Can Danario Alexander help us win playoff games? (1 Viewer)

[brtdud7]

just dropped bernard scott (lol held onto him all year) for him. now i'll have to debate between collie, meachem, james jones, kevin boss (if gates plays), or him

 

[TWP]

DA over Santana Moss for me

 

[Sir Chadwick]

DA over Floyd here.

 

[SieteCinco]

DA over Bowe for me.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

this thread is long on speculation, and light on substance (save the 20 snaps nugget).

Here's what we know:1. Alexander has played three games and in two of them he's done very well. He scored a TD in his first game and missed a TD in his third by about one inch. 2. He is the No. 4 WR for all intents and purposes. Gibson and Robinson are the starters and Amendola is the slot WR. 3. He is on a limited snap count which is likely to continue. 4. Despite being the No. 4 WR, he is the team's deep threat. He not only leads the team in YPC, but he averages nine more yards per catch than the No. 2 WR on the team (Robinson). 5. This week's opponent, Arizona, ranks 25th in the NFL in pass defense. In last week's game, they were beaten for a long touchdown by a quarterback who in my opinion lacks average talent but who I think nearly every one would agree is not as talented as Sam Bradford.Is Alexander a risky starting option? Absolutely. Any time you plug in a reserve WR you're taking some form of a risk because by the nature of their position they will be on the field less which reduces their opportunities to make an impact. I fully acknowledge the risk involved with Alexander this week. However, I think this matchup is unbelievably easy. I also think Bradford is a very talented QB and Alexander's return to the lineup gives the Rams more of an opportunity to take shots downfield than they had before. And given Bradford's talent, I believe the Rams will take those shots. Considering the Cardinals lack talent defensively, I believe there is a high probability those shots will be successful. As I posted, the limited snap count concerns me. But I like the matchup a lot and I'm a huge Bradford fan and watching the Rams, it's clear having Alexander in the lineup opens up what they want to do with the passing game. There are no guarantees this is going to work (hell, maybe Robinson or Gibson go off and Alexander catches one pass), but I think the positive factors greatly outweigh the negative which is why I believe Alexander makes for a fine upside sleeper pick. I need the upside this week so that's why he starts for me over Crabtree, who I believe is a more talented WR but has a far more difficult matchup and currently has a much less talented quarterback.

 

[tigerz]

I am really tempted, I have no one to use for a flex that I like so I might plug him in for the one week special. If he had less competition and a floor of 50 yards I'd do this but I feel like a zero is highly probable so this one is a real gamble unlike Obomanu last week or Seyi weeks prior. The Cardinals aren't good but they aren't Houston bad and division games are always tougher. If I did put him in then it would be over Ronnie Brown, Santana Moss, and Branch but this one is too hard to read right now so I'd lean toward no.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

DA over Bowe for me.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

In for me as of now over

Reserves Games Stats TotalA. Rodgers QB GB v SF 12/5 1:00 0T. Choice RB DAL @ IND 12/5 4:15 0M. Hart RB IND v DAL 12/5 4:15 0B. Scott RB CIN v NO 12/5 1:00 0R. Williams RB MIA v CLE 12/5 1:00 0A. Armstrong WR WAS @ NYG 12/5 1:00 0B. Marshall WR MIA v CLE 12/5 1:00 0D. Thomas WR DEN @ KC 12/5 1:00 0A. Hernandez TE NE v NYJ 12/6 8:30
well not over Aaron Rogers, but no qb flex here.

 

[SieteCinco]

DA over Bowe for me.

Was a joke, I don't even have Bowe on any of my teams. I am thinking about starting him over guys like Garcon/Knox/Smith/Moss and possibly Wallace though.

 

[BigJim®]

DA over Bowe for me.

