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Can we discuss pet peeves here? (8 Viewers)

parasaurolophus said:
Where do people stand on the losers that just ask for a cup for water but then take soda? 
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while I think it is a crappy move....soda is where all these places make their cash (and on french fries) .....so I don't feel real sorry for them when some d-bags do this...between the cost of cup/ice/soda it costs these places about 5 cents for something they charge 1.50 or more give or take....that's why the buy one get one free things often include "with the purchase of a drink"....they try to recoup some of the cost of the BOGO by making you get that drink...

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
while I think it is a crappy move....soda is where all these places make their cash (and on french fries) .....so I don't feel real sorry for them when some d-bags do this...between the cost of cup/ice/soda it costs these places about 5 cents for something they charge 1.50 or more give or take....that's why the buy one get one free things often include "with the purchase of a drink"....they try to recoup some of the cost of the BOGO by making you get that drink...
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Stealing something so cheap is actually worse to me than stealing something of more value. It literally means their character isn't worth two bucks. 

 
parasaurolophus said:
Stealing something so cheap is actually worse to me than stealing something of more value. It literally means their character isn't worth two bucks. 
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Yeah, I hate the dudes at the convenience store who will fill their drink, then take 4 or 5 sips, fill it again to the top, and then take 2 or 3 more sips, and then fill it to the top. All the while people are standing there waiting.

I probably posted about this one already somewhere in this thread. Hate those fookers.  :lol:

 
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parasaurolophus said:
Stealing something so cheap is actually worse to me than stealing something of more value. It literally means their character isn't worth two bucks. 
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well....while they are only "stealing" 5 cents of product it's value is actually $1.50 or more to the consumer....soda is not cheap at FF places.....in fact if the FF places didn't feel the need to rape you on the cost of the soda and charged you something somewhat close to the cost, say 50 cents, which is still a huge mark up....people might go ahead and pay for it and not steal it....I realize than the costs of the other products would have to go up to account for the margin lost but consumers don't look at it that when hitting the soda lever instead of the water lever...also part of the price the FF places decided to pay when they had customers go get their own drinks....

kind of along the same lines of golf courses that charge you $20 give or take for a 6 pack of beer and they wonder why people sneak their own booze on to the course....if they decided to lower their prices, people might not sneak it on and they would at least still get some of the public's money instead of none....

 
Stinkin Ref said:
well....while they are only "stealing" 5 cents of product it's value is actually $1.50 or more to the consumer....soda is not cheap at FF places.....in fact if the FF places didn't feel the need to rape you on the cost of the soda and charged you something somewhat close to the cost, say 50 cents, which is still a huge mark up....people might go ahead and pay for it and not steal it....I realize than the costs of the other products would have to go up to account for the margin lost but consumers don't look at it that when hitting the soda lever instead of the water lever...also part of the price the FF places decided to pay when they had customers go get their own drinks....

kind of along the same lines of golf courses that charge you $20 give or take for a 6 pack of beer and they wonder why people sneak their own booze on to the course....if they decided to lower their prices, people might not sneak it on and they would at least still get some of the public's money instead of none....
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Bringing your own alcohol onto a course isn't the same as sneaking into the snack bar and stealing some. If it was illegal (which I know it is in most states) I wouldn't do it still, but I definitely hold people that do it in different regard than thieves. If for no other reason than I bet most people don't know it is actually illegal. 

If people brought in their own soda into a fast food place(which is not illegal as far as I know), I wouldn't have any problems with it. I carried my gatorade into a del taco last week. I had just finished hiking in the desert and didn't want to drink soda. 

ETA: There are all sorts of other levels to this too. For example if people carry their own booze on and the course marshal asks at the first tee "Are any of you carrying alcohol on the course?" and he explains the law clearly and says you will be kicked off the course and reported to police so please go put it back in your car now, I would fully expect anybody in my group to own up to it and put it back. I would be pretty pissed if they lied and put my fee in jeopardy so they could booze it up.

