Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

[wiscstlatlmia]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."

I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

 

[Eastwood]

I would feel SO bad for Lions fans. They need to keep him, but yes, as a Calvin owner in tons of dynasty leagues, the thoughts of him going somewhere with a better overall team is very appealing.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Imagine if the Pats traded there two firsts this year for him

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

He's got two more years on his deal. It seems a little pointless to speculate now.

 

[CalBear]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

 

[spider321]

Can't teams franchise tag a guy twice now?

If that's the case, he will still be in Detroit at least 2 years after his contract is up.

 

[DLR]

Stafford is well on his way to being the next Pennington.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Can't teams franchise tag a guy twice now?If that's the case, he will still be in Detroit at least 2 years after his contract is up.

We have no idea what will happen to the franchise tag in the upcoming labor negotiations.

 

[BlueBandit24]

I can understand his frustration. However, I do not see him leaving Detroit. The Lions are quickly putting together an excellent talent base and should be vastly improved over the next couple years. Of course, it all comes down to Stafford staying on the field.

From a fantasy perspective, I think Detroit is a pretty good spot moving forward. Again, it comes down to Stafford staying healthy, but if Calvin can build a rapport with his young quarterback, playing at least nine games a year in a dome...that potential is enticing. And it is not as though he has not been productive under poor circumstances either.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."

I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

He's got two more years on his deal. It seems a little pointless to speculate now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=2959620It does say he has two more years...But, I can see this becoming an issue for the lions before two years if he seriousl starts talking about leaving....They literally cant just let this guy walk and get no compensation for him.

 

[PhantomJB]

If he wants to win, he should focus on completing the process.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I can understand his frustration. However, I do not see him leaving Detroit. The Lions are quickly putting together an excellent talent base and should be vastly improved over the next couple years. Of course, it all comes down to Stafford staying on the field. From a fantasy perspective, I think Detroit is a pretty good spot moving forward. Again, it comes down to Stafford staying healthy, but if Calvin can build a rapport with his young quarterback, playing at least nine games a year in a dome...that potential is enticing. And it is not as though he has not been productive under poor circumstances either.

Be that as it may...Would you rather have him there or in San Diego or New England. From what you hear(or dont hear) this guy seems to be everything you look for in a professional athlete (heart,desire,work ethic, ETC) and I do not see any organization worrying about him from a chemistry perspective either. so I really think he could go anywhere. which would put me on another planet of happiness cause i love the guy and want to see him succeed...and win me a few fantasy championships

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

this is just alot of drummed up hype from local blow hards on the radio that talked to Calvin.

He may want to leave but If the CBA donr change he isnt going anywhere ala Barry

 

[FUBAR]

He sounds almost defeated, but I agree with those who say a healthy Stafford, a good draft and free agency, and some more time under Schwartz and the Lions will be in the playoffs. I've been hopeful before (I've been a Lions fan since birth, but no longer live close enough to follow as locals do) but they seem to be making good improvement this year.

 

[Da Guru]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

It is not the QB spot. The offense has scored enough to be a 500 team or better. The D can`t stop anyone.

 

[DoubleG]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

FYP.Seriously though - it's the defense. The Lions offense seems to be doing fairly well.

 

[Sweet Love]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

It is not the QB spot. The offense has scored enough to be a 500 team or better. The D can`t stop anyone.

Very true. Regardless of record their is a world of difference between the Lions and Buffalo versus a team like Carolina. It is evident the former two can put up enough offense in a given game to "be in it"; the defenses are what make them lose. A team like carolina can't score and can't stop anyone and that is a disasterous combo...and basically where the Lions were 18 months ago.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

It is not the QB spot. The offense has scored enough to be a 500 team or better. The D can`t stop anyone.

Very true. Regardless of record their is a world of difference between the Lions and Buffalo versus a team like Carolina. It is evident the former two can put up enough offense in a given game to "be in it"; the defenses are what make them lose. A team like carolina can't score and can't stop anyone and that is a disasterous combo...and basically where the Lions were 18 months ago.

and have been for the last 20 years...

 

[CalBear]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

FYP.Seriously though - it's the defense. The Lions offense seems to be doing fairly well.

The defense has improved significantly. Last year they were #32 in both points against and yardage against; now they're #25 and #21, and they've generated more turnovers and sacks, too. Suh is going to be huge.

