can we get a scouting report of Corey Bradford? (1 Viewer)

[hollaatyaboy]

I hear from some news sources and people that he "has so much potential". I never heard of him until he made some (very limited) noise in HOU and now has opp to be the #2 in the Martz system.

So, I ask you guys:

Acting like he is a new player coming to the league, let's here a scouting report. tangibles? intangibles?

 

[coolnerd]

I am quoting myslef from a Mike Williams thread

...but having watched Bradford 4 for years, he is an average overall talent. He has great straighline speed and will have two or three really nice games because of it. His hands are average at best and he does not run sharp routes. He will produce more in Detriot as much due to the nature of the offense if he continues to be the number 2 or at least the speed guy, not because he is a talent waiting for the proper opportunity. Is he worth drafting really late or picking up on a waiver wire? Yes. Is he going to be the veteran break out WR for 2006? I doubt it.

 

[prymetyme25]

I hear from some news sources and people that he "has so much potential". I never heard of him until he made some (very limited) noise in HOU and now has opp to be the #2 in the Martz system.

So, I ask you guys:

Acting like he is a new player coming to the league, let's here a scouting report. tangibles? intangibles?

As a Texans fan I can tell you he has no potential. and no heart also

 

[Lauryn]

he's trash... anyone who's played this game for any amount of time should know that by now.

to edit: just so i don't get accused of not being helpful, he is the kind of player who will score 2 TD with 90 yds one week out of nowhere when he's on your bench. so you chase that performance and possibly start him the next 2-3 weeks and he gives you 1-2 catch 20-35 yd games. then you bench him or cut him outright and he ends up with a long TD catch. an inconsistent tease and no more than a desperation bye-week plug-in.

 

[GregR_2]

Runs fast.

Can't catch.

 

[Jon_Moore]

After so many years in the league, I don't feel like he has any "potential." He could have some fantasy success given the offense, perhaps a nice late round flyer, but not someone I would want to count on week in and week out.

 

[R.White]

Bradford News on FBG's News Blogger

From recent workout...

June 13, 2006, 17:39

Lions :: WR

WR Bradford Has Been A Work Horse

Chrissie Zavicar, DetroitLions.com - [Full Article]

Since HC Rod Marinelli arrived in Detroit, he has been focused on creating the right attitude among his players. He has stressed the importance of “team” and has done all he can to find passionate and driven players to further build the foundation. He was looking for exactly the right pieces to fit the Lions’ puzzle. One such piece is WR Corey Bradford; a big-play receiver who holds incredible speed and a drive to succeed. With a nose-to-the grindstone attitude, Bradford will be an important component of the Lions highly-dynamic offense.

Take it for what it's worth. He is getting more routes/looks in Martz offense, and has stood out thus far. Although most receivers would stand out in the Lions' offense.

RW

 

[David Yudkin]

Here's the problem as I see it. A Martz offense is probably good for 4,000 passing yards. And the question is where is it going to come from. Obviously Roy Williams is going to get his share, but where's the other 3,000 yards going to go?

Mike Williams and Charles Rogers are in the doghouse. Scottie Vines will be in the mix but and might get some catches but not a ton of yards or TD. Several other WR are fighting for backup roles

After Roy Williams with 8, Marcus Pollard ranked second on the team in TD catches with 3. No one else had more than 1 TD reception.

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

 

[BoltBacker]

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

To start with I think Roy Williams gets more than 1000 yards. Another large chunk of passing yards could go to Kevin Jones if he is indeed a 3-down back this year as most people expect. I project both to do better than most people and they could very easily combine for the high teens. 1900(1300/600 or 1400/500) is within reach.Bradford/Vines/Williams/Rogers/Pollard getting around 2000 yards between the five of them. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top guy in that group gets less than 700 yards.

 

[David Yudkin]

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

To start with I think Roy Williams gets more than 1000 yards. Another large chunk of passing yards could go to Kevin Jones if he is indeed a 3-down back this year as most people expect. I project both to do better than most people and they could very easily combine for the high teens. 1900(1300/600 or 1400/500) is within reach.Bradford/Vines/Williams/Rogers/Pollard getting around 2000 yards between the five of them. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top guy in that group gets less than 700 yards.