 
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parasaurolophus said:
Bringing your own alcohol onto a course isn't the same as sneaking into the snack bar and stealing some. If it was illegal (which I know it is in most states) I wouldn't do it still, but I definitely hold people that do it in different regard than thieves. If for no other reason than I bet most people don't know it is actually illegal. 

If people brought in their own soda into a fast food place(which is not illegal as far as I know), I wouldn't have any problems with it. I carried my gatorade into a del taco last week. I had just finished hiking in the desert and didn't want to drink soda. 

ETA: There are all sorts of other levels to this too. For example if people carry their own booze on and the course marshal asks at the first tee "Are any of you carrying alcohol on the course?" and he explains the law clearly and says you will be kicked off the course and reported to police so please go put it back in your car now, I would fully expect anybody in my group to own up to it and put it back. I would be pretty pissed if they lied and put my fee in jeopardy so they could booze it up.
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yeah...my point wasn't really about the stealing/not stealing....huge difference there....mostly that both take it to the extreme in terms of gouging you on the profit margin for those items....and I look at a FF place and a golf course a little different than I do attending a concert or a ball game etc. where the prices are jacked up....

I can actually give the FF places a little more slack than I can the golf course...I know that if they didn't charge me 1.50 for a 5 cent soda that the price of the hamburger would go up....

the golf course on the other hand that charges you $4 for a 12 oz can of beer (give or take and including/not including tip) is just asking their customers to sneak on the booze, even though it is "illegal"....I feel I would be financially irresponsible if I didn't sneak my own booze on and paid those prices....just not good business for the course or their best employees, the golf cart girls....those are the ladies that should be really pissed.....those prices are costing them a lot of money....I haven't put together the numbers but charge $2 instead of $4 and you probably sell twice as much and end up making just as much because you are getting some money instead of zero....including the cart girl, who now gets more volume/stops and continuous business instead of groups telling her "we are good for now" or we just need the "mixer" of some sort so we'll buy a soda....I don't see courses raising green fees cause they aren't selling enough 12 packs....and they sure as hell aren't going to lower them if people buy more booze...

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
yeah...my point wasn't really about the stealing/not stealing....huge difference there....mostly that both take it to the extreme in terms of gouging you on the profit margin for those items....and I look at a FF place and a golf course a little different than I do attending a concert or a ball game etc. where the prices are jacked up....

I can actually give the FF places a little more slack than I can the golf course...I know that if they didn't charge me 1.50 for a 5 cent soda that the price of the hamburger would go up....

the golf course on the other hand that charges you $4 for a 12 oz can of beer (give or take and including/not including tip) is just asking their customers to sneak on the booze, even though it is "illegal"....I feel I would be financially irresponsible if I didn't sneak my own booze on and paid those prices....just not good business for the course or their best employees, the golf cart girls....those are the ladies that should be really pissed.....those prices are costing them a lot of money....I haven't put together the numbers but charge $2 instead of $4 and you probably sell twice as much and end up making just as much because you are getting some money instead of zero....including the cart girl, who now gets more volume/stops and continuous business instead of groups telling her "we are good for now" or we just need the "mixer" of some sort so we'll buy a soda....I don't see courses raising green fees cause they aren't selling enough 12 packs....and they sure as hell aren't going to lower them if people buy more booze...
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If they charged half as much for a beer and sold twice as much they would come out way behind. Especially if they are in a two step distribution state.

 
At least 5 times a day on Twitter I'll see a post from ESPN/NBA/NFL/SI etc. describing something that someone did as "savage".    The word has lost all meaning to me now

 
Typing.  Like.  This.

One of the social media turdgoblins from ESPN does this all the time on Twitter and Facebook.

So.  Dumb.

 
This happened to me again today like so many other days in my office.  I took the elevator down to the first floor today.  The doors open and some guy doesn’t see me apparently and starts walking into the elevator.  He then sees me getting out and continues to walk by me into the elevator.  This happened in the doorway.  Wtf does this?  I don’t work on Wall Street so no real hurry.  So weird.  It’s happened to me many times.  Love the folks that assume the elevator is always empty coming down to the first floor right after lunch.  Freakin lunch.  We don’t have contraflow elevators.  They seem upset that someone is in the elevator.  Then you have to veer around the herd standing right in front of the doors.  There are 4 elevators.  Waiting is for the weak evidently. Ugh.

