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Calvin Johnson to retire - CONFIRMED (2 Viewers)

iamkoza said:
I think he told them, fire Caldwell or else I'll retire. Then the Ford's looked at Calvin's cap number and said ... we were going to fire him but now we'll keep Caldwell.

That's the only thing that makes sense in the Lions recent decision making processes ... And this thread
All kidding aside, even if he did retire, that wouldn't take away his cap hit, right? Doesn't it accelerate his signing bonus or something? I seem to remember this happening with someone a few years ago, though the specifics escape me.
Correct. The signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract, any remaining balance hits the salary cap. If the cut/retirement happens before June 1st the entire amount hits in 2016. If the cut/retirement is after June 1st the Lions can split the hit between 2016 and 2017.
well done on the scoop OP

They just had dave birkett on the radio and he said calvin would have to give back $10M of his signing bonus to retire... In my eyes, i dont care how well you saved your money, it would be awfully tough to have to cut that check. i bet he comes back or forces detroit to cut him.
Holy, didn't know that. That's definitely the other side to this, that he was telling everyone in the organization that he was going to retire (including my guy), in order for them to cut him or trade him.

 
Shutout said:
This thread is a perfect example of the society we live in today. Something didn't happen the nano-second it was expected so the barbarians were summoned to the gates and now might end up with some egg on the ole face.

A man with patience and timing skills is worth his weight in gold in todays Twitter/FB/insta-brag society.
Agree. The cynical and sardonic remarks made by dozens of people in this thread create a culture of negativity. Makes no one want to share anything. Then when the OP is proven right, we get a bunch of "nice call Bra, much respect" posts, though Im not sure if anyone learned anything.

 
maf005 said:
MattFancy said:
Don Quixote said:
"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future. I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."
What is the point of releasing a statement saying you're about to make a statement? Is this a negotiating tactic?
When the story broke today I forwarded it to my brother, and that was his immediate response. It would make sense. If they were inclined to give him a pay cut or trade him, this reduces their leverage. And if they were planning on cutting him (unlikely), this stays their hand, because they're not going to cut the greatest WR in franchise history if he's about to retire anyway.

 
maf005 said:
MattFancy said:
Don Quixote said:
"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future. I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."
What is the point of releasing a statement saying you're about to make a statement? Is this a negotiating tactic?
It could be, but, if you go up the thread, there were articles and tweets before the statement was released. It could just be a matter of the team getting questions about it and decided to respond with the statements.

 
biju said:
So in the wake of this news what is the dynasty strategy around Golden Tate, Eric Ebron, and perhaps even someone like Corey Fuller?

Anyone else we should be considering?
How about none of them. The team is way worse without him drawing double coverage. If they keep Caldwell around, no Calvin finishes him off for sure.

 
maf005 said:
MattFancy said:
Don Quixote said:
"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future. I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."
What is the point of releasing a statement saying you're about to make a statement? Is this a negotiating tactic?
When the story broke today I forwarded it to my brother, and that was his immediate response. It would make sense. If they were inclined to give him a pay cut or trade him, this reduces their leverage. And if they were planning on cutting him (unlikely), this stays their hand, because they're not going to cut the greatest WR in franchise history if he's about to retire anyway.
If what he wants is to retire without paying back any bonus, then he wants them to cut him. In which case staying quiet and letting his high salary justify his release would have been sufficient. Then he could "retire rather than play for someone other than my beloved Lions" and everyone comes out looking good.

If he wants to be traded to another team, then the same approach would seem to be in order...let the contract salary be sufficiently burdensome that the Lions try to deal him. But wouldn't he be as well off being released and signing with anyone he wants then?

Not seeing anything he gains by threatening retirement unless he wants to force Detroit to both keep him and pay him his full salary next season.

 
DocHolliday said:
Ilov80s said:
I assume a lot of it also $. The Lions need him to take less and he just might not think what they are offering is worth putting more miles on his body. I can see him as the type that's not interested in changing teams either. Calvin has real issues with his knees and has been avoiding surgery, I don't blame him for leaving now.
While it does seem likely that Calvin is going to retire, it would be great to see him get a chance to play for a winning team that gets into the playoffs. He may just not be able to physically do it.
He's not able to. I posted 2 years ago some health info that I shouldn't have because it's supposed to be private, but he has serious knee issues.
 
biju said:
So in the wake of this news what is the dynasty strategy around Golden Tate, Eric Ebron, and perhaps even someone like Corey Fuller?

Anyone else we should be considering?
How about none of them. The team is way worse without him drawing double coverage. If they keep Caldwell around, no Calvin finishes him off for sure.
Golden Tate was a WR1 when Calvin was out for much of last year.
 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
You are such an idiot, it's almost unbelievable.

