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packersfan
Footballguy
The guy was a stud last season with all sorts of garbage at QB. I think Culpepper is pretty worthless but I'm not sure he's any worse than Kitna and Orlovsky were last season. I think Calvin will be just fine. One thing Culpepper can still do is throw the deep ball and the Ravens have all sorts of problems with big plays in the secondary.
Soured?As a Calvin owner, the emoticon above represents how I'm feeling at the moment
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Have to agree the ranking raised an eyebrow with me too. Backup QB, FBG's SOS shows as a bad matchup. Playing on the road with snow/rain mix in the forecast.
Not sure I like it as much as the posted ranking.
Not sure I like it as much as the posted ranking.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Packersfan has a man-crush on Calvin. May take what he says with a grain of salt.
I have the same man love but do not feel great about his prospects this week.
packersfan
Footballguy
I plead guilty to thePackersfan has a man-crush on Calvin. May take what he says with a grain of salt.I have the same man love but do not feel great about his prospects this week.
but I still believe what I wrote. Culpepper's (only?) strength is the deep ball and that's a major issue with the Baltimore secondary. It's also a major strength of Megatron's game as we all know. If Calvin can put up elite numbers with the likes of Kitna and Orlovsky I think he can do well with Culpepper. But yes, I got the man love for Megatron. 
Northbound Train
Footballguy
GUys....don't worry about C-Pepp under Center...one thing he can do is throw a pretty good deep ball.
Just last week we saw him come in for the final 2 minutes and hit CJ with a 54 yard bomb a few plays later...
I'm starting him this week and like my chances better than having a Qb with a wounded wing
Just last week we saw him come in for the final 2 minutes and hit CJ with a 54 yard bomb a few plays later...
I'm starting him this week and like my chances better than having a Qb with a wounded wing
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Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Last week, we whined here 'cause he was ranked too low. This week we're whining that he's ranked too high? If you've got better options, go for 'em but you'd better have a hell of a roster to think about sitting him.
the branded hand
Footballguy
Culpepper = lots of targets for CJ
I doubt he'll check down to someone else, or have time to.
I doubt he'll check down to someone else, or have time to.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Never. Ever. Bench Calvin Johnson. Ever.
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
I'm right there with you. Hopefully it pays off for me. I traded S. Rice straight up for him the week Calvin was coming back from his injury. I do agree there is alot to love. Bad D, Lions playinhg from behind, tons of targets, incredible talent. Hopefully I make it to next week to take advantage of the juicy matchups.I plead guilty to thePackersfan has a man-crush on Calvin. May take what he says with a grain of salt.I have the same man love but do not feel great about his prospects this week.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I'm very 
about Calvin's prospects this week for several reasons:
The Ravens are ranked 15th against the pass giving up 215 yards a game.
The Ravens secondary is banged up.
After all the PI pentalties on Monday Night their corners may be hesitant to play physical with Calvin.
Calvin is probably as healthy as he's been since the start of the season.
Culpepper should obviously trust CJ to "go up and get it" after the late grab he made in traffic. (It was an absolute thing of beauty.)
The Lions offensive line has been protecting a little better and Calvin has been getting open deep.
...and Megatron is uncoverable.
I'm seeing a monster game like 7 for 140 and 2 TDs.
about Calvin's prospects this week for several reasons:The Ravens are ranked 15th against the pass giving up 215 yards a game.
The Ravens secondary is banged up.
After all the PI pentalties on Monday Night their corners may be hesitant to play physical with Calvin.
Calvin is probably as healthy as he's been since the start of the season.
Culpepper should obviously trust CJ to "go up and get it" after the late grab he made in traffic. (It was an absolute thing of beauty.)
The Lions offensive line has been protecting a little better and Calvin has been getting open deep.
...and Megatron is uncoverable.
I'm seeing a monster game like 7 for 140 and 2 TDs.
also the running game will be zero, so more passes thrown than usual, thus more targets for CJ...I'm veryabout Calvin's prospects this week for several reasons:
The Ravens are ranked 15th against the pass giving up 215 yards a game.
The Ravens secondary is banged up.