 
Osaurus said:
This happened to me again today like so many other days in my office.  I took the elevator down to the first floor today.  The doors open and some guy doesn’t see me apparently and starts walking into the elevator.  He then sees me getting out and continues to walk by me into the elevator.  This happened in the doorway.  Wtf does this?  I don’t work on Wall Street so no real hurry.  So weird.  It’s happened to me many times.  Love the folks that assume the elevator is always empty coming down to the first floor right after lunch.  Freakin lunch.  We don’t have contraflow elevators.  They seem upset that someone is in the elevator.  Then you have to veer around the herd standing right in front of the doors.  There are 4 elevators.  Waiting is for the weak evidently. Ugh.
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Arm bar to the sternum for that guy as I exit the Elevator.

 
Osaurus said:
This happened to me again today like so many other days in my office.  I took the elevator down to the first floor today.  The doors open and some guy doesn’t see me apparently and starts walking into the elevator.  He then sees me getting out and continues to walk by me into the elevator.  This happened in the doorway.  Wtf does this?  I don’t work on Wall Street so no real hurry.  So weird.  It’s happened to me many times.  Love the folks that assume the elevator is always empty coming down to the first floor right after lunch.  Freakin lunch.  We don’t have contraflow elevators.  They seem upset that someone is in the elevator.  Then you have to veer around the herd standing right in front of the doors.  There are 4 elevators.  Waiting is for the weak evidently. Ugh.
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Drop a shoulder and exit the elevator as God intended.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
The traffic ones reminded me of one.....idiots who blast their music in their car.....never understood this....at some point it is just too loud, does music really sound better when it is blasting so loud you can barely stand it...is it like a “cool” thing...do people think chicks did it or something....anyway, couldn’t take it anymore one day and had a group of gang banger/thug types doig the whole blast the music thing...the kind where the bass actually vibrates my car....decided I had enough one day as a group was next to me....so while we were at the light side by side, their bass vibrating my car, I just laid on my horn the entire time.....just looked over at them as it obviously “bothered” them.....gave them the “whats up” head nod and just sat there blasting my horn.....made me feel better as I drove off....but probably lucky I didn’t get shot....
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Super King said:
Did they get off your lawn after that?
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:lmao:   I thought the same thing, what a kook.

 
Osaurus said:
This happened to me again today like so many other days in my office.  I took the elevator down to the first floor today.  The doors open and some guy doesn’t see me apparently and starts walking into the elevator.  He then sees me getting out and continues to walk by me into the elevator.  This happened in the doorway.  Wtf does this?  I don’t work on Wall Street so no real hurry.  So weird.  It’s happened to me many times.  Love the folks that assume the elevator is always empty coming down to the first floor right after lunch.  Freakin lunch.  We don’t have contraflow elevators.  They seem upset that someone is in the elevator.  Then you have to veer around the herd standing right in front of the doors.  There are 4 elevators.  Waiting is for the weak evidently. Ugh.
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Why not just take the stairs and get healthy?

 
comfortably numb said:
I'm with ya.... till the end.

The point of a drive through is to not have to get out of your car. So I pull up 1 car length check my stuff, find a mistake now I have to get out walk back squeeze in between your car and the drive through window to say excuse me I didn't order the fish sandwich.  Then they're gonna tell me to pull away into a spot and they will come out...or if you check your stuff and a mistake was made now I have to go park my car...take my 2 kids out of the car. We all walk inside to a crowded restaurant where you have to flag a server's attention and then tell them the mistake? No thanks.

