Can any of you see Miami beating Arizona? (1 Viewer)

[JSH21]

I'm in a suicide poll that was already cut down to 50 people after the SD and INDY losses. Chance to win 5 grand.

Right now I'm looking at these 2 teams to use...

Arizona at home against Miami

Giants away at St. Louis

I'd love to hold off on NY and use them next week when they play Cinci at home. So does everyone think Arizona will without a doubt beat Miami at home? Chad looked half decent in his debut, and they do have 2 talented backs that could do some damage if they get that running game going. Arizona did let up like what 80 some yards to Gore in the 1st half last week. I would really like to use Arizona this week and hold off on NYG, but am having some 2nd thoughts.

Any opinions would be appreciated.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I'm using AZ in my survivor pool this week, as well. They're playing at home and they're healthy. The Dolphins will be a tougher foe as the season progresses, but Week 2 is too early for Parcells' team to completely gel.

 

[Jayrod]

I'm going with Arizona in my pool as well......but mine is free.

My primary reason (besides the Cards being favored and at home and the Phins having a bad team) is that Miami has to travel accross the country to play this game. Look at what happened to Seattle last week in Buffalo.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I'm in a suicide poll that was already cut down to 50 people after the SD and INDY losses. Chance to win 5 grand.Right now I'm looking at these 2 teams to use...Arizona at home against MiamiGiants away at St. LouisI'd love to hold off on NY and use them next week when they play Cinci at home. So does everyone think Arizona will without a doubt beat Miami at home? Chad looked half decent in his debut, and they do have 2 talented backs that could do some damage if they get that running game going. Arizona did let up like what 80 some yards to Gore in the 1st half last week. I would really like to use Arizona this week and hold off on NYG, but am having some 2nd thoughts.Any opinions would be appreciated.

Miami will surprise some teams this season, and Arizona is certainly a winnable game for them. They will not go 1-15 again. May win 5-6 games. No chance I take the Cardinals this week with the Giants being as close to a sure thing as there will be in a survivor pool.

 

[Jayrod]

I'm in a suicide poll that was already cut down to 50 people after the SD and INDY losses. Chance to win 5 grand.Right now I'm looking at these 2 teams to use...Arizona at home against MiamiGiants away at St. LouisI'd love to hold off on NY and use them next week when they play Cinci at home. So does everyone think Arizona will without a doubt beat Miami at home? Chad looked half decent in his debut, and they do have 2 talented backs that could do some damage if they get that running game going. Arizona did let up like what 80 some yards to Gore in the 1st half last week. I would really like to use Arizona this week and hold off on NYG, but am having some 2nd thoughts.Any opinions would be appreciated.

Miami will surprise some teams this season, and Arizona is certainly a winnable game for them. They will not go 1-15 again. May win 5-6 games. No chance I take the Cardinals this week with the Giants being as close to a sure thing as there will be in a survivor pool.

I avoid picking road teams like the plague in survivor pool, especially early in the year when teams are still finding their identities. Maybe Washington was worse than everyone thought and Philly was better. Too early to tell, so I try avoid road teams until the bye weeks.

 

[MAC_32]

Other than the 'Any Given Sunday' theory? No. Arizona has Miami outmanned at every position on the field outside of maybe the oline, I think AZ's line will be improved this season but it is still early.

 

[Raider Nation]

I have two spots in a $7,000 pool. Took Arizona in one, Tampa in the other.

 

[Todem]

I would go with NY if you put a gun to my head.

So being a suicide pool that should tell you something. And ask yourself that question. LOL.

 

[travdogg]

I'd go with the Giants, they are the much safer bet, and there are plenty of good matchups next week that could very well be better than Giants/Cincy.

 

[Garts]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

 

[thriftyrocker]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

 

[tomarken]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

And it's at KC. This is the shark move.

 

[Raider Nation]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

And it's at KC. This is the shark move.

Not really. I'm not implying the Chiefs won't win, but in a suicide pool it's poor strategy to back a bad team simply because they are playing another bad team. Oakland was brutally awful last year also, but one of their wins was IN Arrowhead.

 

[Hobbes]

I like home teams unless it is a landslide mismatch. I went with TB this week...they don't lose much at home and Atlanta is not very good.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

And it's at KC. This is the shark move.

Not really. I'm not implying the Chiefs won't win, but in a suicide pool it's poor strategy to back a bad team simply because they are playing another bad team. Oakland was brutally awful last year also, but one of their wins was IN Arrowhead.

