Can Reggie Bush keep this pace up? (1 Viewer)

[North]

I certainly don't expect him to finish the year as the #1 RB, but in my league (PPR) he is currently ranked #1. With the injuries to Colston and now Shockey does his stock drop or will he continue to produce? I'm not expecting 10 catches a game from him but is 7-8 catches per game for the season out of the question, or maybe 100 receptions for the year? That would be a lot of receptions but the way that offense looks, it doesn't seem out of the question. This week should be a nice game for Bush but his schedule gets tougher as the season rolls on and I'm wondering if he can handle this much work? I hope so, but I'm wondering what others think.

 

[David Yudkin]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

 

[blackjack23]

Once Colston & Shockey come back the receptions and thus alot of yds will drop dramatically.

 

[two_dollars]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

Yup. And he worked out on the off season in NO to be better prepared for this year. By all accounts he was very focused this off season because he wanted to improve. So far, it appears he's reaping the fruits of those efforts. Why shouldn't it continue?

 

[blackjack23]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

 

[TheFanatic]

Of course not. The guy is a WR pretending to be a Mediocre RB!?!?!

 

[saintsfan]

Once Colston & Shockey come back the receptions and thus alot of yds will drop dramatically.

I don't know about that. The first three weeks of the season, it's obvious to me having watched the Saints every second of every game that Bush is, along with Brees, at the center of this offense. He does a little bit of everything for them.I don't expect him to keep up the pace he's on as that pace would shatter total yardage records, but he will definately be over his "career" averages so far, if you can call 2 years a "career." If he stays healthy, there is nothing that would prevent 2000 yards from scrimmage and 15 TDs, IMO.

 

[two_dollars]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

A couple maybe, I think the game will dictate that more. Once Colston comes back, Moore, Henderson, Meachem, and Patten will recieve less targets. Shockey might grab one or 2 a game from him, but he may not be back until week 10. I certainly do not expect 11 receptions like last week, but I would be very very suprised if his weekly reception average dropped below 6-7 a game.

 

[two_dollars]

Of course not. The guy is a WR pretending to be a Mediocre RB!?!?!

But thankfully he's listed as a RB for those in PPR leagues

 

[blackjack23]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

A couple maybe, I think the game will dictate that more. Once Colston comes back, Moore, Henderson, Meachem, and Patten will recieve less targets. Shockey might grab one or 2 a game from him, but he may not be back until week 10. I certainly do not expect 11 receptions like last week, but I would be very very suprised if his weekly reception average dropped below 6-7 a game.

As would I. So you're saying he cant keep this pace up.

 

[two_dollars]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

A couple maybe, I think the game will dictate that more. Once Colston comes back, Moore, Henderson, Meachem, and Patten will recieve less targets. Shockey might grab one or 2 a game from him, but he may not be back until week 10. I certainly do not expect 11 receptions like last week, but I would be very very suprised if his weekly reception average dropped below 6-7 a game.

As would I. So you're saying he cant keep this pace up.

Well through 3 games he has an 8.67 average, so no, I wouldn't expect him to improve on that if that's what you mean. I do think his yardage will remain about the same though, as Colston and Shockey help stretch the field and gives Bush more space.

 

[saintsfan]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

Colston and Shockey will certainly get some, but Reggie's on pace for 140 receptions. I think he'll still finish with close to 100 receptions. At his average, that's a bit over 900 yards. He's also on pace for 800 yards rushing. That's 1700 yards. Throw in 15 TDs and that's a top 3 back in a PPR league and a top 10 back in virtually any other kind of league.Westbrook kind of numbers. If the Saints actually learn how to run block, those rushing numbers might increase.

 

[saintsfan]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

A couple maybe, I think the game will dictate that more. Once Colston comes back, Moore, Henderson, Meachem, and Patten will recieve less targets. Shockey might grab one or 2 a game from him, but he may not be back until week 10. I certainly do not expect 11 receptions like last week, but I would be very very suprised if his weekly reception average dropped below 6-7 a game.

