AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
Do you guys think Tony Scheffler can become an elite tight end in the NFL? What current player do you think he will most resemble in terms of productivity?
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Can Tony Scheffler become an elite tight end? (1 Viewer)
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Yes, and Todd Heap with the same relationship Witten has with Romo.
This is a guy that when given the opportunity to play has performed very well. His last 4 games last year show the type of production he is capable of. This year he waited for his own injury to heal and then for Nate Jackson to suffer an injury of his own to get significant playing time. Again though with opportunity has come production. Great chemistry with Cutler, unfortunately though he is the #2 TE behind Graham which does limit his snaps.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Is this in code or something? Are you saying he is similar to Heap? And has the relationship with Anderson that Witten has with Romo? I think that's a stretch on all accounts. He's decent but hasn't shown me anything in terms of RAC ability of Heap. Heap is an elite talent that just can't stay healthy. Scheffler is more like a mid-level talent IMO. More like a Randy McMichael or Eric Johnson.
Who's Anderson???The OP asked 2 questions....will Scheffler be an elite TE and what player will his productivity most resemble. Bloom answered Yes to Q #1 and Todd Heap to Q #2, adding the extra little tidbit that the relationship will be similar to the one Witten has with Romo.
Scheffler is a better physical talent than you think - he's got the same long frame and flexibility as Heap, but actually ran the 40 faster than Heap. Heap has better receiving instincts, but some of that is inexperience on the part of Scheffler. Scheffler is definitely a better talent than McMichael or Johnson, and strictly physically, he has better tools than Heap.
Warpig
Footballguy
I've been a Scheffler supporter since the '06 combine.Most people aren't aware that Schefflers combine numbers were comparable to those of Vernon Davis! Yet Davis gets all the love and to this point, I believe Scheffler has outproduced Davis.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Bloom is right.
As I posted somewhere in here earlier this season, there are many similarities between the Witten/Romo relationship and the Cutler/Scheffler relationship.
They both came into the league together.
They developed a working relationship and rapport from the start.
Have been roommates thru training camps.
Friends on and off the field.
Both TEs have great hands, and a QB that can get them the ball.
A young QB's best friend on the field is a solid TE that is always on the same page.
Scheffler may have been a little-known TE coming out of Western Michigan last year, but that won't last long.
He and Cutler should develop together nicely.
As far as how elite he may or may not become remains to be seen, but I wouldn't dare rule him out from becoming a Pro Bowl type TE. Especially with Cutler at QB. Their days will come.
As I posted somewhere in here earlier this season, there are many similarities between the Witten/Romo relationship and the Cutler/Scheffler relationship.
They both came into the league together.
They developed a working relationship and rapport from the start.
Have been roommates thru training camps.
Friends on and off the field.
Both TEs have great hands, and a QB that can get them the ball.
A young QB's best friend on the field is a solid TE that is always on the same page.
Scheffler may have been a little-known TE coming out of Western Michigan last year, but that won't last long.
He and Cutler should develop together nicely.
As far as how elite he may or may not become remains to be seen, but I wouldn't dare rule him out from becoming a Pro Bowl type TE. Especially with Cutler at QB. Their days will come.
zamboni
Footballguy
Seems like Scheffler should continue to improve, but, as someone noted earlier, I think the presence of Graham may limit his upside. To be sure, Graham was brought in more for his blocking abilities, but he seems to be involved in the passing game from time to time as well.
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Warpig
Footballguy
I agree that Graham is more of a blocker and always thought he would be a deterrent to Schefflers progress, but after looking at the numbers I'm not so sure of that.Graham has 13 receptions and zero TD's on the season so far. Scheffler has 10 receptions and 2 or 3 TD's even after missing the first 4 weeks. Granted, that's not a lot of catches but I suspect that'll gradually increase. And as far as I'm concerned, I can deal with 2 catches as long as 1 of those is a TD.
I think Scheffler has a good ability to find the soft spots in the zone and present himself as a trustworthy target for Cutler.
zamboni
Footballguy
The problem though is that TDs are unpredictable - targets are the key. One or two catches isn't going to cut it unless, as you say, the targets increase sizably. Or if he turns into the next Bubba Franks (of old) where every 1 yard TD goes to him. And that's tough to bank on.Graham has 13 receptions and zero TD's on the season so far. Scheffler has 10 receptions and 2 or 3 TD's even after missing the first 4 weeks. Granted, that's not a lot of catches but I suspect that'll gradually increase. And as far as I'm concerned, I can deal with 2 catches as long as 1 of those is a TD.
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He is a good play this week vs the weak Detroit secondary.The problem though is that TDs are unpredictable - targets are the key. One or two catches isn't going to cut it unless, as you say, the targets increase sizably. Or if he turns into the next Bubba Franks (of old) where every 1 yard TD goes to him. And that's tough to bank on.Graham has 13 receptions and zero TD's on the season so far. Scheffler has 10 receptions and 2 or 3 TD's even after missing the first 4 weeks. Granted, that's not a lot of catches but I suspect that'll gradually increase. And as far as I'm concerned, I can deal with 2 catches as long as 1 of those is a TD.
Not just that, it also works in the other direction - when the play breaks down, Cutler looks for Scheffler - so Scheffler knows how to find a good spot to sit down in, and Cutler automatically looks for Scheffler - look at the TD last week, this is almost exactly what happened. Same thing during Scheffler's 2 TD game late last year. The relationship off the field is a big part of the picture on the field - these guys have the mindmeld.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
You sure about this?The Moz said:
Gr00vus
Footballguy
The kid's good. When he's on the field he produces. His problem is staying on the field - he needs to stop getting injured so that the staff can get comfortable giving him a bigger role in the offense.
I don't care that Graham gets more plays because he blocks. He'll eventually be Brandon Manamaleuna to Scheffler's Gates (well the poor man's version anyway).
I don't care that Graham gets more plays because he blocks. He'll eventually be Brandon Manamaleuna to Scheffler's Gates (well the poor man's version anyway).
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I can see him having a few Top 6-7 seasons.
He's in a great situation in Denver too with great chemistry with Cutler from the onset of last year. Very little downside with him as the Broncos always look to the FB's and TE's on their goalline formations. The TD's will make up for any lack of yards.
I view him as a top of the line T2 right now, but he could easily be categorized as a TE1. (Nice TE numbers the last 3 weeks). If healthy, he'll be a TE1/Top 12 the rest of the year.
He's in a great situation in Denver too with great chemistry with Cutler from the onset of last year. Very little downside with him as the Broncos always look to the FB's and TE's on their goalline formations. The TD's will make up for any lack of yards.
I view him as a top of the line T2 right now, but he could easily be categorized as a TE1. (Nice TE numbers the last 3 weeks). If healthy, he'll be a TE1/Top 12 the rest of the year.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
FWIW Last 3 weeks:
1. 45. Davis, Vernon SFO TE 40 6.20 19.10 14.70
2. 53. Miller, Heath PIT TE 37.9 22.00 6.20 9.70
3. 55. Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 37.5 10.60 B 26.90
4. 56. Scheffler, Tony DEN TE 37.4 16.00 11.80 9.60
1. 45. Davis, Vernon SFO TE 40 6.20 19.10 14.70
2. 53. Miller, Heath PIT TE 37.9 22.00 6.20 9.70
3. 55. Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 37.5 10.60 B 26.90
4. 56. Scheffler, Tony DEN TE 37.4 16.00 11.80 9.60
Tanner9919
Footballguy
He's a slower version of Kyle Brady...
Scheffler is OK, but he's seeing a lot of action because of Javon Walker's injury.. I doubt he takes a step forward and becomes a top TE like Witten..
