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Can LJ go for 2500 yds? (1 Viewer)

Im an LJ owner.....in a word....NO.

2000 has been done a handful of times in history. There is no way he comes close to 25.....mybe 2k, but he's not hurdling every other great HOF back in history to stand that far out above ....I dont even know why reporters bring up this kind of ridiculous discussion. I see him getting 1800 and 20plus again....anything beyond that is wildly unpredictable.

 
no

For all we know, LJ might have had his best year last year and he'll start a small(tiny) decline this year. Dickerson peaked in his second year at 2105 but still got tons of yards and was a stud HOF RB. Barry Sanders "only" had about 1500 yards after his best season. You never know, but the odds are certainly against it.

 
Possible - I guess, almost anything is possible. Highly, extremely unlikely, but "possible".

If he did though, his career would be short lived.

 
OZ is right, any KC fan who wants LJ to run for 2500 is crazy....

For the CHiefs sake, I will take a mere 1700, avging 5 a carry and about 20 TDs a season for 5 more years.

 
No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).

 
why do I think every time a back talks about running for 2K yards, he ends up hurt and is lucky to hit 1000.

 
why do I think every time a back talks about running for 2K yards, he ends up hurt and is lucky to hit 1000.
I don't know, but if that is the case, it's a good thing he's talking about 2500 yds instead. :thumbup:

 
Not only will LJ fail to get 2,500 yards but he won't even get 1,500 yards. Ppl are looking at what he did last year and projecting his rushing totals to be 2,000 yards but frankly the stars were aligned for him. This season he'll lose carries to priest holmes, will shields will prolly retire, and willie roaf will most likely miss at least some time due to injury

 
Not only will LJ fail to get 2,500 yards but he won't even get 1,500 yards. Ppl are looking at what he did last year and projecting his rushing totals to be 2,000 yards but frankly the stars were aligned for him. This season he'll lose carries to priest holmes, will shields will prolly retire, and willie roaf will most likely miss at least some time due to injury
:goodposting: If the offensive line loses Will Shields, LJ won't find as much room to run in 2006 as he did in 2005. He'll still be an elite back, but expecting him to hit the 2,000 yard mark is a reach.

Project him for around 340 carries - 1,600 yards and 14 touchdowns. Anything more than that is folly.

He would have to have 400 carries and average over 6 yards per carry to hit 2,500 yards. Not going to happen.

 
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No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
Y no Terrell Davis?
 
Not only will LJ fail to get 2,500 yards but he won't even get 1,500 yards. Ppl are looking at what he did last year and projecting his rushing totals to be 2,000 yards but frankly the stars were aligned for him. This season he'll lose carries to priest holmes, will shields will prolly retire, and willie roaf will most likely miss at least some time due to injury
There is much greater chance Holmes retires and Shields comes back. Holmes had a very serious head and neck injury.From Rotoworld today:

Coach Herm Edwards believes veteran guard Will Shields won't retire.
Plus you are predicting injuries for Roaf? :lmao:
 
No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
Y no Terrell Davis?
Good question. The Chiefs best compare with that Broncos offense anyway.Davis owns the record for most rushing yards in a season -- 2,476 including playoffs. Even he couldn't get to 2,500 in 19 games.

 
No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
I felt obligated to respond to this and do some research of my own (with no preconceived notions). Here are stats from his 9 games as a starting back and the corresponding passing and defense numbers.Passing; Defense

22/35 235 TD; 23PA, Sack, INT

23/40 220 3INT; 14PA, 2Sack, 2FF

19/29 220 3TD, INT; 17PA, Sack, INT, 2FF

19/26 323 TD; 16PA, 3Sack, 4INT, FF

16/23 253 2TD, 2INT; 27PA, 2Sack, 2INT

20/32 340 TD; 31PA, 4Sack, FF

15/28 176 INT; 27PA, Sack, INT, FF

19/35 207 2TD; 7PA, Sack, INT

23/29 344 TD; 3PA, Sack, 2INT

Total: 176/277 2318 11TD, 4INT; 165PA, 15Sack, 12INT, 7FF

Avg: 19.6/30.7 1.2TD, .4INT; 18.3PA, 1.7Sack, 1.3INT, .8FF

Adj.Season: 313/492 4121 20TD, 7INT; 293PA, 27Sack, 21INT, 12FF

Adj.Passing Offense Rank: 2nd

Adj.Defensive Scoring Rank: T-9th

Actual Passing Offense Rank: 6th

Actual Defensive Scoring Rank: 16th

Johnson Totals as a Starter: 261 1351 16TD 5.2avg, 27 276 TD 10.2avg

Adj.Johnson Totals: 464 2402 28TD, 48 491 2TD

Now, it seems to me that if you think about it.... Johnson would be slated to have a Barry Sanders-type 2000+ yard year. A good passing offense and a pretty good defense. Throw in the fact that he's a receiving threat (like Barry Sanders, 33 305 3TDs in 1997), and I'd say he's reasonably capable of breaking 2500 yards from scrimmage, but not 2500 rushing yards.