After all the PI pentalties on Monday Night their corners may be hesitant to play physical with Calvin.
Calvin is probably as healthy as he's been since the start of the season.
Culpepper should obviously trust CJ to "go up and get it" after the late grab he made in traffic. (It was an absolute thing of beauty.)
The Lions offensive line has been protecting a little better and Calvin has been getting open deep.
...and Megatron is uncoverable.
I'm seeing a monster game like 7 for 140 and 2 TDs.
grouse
Footballguy
Can't help but feel this is a big trap game for Calvin owners. The Ravens are playing at home, in a must-win game, with a rain/snow mix expected and a rusty Culpepper throwing the rock. Also, everyone seems to be mentioning how bad the Ravens secondary is - I think if you look a little closer, that may not be entirely accurate. True, the Ravens have really struggled against potent multi-faceted offenses ie, SD, NE, CIN, MIN, GB, IND. However, the Ravens have played far better against mediocre/vanilla offenses ie, KC, CLE, DEN. The Lions clearly fall into the latter category.
Obviously, Calvin is a tough player to sit, especially when healthy as he appears to be. But this feels like a boom or bust scenario, and I'm leaning more to the bust right now.
Obviously, Calvin is a tough player to sit, especially when healthy as he appears to be. But this feels like a boom or bust scenario, and I'm leaning more to the bust right now.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
He is going in- he is healthy but I do not know if Ed Reed is out again. Big play Calvin needs to show up now or this might be a shutout.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Let's add in that Culpepper is auditioning for a new gig. Who can help him most with that? Calvin Johnson. I would expect more targets to Calvin than Stafford's average per week.However, targets is one thing, connecting is another.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Calvin's previous games with Culpepper at QB:
2-92, 0 TD vs Jax
6-65, 1 TD vs Car
3-66, 1 TD vs. TB
5-66, 0 TD vs Ten
3-84, 1 TD vs Min
1-2, 0 TD vs Pit (injured)
Also worth noting is that he has only one catch over 50 yards, and only two catches over 40 yards with Culpepper at QB. So the "Cpepp will just throw it up deep to Calvin like he did with Moss" stigma doesn't really seem to apply that well.
2-92, 0 TD vs Jax
6-65, 1 TD vs Car
3-66, 1 TD vs. TB
5-66, 0 TD vs Ten
3-84, 1 TD vs Min
1-2, 0 TD vs Pit (injured)
Also worth noting is that he has only one catch over 50 yards, and only two catches over 40 yards with Culpepper at QB. So the "Cpepp will just throw it up deep to Calvin like he did with Moss" stigma doesn't really seem to apply that well.
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Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
I'm worried. It's possible that the Lions only have the ball 4 times in the first half.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
Understanding whether or not Ed Reed is playing is big here. Monday nite felt like every pass attempt against the Ravens was 20+ yards. I dont agree with the assessment regarding not having the ball as much. Seems to me the Ravens will want to tee off on the Lions and should be able to score quickly when they have the ball. The Lions will not be able to run the ball so that puts the pass in play no matter what the weather is.
footballnerd
Footballguy
FBG making up for last week?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I don't see the bolded as a negative thing in only 5 full career starts together. There aren't any huge games there, but there are 3 TDs. Calvin also caught a 38 yarder at the end of the Bengal game from Culpepper and was targeted on the 2 point conversion try.I don't know if Daunte will hit Calvin with a couple deep balls in this game, but it won't be for lack of trying if they can't connect.
Daunte's thoughts on making a start with Calvin in the lineup:
Culpepper said preparation is key to improving his showing from his first two starts. It will only help that wide receiver Calvin Johnson will be in the lineup. Culpepper didn’t have that luxury in his other starts.
“Having a player like that is always a plus, a guy who can make plays in any situation,’’ Culpepper said. “I’m excited with playing with him, too.’’
footballnerd
Footballguy
CJ actually had 2 catches of 51 and 41 in the Jags game.29 yd in the CAR game
A 41 yd in the TB game
and a 70 in the MIN game.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
, no excellent posting. 