FTR I never check my order. My wife will always check it only if we ordered something for my daughter. She is the plain hamburger person who 20-40% of the time gets a burger with stuff on it where it has to be returned. She will quickly find the lone burger unwrap and drive away.
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IMO, this is just the risk we take seeking the convenience of getting fast food without getting out of the car. Most of the time, it works just fine. When it doesn't, it's going to be a mild annoyance either way. 
I'm not talking about walking back to the drive thru window, btw. That's not really allowed at most places anyway, and if you do it, you're screwing with the person currently at the window. Once you've been handed your food, imo, your time at the drive thru is done. It's on to the next customer so we can keep this train rolling. If there's an issue, and you care enough to make it right, imo there are only two options. Walk inside (parked either well ahead of the drive thru window when there's room so as not to screw with the traffic, or in a parking spot). I've never found it very difficult to get attention when doing this. When they see you walk inside with a bag in your hands, they tend to know what just happen and get on it right away. Or if getting out of the car is something you are determined not to do, you drive back around get back in the terrible drive thru line and wait your turn again.

 
pollardsvision said:
IMO, this is just the risk we take seeking the convenience of getting fast food without getting out of the car. Most of the time, it works just fine. When it doesn't, it's going to be a mild annoyance either way. 
I'm not talking about walking back to the drive thru window, btw. That's not really allowed at most places anyway, and if you do it, you're screwing with the person currently at the window. Once you've been handed your food, imo, your time at the drive thru is done. It's on to the next customer so we can keep this train rolling. If there's an issue, and you care enough to make it right, imo there are only two options. Walk inside (parked either well ahead of the drive thru window when there's room so as not to screw with the traffic, or in a parking spot). I've never found it very difficult to get attention when doing this. When they see you walk inside with a bag in your hands, they tend to know what just happen and get on it right away. Or if getting out of the car is something you are determined not to do, you drive back around get back in the terrible drive thru line and wait your turn again.
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Eh, more I think about the more I think someone checking to make sure their order is right part of the customer process.

When they hand you your change back do you check it? If you are short $10 are you letting them know or parking and going inside? Exactly. Food should be no difference 

The bolded part did make me chuckle. In my experiences both going back in or seeing people come back in you have to get the attention of the employee. Maybe my area is a lot busier but I've never seen any worker notice and take the lead on someone who looks like they came from the outside drive through with a bag in their hand.

 
nirad3 said:
Typing.  Like.  This.

One of the social media turdgoblins from ESPN does this all the time on Twitter and Facebook.

So.  Dumb.
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Yup.  Similar in meaning and jump-screaming-off-cliff-inducing is the use of "full stop" after an authoritative declamation. 

I'm sure I'm nuts, but when something types something and fails to qualify it with a statement of uncertainly, lack of knowledge, etc., I assume they believe it and don't need.  Any.  Further.  Evidence.  Full go!  

 
Osaurus said:
This happened to me again today like so many other days in my office.  I took the elevator down to the first floor today.  The doors open and some guy doesn’t see me apparently and starts walking into the elevator.  He then sees me getting out and continues to walk by me into the elevator.  This happened in the doorway.  Wtf does this?  I don’t work on Wall Street so no real hurry.  So weird.  It’s happened to me many times.  Love the folks that assume the elevator is always empty coming down to the first floor right after lunch.  Freakin lunch.  We don’t have contraflow elevators.  They seem upset that someone is in the elevator.  Then you have to veer around the herd standing right in front of the doors.  There are 4 elevators.  Waiting is for the weak evidently. Ugh.
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I often see people rush to get on elevators even though they're looking straight ahead with their eyes open.  Still no reason to let those already on the elevator get off first, I guess. 

 
How about people that swerve all the way into the other lane as they pass a biker? The law here says give them 3 feet. I think that's a bit tight, but they don't need 14 feet either. I shouldn't have to hit my brakes because you are coming at me in my lane and I actually cant even veer right to avoid you.

 
comfortably numb said:
Eh, more I think about the more I think someone checking to make sure their order is right part of the customer process.