Almost.

 
Shocking news to be released tomorrow apparently.

EDT: Didn't happen.... source might have been wrong, sorry guys.
Change that edit, you nailed it, you deserve the remove that edit for being what all of us what to be, which is the guy breaking the scoop. With the exception of "tomorrow" in your original post, which I'm sure you may not be so exact in your prediction next time to avoid some of the ridicule you even said you would expect, you had the info and the meat of the news.

I know this, if you have info like this I am listening. But still disagree with many of your opinions on certain things. :P

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
You are such an idiot, it's almost unbelievable.

Almost.
Please use my quotes in your signature as my response to this.

 
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 6m6 minutes ago

#Lions WR Calvin Johnson is serious about considering retirement, and he's mentioned his thoughts to teammates over the last few weeks.
Serious about getting off this crappy run team. He certainly eliminated any chance he gets traded to another crappy team with the threat of retirement. Virtually impossible to trade with such a high cap # but stupid teams would certainly consider it regardless.

 
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who announces they are considering retiring?

And I think if Caldwell is back, Calvin is. Otherwise he don't want to start over with a new coach, new system etc etc.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
I didn't post it to brag or get in a pissing contest here about 'oh I was wrong, it wasn't tomorrow". The guy inside the Lions organization said he was going to retire tomorrow. If you want to say I was wrong because I got the date wrong, honestly I don't care. It was still big info that there wasn't a PEEP about on the internet or twitter anywhere, so I thought I would share with the community here what I heard, even at the risk of rubbing some people the wrong way.

There was clearly validity that there were rumblings in Detroit though. Whether he does or not, or changed his mind, all I did was pass on info from a guy that was told he would be retiring.

 
who announces they are considering retiring?

And I think if Caldwell is back, Calvin is. Otherwise he don't want to start over with a new coach, new system etc etc.
It's weird he announced the "considering" part. From what I gather, he told some people close to him that he "was retiring". The guy found out about 1 week ago. Maybe he's cooled down the last couple days, or maybe the last game changed his mind, or maybe he wants to think it all out to be sure. I don't know the details. But from what I understand, a HUGE part of it has to do with the punishment his body has taken.

 
The Detroit Lions will get only minimal savings on their salary cap.

Johnson is due a base salary of $15.95 million in 2016 and carries a cap number of $24.008 million.

If he retires, Johnson still would count $12.9 million against the salary cap next year, the same as he would if the Lions released him because of his bloated cap figure.

The Lions would be entitled to pursue repayment of part of the signing and option bonuses Johnson received as part of his current contract, as they did when Barry Sanders retired shortly before the 1999 season. But that money - about $9.7 million total - would affect the Lions' salary cap as a credit beginning in 2017.

In all, the Lions would have an extra $11.1 million in cap space if Johnson retires, a savings similar to what they could get if Johnson agreed to a pay cut as part of a restructured contract this off-season.

Currently, the Lions have 40 players under contract and about $130 million in cap commitments for 2016. Next season's salary cap is projected to be north of $150 million.
 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
Not the point...the guy said it was possible and Mega was thinking about it...turns out he was right...and you are still running your mouth.

He actually said it was speculation and rumor that an announcement was coming.

Seems there is a bit more to it than how you have gone and on about it.

And he never just said "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

There was almost zero rumblings before this thread...now they are everywhere.

Its ok to just give the guy credit rather than continuing to look like...well, your normal self.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
I didn't post it to brag or get in a pissing contest here about 'oh I was wrong, it wasn't tomorrow". The guy inside the Lions organization said he was going to retire tomorrow. If you want to say I was wrong because I got the date wrong, honestly I don't care. It was still big info that there wasn't a PEEP about on the internet or twitter anywhere, so I thought I would share with the community here what I heard, even at the risk of rubbing some people the wrong way.

There was clearly validity that there were rumblings in Detroit though. Whether he does or not, or changed his mind, all I did was pass on info from a guy that was told he would be retiring.
Listen man, where there's smoke - there's fire. The point is, I was razzing you because you said he was going to retire 'tomorrow'. That was hilariously and obviously false that it needed to come out. If you would have simply said, "Calvin Johnson is considering retirement". I wouldn't have said anything as that wasn't obvious hyperbole.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
I didn't post it to brag or get in a pissing contest here about 'oh I was wrong, it wasn't tomorrow". The guy inside the Lions organization said he was going to retire tomorrow. If you want to say I was wrong because I got the date wrong, honestly I don't care. It was still big info that there wasn't a PEEP about on the internet or twitter anywhere, so I thought I would share with the community here what I heard, even at the risk of rubbing some people the wrong way.