My sarcasm meter went off on that post, but who knows.I'm starting Alexander - I won't say over who because it's a WR you'd always start, and I'd get rightfully ridiculed for doing it. But a lot of it has to do with this being a great matchup for Bradford. 280 3 TDs to go around against that D? I'll take my chances. No matter how much he plays, IMHO it's no secret in St. Louis that this guy needs the ball.

"When I see the ball going up to him, I'm extremely excited," guard Jacob Bell said. "It doesn't seem like he catches anything under 20 yards. That's nice to have."The 6-foot-5, 215-pound rookie "adds a little more size to our usual receiving corps," Bradford said. "And then he's got some speed that allows us to do some things down the field."On Sunday, those things turned into points for the Rams."The kid's making plays every time he's on the field; he's obviously pretty special," Bell said. "We're happy to have him, we need to keep him healthy ... and let's get that kid the ball."

 

[Otis]

Glad to see all my fine, red-tailed friends in here.

 

[Cenobite]

I'm in. DA over S. Moss. Throwing caution to the wind!

 

[CataclysmicThunder]

The limited snap count concerns me but the Cardinals stink right now defensively and can be beaten deep. Troy Smith beat them for a TD Monday night to Crabtree and he's pretty awful as a QB. Bradford is taking his shots downfield to Alexander and the two missed on a TD by about an inch against Denver. Alexander is risky because he's basically the No. 4 WR here but it's clear they want to get him involved, Bradford is playing great and the matchup is incredibly in the Rams' favor.I'm in. Alexander starts for me this week.

I'm convinced. I'm starting Alexander over... Mike Wallace this week.

I changed my mind. I'm keeping Wallace in and starting Alexander over... a limited (if he even plays) Dez Bryant.

 

[kupcho1]

Glad to see all my fine, red-tailed friends in here.

DA over Brandon Marshall. Easy call really.

 

[kupcho1]

Glad to see all my fine, red-tailed friends in here.

DA over Brandon Marshall. Easy call really.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Starting Danario over Sidney Rice and Braylon

 

[Abrantes]

The limited snap count concerns me but the Cardinals stink right now defensively and can be beaten deep. Troy Smith beat them for a TD Monday night to Crabtree and he's pretty awful as a QB. Bradford is taking his shots downfield to Alexander and the two missed on a TD by about an inch against Denver. Alexander is risky because he's basically the No. 4 WR here but it's clear they want to get him involved, Bradford is playing great and the matchup is incredibly in the Rams' favor.I'm in. Alexander starts for me this week.

I'm convinced. I'm starting Alexander over... Mike Wallace this week.

I changed my mind. I'm keeping Wallace in and starting Alexander over... a limited (if he even plays) Dez Bryant.

Also starting Danario over Dez, despite points for return yardage. He looked really damn good last week, playing tough and fighting for yards.

 

[Guru]

Starting DA over Royal.

 

[jpeace121]

Need points, so it's worth the gamble. Going with him over S Moss, Hester, Obamanu.

 

[Lutherman2112]

With B. Marshall inactive, going with Alexander at flex.

 

[Horses Mouth]

in. over santana moss at flex

 

[tigerz]

Caved. I needed points so I put him in over Santana and Ronnie Brown. Don't feel too good about it but whatever, might as well gamble.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

DA over Bowe for me.

Was a joke, I don't even have Bowe on any of my teams. I am thinking about starting him over guys like Garcon/Knox/Smith/Moss and possibly Wallace though.

too bad --- would've been a great call

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Starting Danario over Sidney Rice and Braylon

ouch

 

[FFdork]

FYI: He could have had a much nicer game. Just from occasionally eying the game tracker I know he had a redzone target that went to replay and some other deep targets. It seemed like Bradford was definitely looking his way when he was in there.

 

[cvnpoka]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

 

[DoubleG]

Some people went a little crazy up in here.

If you sat down Wayne, Colston, or S. Rice for Danario...put your face up close to your monitor so I can slap the #### out of you.

Now just stop.