As would I. So you're saying he cant keep this pace up.

Yeah, but this pace is ridiculous. This pace would put him in a class by himself in terms of yardage. The odds are that he won't keep that up regardless of who returns and who doesn't.He's still gonna be one of the best values on the board, though, if you drafted him in the second round. You got a steal.

 

[Magnum]

Of course not. The guy is a WR pretending to be a Mediocre RB!?!?!

Dude, are you really up for getting your head stomped all over again? About 57 posters punked you in the other Reggie thread.

 

[Jayrod]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

For a guy who the majority of his yds come receiving the ball, dont you think a ton of his targets will decrease once Colston comes back?

A couple maybe, I think the game will dictate that more. Once Colston comes back, Moore, Henderson, Meachem, and Patten will recieve less targets. Shockey might grab one or 2 a game from him, but he may not be back until week 10. I certainly do not expect 11 receptions like last week, but I would be very very suprised if his weekly reception average dropped below 6-7 a game.

As would I. So you're saying he cant keep this pace up.

Yeah, but this pace is ridiculous. This pace would put him in a class by himself in terms of yardage. The odds are that he won't keep that up regardless of who returns and who doesn't.He's still gonna be one of the best values on the board, though, if you drafted him in the second round. You got a steal.

But isn't that what he was supposed to be when the Saints drafted him? Weren't the Texans crazy for letting him get away?He was supposed to be a game changer and big play maker like Faulk, Tomlinson & Westbook. Versitle back who can run, catch and score from anywhere on the field at any time. We've seen it before in the aforementioned trio, so why couldn't a guy who was hyped to be that good out of college, actually be that good?

Maybe he won't get the rushing stats those guys did/do, but then again, he doens't have the O-line of the Eagles, Chargers or 90's Rams either.

Can he keep up this pace? Most likely no....but it is possible. What if Shockey and Colston were done for the season? What would the expectations be then?

 

[Otis]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

He's only started 18 games. It wouldn't shock me to see him make a significant improvement on his career averages to date. That said, I don't expect 10 catches and 144 yards per game.

 

[Chaka]

Of course not. The guy is a WR pretending to be a Mediocre RB!?!?!

Dude, are you really up for getting your head stomped all over again? About 57 posters punked you in the other Reggie thread.

He's not looking to win an argument, he's baiting a hook and hoping to rile people up.Let it go.

 

[Chaka]

This week should be a nice game for Bush...

I am not so sure about that, I am very interested to see what happens on the plays where Willis matches up on Reggie.

 

[switz]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

It's hard to insist on a regression to the mean, when you are only barely into his third season.While I don't expect him to keep at this pace, I don't expect much of a dropoff... I actually feel once the other weapons are back, Bush may be even more effective with his touches.

 

[OU#1]

I think Reggie is more than capable of keeping up this pace from a talent standpoint. The big problem I have with him is he's going to break down sooner rather than later. The other big problem is there's really no clear cut guy that would assume all of his duties (handcuff). I would assume Duece and Pierre would split his roles in half? I'd say don't even bother trying to cuff him as nobody is going to step in and fill his role as there's not many RB's in the NFL that can do what Reggie is doing.

If you watched the game on NFL replay you'll see he's getting used and abused by NO. IMHO it seemed like they are borederline overusing him. I don't know anybody else who could hold up either so it's not a knock on Reggie's physical ability. Actually I would go as far as to say if Reggie wasn't in the primo shape that he is then he would already be broken and NO would be in big trouble. That whole offense is flowing through Reggie right now.

If somebody doesn't step up soon (like Meachem or Moore) then I would be really worried as a Bush owner right now. Somebody HAS to help him carry the load here. If Colston comes back strong then he'll be fine, but otherwise I'd be very cautious with holding on to him from a FF standpoint.

 

[Blackjacks]

Of course not. The guy is a WR pretending to be a Mediocre RB!?!?!