Week after the LJ injury. Sure it is a gamble but so is Arizona. And don't forget Arizona plays St Louis twice this year.If you're looking to reduce risk, I would consider NO.

 

[tombonneau]

I usually do very well in suicide pools. My simple rule is don't get cute in the early weeks and try to save teams for later in the year. Usually, there is no "later in the year" when you get cute, because Miami beats Arizona. Take the sure thing.

I took Gmen this week and won't look back. Rams are the worst team in the league.

The person with the gun-to-the-head analogy was spot on: if your life depended on it, would you feel better knowing you were counting on the Giants or the Cardinals?

 

[Raider Nation]

I usually do very well in suicide pools. My simple rule is don't get cute in the early weeks and try to save teams for later in the year. Usually, there is no "later in the year" when you get cute, because Miami beats Arizona. Take the sure thing.I took Gmen this week and won't look back. Rams are the worst team in the league. The person with the gun-to-the-head analogy was spot on: if your life depended on it, would you feel better knowing you were counting on the Giants or the Cardinals?

I didn't take the Cardinals just because Miami is bad. I took them because I think they are good, and will win the NFC West.Pendergast's defense will swarm Pennington all day, and Warner will be able to have coffee and a sandwich while choosing a receiver.

 

[tombonneau]

I usually do very well in suicide pools. My simple rule is don't get cute in the early weeks and try to save teams for later in the year. Usually, there is no "later in the year" when you get cute, because Miami beats Arizona. Take the sure thing.I took Gmen this week and won't look back. Rams are the worst team in the league. The person with the gun-to-the-head analogy was spot on: if your life depended on it, would you feel better knowing you were counting on the Giants or the Cardinals?

I didn't take the Cardinals just because Miami is bad. I took them because I think they are good, and will win the NFC West.Pendergast's defense will swarm Pennington all day, and Warner will be able to have coffee and a sandwich while choosing a receiver.

Just saying I could see Miami gutting out a 17-14 win in the desert before I could fathom the Rams beating the Giants. The Cards have a decent team, but so does Miami. Think that's a close game.

 

[valhallan]

I could see Miami winning simply because Warner can still be a turnover machine. That's often the key to a road dog pulling off the upset.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm in a suicide poll that was already cut down to 50 people after the SD and INDY losses. Chance to win 5 grand.Right now I'm looking at these 2 teams to use...Arizona at home against MiamiGiants away at St. LouisI'd love to hold off on NY and use them next week when they play Cinci at home. So does everyone think Arizona will without a doubt beat Miami at home? Chad looked half decent in his debut, and they do have 2 talented backs that could do some damage if they get that running game going. Arizona did let up like what 80 some yards to Gore in the 1st half last week. I would really like to use Arizona this week and hold off on NYG, but am having some 2nd thoughts.Any opinions would be appreciated.

Miami will surprise some teams this season, and Arizona is certainly a winnable game for them. They will not go 1-15 again. May win 5-6 games. No chance I take the Cardinals this week with the Giants being as close to a sure thing as there will be in a survivor pool.

I avoid picking road teams like the plague in survivor pool, especially early in the year when teams are still finding their identities. Maybe Washington was worse than everyone thought and Philly was better. Too early to tell, so I try avoid road teams until the bye weeks.

Giants have won 11 road games in a row. I guess you can look at it as they are due for a loss, but St. Louis was dominated at both lines of scrimmage last week and the Giants are strong at each line.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Nobody likes Seattle? They're at home, and they were tied for the biggest favorite of Week 2 (with the Giants, who are on the road) when the lines came out.

Or is the thinking that you want to save Seattle for later in the season, when they get some healthy bodies at WR? I guess it depends on how big the suicide pool is.

 

[hoochiemama]

I think the key for this early is too keep it simple and not over think. NYG seems like the best team against the worst STL. I am not touching SEA until I see something positive from them.

 

[Buckfast]

I feel like this is a very tough week for Survivor pools. Practically every favored team is on the road. I went with the NY Giants. I certainly think that Miami could win that game. I didn't want to use the Giants this early, but with the lack of clear choices this week, I think they are one of the few solid bets.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

This is my pick this week. It is early enough that I am not sure about a lot of teams, but I am confident that Oakland suuuuuucks.

 

[gregjcross]

I like home teams unless it is a landslide mismatch. I went with TB this week...they don't lose much at home and Atlanta is not very good.

Have to agree on this, Tampa is gonna play in the heat with their defense.