If Johnson does ever break 2500 rushing yards or come near it, it will be in 2006 and 2006 only, because he'll never in his career ever have a better offensive line or full back or overall situation to accomplish this feat.

For what it's worth, Shaun Alexander is in a very similar position to do that in Seattle, but unlike Johnson, probably will have that opportunity for each of the next 3-5 years.

 
No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
CalBear-this is one of the best posts you've made. Well thought out. While the evidence does not support it happening, I agree with Kevin, do we want him too? I would be happier with the 1700, 20 TD's and about 40 catches. That's solid stuff and can anchor many teams for a few years.
 
As everyone has said: No. Not only no for LJ, no for any back.

The most carries in one season is 410 (Jamal Anderson). Only 3 other times has a back had over 400. Only 15 total times has a back had 380 or more.

Even with 410 carries, a RB would need to average 6.1 ypc to reach 2500 rushing yards. With less carries, the ypc required obviously goes up.

The 5 backs to exceed 2000 rushing yards averaged 5.6 (Dickerson), 5.3 (Lewis), 6.1 (Sanders), 5.1 (Davis), and 6.0 (Simpson).

Some of those look close, but really there is a huge gap between 6.1 and 5.6, 5.3, and 5.1. So only Sanders & Simpson came close to the ypc required. But consider that Sanders had only 335 carries and Simpson had only 332. Each would have needed another 75+ carries (+23%) with no dropoff.

The only way anyone is going to reach 2500 rushing yards is if the NFL adds games to the schedule.

 
The only way anyone is going to reach 2500 rushing yards is if the NFL adds games to the schedule.
Which reminds me - what's the most yards ever gained by a RB, including playoffs?
 
No, absolutely not.  That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game).  Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible.  Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload. 

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006.  If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others.  Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders.  The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time.  I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same.  If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
I felt obligated to respond to this and do some research of my own (with no preconceived notions). Here are stats from his 9 games as a starting back and the corresponding passing and defense numbers.Passing; Defense

22/35 235 TD; 23PA, Sack, INT

23/40 220 3INT; 14PA, 2Sack, 2FF

19/29 220 3TD, INT; 17PA, Sack, INT, 2FF

19/26 323 TD; 16PA, 3Sack, 4INT, FF

16/23 253 2TD, 2INT; 27PA, 2Sack, 2INT

20/32 340 TD; 31PA, 4Sack, FF

15/28 176 INT; 27PA, Sack, INT, FF

19/35 207 2TD; 7PA, Sack, INT

23/29 344 TD; 3PA, Sack, 2INT

Total: 176/277 2318 11TD, 4INT; 165PA, 15Sack, 12INT, 7FF

Avg: 19.6/30.7 1.2TD, .4INT; 18.3PA, 1.7Sack, 1.3INT, .8FF

Adj.Season: 313/492 4121 20TD, 7INT; 293PA, 27Sack, 21INT, 12FF

Adj.Passing Offense Rank: 2nd

Adj.Defensive Scoring Rank: T-9th

Actual Passing Offense Rank: 6th

Actual Defensive Scoring Rank: 16th

Johnson Totals as a Starter: 261 1351 16TD 5.2avg, 27 276 TD 10.2avg

Adj.Johnson Totals: 464 2402 28TD, 48 491 2TD

Now, it seems to me that if you think about it.... Johnson would be slated to have a Barry Sanders-type 2000+ yard year. A good passing offense and a pretty good defense. Throw in the fact that he's a receiving threat (like Barry Sanders, 33 305 3TDs in 1997), and I'd say he's reasonably capable of breaking 2500 yards from scrimmage, but not 2500 rushing yards.

If Johnson does ever break 2500 rushing yards or come near it, it will be in 2006 and 2006 only, because he'll never in his career ever have a better offensive line or full back or overall situation to accomplish this feat.

For what it's worth, Shaun Alexander is in a very similar position to do that in Seattle, but unlike Johnson, probably will have that opportunity for each of the next 3-5 years.
fantastic post...thanks for the insight
 
Something that hasn't been mentioned but may affect LJ's numbers is not only losing his head coach but the OC. The new OC may not be as an effective and committed play caller as Al Saunders was. I believe the Offensive line coach was promoted which will help with the continuity but his lack of experience as a play caller might hinder LJ's, er, chance at 2500 yards which is realistically unattainable anyway.