Martz' offenses at times have gone WAY over 4,000 passing yards--with a range of 4,200 up to 5,500.Williams should get more than 1,000 and maybe he and Jones do total 1,900. Another 2,600 would not be out of the question (but I'd be leary to project them too high).

Dodds has the Lions projected at 3,340, which is IMO far too low given the history of the system being implemented. Maybe the thought process is that it will take time to get the offense up and running and it won't happen this year.

 

[BoltBacker]

Dodds has the Lions projected at 3,340, which is IMO far too low given the history of the system being implemented. Maybe the thought process is that it will take time to get the offense up and running and it won't happen this year.

I think the truth is somewhere in between what you are saying and Dodds is saying. Sure Martz has racked up as much as 5000+ in the past.... but that was with a group that was much, much more talented than this bunch.

 

[jerseys finest]

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

To start with I think Roy Williams gets more than 1000 yards. Another large chunk of passing yards could go to Kevin Jones if he is indeed a 3-down back this year as most people expect. I project both to do better than most people and they could very easily combine for the high teens. 1900(1300/600 or 1400/500) is within reach.Bradford/Vines/Williams/Rogers/Pollard getting around 2000 yards between the five of them. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top guy in that group gets less than 700 yards.

Martz' offenses at times have gone WAY over 4,000 passing yards--with a range of 4,200 up to 5,500.Williams should get more than 1,000 and maybe he and Jones do total 1,900. Another 2,600 would not be out of the question (but I'd be leary to project them too high).

Dodds has the Lions projected at 3,340, which is IMO far too low given the history of the system being implemented. Maybe the thought process is that it will take time to get the offense up and running and it won't happen this year.

Thats the way im seeing it.. I know Martz's systems have put up some huge numbers, but those were with championship caliber players all around with the Rams. Everyone was on the same page and were one cohesive unit for a while before that system put up those incredible numbers.. I feel like the offense is going to be better this year in Detroit, but nothing like what he had with the Rams in the late 90's.. My projections would be for receiving..Kevin jones - 500 yards, 4 Tds

Roy Williams - 1100 yards, 7 Tds

Between Bradford/BMW/Pollard/Vines/Rogers/Drummand - 1900 yards, 14 Tds

for a rough total of around 3600 yards/25 Td's..

 

[Chase Stuart]

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

To start with I think Roy Williams gets more than 1000 yards. Another large chunk of passing yards could go to Kevin Jones if he is indeed a 3-down back this year as most people expect. I project both to do better than most people and they could very easily combine for the high teens. 1900(1300/600 or 1400/500) is within reach.Bradford/Vines/Williams/Rogers/Pollard getting around 2000 yards between the five of them. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top guy in that group gets less than 700 yards.

Martz' offenses at times have gone WAY over 4,000 passing yards--with a range of 4,200 up to 5,500.Williams should get more than 1,000 and maybe he and Jones do total 1,900. Another 2,600 would not be out of the question (but I'd be leary to project them too high).

Dodds has the Lions projected at 3,340, which is IMO far too low given the history of the system being implemented. Maybe the thought process is that it will take time to get the offense up and running and it won't happen this year.

Martz has had quite the career.In 1998, he was the QB coach when second year, 8th round draft pick Trent Green had 23 TDs and 11 INTs.

In 1997, he was the QB coach and Gus Frerotte made the Pro Bowl.

In 1996, he was the WR coach and rookie Eddie Kennison had 924 yards. The next two years (without Martz) Kennison was a bum.

In 1995, he was the WR coach when Isaac Bruce had 1,781 receiving yards, the second highest single season total ever.

In 1994, he was the QB coach when Chris Miller and Chris Chandler helped the Rams rank 7th in YPA.

Martz has a sparkling resume, often with lesser talent. And we know he can do just about anything if you give him the talent.

 

[Chase Stuart]

So the question again is . . . who is going to get all this receiving production?

To start with I think Roy Williams gets more than 1000 yards. Another large chunk of passing yards could go to Kevin Jones if he is indeed a 3-down back this year as most people expect. I project both to do better than most people and they could very easily combine for the high teens. 1900(1300/600 or 1400/500) is within reach.Bradford/Vines/Williams/Rogers/Pollard getting around 2000 yards between the five of them. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top guy in that group gets less than 700 yards.