FF WR 101:

The lesson for today. Targets = FF points (even in nonPPR). If Player A (we'll call him WAAAAyne) gets 12-18 targets/game and Player B (we'll call him Banario) get's 12-18 PLAYS per game (maybe 4-5 targets, 6 if his QB is feeling saucey), Player A will outscore Player B MOST (read 90%+) of the time.

Lesson concluded.

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

I had the opportunity to start Bowe and Andre Johnson along with Alexander, but I politely said "pass" and left the other two WR spots blank. If fact, my only starters are him, Harrison and Larry Johnson. I've already spent the winnings on a new Audi.:screech:

 

[Abrantes]

Well, the good news is that at least he had a reasonable number of targets (7).

 

[Inspiration]

Well, the good news is that at least he had a reasonable number of targets (7).

Not that it makes a difference, but he actually had 6 targets. The target that went for an interception was actually intended for Daniel Fells (Alexander was on the other side of the field).

 

[packersfan]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

You and me both. That was by far Bradford's worst game of the season and the fact it came against a horrible defense makes it all the more surprising. That said, it was a gamble to start Alexander. All of us who did it had to know that. Unfortunately, it was an epic fail. Would've been nice if Alexander had at least an OK day instead of royally soiling the bed. Not his fault Bradford played like a** but it still sucks.

 

[Inspiration]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

You and me both. That was by far Bradford's worst game of the season and the fact it came against a horrible defense makes it all the more surprising. That said, it was a gamble to start Alexander. All of us who did it had to know that. Unfortunately, it was an epic fail. Would've been nice if Alexander had at least an OK day instead of royally soiling the bed. Not his fault Bradford played like a** but it still sucks.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. Bradford wasn't great, but Arizona surprisingly was able to get consistent pressure on him all game (apparently someone finally told Calais Campbell that the season started?). Bradford did miss wide on a slant to Alexander (although he didn't have great separation on the play), but the other incompletions were either batted down at the line or thrown away due to the defensive pressure. Alexander tends to run proportionally more deeper routes than the other receivers, so it's not entirely surprising that Bradford wasn't able to consistently get the ball to him.

 

[cvnpoka]

Some people went a little crazy up in here.

If you sat down Wayne, Colston, or S. Rice for Danario...put your face up close to your monitor so I can slap the #### out of you.

Now just stop.

FF WR 101:

The lesson for today. Targets = FF points (even in nonPPR). If Player A (we'll call him WAAAAyne) gets 12-18 targets/game and Player B (we'll call him Banario) get's 12-18 PLAYS per game (maybe 4-5 targets, 6 if his QB is feeling saucey), Player A will outscore Player B MOST (read 90%+) of the time.

Lesson concluded.

danario had 7 targets. thats enough to be fantasy viable regardless of how many plays he is on the field. very few players get 12-18 targets and its pretty hard to predict when those games will occur. that comes out to 192 targets a year. this year, not one single player is avging that and since 2002 only 4 players have avged over 12 targets a game.

 

[cvnpoka]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

You and me both. That was by far Bradford's worst game of the season and the fact it came against a horrible defense makes it all the more surprising. That said, it was a gamble to start Alexander. All of us who did it had to know that. Unfortunately, it was an epic fail. Would've been nice if Alexander had at least an OK day instead of royally soiling the bed. Not his fault Bradford played like a** but it still sucks.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. Bradford wasn't great, but Arizona surprisingly was able to get consistent pressure on him all game (apparently someone finally told Calais Campbell that the season started?). Bradford did miss wide on a slant to Alexander (although he didn't have great separation on the play), but the other incompletions were either batted down at the line or thrown away due to the defensive pressure. Alexander tends to run proportionally more deeper routes than the other receivers, so it's not entirely surprising that Bradford wasn't able to consistently get the ball to him.

had the same sense that bradford was under a lot of pressure. havent seen much of either team this year so wasnt sure if that was usual.anyway, could be partially bradfords fault as i read somewhere that he wasnt able to get much separation. not sure how much stock i put into those kind of reports tho.