 

[renesauz]

Nobody likes Seattle? They're at home, and they were tied for the biggest favorite of Week 2 (with the Giants, who are on the road) when the lines came out.Or is the thinking that you want to save Seattle for later in the season, when they get some healthy bodies at WR? I guess it depends on how big the suicide pool is.

Seattle stinks this year dude, and has more injuries then I can count. This is an unusually tough week, made worse because several "good" teams lost or looked bad last week, while several "bad" teams looked MUCH improved. Every year several previously good teams go bad, and vice versa, making this a tough time of year. With that said...early on, you have to go with whatever YOU believe is a sure thing...it's foolishness to try to "save the good teams" for a stretch run you may never see. At this point, there are only 4-5 teams we KNOW are good, and only one or two we KNOW are bad. FWIW...I think Miami has a good chance to knock off Zona in the desert. While I'm not sold on the G-men being a dominant team this year, I am pretty sure that the Rams will secure a top five pick.

 

[awesomeness]

Arizona isn't a team to be trusted imo. They're one of those teams that can beat the Cowboys one week, and then lose to the 49ers the week after and it wouldnt surprise me in the least.

They were 6-2 at home last year, though their 2 losses at home last year were against teams that were each below .500 on the season.

The Cards are one of those teams that play to their opponents level. They play tough against good teams, and play uninspired against weak teams. Hence i will try as hard as possible to stay away from them in these survivor type pools.

 

[valhallan]

As others have said, I hate picking road teams. Even though the Giants look like a wise pick, I just can't do it.

I have a feeling on Carolina. That Sunday night game seemed to be more about Indy being rusty and missing key players than Chicago suddenly being a contender. I think the Panthers win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball this Sunday and send the Bears home from their two game road trip a respectable 1-1.

 

[Otis]

I love KC and AZ this week

 

[Andy Herron]

I'm in a suicide poll that was already cut down to 50 people after the SD and INDY losses. Chance to win 5 grand.Right now I'm looking at these 2 teams to use...Arizona at home against MiamiGiants away at St. LouisI'd love to hold off on NY and use them next week when they play Cinci at home. So does everyone think Arizona will without a doubt beat Miami at home? Chad looked half decent in his debut, and they do have 2 talented backs that could do some damage if they get that running game going. Arizona did let up like what 80 some yards to Gore in the 1st half last week. I would really like to use Arizona this week and hold off on NYG, but am having some 2nd thoughts.Any opinions would be appreciated.

You already said it, it's a suicide poll. Your (eligibility) life is hanging in the balance. Take the Giants and live to see another week.Arizona may not get you to next week, therefore saving the Giants for next week gets you nothing.Buffalo looks like a good pick next week as it is, why save the Giants?

 

[FairWarning]

I took the Jets to beat NE. We pick the loser not the winner. Big rivalry here and I'll roll dice with Favre vs Cassel.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

This game scares me. When was the last time the Cards went 2-0 to start the season? The Cards are the better team, but I dont trust them. I took the Bucs in my pool.

 

[PatrickT]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

And it's at KC. This is the shark move.

Not really. I'm not implying the Chiefs won't win, but in a suicide pool it's poor strategy to back a bad team simply because they are playing another bad team. Oakland was brutally awful last year also, but one of their wins was IN Arrowhead.

I avoid Divisional matchups if I can, ANYTHING can, and will, happen in divisional games.

 

[PatrickT]

Oh, and if you're looking for a week 3 pick, there's Oak at Buffalo.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Nobody likes Seattle? They're at home, and they were tied for the biggest favorite of Week 2 (with the Giants, who are on the road) when the lines came out.Or is the thinking that you want to save Seattle for later in the season, when they get some healthy bodies at WR? I guess it depends on how big the suicide pool is.

I am not sold on Seattle. I would not be surprised if they are a bad team this year.

 

[Dragon1952]

I would say there's probably a 75-80% chance that Arizona wins the game SU. Anything can happen though.

 

[WisWolvrns]

I would say go with Arizona.

The only fears is the young Miami team, being under less home crowd stress to win, plays a better game, but I think Arizona is the better talented team at the moment and should still win.

I would stay away from the Giants... St. Louis was embarrassed week 1 and are coming home to start new. The Giants didn't close out a very very poor Washington team... kept it too close all game long... and that was at home, with the opening day hype and emotion...

I also stay away from picking any teams who are playing division rivals. There are always upsets with those due to the teams being more familiar with each other and more energy flowing in those games. Especially when the underdogs always seem to come in with a chip on their shoulder to try and knock off the better team. It happens each week practically, so picking a divisional game is like russian roulette!