There was clearly validity that there were rumblings in Detroit though. Whether he does or not, or changed his mind, all I did was pass on info from a guy that was told he would be retiring.
Listen man, where there's smoke - there's fire. The point is, I was razzing you because you said he was going to retire 'tomorrow'. That was hilariously and obviously false that it needed to come out. If you would have simply said, "Calvin Johnson is considering retirement". I wouldn't have said anything as that wasn't obvious hyperbole.
My source said that Calvin told some people inside the organization that he was going to retire on Monday. I'm sorry I don't know what changed that.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
Not the point...the guy said it was possible and Mega was thinking about it...turns out he was right...and you are still running your mouth.

He actually said it was speculation and rumor that an announcement was coming.

Seems there is a bit more to it than how you have gone and on about it.

And he never just said "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

There was almost zero rumblings before this thread...now they are everywhere.

Its ok to just give the guy credit rather than continuing to look like...well, your normal self.
No bro, what he said was he was going to retire "tomorrow". That was on the 3rd. It's now the 6th and he hasn't retired. That's the reason I made a joke. Because it was obviously wrong. Even if he retires tomorrow, I was making fun of the original poster's original claim.

If he simply said, "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" I wouldn't have made my original joke.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
I didn't post it to brag or get in a pissing contest here about 'oh I was wrong, it wasn't tomorrow". The guy inside the Lions organization said he was going to retire tomorrow. If you want to say I was wrong because I got the date wrong, honestly I don't care. It was still big info that there wasn't a PEEP about on the internet or twitter anywhere, so I thought I would share with the community here what I heard, even at the risk of rubbing some people the wrong way.

There was clearly validity that there were rumblings in Detroit though. Whether he does or not, or changed his mind, all I did was pass on info from a guy that was told he would be retiring.
Listen man, where there's smoke - there's fire. The point is, I was razzing you because you said he was going to retire 'tomorrow'. That was hilariously and obviously false that it needed to come out. If you would have simply said, "Calvin Johnson is considering retirement". I wouldn't have said anything as that wasn't obvious hyperbole.
My source said that Calvin told some people inside the organization that he was going to retire on Monday. I'm sorry I don't know what changed that.
Lol, broski, it's not even a huge deal. I was just having fun to begin with. You've got a scoop great, scoop wasn't 100% accurate and I called you on it. I don't think that entitles anyone to eat crow.

It is cool if you had legitimate insider information.

 
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Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
Not the point...the guy said it was possible and Mega was thinking about it...turns out he was right...and you are still running your mouth.

He actually said it was speculation and rumor that an announcement was coming.

Seems there is a bit more to it than how you have gone and on about it.

And he never just said "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

There was almost zero rumblings before this thread...now they are everywhere.

Its ok to just give the guy credit rather than continuing to look like...well, your normal self.
No bro, what he said was he was going to retire "tomorrow". That was on the 3rd. It's now the 6th and he hasn't retired. That's the reason I made a joke. Because it was obviously wrong. Even if he retires tomorrow, I was making fun of the original poster's original claim.

If he simply said, "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" I wouldn't have made my original joke.
Actually...he said to retire? With a question mark and said there was an announcement coming.

And that he had a source.

Seriously, do you sit down every day trying to figure out a way you can come off worse on these boards? Its the only thing I can think of...no way you are really this bad in real life or you would end up punched in the mouth every single day of your existence.

The OP looks great...you continue to look petty and foolish.

You should quit now...but we know you won't.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
Not the point...the guy said it was possible and Mega was thinking about it...turns out he was right...and you are still running your mouth.

He actually said it was speculation and rumor that an announcement was coming.

Seems there is a bit more to it than how you have gone and on about it.

And he never just said "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

There was almost zero rumblings before this thread...now they are everywhere.

Its ok to just give the guy credit rather than continuing to look like...well, your normal self.
No bro, what he said was he was going to retire "tomorrow". That was on the 3rd. It's now the 6th and he hasn't retired. That's the reason I made a joke. Because it was obviously wrong. Even if he retires tomorrow, I was making fun of the original poster's original claim.

If he simply said, "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" I wouldn't have made my original joke.
Actually...he said to retire? With a question mark and said there was an announcement coming.

And that he had a source.

Seriously, do you sit down every day trying to figure out a way you can come off worse on these boards? Its the only thing I can think of...no way you are really this bad in real life or you would end up punched in the mouth every single day of your existence.

The OP looks great...you continue to look petty and foolish.

