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Right now, the prevailing thought by the locals is that the Lions will draft Suh unless they trade back.
Hey newb......I don't think you know yet, but you are way out of line. Anthony knows more about the Lions than most on this board. I'm not saying they won't draft Okung, but what makes you confident they will? There is more than 1 round in the draft, you know.
He isn't out of line.
I was not under the impression that the opinion Anthony posted was necessarily his own.As for what makes me so confident... I doubt the Lion's would trade for a DT that is due $6 million this season, only to turn around and draft a player at the same position for even more $. It seems more likely that the Lions made this trade in an attempt to "shore-up" the D-line without having to draft Suh.Also, left tackle is considered by most "experts" to be a more important position than DT. Especially, with the huge investments they have in Stafford and Calvin.Suh is probably a better player than Okung, but Okung fits a much greater need for the Lions....but you go ahead and call me names because I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
Well played.I was not under the impression that the opinion Anthony posted was necessarily his own.As for what makes me so confident... I doubt the Lion's would trade for a DT that is due $6 million this season, only to turn around and draft a player at the same position for even more $. It seems more likely that the Lions made this trade in an attempt to "shore-up" the D-line without having to draft Suh.Also, left tackle is considered by most "experts" to be a more important position than DT. Especially, with the huge investments they have in Stafford and Calvin.Suh is probably a better player than Okung, but Okung fits a much greater need for the Lions....but you go ahead and call me names because I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
The Lions coaches were happy with Backus last year. While he isn't great, he is not the problem on the line; the real problem is left guard and it has been for years. They may draft Okung, but if Suh is the top player on their board, he will be drafted. The defensive tackle situation is better with Williams, but it would still be a major weakness if they don't draft Suh. There is little else outside of Sammie Hill inside. Schwarts is also a defensive coach and the defense was the worst in the league for the last 2 years. The Williams trade has little effect on the second overall pick. It has more effect on later picks. As far as the local beat writers go, they know more about the Lions than most, especially Tom Kowalski. He is usually spot on with anything related to the Lions. Bottom line is if Suh is the top player on their board, he will be drafted. Right now Suh is probably the top player on 80% or more of teams' draft boards. Things change fast and there is about 6 weeks or so before the draft, but if the draft was held today, there is little doubt in my mind that they would draft Suh.
Williams' salary has no bearing on whether the Lions draft Suh. They traded for him because DT is their biggest need along with CB. It does not mean they will pass on Suh. Left tackle may be more important, but the new Lions regime drafts best player available unless it is very close. If the Lions think Suh is the better player, he will be pick over Okung regardless of the positions they play.I was not under the impression that the opinion Anthony posted was necessarily his own.As for what makes me so confident... I doubt the Lion's would trade for a DT that is due $6 million this season, only to turn around and draft a player at the same position for even more $. It seems more likely that the Lions made this trade in an attempt to "shore-up" the D-line without having to draft Suh.Also, left tackle is considered by most "experts" to be a more important position than DT. Especially, with the huge investments they have in Stafford and Calvin.Suh is probably a better player than Okung, but Okung fits a much greater need for the Lions....but you go ahead and call me names because I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
I still disagree, but part of the reason may be the dynasty Stafford owner in me praying they pick Okung.
Also... Out of line, are you serious?
HA. You are out of line to be frank. He was disagreeing in a polite and entirely wholesome way."I am the great and powerful OZ. Do not question my wisdom!" Bollocks - as far as I know nobody here is the Lions GM, so therefore everyone here is entitled to an opinion.
Nothing at all, but you have to think they're looking into how much of a drop there is from their top rated OL, to the ones they have a realistic shot at getting in the later rounds?
The Lions used to ignore their board and try to fit a pick instead of taking the best available player. The results of that speak for themselves. If Suh is the best player, he should be the pick.
Please let's keep the discourse civil. Anthony is indeed very knowledgeable about the Lions, but just because someone is relatively new to this board doesn't mean they don't have a legitimate perspective, too. I see nothing out of line in spider321's comments. No need to slam each other, just debate the team's moves and leave it at that.TIA
Its difficult to argue with BPA and Suh does look the part, but getting Stafford some protection should be a very high priority for the Lions it seems.
That's cool. Disagreeing and saying what you feel is right is what makes this board what it is. Civilly disagreeing and discussing is never "out of line". It's what we try to do here.JI still disagree, but part of the reason may be the dynasty Stafford owner in me praying they pick Okung.Also...
"Coach Jim Schwartz did suggest late last month that Backus could kick to left guard if they find a better option on Stafford's blind side."
per http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernew...ilter_teams=DET
No. 10?! Wow.I own Megatron on one of my dynasty teams and other savvy owners have been pounding on me trying to buy low, but he's not going anywhere. Stafford *may* suffer a sophomore slump (I hope not), and I don't think that Burleson is a wonderous WR2, but I think he'll be better than the revolving door of nothing they had last year to help pull a bit of coverage off of Calvin.If both Calvin and Matt stay healthy, I can see 1200/9 for Calvin with a higher ceiling.
I actually assumed you meant redraft, but I thought I would chip in my meager dynasty contribution as well.I cannot think of a list where I would put him at No 10 on my redraft draft board. I'm still shocked at such a low ranking.To each his own.
CJ at around 10 for redraft seems pretty accurate.I would definitely take the following WR's over him:1. Andre Johnson2. Larry Fitzgerald3. Reggie Wayne4. Miles Austin5. Vincent Jackson6. Roddy WhiteAfter that there are a handful of WR's i would maybe/probably take over him:7. Marques Colston8. Desean Jackson(definitely take him over CJ in non-PPR)9. Greg Jennings10. Randy Moss11. Steve Smith12. Sidney RiceI love Calvin in a dyansty league, but i am not taking the risk that goes along with him in a redraft with more "sure things" available.