 

[gotmooch]

This is not speculation, this is fact. If the Lions continue to suck ###, Calvin will leave. He is putting it out there now so that the fans won't be surprised when he decides it is time to advance his career. I know he appreciates his fans, but he only has 2 choices: remain loyal to an organization that has not progressed in decades or make every attempt to do what every other player in the league wants to do: WIN A SUPER BOWL

Look at Raiola. That guy is going to snap one day because he should have left years ago and views himself as a loser because of it. However, he will always be viewed as a loyal Detroit Lion. Then there is Jason Hanson. Something tells me he may be kind of happy to finally have a good reason to retire, yet he will also be viewed as a loyal player. Honestly, I don't think the Lion's woes can be attributed to the players. Think about it, they all come from the same player pool in the beginning and they transform once they reach the organization. Something in the organization is subconsciously teaching them how to execute a false start on the first play of every drive. When this happens, the players don't feel as bad about their stupidity because the guy next to him did the same thing on the previous drive (or play). When they go back to practice, the coach has so many things in his head to spaz out about that it is impossible to focus on one (or a few) mistakes. This creates a lack of focus for the coach and insanity for the players.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

Tip to prevent insanity: If you are a Lions fan, don't watch the 4th quarter of any Lions game. It will add years to your life.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."

I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

He's got two more years on his deal. It seems a little pointless to speculate now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=2959620It does say he has two more years...But, I can see this becoming an issue for the lions before two years if he seriousl starts talking about leaving....They literally cant just let this guy walk and get no compensation for him.

I guess my point was about not being able to predict where a good spot would be very far into the future. For example at this time last year if I had suggested the Rams or Bucs would be a great destination I would have been ridiculed. On the other hand someone that suggested the Vikings or the Cardinals probably would have gotten a lot of agreement.

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

Who wouldn't want to leave Detroit?

 

[Da Guru]

This is not speculation, this is fact. If the Lions continue to suck ###, Calvin will leave. He is putting it out there now so that the fans won't be surprised when he decides it is time to advance his career. I know he appreciates his fans, but he only has 2 choices: remain loyal to an organization that has not progressed in decades or make every attempt to do what every other player in the league wants to do: WIN A SUPER BOWL

Look at Raiola. That guy is going to snap one day because he should have left years ago and views himself as a loser because of it. However, he will always be viewed as a loyal Detroit Lion. Then there is Jason Hanson. Something tells me he may be kind of happy to finally have a good reason to retire, yet he will also be viewed as a loyal player. Honestly, I don't think the Lion's woes can be attributed to the players. Think about it, they all come from the same player pool in the beginning and they transform once they reach the organization. Something in the organization is subconsciously teaching them how to execute a false start on the first play of every drive. When this happens, the players don't feel as bad about their stupidity because the guy next to him did the same thing on the previous drive (or play). When they go back to practice, the coach has so many things in his head to spaz out about that it is impossible to focus on one (or a few) mistakes. This creates a lack of focus for the coach and insanity for the players.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

Tip to prevent insanity: If you are a Lions fan, don't watch the 4th quarter of any Lions game. It will add years to your life.

Raiola would have never lasted this long with any other NFL team. That is part of the problem.

Also I would not franchise CJ if he wants out. We have not won with him and this team need players in the worst way. If they could land three high draft picks I would do it rather than keep an unhappy WR.

 

[DoubleG]

If Stafford can stay healthy, the Lions will not have a losing record in 2011.

FYP.Seriously though - it's the defense. The Lions offense seems to be doing fairly well.

The defense has improved significantly. Last year they were #32 in both points against and yardage against; now they're #25 and #21, and they've generated more turnovers and sacks, too. Suh is going to be huge.

Oh, I agree - with Suh and with the improvement. But reread what you just typed. They improved from DEAD LAST to "somewhere still near the bottom of the pile...just above " (I summarize). Notice, I said the offense was doing "fairly well" - not "top 10" or "playing phenomenally" - they are a middle of the road, decent NFL offense. The point being that a middle-of-the-road offense coupled with an improving, but still near the bottom of the league defense is going to yield you about 3-6 wins a season... which is about what they are on pace for. Until the defense at least makes it into the top 20 (i.e. stays out of the bottom 3rd) - or the offense gets better, they are going to struggle to have a winning season...unless they can move to the NFC West - then the Lions would be in the playoffs.

 

[Steed]

He's laying the groundwork so the fans won't turn on him like Favre and LeBron.

Imagine what he could do on any othe rteam but the Lions.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Wow, imagine how fun they will be without that guy. Seriously, at what point can I pick another team to root for.

 

[inca911]

Seriously, at what point can I pick another team to root for.

You can pick another team today....

 

[bulger2holt]

If the Lions draft Patrick Peterson in rd 1, and TBA defender in rd 2, they will be a 10 win team next year. They aren't that far off. This is also assuming Stafford plays all 16 games.