Dude......let it go. I didn't think you would want to be embarressed again like you were in the other thread. Thank God the MOD closed that thread, I think they felt sorry for you.

 

[menobrown]

I think Reggie is more than capable of keeping up this pace from a talent standpoint. The big problem I have with him is he's going to break down sooner rather than later. The other big problem is there's really no clear cut guy that would assume all of his duties (handcuff). I would assume Duece and Pierre would split his roles in half? I'd say don't even bother trying to cuff him as nobody is going to step in and fill his role as there's not many RB's in the NFL that can do what Reggie is doing.If you watched the game on NFL replay you'll see he's getting used and abused by NO. IMHO it seemed like they are borederline overusing him. I don't know anybody else who could hold up either so it's not a knock on Reggie's physical ability. Actually I would go as far as to say if Reggie wasn't in the primo shape that he is then he would already be broken and NO would be in big trouble. That whole offense is flowing through Reggie right now.If somebody doesn't step up soon (like Meachem or Moore) then I would be really worried as a Bush owner right now. Somebody HAS to help him carry the load here. If Colston comes back strong then he'll be fine, but otherwise I'd be very cautious with holding on to him from a FF standpoint.

Agree with this. Bush owner and while I'm loving his production I was watching the Denver game wondering how much more he can take. Two things to me it seems they should be doing. Removing him from punt returns and running more with Thomas/Duece because they need Reggie in the passing game.

 

[bonesman]

I think Reggie is more than capable of keeping up this pace from a talent standpoint. The big problem I have with him is he's going to break down sooner rather than later. The other big problem is there's really no clear cut guy that would assume all of his duties (handcuff). I would assume Duece and Pierre would split his roles in half? I'd say don't even bother trying to cuff him as nobody is going to step in and fill his role as there's not many RB's in the NFL that can do what Reggie is doing.If you watched the game on NFL replay you'll see he's getting used and abused by NO. IMHO it seemed like they are borederline overusing him. I don't know anybody else who could hold up either so it's not a knock on Reggie's physical ability. Actually I would go as far as to say if Reggie wasn't in the primo shape that he is then he would already be broken and NO would be in big trouble. That whole offense is flowing through Reggie right now.If somebody doesn't step up soon (like Meachem or Moore) then I would be really worried as a Bush owner right now. Somebody HAS to help him carry the load here. If Colston comes back strong then he'll be fine, but otherwise I'd be very cautious with holding on to him from a FF standpoint.

Agree with this. Bush owner and while I'm loving his production I was watching the Denver game wondering how much more he can take. Two things to me it seems they should be doing. Removing him from punt returns and running more with Thomas/Duece because they need Reggie in the passing game.

sI have difficulty seeing Bush as an RB that can start 16 games a season, particularly because of the punishment he takes in the passing game.... and for that reason I answer with an emphatic NO to the OP's question.

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

I've seen enough. I'll go out on a limb: Reggie Bush will be a top-5 pick in every format next year.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Reggie will be used frequently as long as he produces these results for the Saints but I do see a drop once Colston and Shockey return and once Deuce is healthy enough to share the load. Although I still feel 60% or more of the carrys will still go to Bush.

 

[MarcO]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

I think to be fair you cannot give last year and his rookie year equal weight and just pull out an average between the two. They were very different years under very different circumstances. While I may agree with your overall conclusion I would expect a better analysis from a staffer.

 

[p00h]

If healthy through the year, I think his bottom is 1600 total yards and 16 tds, an average of 100/1. I think that's his bottom. He's going to have some games where he goes over 200 rushing/receiving, and some where he might be held in the rushing dept. Receiving he should break a 1000 easy. Ideally, I'd say he goes for 2k, with tds in the 15-20 range. His ceiling is unknown. He can break Marshall's record in that offense, not that hard to believe it...

