Canseco has new book with stuff on Arod (1 Viewer)

[tikigods]

Canseco told WEEI-Radio in Boston on Friday that he has "other stuff" on the Yankees slugger, who he called a "hypocrite" who "was not all he appeared to be."

When asked if A-Rod had used steroids, Canseco told WEEI, "Wait and see."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2953302

 

[greenroom]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true.

What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

 

[tikigods]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

 

[shadyridr]

When did Jose ever play with ARod?

 

[tikigods]

When did Jose ever play with ARod?

Here is the whole interview:Canseco on WEEI

He talks about A-Rod at about 20 minutes in

 

[Jules Winnfield]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

 

[daddo39]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I think America already knows it. I think our problem with Bonds is what & whose record is being broken. Aaron is one of the greatest hitters EVER and the Homerun record is probably the most hallowed in ALL of pro sports.

 

[Steelnation]

Can you say MARKETING?

 

[The Man from Laramie]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

 

[parasaurolophus]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

If Arod did in fact juice and then stopped wouldnt that make a case that the juice isnt as big of a difference maker that everybody says it is?

 

[The Man from Laramie]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

If Arod did in fact juice and then stopped wouldnt that make a case that the juice isnt as big of a difference maker that everybody says it is?

I'm getting tired of saying this, the big gripe with Bonds is that he excelled at an age where no one else is able to do so, and he had seen a decline in his skills up to that age.I don't think steroids have the largest effect on players, but I also think the extent of the effect vaires, and that there's no way Bonds, or anyone for that matter, plays better ball when they're 38 than when they're 28 without artificial enhancement.

 

[parasaurolophus]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

If Arod did in fact juice and then stopped wouldnt that make a case that the juice isnt as big of a difference maker that everybody says it is?

I'm getting tired of saying this, the big gripe with Bonds is that he excelled at an age where no one else is able to do so, and he had seen a decline in his skills up to that age.I don't think steroids have the largest effect on players, but I also think the extent of the effect vaires, and that there's no way Bonds, or anyone for that matter, plays better ball when they're 38 than when they're 28 without artificial enhancement.

why would arod play the same ball then juiced or unjuiced?Those two arguments dont really belong together.You cant say Arod played the same juiced and unjuiced, but Bonds played a ton better. That just doesnt follow logic.

 

[Peyton Marino]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

If Arod did in fact juice and then stopped wouldnt that make a case that the juice isnt as big of a difference maker that everybody says it is?

the muscle mass you build from steroids doesn't magically disappear after you stop taking them.

 

[The Man from Laramie]

why would arod play the same ball then juiced or unjuiced?Those two arguments dont really belong together.You cant say Arod played the same juiced and unjuiced, but Bonds played a ton better. That just doesnt follow logic.

Yes it does. I said steroids affect people differently. It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to think it might help older guys more than young guys, since young guy's bodies don't break down so easily in the first place. Whatever BALCO put together might have been more effective than other steroids people were taking as well.To pretend that steroids might add a certain fixed number of HRs to every player is ludicrous.

 

[shadyridr]

But I am sure people will trash Jose again. Even thou his first book ended up being pretty true. What is America going to do when they find out that the majority of Baseball players used the juice and not just Bonds.

I read his first book and he exposed a lot of what we now know as truth even though he was trashed pretty hard for it. One thing a lot of people should realize is that a lot of pitchers were just as juiced as hitters.

Umm...Clemens anyone?

I would be surprised if Clemens never took anything. My general inclination is to believe that an overwhelming majority of players were on something, but...there does exist a lot of evidence pointing to a much smaller problem than a majority.And not to defend A-Rod, but it is of note that Canseco didn't mention him before. If one were going to write a "tell-all" book, why would you deliberately hold back?Last, even if A-Rod had used performance enhancing drugs in the past, he likely didn't in 2005, when he put up 48 HR as a 29 y.o. righty in Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrogn, Bonds hit a lot of homers, too, but the reason he might tie the record today is his abnormal 35-39 year old seasons, which are ill-explained solely by natural ability.

If Arod did in fact juice and then stopped wouldnt that make a case that the juice isnt as big of a difference maker that everybody says it is?

the muscle mass you build from steroids doesn't magically disappear after you stop taking them.

Huh? Of course it does. Steroids help one work out harder. This increases muscle mass. When one stops taking steroids they cannot work out as hard and are therefore not breaking down their muscle mass as much as before. Therefore they are losing strength. Of course the loss of mass does not happen overnight but it does happen gradually.

 

[The Man from Laramie]

the muscle mass you build from steroids doesn't magically disappear after you stop taking them.

But muscle mass, to some degree is problematic in the speed of your swing. If the greatest effect from steroids comes in rejuvenation, we would expect numbers to dip towards the end of the year, and therefore for overall HR totals to dip, which they did.