Get ya roll on Pep.
goldenchild
Footballguy
You feeling okay today? I think think this is the first post from you on Calvin that you weren't completely bashing him.
harryhood
Footballguy
amazing how a good week changes everything, eh?
FavreCo
Footballguy
That's called coaching. I berate my players. I humiliate them in front of their teammates, challenging them to play their best. No idea what is wrong with this POS Nick Folk though. He has responded like a man in a coma for 50 years.
delusional
Footballguy
Hmm now I am torn....rice or magatron....ahhhhh the pressure
That's exactly my dilemma.I'm leaning towards CJ based on this thread.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
delusional
Footballguy
marshall and calvin it is :(
steelerfan1
Footballguy
i haven't watched a lot of the lions but the little i have seen, doesn't culpepper choose to dump off and check down most of the time now?
appeared that way the little i have watched.
appeared that way the little i have watched.
packersfan
Footballguy
I don't think the Cardinals are all that stout defensively. Alex Smith was able to get things done Monday night without much trouble when he needed to. But I agree Megatron's value takes a major hit with Culpepper at QB. Culpepper is just done. The positive is Calvin is all the Lions have left so he will get a ton of targets. But I'd view him as a WR2 without Stafford and I'd adjust my lineup accordingly. I also wouldn't start him over Rice and Austin if those were my options.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I predicted a big game for CJ last week and it didn't happen, but benching a player of Calvin Johnson's caliber after a poor outing is a mistake. Just ask the guys who benched him against the Bengals after his lackluster game against the Packers on Thanksgiving.
There seems to be a lot of "points chasing" with Calvin this year. He's the kind of player that the "never bench your studs" theory was coined for. If he starts, you put him in your lineup.
I'd be sick if I started some bum (just look through some of these "Bench Megatron?" threads for WRs being started over him), and Calvin had the monster game he's very capable of on my bench.
There seems to be a lot of "points chasing" with Calvin this year. He's the kind of player that the "never bench your studs" theory was coined for. If he starts, you put him in your lineup.
I'd be sick if I started some bum (just look through some of these "Bench Megatron?" threads for WRs being started over him), and Calvin had the monster game he's very capable of on my bench.
omally
Footballguy
Stanton is worse than Culpepper.
Yeah, but if you have other studs, then the decision is easier. CJ is now only a borderline stud, IMO.
14 weeks have been played at this point. In my PPR league, Calvin Johnson is ranked #25 year to date. He's directly below Burleson and above Housh.
This is not stud material. It continues to boggle my mind when people label him a stud. He is what he is at this point in the season.
Treat him as a stud at your own risk.
KY
This is not stud material. It continues to boggle my mind when people label him a stud. He is what he is at this point in the season.
Treat him as a stud at your own risk.
KY
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Possibly, but Stanton is under contract for next year and Culpepper is not. The Lions need to see if Stanton can backup Stafford.
packersfan
Footballguy
In his last five games, Johnson has put up 27-415-3. That's including one game with Culpepper (who has nothing left) and one game where he could barely move because he was injured. Project those numbers out to a full season and it comes to 86-1,328-10. He's most certainly a stud. The question now, though, is how much of an impact does Culpepper have on his ability to produce stud-like numbers? Based on last week, it's obviously a major factor. However, the schedule the rest of the way is hardly imposing for Calvin and he is going to get double-digit targets most games and you know the Lions are going to try to hit him for big plays downfield. He's more of a risk now without question as long as Culpepper is at QB. But the guy is an elite talent and I believe his floor is reasonable and his ceiling immense. So that's a guy I'm going to start.But as always, it comes down to your other options. Would I start Megatron over Austin and Rice this week? No I would not. But would I sit him in favor of guys like Holmes, Crabtree or Britt (all of whom I like)? No I wouldn't do that either.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
How do you know this? Stanton has never been given a real chance to play.
omally
Footballguy
It's my opinion on the limited time he has played. He played in a game this year when Culpepper went down (I think it was against Green Bay) and he looked terrible. He played in limited time last year (I think it was on Thanksgiving) and he looked terrible. Their offense moves the best with Stafford in.
FavreCo
Footballguy
I'm all for whatever gets Calvin the ball.