When they hand you your change back do you check it? If you are short $10 are you letting them know or parking and going inside? Exactly. Food should be no difference 

The bolded part did make me chuckle. In my experiences both going back in or seeing people come back in you have to get the attention of the employee. Maybe my area is a lot busier but I've never seen any worker notice and take the lead on someone who looks like they came from the outside drive through with a bag in their hand.
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I agree with this (bolded) 100%...I think the expectation is that everyone gets that 3-5 seconds it takes to check your order...and if its not right, you get to stay there until it is...at some point the pressure/expectation has to be put on the employees to get it right the first time....if everybody just pulls away and comes and walks back in to address a wrong order....they really learn nothing cause all they do is fix it and you walk back out....they really don't care about you being inconvenienced and having to walk in....they do however care about the drive thru getting backed up and them missing their expected transaction time/clock that is present in every drive thru and often has a beeping noise or something going off if they are taking too long....

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
I agree with this (bolded) 100%...I think the expectation is that everyone gets that 3-5 seconds it takes to check your order...and if its not right, you get to stay there until it is...at some point the pressure/expectation has to be put on the employees to get it right the first time....if everybody just pulls away and comes and walks back in to address a wrong order....they really learn nothing cause all they do is fix it and you walk back out....they really don't care about you being inconvenienced and having to walk in....they do however care about the drive thru getting backed up and them missing their expected transaction time/clock that is present in every drive thru and often has a beeping noise or something going off if they are taking too long....
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I have no issues with check to make sure everything looks right and is accounted for.  That takes a few seconds.   I'm not unwrapping everything to make sure there are no onions etc

 
comfortably numb said:
Eh, more I think about the more I think someone checking to make sure their order is right part of the customer process.

When they hand you your change back do you check it? If you are short $10 are you letting them know or parking and going inside? Exactly. Food should be no difference 

The bolded part did make me chuckle. In my experiences both going back in or seeing people come back in you have to get the attention of the employee. Maybe my area is a lot busier but I've never seen any worker notice and take the lead on someone who looks like they came from the outside drive through with a bag in their hand.
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If it's quick, sure. I'm talking about the people that spend forever checking. 

I think this whole process might be why I really don't deal with fast food anymore. It sounds convenient in theory, but being stuck in line behind somebody ordering for an army of people who haven't made up their mind just yet then watching them hog up the window for minutes after the bags got passed through the window started happening with some frequency. Or maybe I just started noticing it more.  

It's relatively quick and more enjoyable to go home, pop a beer, light some charcoal, pop another beer, and throw some burgers on the grill. 

 
Sister Jean. My gawd, make it stop. The Final Four being in SA likely isn't helping. But we see her at least a dozen times a day. Makes me want to kick a puppy.

 
parasaurolophus said:
My wife got mad at me tonight when i said i was sick of sister jean. So happy i  not alone.
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I'm not exaggerating. With the final four being here, we see her no less than a dozen times a day. I just wrote the local FOX news sportscaster and asked how much I'd have to "contribute" to make it stop. Looking forward to his response.

You... are... not... alone.

 
DallasDMac said:
Sister Jean. My gawd, make it stop. The Final Four being in SA likely isn't helping. But we see her at least a dozen times a day. Makes me want to kick a puppy.
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deal with the devil - she will go up in a poof of smoke when they lose while screaming "I'm melting!!".

 
comfortably numb said:
Eh, more I think about the more I think someone checking to make sure their order is right part of the customer process.

When they hand you your change back do you check it? If you are short $10 are you letting them know or parking and going inside? Exactly. Food should be no difference 

The bolded part did make me chuckle. In my experiences both going back in or seeing people come back in you have to get the attention of the employee. Maybe my area is a lot busier but I've never seen any worker notice and take the lead on someone who looks like they came from the outside drive through with a bag in their hand.
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From personal experience, McDonalds will just call you a liar if they shortchange you.  I don't remember how much it was anymore, 3 or 4 bucks, so not a big deal, but it just really annoyed me when they made me wait outside while they counted their drawer and said it was $10 short, so I must be lying.  Called corporate office and got the same story.  Well, the drawer being short doesn't prove you didn't screw up more than once.  It just proves your employees need to graduate 5th grade.  Now, give em their $15 an hour,  They have clearly earned it.