Overall, it is a tough looking week...

As for TB... isn't Griese getting the start... oh boy...

*disclaimer: If 'Zona loses... I take no responsibility... :(

 

[gianmarco]

I usually do very well in suicide pools. My simple rule is don't get cute in the early weeks and try to save teams for later in the year. Usually, there is no "later in the year" when you get cute, because Miami beats Arizona. Take the sure thing.

I took Gmen this week and won't look back. Rams are the worst team in the league.

The person with the gun-to-the-head analogy was spot on: if your life depended on it, would you feel better knowing you were counting on the Giants or the Cardinals?

Great advice here. It only takes 1 week of getting cute to get bumped. You already have half the people out. I've seen survivor leagues only last 9-10 weeks. There are easily enough good teams and matchups to use. Honestly, go check vegas lines and you should be choosing from games that have the largest spread.Now, I know that Arizona has a pretty large spread, but that's one I'd be VERY wary of. The Giants are a good pick this week. By weeks 4-5, you'll start to see which teams are downright horrible and you'll be able to sneak a couple mediocre teams that have great matchups.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

I can't believe how many are so sure on ARI and/or the NYG.

ARI has been below .500 for 9 straight seasons. While they do have an explosive offense you can't pin your hopes and dreams on that sort of sub-mediocrity They're just good enough to pull upsets themselves and just bad enough to allow the Parcell's run MIA Dolphins to upset them at home - this game has trap all over it I'm not saying that MIA will win this game but it is far from a 'given'

The NYG scraped by against the Skins who are in a big time transitional year, learning a complicated offense - they are missing two pro-bowl DEs and have only Burress in the passing game. STL has Steven Jackson, Randy McMichael (with Saunders calling the plays), Tory Holt and Marc Bulger - these are offensive weapons that can explode on any given Sunday and Holt/Bulger alone tend to play their best at home. Again, while I'm not saying the Giants will lose, being on the road and coming of an emotional SB season, the NYGs could easily get beat here.

To me, CAR is the play this week. CAR is a favored team playing at home against the lamest offense over the last decade. CAR is always a good team under Fox and you just get the feeling they get back in the hunt this year. With a mauling offensive line and a strong running game, they will be able to control the clock. And trust me, I'm a Bears homer and despite his success against SF in week 3 of the pre-season and last week against IND, Kyle Orton is nothing more than a game manager with NO consistent offensive weapon. CHI overachieved on the road last week against IND but not again this week in CAR.

After scouring this thread, it seemed the top three givens are: KC over OAK, NYG over STL & ARI over MIA. I guarantee one of those three teams gets upset. Go against the grain and select CAR this week - thank me on Monday.

 

[Raider Nation]

I can't believe how many are so sure on ARI and/or the NYG.

ARI has been below .500 for 9 straight seasons. While they do have an explosive offense you can't pin your hopes and dreams on that sort of sub-mediocrity They're just good enough to pull upsets themselves and just bad enough to allow the Parcell's run MIA Dolphins to upset them at home - this game has trap all over it I'm not saying that MIA will win this game but it is far from a 'given'

The NYG scraped by against the Skins who are in a big time transitional year, learning a complicated offense - they are missing two pro-bowl DEs and have only Burress in the passing game. STL has Steven Jackson, Randy McMichael (with Saunders calling the plays), Tory Holt and Marc Bulger - these are offensive weapons that can explode on any given Sunday and Holt/Bulger alone tend to play their best at home. Again, while I'm not saying the Giants will lose, being on the road and coming of an emotional SB season, the NYGs could easily get beat here.

To me, CAR is the play this week. CAR is a favored team playing at home against the lamest offense over the last decade. CAR is always a good team under Fox and you just get the feeling they get back in the hunt this year. With a mauling offensive line and a strong running game, they will be able to control the clock. And trust me, I'm a Bears homer and despite his success against SF in week 3 of the pre-season and last week against IND, Kyle Orton is nothing more than a game manager with NO consistent offensive weapon. CHI overachieved on the road last week against IND but not again this week in CAR.

After scouring this thread, it seemed the top three givens are: KC over OAK, NYG over STL & ARI over MIA. I guarantee one of those three teams gets upset. Go against the grain and select CAR this week - thank me on Monday.

God, I hope you're right about the Giants. 69 of the remaining 185 people in my pool have them this week! Another 27 have Seattle, and they EASILY could lose unless they completely shut down the Niners... as they usually do.