 
Something that hasn't been mentioned but may affect LJ's numbers is not only losing his head coach but the OC. The new OC may not be as an effective and committed play caller as Al Saunders was. I believe the Offensive line coach was promoted which will help with the continuity but his lack of experience as a play caller might hinder LJ's, er, chance at 2500 yards which is realistically unattainable anyway.
Actually it has been brought up and it is a very good point that is being totally overlooked.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=223925&hl=

 
The new OC is the old OL coach who CALLED ALL THE RUNNING PLAYS.

Mike Solari was in charge of calling the running game.....and I believe he will still coach the O-Line.

 
No, absolutely not. That's averaging, over the course of a season, even more than LJ averaged over the second half of last year (156.25 yards per game). Johnson didn't have any bad games last year; just one bad game all season makes 2500 yards impossible. Let alone staying healthy for that kind of workload.

He has a realistic shot at 2000 yards, depending on what happens with the team in 2006. If you look at the backs who've rushed for 2000 yards, there are some team similarities

Passing offense:

Buffalo 1973 (OJ): #26 of 26 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, TDs.

Rams 1974 (Dickerson): #28 of 28 in pass completions, attempts, yardage, #23 in TDs.

Detroit 1997 (Sanders): #11 in yardage, #18 in TDs.

Baltimore 2003 (Lewis): #32 of 32 in completions, attempts, yardage, #26 in TDs.

Defense:

Buffalo: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #10 in rushing yards per attempt against

Rams: #13 in points allowed, #13 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Detroit: #10 in points allowed, #14 in yardage allowed, #14 in rushing yards per attempt against

Baltimore: #6 in points allowed, #4 in yardage allowed, #3 in rushing yards per attempt against

Barry Sanders' year was different than the others, and for that matter he's a different kind of runner than the others. Johnson is much more similar to OJ, Dickerson and Lewis than he is to Sanders. The 2000-yard seasons for those backs required a pathetic pass offense, and a good defense, particularly in rushing yards per attempt against (important, I would estimate, because a good run defense lengthens the game, giving your rushing offense more attempts).

KC has had a top-5 passing offense for the past three years, and has had a bottom-half run defense over the same period of time. I do not think it's likely that Johnson will reach 2000 yards if those two factors remain the same. If there is a Trent Green or Tony Gonzalez injury, and the run defense improves, he may be put in a position to reach 2000 yards (or even Dickerson's record).
Y no Terrell Davis?
Well a much shorter version of CalBear's post would basically be that those four guys had HORRIBLE QB's which meant they were forced ride their RB harder than they really should have or would have liked. It's safe to say the exception would be Terrell Davis which means he doesn't fit into the above equation. While LJ's situation falls somewhere in between...not as great a defense as the above, but no Elway, Sharpe, Smith, McCaffrey on the offensive side but probably a better overall offensive system. Does the system change slightly with Edwards?...does Trent Green get worse? Do they end up with Terrell Owens? Does the defense get better? etc etc... All those things and more become huge fators and if even one of them doesn't break just right then 2500 yards is impossible. Personally I think its impossible anyway.
 
Plus you are predicting injuries for Roaf? :lmao:
Someone said pretty much the same thing this past offseason after I predicted culpepper to get hurt(although I didn't expect his injury to be as severe as it was)
 
Thats a ridiculous prediction, even coming from a Chefs fan. As good as LJ is, that is a TON of yds in one yr. Im guessing that Will Shields will return next yr, considering the way he was acting after the pro bowl. But if he chooses not to return, even as amazing as hes been over he past decade (+), the Chefs do a majority of their running behind the left side of the line, Roaf and Waters. I guess we shall see!!!

ps. Lendale White will be a better PRO rb than reggie bush

 
Oh I'm sorry I must have walked in the wrong room. I thought you were talking about Lamont Jordan. Carry on...
you're an idiot....LJ Lamont Jordan? i hope that was a joke
It takes one too know one, sticks and stones, I'm rubber you're glue. Of course it was a joke dumb ###.
 
Terrell Davis owns the record for most rushing yards in a season -- 2,476 including playoffs. Even he couldn't get to 2,500 in 19 games.
To put this in further perspective, Marshall Faulk owns the NFL record for most TOTAL yards in one season, and his rushing/receiving totals only amounted to 2,429.As Perry Como sang.... It's impossible.

 
Terrell Davis owns the record for most rushing yards in a season -- 2,476 including playoffs. Even he couldn't get to 2,500 in 19 games.
To put this in further perspective, Marshall Faulk owns the NFL record for most TOTAL yards in one season, and his rushing/receiving totals only amounted to 2,429.As Perry Como sang.... It's impossible.
Larry Johnson will be running behind a superior line in a superior system. I fail to see how it's not possible. And correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't that just a few years ago that Faulk set that record? 2001?So..... five years later it's not possible to rush for 71 more yards?