 

[packersfan]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

You and me both. That was by far Bradford's worst game of the season and the fact it came against a horrible defense makes it all the more surprising. That said, it was a gamble to start Alexander. All of us who did it had to know that. Unfortunately, it was an epic fail. Would've been nice if Alexander had at least an OK day instead of royally soiling the bed. Not his fault Bradford played like a** but it still sucks.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. Bradford wasn't great, but Arizona surprisingly was able to get consistent pressure on him all game (apparently someone finally told Calais Campbell that the season started?). Bradford did miss wide on a slant to Alexander (although he didn't have great separation on the play), but the other incompletions were either batted down at the line or thrown away due to the defensive pressure. Alexander tends to run proportionally more deeper routes than the other receivers, so it's not entirely surprising that Bradford wasn't able to consistently get the ball to him.

I like Bradford quite a bit but I thought he played poorly yesterday. It happens. Just happened against a very beatable matchup so it sucks for those of us who started him, Alexander or (ugh) both.

 

[Football Jones]

The amazing thing with Bradford is even when he has a so-so game statistically, he never looks bad.

Remember, Bradford has off-the-chart talent, but he needs a little more help. They were also on the road, which can be tough on a young offense. I really believe Bradford & Alexander are going to be dynamic, but it's a process.

Patience.

 

[DoubleG]

Some people went a little crazy up in here.

If you sat down Wayne, Colston, or S. Rice for Danario...put your face up close to your monitor so I can slap the #### out of you.

Now just stop.

FF WR 101:

The lesson for today. Targets = FF points (even in nonPPR). If Player A (we'll call him WAAAAyne) gets 12-18 targets/game and Player B (we'll call him Banario) get's 12-18 PLAYS per game (maybe 4-5 targets, 6 if his QB is feeling saucey), Player A will outscore Player B MOST (read 90%+) of the time.

Lesson concluded.

danario had 7 targets. thats enough to be fantasy viable regardless of how many plays he is on the field. very few players get 12-18 targets and its pretty hard to predict when those games will occur. that comes out to 192 targets a year. this year, not one single player is avging that and since 2002 only 4 players have avged over 12 targets a game.

First off, Danario had 6 targets (not 7) ...in one game. Secondly, it was a figure of speech - of course no one is averaging 12-18 targets per game - but there are players averaging almost that (Wayne IS averaging 11 targets/game - and there are 5 this season averaging 10+) - which is almost as many PLAYS as Danario has seen per game (actually he has seen much fewer if you include the games he's been injured). The point is simple. Going into the game Danario wasn't even a lock to get 6 targets - Wayne WAS a virtual lock to see at least 10. Finally, many of Danario's targets are deep (i.e. lower catch %) = more volatile production.People sitting guys like Wayne or S. Rice (both mentioned that was the case in this thread) were over-playing the hype. Danario wasn't and won't see nearly the # of targets (yet) and isn't nearly as safe a bet to put up the numbers those two can. Starting him over either on the off chance that he might outproduce them by just a few points was a risk statistically not worth taking.

 

[packersfan]

The amazing thing with Bradford is even when he has a so-so game statistically, he never looks bad. Remember, Bradford has off-the-chart talent, but he needs a little more help. They were also on the road, which can be tough on a young offense. I really believe Bradford & Alexander are going to be dynamic, but it's a process.Patience.

I agree long-term there's a lot to like about the two of them. That doesn't do me any good for the kick in the n@@s they gave me yesterday, though. Let me steamed about that for a little bit, ok?

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

bradford played like crap against one of the worst d's in the league. ya im bitter.