 

[valhallan]

To me, CAR is the play this week. CAR is a favored team playing at home against the lamest offense over the last decade. CAR is always a good team under Fox and you just get the feeling they get back in the hunt this year. With a mauling offensive line and a strong running game, they will be able to control the clock. And trust me, I'm a Bears homer and despite his success against SF in week 3 of the pre-season and last week against IND, Kyle Orton is nothing more than a game manager with NO consistent offensive weapon. CHI overachieved on the road last week against IND but not again this week in CAR.

After scouring this thread, it seemed the top three givens are: KC over OAK, NYG over STL & ARI over MIA. I guarantee one of those three teams gets upset. Go against the grain and select CAR this week - thank me on Monday.

Hey, I said Carolina first! Great minds think alike

 

[Dragon1952]

I can't believe how many are so sure on ARI and/or the NYG.

ARI has been below .500 for 9 straight seasons. While they do have an explosive offense you can't pin your hopes and dreams on that sort of sub-mediocrity They're just good enough to pull upsets themselves and just bad enough to allow the Parcell's run MIA Dolphins to upset them at home - this game has trap all over it I'm not saying that MIA will win this game but it is far from a 'given'

The NYG scraped by against the Skins who are in a big time transitional year, learning a complicated offense - they are missing two pro-bowl DEs and have only Burress in the passing game. STL has Steven Jackson, Randy McMichael (with Saunders calling the plays), Tory Holt and Marc Bulger - these are offensive weapons that can explode on any given Sunday and Holt/Bulger alone tend to play their best at home. Again, while I'm not saying the Giants will lose, being on the road and coming of an emotional SB season, the NYGs could easily get beat here.

To me, CAR is the play this week. CAR is a favored team playing at home against the lamest offense over the last decade. CAR is always a good team under Fox and you just get the feeling they get back in the hunt this year. With a mauling offensive line and a strong running game, they will be able to control the clock. And trust me, I'm a Bears homer and despite his success against SF in week 3 of the pre-season and last week against IND, Kyle Orton is nothing more than a game manager with NO consistent offensive weapon. CHI overachieved on the road last week against IND but not again this week in CAR.

After scouring this thread, it seemed the top three givens are: KC over OAK, NYG over STL & ARI over MIA. I guarantee one of those three teams gets upset. Go against the grain and select CAR this week - thank me on Monday.

Arizona and NYG will win, so I guess that means KC loses....no big surprise

 

[nzranger]

I usually do very well in suicide pools. My simple rule is don't get cute in the early weeks and try to save teams for later in the year. Usually, there is no "later in the year" when you get cute, because Miami beats Arizona. Take the sure thing.

I took Gmen this week and won't look back. Rams are the worst team in the league.

The person with the gun-to-the-head analogy was spot on: if your life depended on it, would you feel better knowing you were counting on the Giants or the Cardinals?

Great advice here. It only takes 1 week of getting cute to get bumped. You already have half the people out. I've seen survivor leagues only last 9-10 weeks. There are easily enough good teams and matchups to use. Honestly, go check vegas lines and you should be choosing from games that have the largest spread.Now, I know that Arizona has a pretty large spread, but that's one I'd be VERY wary of. The Giants are a good pick this week. By weeks 4-5, you'll start to see which teams are downright horrible and you'll be able to sneak a couple mediocre teams that have great matchups.

Great advice, something I need to follow more myself. I got cute in week 1, with Cincy. Figured BAL was the only team they were SURE to beat with Flacco. Hence I am now dead.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

To me, CAR is the play this week. CAR is a favored team playing at home against the lamest offense over the last decade. CAR is always a good team under Fox and you just get the feeling they get back in the hunt this year. With a mauling offensive line and a strong running game, they will be able to control the clock. And trust me, I'm a Bears homer and despite his success against SF in week 3 of the pre-season and last week against IND, Kyle Orton is nothing more than a game manager with NO consistent offensive weapon. CHI overachieved on the road last week against IND but not again this week in CAR.

After scouring this thread, it seemed the top three givens are: KC over OAK, NYG over STL & ARI over MIA. I guarantee one of those three teams gets upset. Go against the grain and select CAR this week - thank me on Monday.

Hey, I said Carolina first! Great minds think alike

 

[Raider Nation]

Gun to head pick.....Chiefs baby

Yeah, this may be the only week you can use the Chiefs. Huard is starting, everyone is healthy, Oakland is terrible. Good times.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Didn't see an official thread, but I'll just let Matt Leinart fans know that he ain't gonna be starting for a while