 

[Da Guru]

If the Lions draft Patrick Peterson in rd 1, and TBA defender in rd 2, they will be a 10 win team next year. They aren't that far off. This is also assuming Stafford plays all 16 games.

Really can`t count on Stafford, if he plays every game that would be a bonus. Plus we have no idea how good or bad Stafford really is. Stafford was not that great last year on was on a record pace for INTs, and he has only played in two and a quarter games this year. So Stafford may start his third year still with rookie growing pains.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We've seen other WRs misbehave to get traded. Calvin doesn't see like the type but if he wants out he can make it happen. AJ isn't the GM here last time I checked. It's Detroit, they'll trade him if he asks nicely.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."

I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

He's got two more years on his deal. It seems a little pointless to speculate now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=2959620It does say he has two more years...But, I can see this becoming an issue for the lions before two years if he seriousl starts talking about leaving....They literally cant just let this guy walk and get no compensation for him.

I guess my point was about not being able to predict where a good spot would be very far into the future. For example at this time last year if I had suggested the Rams or Bucs would be a great destination I would have been ridiculed. On the other hand someone that suggested the Vikings or the Cardinals probably would have gotten a lot of agreement.

I disagree completely. Everyone knew farve and warner were on there way out so and people were already downing fitz for it last year... what you said about the Bucs and the Rams...is that predraft or post? cause if it was post even with the rams being horrible...people would like the calvin-bradford combo.

 

[Bri]

well I didn't expect him to say he loves losing

 

[ppierce]

I'm surprised it took Mega this long. The guy deserves better.

 

[footballnerd]

He's laying the groundwork so the fans won't turn on him like Favre and LeBron. for a trade.

 

[K8!]

The Lions have a direction, finally. Another solid draft with an impact defender and watch Suh and he feed off of each other. This team has turned it around already. Injuries and some flukes have kept the record down, but they are definately headed in the right direction after wondering in the wilderness longer than Moses.

 

[Dizzy]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson hinted during a radio interview that he may look to leave following his rookie contract if the organization does not start winning games, according to Dave Birkett, of the Detroit Free Press. "Put it like this, if we turn this thing into a winner, I'm happy," Johnson said. "I've won 11 games since I've been here in four years. Losing definitely sucks, and you definitely don't want to be around losing. You can't get used to that. I can't get used to it because I haven't come from that. I've been used to winning. And if this thing can't get turned around, man, like I said - I'm just going to leave it at I can't get used to it. I want to win."

I dont know about anyone else...But I'm drooling at the possibility of this happening...If he leaves where do you think he goes and what type of stats do you think he puts up there?

This would bother any athlete worth his salt. 11 wins in 4 years? It's shocking to even read, I couldn't imagine living it.Stafford's health worries me... I don't blame any professional athlete for pursuing a championship, and if the 2-3 wins/year continue I would expect Calvin to pack his bags.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I guess my point was about not being able to predict where a good spot would be very far into the future. For example at this time last year if I had suggested the Rams or Bucs would be a great destination I would have been ridiculed. On the other hand someone that suggested the Vikings or the Cardinals probably would have gotten a lot of agreement.

I disagree completely. Everyone knew farve and warner were on there way out so and people were already downing fitz for it last year... what you said about the Bucs and the Rams...is that predraft or post? cause if it was post even with the rams being horrible...people would like the calvin-bradford combo.

I don't want to get into too big of an argument about this, but I did say "this time last year". Also I don't know that most people would have assumed that Calvin-Bradford would have automatically been better than Calvin-Stafford or the Rams would get back to winning faster than the Lions. The Vikes might have been a bad example, but as for the Cards my memory is that people mostly still expected Fitzgerald to produce with Leinart.

 

[PhantomJB]

Calvin softens comments a tad...

http://www.freep.com/article/20101210/SPOR...right-direction

 

[SproutDaddy]

Imagine if the Pats traded there two firsts this year for him

As an owner, no thanks. One of the last places I'd like to see him.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Imagine if the Pats traded there two firsts this year for him

As an owner, no thanks. One of the last places I'd like to see him.

really?...explain

 

[tdhartis]

Pats spread the ball around a lot like the Saints, that's maybe why he would prefer he went elsewhere to a situation like Roddy White's. A QB who throws it up to the #1 15-20 times a game without fail.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Pats spread the ball around a lot like the Saints, that's maybe why he would prefer he went elsewhere to a situation like Roddy White's. A QB who throws it up to the #1 15-20 times a game without fail.

that is true but, I feel think they would just do what they did when moss came. Although they are having so much success now maybe they dont want a legit no1 wr anymore

 

[FUBAR]

Wow, imagine how fun they will be without that guy. Seriously, at what point can I pick another team to root for.

the rule is you have to move first.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If the Lions draft Patrick Peterson in rd 1, and TBA defender in rd 2, they will be a 10 win team next year. They aren't that far off. This is also assuming Stafford plays all 16 games.