PS: I don't think Colston and Shocker returning hurts his value at all. mainly because Brees hits the open man most of the time. That offense doesn't revolve around any single player. If anything, if you had to say it revolved around someone, I'd say it revolves around Bush. Numbers stay same when the hurt players come back. Possibly get better...

 

[Andy Herron]

Yes, he absolutely CAN keep it up. Could LT keep it up during his prime? Could Barry Sanders keep it up? Could Walter Payton keep it up? What's to say Bush can't keep it up? It's only his 3rd year. We could be looking at a breakout year and someone who can sustain it.

Yup. And he worked out on the off season in NO to be better prepared for this year. By all accounts he was very focused this off season because he wanted to improve. So far, it appears he's reaping the fruits of those efforts. Why shouldn't it continue?

That's pretty much what I was about to post.

 

[David Yudkin]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

I think to be fair you cannot give last year and his rookie year equal weight and just pull out an average between the two. They were very different years under very different circumstances. While I may agree with your overall conclusion I would expect a better analysis from a staffer.

Sorry if the short version did not appease you. But Bush is on pace for 140 receptions and almost 1350 receiving yards. I just don't see either of those two happening.As for someone suggesting his floor is 100/1 a game, I can see the yardage, but I can't see the TDs as being a given.

 

[grouse]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

I think to be fair you cannot give last year and his rookie year equal weight and just pull out an average between the two. They were very different years under very different circumstances. While I may agree with your overall conclusion I would expect a better analysis from a staffer.

Sorry if the short version did not appease you. But Bush is on pace for 140 receptions and almost 1350 receiving yards. I just don't see either of those two happening.As for someone suggesting his floor is 100/1 a game, I can see the yardage, but I can't see the TDs as being a given.

That's off the charts. It's not 2003 Priest Holmes insane (bush won't score enough tds), but overall may not be that far off.

 

[yinzer]

Bush has averaged 88 yards from scrimmage and 6 receptions per game over his career. This year he is at 144 yards from scrimmage and almost 10 receptions a game. So I doubt he will keep up the pace.

I think to be fair you cannot give last year and his rookie year equal weight and just pull out an average between the two. They were very different years under very different circumstances. While I may agree with your overall conclusion I would expect a better analysis from a staffer.

Sorry if the short version did not appease you. But Bush is on pace for 140 receptions and almost 1350 receiving yards. I just don't see either of those two happening.As for someone suggesting his floor is 100/1 a game, I can see the yardage, but I can't see the TDs as being a given.

That's off the charts. It's not 2003 Priest Holmes insane (bush won't score enough tds), but overall may not be that far off.

I would think Colston, and then Shockey when he returns , would help his YPR and by opening things upIts pretty obvious hes a major part of their O and they will get him the ball regardless I think. Hes going to get 15-20+ touches a game no matter what their health or boxscore situation is

Agreed I wouldnt bank on him getting 16 TDs or 140 catches, but 2000 total yards certianly seems plausible to me, with 8+ TDs

 

[Afro Samurai]

But Bush is on pace for 140 receptions and almost 1350 receiving yards. I just don't see either of those two happening.

Just for reference Tomlinson caught 100 passes in 2003, on a team that ran the ball WAY more than the Saints will EVER do under Sean Payton. And the QB who threw all those passes to Tomlinson is the same guy who's currently throwing passes to Bush. Just sayin'

 

[p00h]

140 catches is 8 per, which he is close to pace on right now. With multiple weapons in that offense hurt, he will stay on pace for 8 per for atleast the near future. i think its too torrid a pace to maintain as well, over 16 games, but I think he shatters past 100 catches. And I think with those 100-140 receptions, I think he easily breezes past 1600 total yards as well...

Agree that TDs are obviously hard to project, but I threw the 16 out there based on not only what he already has, but how much that offense is going to score. Even with losing goalline touches, which I hope he grabs a hold of at some point in the season, I think he easily averages 1 per game. Time will tell obviously, but Reggie Bush is going to be fantasy gold all year round, with their other players hurt, when they return, etcetcetc...