So, that was a couple years ago and I said I would never go back to McD, and I didn't until last week.  I was so hungry and it was the only thing convenient open late on my way home, so I decided to give them another chance.  Just need a little bit, so I order a QP meal SMALL.  Guy comes back over the intercom and tells me thay can't do value meals in small.  WTF?  So, I'm back on my boycott and I think it will stick this time.  Just a stupidly run company all around.

 
Bull Dozier said:
This is a local issue, but may happen at other malls as well.  The local mall has a route circling the mall where you enter off the main road, then can drive around the mall to get into the parking lot for the area of the mall you want to park near.  Fairly common.  It's a two way road, so the traffic coming from the main road to this circular route can turn right or left.  To not block traffic, these cars do not have to stop.  The traffic on the inner circular route have to stop.  People seem to think it is an all way stop, so cars coming in from the main road stop and wait for the cars on the inner route to go, which of course they won't since they don't know when the car with the right of way will realize it and will end up going.  Not only is their ignorance frustrating, but it makes it really difficult to get around.  Each stop sign is an adventure.
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EP mall?  Yeah we own a business right outside of there. Drives me ####### crazy. Typical Minnesotans. You don’t have to stop but somehow people seem to feel guilty about it. 

Also people driving on that circle road like it’s ####### Tokyo Drift. 

 
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Jobber said:
Able bodied people opening doors with the handicap button. And don’t try to tell me it’s for germ purposes because if you do this you are probably the same guy who strolls out of the bathroom stall and walks right by the sink.
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What about a family with 3 small kids?  I use the handicap door button wherever I go cause getting a 9, 7 and 2 year old through a set of double doors is the most difficult thing humanity has ever had to do. 

 
Love that guy who calls 5 minutes after sending an e-mail.  "Uh, erm, uh, not sure if you got my e-mail but..."

My standard response, "Oh, no, what e-mail?  I haven't seen a thing.  When did you send it?  We better get IT on this now! Oh, wait, here it is.  Looks like you JUST sent it?  OK, I'll read it and e-mail you back.  Click".

 
People who congregate/stand in the middle of a waiting area where others are clearly trying to get through. Like leaving a restaurant or after a school concert or church service and 12 people are standing in the middle of the foyer talking and laughing and you have to push through them. Somehow they give you the stink eye like it’s your ####### fault they’re in your way. 

And IKEA - oh my ####### goodness I can’t even go there anymore. 

 
Pennies - they're worthless and I hate them.  My goal is to die penniless.  Why do we even use them? Just round to the nearest nickel, like those smart folks in Canada.

And while I'm at it, why do we still use the $1 bill?  I know we've tried a dollar coin before and some idiots couldn't differentiate between it and a quarter. There's no 1 euro bill and they manage quite well. The only real downside to eliminating the dollar bill is how to tip in a "gentleman's" club, amirite?

 
Ron Swanson said:
Love that guy who calls 5 minutes after sending an e-mail.  "Uh, erm, uh, not sure if you got my e-mail but..."

My standard response, "Oh, no, what e-mail?  I haven't seen a thing.  When did you send it?  We better get IT on this now! Oh, wait, here it is.  Looks like you JUST sent it?  OK, I'll read it and e-mail you back.  Click".
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can you imagine a guy who sends an email and then IMMEDIATELY walks 10 feet to your desk to tell you all about what he just emailed you????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?????!!!#?@?@?@!@@?!?#?$!?!?

cause i can

 
ComfortablyNumb said:
Pennies - they're worthless and I hate them.  My goal is to die penniless.  Why do we even use them? Just round to the nearest nickel, like those smart folks in Canada.

And while I'm at it, why do we still use the $1 bill?  I know we've tried a dollar coin before and some idiots couldn't differentiate between it and a quarter. There's no 1 euro bill and they manage quite well. The only real downside to eliminating the dollar bill is how to tip in a "gentleman's" club, amirite?
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I think the easy answer for the penny conundrum is to make the penny only electronic.  Round up to the nearest nickel for any cash transaction but leave ti in place for electronic transactions.  This could be a roadmap for the future with issues like the dollar bill as well.

 
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