short story master Alice Munro might call "a terrible amount of luxury and unease."

The Steelers lost both championship games in the short history of Heinz Field. They've lost the last three title games played in Pittsburgh and four of the last five. But because they took the hair-raisingly uncharted Cincinnati-Indianapolis-Denver route to Super Bowl XL just three years ago, and because a victory tonight against the Baltimore Ravens would put them in a seventh Super Bowl (more than anyone except the Dallas Cowboys), they retain the perpetual civic burden of capacious expectations.

"We're used to this in Pittsburgh," said Hines Ward, the dean of Pittsburgh's stars. "No disrespect to the Pirates or the Penguins, but the standard around here is the Super Bowl every year. That's just what's expected."

Expectations are only part of the Pittsburgh/Steelers equation. On the other side is identity, as there is likely no fan base so intense, so far flung, so proud of something even as often indefinable as Pittsburgh ethos.

"I was at the Thursday night home game against Cincinnati [Nov. 20]," said Todd Eckert, the globe-trotting North Side film producer and video game developer, "and I was sitting next to two people from Alabama, a really hot girl who was maybe 25 and this guy she was with, he was maybe 35.

"So it was right after halftime, and I was just talking to them. 'Who are you?' 'What do you do?' That kind of thing. Not only were they in town purely to see the game, but it was as though by becoming Steeler fans, they felt they were subscribing to a certain ideology about the world. They were learning to be Steeler fans because they wanted to behave like Pittsburghers.

"More than any other sports franchise I can think of, there's a kind of work ethic about them, and I don't know if it's branding, because that gets oversimplified into black and gold or whatever, but it's something about the Steelers that is recognized in London, in Manchester; there's a Steelers bar in Leon, France."

Consequently, Pittsburghers, regional expatriates and converts the world over have an implied license to take this simple game hyper-seriously, regardless of the debatable global urgency of an event like tonight's. It's all predictably manic, if not a little bit comic.

"I've found what epitomizes Pittsburgh, what sums up what we're all about, and it's right there in the main terminal at the Pittsburgh airport," said Bill Crawford, the gifted young Pittsburgh comedian. "There are two huge statues there. One is of George Washington, and one is of Franco Harris. People from Pittsburgh pass them and think, 'Yeah, that's normal, let's get our flight,' or 'Yeah, that's totally all right, let's go to Brookstone.'

"But people from outside the city see that and think it's ridiculous. They're like, 'What? Wait, this guy's the father of our country, and this other guy caught a football off somebody's helmet 35 years ago.' You can hear the argument, right?

"Dude, he was the first president."

"Oh yeah? Well Franco was a first-round draft choice in 1972."

"But Washington beat the Redcoats."

"Hey, Franco beat the Raiders -- it's pretty well documented. It was Immaculate."

"C'mon; he was the leader of the Continental Army!"

"Franco had Franco's Italian Army, it was his army, so in my mind, Franco's up one."

Small wonder that our own view of world history, even as it's unfolding, often gets seen through a black-and-gold looking glass. On the front page of this newspaper, the morning of Dec. 29, an all-capital letters, five-column headline read, "BIG BEN DOWN, PROBABLY NOT OUT." The one-column head next to that said, "Israel pounds Gaza by air again."

Steelers nose tackle Chris Hoke, who spent two years after college at Brigham Young University banging on doors in Eastern Europe spreading the Mormon word, has to wonder at the way the Steelers' gospel spreads with such fluidity and penetration.

"Kids grew up watching the great Steelers of the '70's, when the Steelers were really made, and it's just become their life," Mr. Hoke said the other day. "It's so much better than where I'm from, Southern California. There, people go to the games just to be seen. They don't care about them much. People in Pittsburgh, they live and die with it, and I mean literally live and die. Remember during the Super Bowl, people died?"

People died during the Super Bowl, but whether it was game-related knows no documentation. Mr. Hoke had to be referring to Terry O'Neill, the then-49-year-old union man who toppled to the floor of a South Side tavern when Jerome Bettis fumbled near the goal line in Indianapolis in the divisional playoff in 2006. Mr. O'Neill was defibrillated back to life.

You wonder sometimes if the younger Steelers, and even second-year coach Mike Tomlin, fully understand the depth of feeling for days like today outside the locker room and the stadium.

"I don't, and I know that I don't," Mr. Tomlin said candidly last week. "I lead a kind of insulated life here in Pittsburgh. I go to work and I go home. But it's not that I don't appreciate it, not that I don't cherish the opportunity. I'm humbled to know that what we do is important to people. We take a real sense of pride from that."

As the next Steelers cataclysm draws within hours, additions to the faith are fervently sought and dutifully recorded. The Steelers have never lost to a division opponent such as Baltimore in a postseason game. They're 7-0. When they beat an opponent twice in one season, as they have the Ravens this year, they've never lost a third meeting such as this. They are 7-0.

In the compound Pittsburgh equation though, there is something more than, again, "a terrible amount of luxury and unease."

"The reason we watch sports is the uncertainty of the outcome, but it's particularly compelling in a framework of success, like in Pittsburgh," Mr. Eckert said. "Look at San Francisco. There is a history of bohemia, which is generally enough to color a future of bohemia to a certain extent.

"With Pittsburgh, the Steelers are the embodiment of everything the city has ever done right, presented today in the urgency of a live event, a live event that can color the question of whether we can continue to do so."

Kickoff: 6:30 p.m.

 
All Steeler fans can rest at ease now. Despite, the Steelers best attempts to squander away the game on Sunday (through poor clock mgmt. penalties, dropped easy TD passes, and discraceful 15 yard punts)...the Steelers prevailed both on the scoreboard that matched their clear and indisputable outplaying of the Raven's on the field.

Sure I'll still be down in the dumps if the Cards beat the Steelers, but not nearly as much as if the Steelers would have lost that game to the Ravens (especially the way the game played out).

 

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