Really can`t count on Stafford, if he plays every game that would be a bonus. Plus we have no idea how good or bad Stafford really is. Stafford was not that great last year on was on a record pace for INTs, and he has only played in two and a quarter games this year. So Stafford may start his third year still with rookie growing pains.

We do know how good Stafford is, and he's very good. If he stays healthy and they have another good draft/ free agency they'll make a run at the playoffs.

 

[DoubleG]

Wow, imagine how fun they will be without that guy. Seriously, at what point can I pick another team to root for.

the rule is you have to move first.

Actually I beleive he can switch and root for a team that hails from a place he lived in prior to rooting for Detroit. For example if you were born in Clevland, and lived there until age 7, you could swap to rooting for the Browns...on 2nd thought, if that's the case stick with the Lions.

 

[SieteCinco]

I know the record doesn't show it but the Lions really aren't a bad team. They have made a few mistakes that ended up costing them games, but take those away and you would be left with a team in contention right now in my opinion.

They have only won a total of two games this year, but look at how many they should have won:

Week 1: The Calvin Johnson "not a catch" for a TD. They would have beat Chicago, if that hadn't been over turned. That was a TD.

Week 2: Didn't catch the whole game, but lost to the Eagles 32-35 with their back up QB.

Week 4: Was on a flight to Europe so only caught part of the game on a layover, but lost to GB 26-28 so it was close.

Week 5: Lit a solid Rams team up 44-6

Week 6: Lost to NYG 28-20

Week 8: Stafford comes back and has a great game with 4 passing TDs and 1 rushing, leading his team to a 37-25 win over WAS.

Week 9: I think this was another game they should have won against the Jets (23-20) Stafford was moving the ball well until he got hurt, and the game would have never even gone into overtime if Suh didn't miss the XP after Hanson got hurt.

Week 10: Lost to BUF 12-10. Can't remember what went on here.

Week 13: Lost to Chicago 24-20, but was a close game with their third string QB.

Looking back on everything, there are six games I saw they should have, or could have won, which would have them sitting 8-4 right now. If that were the case, I think 11-4 would have been very possible with their remaining schedule against GB/TB/MIA/MIN. But could have, would have, should have. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades, right?

Their offense isn't the problem, they can compete and will only be even better with a healthy Stafford and Best. Suh has been a beast on defense, Kyle Vanden Bosch is solid, and talented guys like Louis Delmas at Safety, LB Levy, DE Cliff Avril, and CB Spievey. This is a young team, so mistakes will be made but they will learn from them. I think if they have another good draft and load up the O/D lines, get another CB and then LB they will be solid. All the skill positions are accounted for - you have arguably the best WR in the game who is still young, a RB who is one of the biggest home run threats in the league and was killing it before getting turf toes, a talented QB, one of the best returners in the league with Logan, Burelson isn't bad, and Pettigrew has been good this year although Scheffler has been quiet.

Its obvious this team has improved greatly, and should only continue to get better if they have another good draft and stay healthy. They are my sleeper pick for a playoff spot next year!

 

[FUBAR]

Wow, imagine how fun they will be without that guy. Seriously, at what point can I pick another team to root for.

the rule is you have to move first.

Actually I beleive he can switch and root for a team that hails from a place he lived in prior to rooting for Detroit. For example if you were born in Clevland, and lived there until age 7, you could swap to rooting for the Browns...on 2nd thought, if that's the case stick with the Lions.

You have to petition the board in order to switch back and the statue of limitations is 3 years. If you were born in Cleveland and moved to Detroit, you're just ####ed. Unless you're a hockey fan, then you're good to go.

 

[Adebisi]

Is this seriously news? Every last player on the Lions thinks about leaving that organization when their contracts are up. It's naive to think otherwise. Who wants to waste his career playing for a loser? The same goes for Buffalo, and probably Carolina, Cincy, and Cleveland as well.

 

[omally]

Is this seriously news? Every last player on the Lions thinks about leaving that organization when their contracts are up. It's naive to think otherwise. Who wants to waste his career playing for a loser? The same goes for Buffalo, and probably Carolina, Cincy, and Cleveland as well.

Carolina? Most players enjoy playing there. Did you forget they played your team in the Super Bowl, and have been to the playoffs two more times since then? They are having a bad year, but they aren't perpetual losers.

 

[SWC]

if he leaves i hope he does a walkabout to the Packers and becomes a part of a dominating offensive juggernaut like the Australian swimming team