Martz' offenses at times have gone WAY over 4,000 passing yards--with a range of 4,200 up to 5,500.Williams should get more than 1,000 and maybe he and Jones do total 1,900. Another 2,600 would not be out of the question (but I'd be leary to project them too high).

Dodds has the Lions projected at 3,340, which is IMO far too low given the history of the system being implemented. Maybe the thought process is that it will take time to get the offense up and running and it won't happen this year.

Thats the way im seeing it.. I know Martz's systems have put up some huge numbers, but those were with championship caliber players all around with the Rams. Everyone was on the same page and were one cohesive unit for a while before that system put up those incredible numbers.. I feel like the offense is going to be better this year in Detroit, but nothing like what he had with the Rams in the late 90's.. My projections would be for receiving..Kevin jones - 500 yards, 4 Tds

Roy Williams - 1100 yards, 7 Tds

Between Bradford/BMW/Pollard/Vines/Rogers/Drummand - 1900 yards, 14 Tds

for a rough total of around 3600 yards/25 Td's..

I like Kevin Jones, but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he can get 500 receiving yards. The same could also be said of Roy Williams, who has averaged 752 receiving yards per year.Bryson should be a big beneficiary IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if he came out with a big boost this year. He's got soft hands and should impress Martz with his jack of all trades ability. Roy Williams and his stone hands, (4th worst drop percentage) are another question.

 

[BoltBacker]

I like Kevin Jones, but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he can get 500 receiving yards. The same could also be said of Roy Williams, who has averaged 752 receiving yards per year.

If you're being pulled off the field on third downs it's certainly much more difficult to demonstrate you can get 500 receiving yards. From most reports this offseason Jones will be used on third downs this season....http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/lions/index.html

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_displ...ument_id=445200

I'll admit Roy Williams may never have the best hands in the NFL but he's only been in the NFL for two years, should have a more solid QB playing for him, will have a much better offensive system going for him this season and is surrounded by bigger disappointments at WR than he is. He seems to be in the perfect situationg to see a huge spike in his #'s.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I like Kevin Jones, but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he can get 500 receiving yards. The same could also be said of Roy Williams, who has averaged 752 receiving yards per year.

If you're being pulled off the field on third downs it's certainly much more difficult to demonstrate you can get 500 receiving yards. From most reports this offseason Jones will be used on third downs this season....http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/lions/index.html

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_displ...ument_id=445200

I'll admit Roy Williams may never have the best hands in the NFL but he's only been in the NFL for two years, should have a more solid QB playing for him, will have a much better offensive system going for him this season and is surrounded by bigger disappointments at WR than he is. He seems to be in the perfect situationg to see a huge spike in his #'s.

I think your thoughts on Roy are pretty accurate. I'm not sure what I think of Jon Kitna, but the last time I saw him he was trying to impersonate Vince Young. I agree there's talk about using Jones more this year, but I'm not convinced. He's probably not a better third down player than Bryson, which is why he wasn't the third down back before. We'll see if that's changed.

Jones and Williams are loaded with talent, but they've were loaded with talent when they underachieved last year too.

 

[shadyridr]

Hell get 1 catch for 30 yds a game. Undraftable

 

[jerseys finest]

Hell get 1 catch for 30 yds a game. Undraftable

who exactly are u talking about...

 

[Ron_Mexico]

There are a lot of cooks in the Lions WR kitchen.

ROY

Bradford

Rogers

BMW

Vines

I can't see Bradford ever becoming a viable WR option.

 

[imeimex]

I wouldn't sleep on Bradford. He has been playing in an offense that has made one of the most talented Wide Receivers in the league, Andre Johnson, look ordinary. I see Bradford fitting in well with this offense and I would compare him to a Kevin Curtis type that has value in a start 3 WR league. I have not watched Bradford closely since he left the Packers, but the speed with poor hands is what I saw from him while he was in Green Bay. It seems like Bradfords speed will fit nicely in the Martz offense that has Wide Receivers flying everywhere, and while he will never be a high catch guy I think he can make some big plays that will lead to some inconsistency for fantasy teams.