You should quit now...but we know you won't.
I'm just going to leave this alone now. Never intended for it to turn into a big debate. The guy was told it was happening Monday, so I told you guys that he was "apparently announcing his retirement on Monday". That's it, that's all. Now I guess we wait and see if he changed his mind or if he was saying it strategically, or if he just needed to re-think about it for a few more days/weeks.

 
Casting Couch said:
Scoop of the decade. You are due some apologies, although most who bashed you will probably just disappear. :missing:
....and then there are other idiots who do return only to embarrass themselves with their tired, defiant rhetoric.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Ookie Pringle said:
Ministry of Pain said:
As usual the SP is blowing a gasket over nothing. Someone overheard a rumor and wanted to share. Had it been correct or if Johnson is no longer a Lion next season for whatever reason then I think the OP was more than justified.

I say bring the rumors and we will decide if they are horsespit or not.

I'm MOP and I approve this message.
I never ever do this but to the vast majority of the Shark Pool I say... :own3d:

But I love you all still the same
:rolleyes:
I wouldn't respond but to simply clarify that I meant the OP owned this place, not MOP. Simply pointing out I was the first to have his back and inject some rational thinking. If you can't accept that or agree with that I feel sorry for you.

The OP took a lot of heat and he shouldn't. But you keep rolling eyeballs while others keep posting information.

Sidenote: When this was up a few days ago and you Google the story, FBG was the ONLY site with any kind of murmur about this. I think that is pretty cool even if you and others don't.
I think it's pretty great actually. I agree with MOP.

 
tone1oc said:
Quasimoto said:
Shutout said:
This thread is a perfect example of the society we live in today. Something didn't happen the nano-second it was expected so the barbarians were summoned to the gates and now might end up with some egg on the ole face.

A man with patience and timing skills is worth his weight in gold in todays Twitter/FB/insta-brag society.
Deamon had no previous rep for having access to inside info, so when it didn't happen on time, the ribbing was predictable. Now he has rep. He's paid his dues and will be treated with deference the next time he comes to the board with a scoop. I didn't read all of the replies, but most of the ones I did read seemed mostly in jest.
Yep, such is the problem with the Shark Pool. Amateur comedians circle jerking all over to the point that any piece of information that might actually help your fantasy team gets lost in the noise. It's so annoying.
And this also. Good posting.

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
You are such an idiot, it's almost unbelievable.

Almost.
It's funny, I always hear everyone in the FFA crushing Em. I always thought he was alias and not really more of a mo than most of us. Now.I see it, lol.

 
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Shocking news to be released tomorrow apparently.

EDT: Didn't happen.... source might have been wrong, sorry guys.
God I hate quoting Em, but......................

The original post stated Calvin was retiring January 4th. He clearly did not.

He is 31 on a crappy team and wants out. Not a real surprise he is considering it (or should I say, making the Lions think he wants to).

If the original post said something about the janitor or whoever he knows said he heard Calvin was thinking about retirement, fine. Nope, we get "Calvin is retiring tomorrow, shocking news coming".

He isn't retiring anyway, so, whatevs,

 
Eminence said:
Deamon said:
Thanks guys. I fully expected to get attacked for starting it but figured I'd share what I heard with the community anyways. Even I started to get a little worried though once it didn't happen right away though haha
It still hasn't happened, lol.
Really doubling down in the stupid aren't you?
Really willing to bet that Calvin Johnson doesn't retire. Anyone want to bet on this? All other things aside it didn't start as "speculation". Original poster said, "Calvin Johnson is going to announce his retirement tomorrow!". His narrative slowly changed to the point where a quote stating the "Calvin Johnson is contemplating retirement" does not support his original claim that "Calvin Johnson is going to retire tomorrow".

If there is validity and there were rumblings in Detroit, then fine, this was insider information which could have given you an edge over the public.
I didn't post it to brag or get in a pissing contest here about 'oh I was wrong, it wasn't tomorrow". The guy inside the Lions organization said he was going to retire tomorrow. If you want to say I was wrong because I got the date wrong, honestly I don't care. It was still big info that there wasn't a PEEP about on the internet or twitter anywhere, so I thought I would share with the community here what I heard, even at the risk of rubbing some people the wrong way. There was clearly validity that there were rumblings in Detroit though. Whether he does or not, or changed his mind, all I did was pass on info from a guy that was told he would be retiring.
Listen man, where there's smoke - there's fire. The point is, I was razzing you because you said he was going to retire 'tomorrow'. That was hilariously and obviously false that it needed to come out. If you would have simply said, "Calvin Johnson is considering retirement". I wouldn't have said anything as that wasn't obvious hyperbole.
I'm embarrassed for you.

 

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