 
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Terrell Davis owns the record for most rushing yards in a season -- 2,476 including playoffs. Even he couldn't get to 2,500 in 19 games.
To put this in further perspective, Marshall Faulk owns the NFL record for most TOTAL yards in one season, and his rushing/receiving totals only amounted to 2,429.As Perry Como sang.... It's impossible.
Larry Johnson will be running behind a superior line in a superior system. I fail to see how it's not possible. And correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't that just a few years ago that Faulk set that record? 2001?So..... five years later it's not possible to rush for 71 more yards?
It was 1999. And try reading my post again.
 
I was under the impression the argument had progressed to total scrimmage yards.... which I've said is perfectly possible next season for Johnson. Didn't know we were digressing back to this silly idea of breaking 2,500 rushing yards.

 
I was under the impression the argument had progressed to total scrimmage yards.... which I've said is perfectly possible next season for Johnson. Didn't know we were digressing back to this silly idea of breaking 2,500 rushing yards.
It was my first time posting in the thread, so I was answering the original query.Glad we all agree that 2,500 rushing yards is a pipe dream.

 
OZ is right, any KC fan who wants LJ to run for 2500 is crazy....

For the CHiefs sake, I will take a mere 1700, avging 5 a carry and about 20 TDs a season for 5 more years.
as an LJ owner,where can i sign up for these stats, i'd gladly take 1700/20tds for the next 5 years..anything over 1700 is gravy!

 
Plus you are predicting injuries for Roaf?  :lmao:
Someone said pretty much the same thing this past offseason after I predicted culpepper to get hurt(although I didn't expect his injury to be as severe as it was)
Yeah but wasn't Roaf hurt this past year too?
 
Didn't we have this same discussion *last* season about a player who had an unreal season, and nobody thought he would come back to earth?

Peyton Manning owners, how did you do this year again? :)

 
Didn't we have this same discussion *last* season about a player who had an unreal season, and nobody thought he would come back to earth?

Peyton Manning owners, how did you do this year again? :)
Wait till next year. When he throws 50 TDs, you'll take that back! ;)
 
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Didn't we have this same discussion *last* season about a player who had an unreal season, and nobody thought he would come back to earth?

Peyton Manning owners, how did you do this year again? :)
While I think suggesting LJ will get 2500 rushing yards is ridiculous, and I suspect you're just making a point -- and a valid one, at that -- I think the situations are very different.First off, Manning's 2005 passing yardage was 82% of his 2004 total. The more significant dropoff came in TDs, but on a per meaningful game basis, this was not as bad as it appeared. Specifically, his 28 regular season TDs represent 57% of 2004's 49. However, if you look at the 15 meaningful games on the 2004 schedule vs. the 13 meaningful 2005 games, Manning's 2005 numbers are 64% of 2005's.

Most people suspect Larry Johnson won't be able to keep up his pace from the time he became a starter last year, and with good reason. Over a 16 game season, his pace from weeks 9 to 17 would correspond to:

2402 rushing yards, 491 receiving yards and 30 TDs

These numbers would exceed the existing records for

most rush yards, season (2105, Dickerson) by 14%

most yards from scrimmage, season (2429, Faulk) by 19%

most TDs, season (28, Alexander) by 8 %

Projecting similar dropoffs in yardage and TDs to Manning's in 2005...

82% of 2402 projects to 1900+ yards rushing

64% of 30 would see Johnson score 19 TDs

In addition to the obvious questions on the role of Priest Holmes and the health and possible retirement of Shields and/or Roaf, I have another question. Will LJ wear down over 16 games, or will he be rested more since he will be starting from Week 1 rather than Week 9 as he did in 2004? In my opinion, the key to answering that question is Herm Edwards.

While you think about that question, keep in mind that during the 2004 season, with Edwards as his coach, Curtis Martin led the league in rushing as well as achieving:

the most rushing yards in his career (1697)

the most rushing attempts in his career (371)

the highest yards per carry in his career (4.6)

the most total yards from scrimmage in his career (1942)

the most total touches in his career (tied his previous high with 412)

Martin's 14 total TDs is the most he has had as a Jet and was his best since his first two pro seasons as a Patriot in 1996-97.

Keep in mind that Martin was much older and in his 10th year as a starting RB in the NFL -- with over 3,000 touches to his credit-- when he started that 2004 season. By comparison, Johnson has started less than one full season and has barely 500 career touches.

 
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