You and me both. That was by far Bradford's worst game of the season and the fact it came against a horrible defense makes it all the more surprising. That said, it was a gamble to start Alexander. All of us who did it had to know that. Unfortunately, it was an epic fail. Would've been nice if Alexander had at least an OK day instead of royally soiling the bed. Not his fault Bradford played like a** but it still sucks.

bad fantasy game but very good game for Bradford. AZ rose to the occasion on D. Sam showed alot of poise

 

[Football Jones]

The amazing thing with Bradford is even when he has a so-so game statistically, he never looks bad. Remember, Bradford has off-the-chart talent, but he needs a little more help. They were also on the road, which can be tough on a young offense. I really believe Bradford & Alexander are going to be dynamic, but it's a process.Patience.

I agree long-term there's a lot to like about the two of them. That doesn't do me any good for the kick in the n@@s they gave me yesterday, though. Let me steamed about that for a little bit, ok?

i hear ya, LOL

 

[cvnpoka]

First off, Danario had 6 targets (not 7) ...in one game. Secondly, it was a figure of speech - of course no one is averaging 12-18 targets per game - but there are players averaging almost that (Wayne IS averaging 11 targets/game - and there are 5 this season averaging 10+) - which is almost as many PLAYS as Danario has seen per game (actually he has seen much fewer if you include the games he's been injured). The point is simple. Going into the game Danario wasn't even a lock to get 6 targets - Wayne WAS a virtual lock to see at least 10. Finally, many of Danario's targets are deep (i.e. lower catch %) = more volatile production.

People sitting guys like Wayne or S. Rice (both mentioned that was the case in this thread) were over-playing the hype. Danario wasn't and won't see nearly the # of targets (yet) and isn't nearly as safe a bet to put up the numbers those two can. Starting him over either on the off chance that he might outproduce them by just a few points was a risk statistically not worth taking.

well ofc sitting wayne or colston for danario is lol. sidney rice is very much hindsight bias on your part i would imagine, considering his pathetic output the previous 2 weeks. will admit to not being very familiar with rices situation and prospect as i dont have him on any teams.

anyway, i started him over waiver wire replacement fodder (for my leagues with shortish rosters) like knox, ford, obamanu, lance moore. also benched dez bryant who i just dont trust.

 

[CrossEyed]

So is he startable this week? I have so many question marks at WR I'd like to find a healthy option that won't be playing in a rain/snow storm.

 

[Sebowski]

So is he startable this week? I have so many question marks at WR I'd like to find a healthy option that won't be playing in a rain/snow storm.

I'm in the same boat. Right now I have SS Giants in, but just read about his harness restricting his arm extensions. Not good for a WR. Also have BMW and Obo questionable. Would love to read something positive about any of the 4 to sway me.DA seems like the biggest risk/reward.

 

[cvnpoka]

saints have not given up many fantasy points to wr this season.

 

[CrossEyed]

So is he startable this week? I have so many question marks at WR I'd like to find a healthy option that won't be playing in a rain/snow storm.

I'm in the same boat. Right now I have SS Giants in, but just read about his harness restricting his arm extensions. Not good for a WR. Also have BMW and Obo questionable. Would love to read something positive about any of the 4 to sway me.DA seems like the biggest risk/reward.

Yeah, I'm choosing 3 between Woodhead, Nicks, BMW, Obomanu, Armstrong, Amendola, and Alexander. Not a single solid option this week in the bunch.

 

[CrossEyed]

Is he even playing?

 

[SieteCinco]

I tried asking the same question in the STL-NO game thread but never got an answer.

Sooooo glad I had a bye this week. Would have likely been my lowest scoring weeks of the year.

 

[todisco1]

Missouri Governer hawk screech?

(Rotoworld) Missouri Governor Jay Nixon told Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo recently that he believes Danario Alexander is deserving of more playing time.Analysis: "He said, `Put some plays in for Danario,'" Spagnuolo joked. "They're going in now. They're definitely going in. He's got a lot of pull." Alexander hasn't played more than 23 snaps in any of his appearances this season. Nixon's executive order probably won't help him much, but it was worth a try.