Cardale Jones to Enter the Draft? (1 Viewer)

[Touchdown There]

Some think that Cardale Jones will enter the 2015 draft. He only has until Thursday to declare so it is an interesting two day question. I think he will because he is already 22 years old and may not be an academic. One interesting thing to note from last night was after the game when a reporter asked Meyer about the play of Elliot and Cardale Jones, Meyer shook his head and talked about the defense. Would you come back to play for a coach that benched you to 3rd string and won't say a single good word about you after leading the team to the national championship?

Some of you may not appreciate what "12 Gauge" just did, so let's recap. The #5 ranked team in the country is forced to start a 3rd string QB in the Big 10 Championship game against Wisconsin, a team that is 10-2 and considered the Vegas favorite. There is a lot at stake as the 5th ranked team in the country does not get a ticket into the playoffs. Ohio State goes on to destroy Wisconsin 59-0. "The powers that be" decide Ohio State is good enough lead by C Jones.

Ohio State is matched up against the best team in the country, Alabama. Cardale shows off his cannon arm in this game and some serious swagger. You could tell the team believed in him and that he showed no fear in the pocket. Ohio State comes back from 14 points down in a major upset of #1.

Let's not recap all of last night, but I saw #12 lower his shoulder and run over a nose guard who had dropped into coverage to get the first down. His short throws look like darts on a bee-line and he can roll out like Big Ben when the pocket breaks down and deliver it deep.

What do you think, does this guy enter the draft?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

That nose guard hit him dead-on and tips the scales at 310 bills. Cardale smacked into him and PUSHED HIM BACK four yards.

Never seen anything like that before in my life.

Then guys had full running shots at him and he shrugged them off like he was playing with his kids or something.

Big time arm, uber calm in the pocket and totally unflappable on the biggest stage in college football.

If he goes back to Ohio State he has no guarantee of starting and why transfer to a small school/conference ALA Joe Flacco instead of jumping ship and getting paid to learn on the job in the NFL?

McShay said he'd be a 4th round pick but I think he'd go at least one round sooner than that knowing the kid has only played THREE COLLEGE GAMES.

 

[Slider]

Haha if Meyer comes with him....

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

 

[DocHolliday]

Kid reminds me of a raw Big Ben. Seems too early to enter the draft but in this weak class of QBs, why not?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Skip Bayless thinks he is a 1st round talent so I'm thinking he's the next JaMarcus Russell.

 

[Quez]

Kid reminds me of a raw Big Ben. Seems too early to enter the draft but in this weak class of QBs, why not?

He could be a good pick to develop into Big Bens replacement. He should be available at their pick.

 

[Touchdown There]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

We'll know soon enough, Thursday is the deadline to declare.

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Dane Brugler @dpbrugler · 9h 9 hours ago

I think Cardale Jones and Braxton Miller will both consider the NFL Draft. They have to make that decision official by Thursday's deadline

 

[Touchdown There]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000457298/article/what-we-learned-osus-cardale-jones-considering-nfl-jump

When asked after the title game whether he will return for another year with the Buckeyes, the affable signal-caller left the door open to capitalizing on his intriguing talents at the next level.

"I'm not going to say 'definitely,'" Jones said. "(The NFL) is something that I'll consider. My most important focus is getting my degree."

Jones attended Fork Union Military Academy for one semester, so he would be the required three years removed from high school to apply for early entry into the 2015 NFL Draft. If he decides to return to OSU, he faces a potentially tough battle at retaining his starting job, despite leading the team to the title, due to the presence of former starter J.T. Barrett and possibly even two-time Big Ten Player of the Year Braxton Miller.

Would Jones accept returning to a backup role?

"Now that's a good question," Jones said. "I don't know."

If Meyer does not guarantee him the starting job within 48 hours on paper, Cardale would be foolish to return, and Meyer will not do that.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

We'll know soon enough, Thursday is the deadline to declare.

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Dane Brugler @dpbrugler · 9h 9 hours ago

I think Cardale Jones and Braxton Miller will both consider the NFL Draft. They have to make that decision official by Thursday's deadline

Best news for the rest of the Big 10. Only one of the 3 QBs to worry about.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

Talk is of Miller transferring, so that might play a part in the decision making.

 

[cstu]

Some of you may not appreciate what "12 Gauge" just did, so let's recap. The #5 ranked team in the country is forced to start a 3rd string QB in the Big 10 Championship game against Wisconsin, a team that is 10-2 and considered the Vegas favorite. There is a lot at stake as the 5th ranked team in the country does not get a ticket into the playoffs. Ohio State goes on to destroy Wisconsin 59-0. "The powers that be" decide Ohio State is good enough lead by C Jones.

Ohio State is matched up against the best team in the country, Alabama. Cardale shows off his cannon arm in this game and some serious swagger. You could tell the team believed in him and that he showed no fear in the pocket. Ohio State comes back from 14 points down in a major upset of #1.

In Jones' three starts his running back ran for 76/696/8 (9.3 YPC).

He has 94 career attempts as a college QB - if he goes pro now I guarantee he'll be a bust.

 

[Touchdown There]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

not much point in betting if he doesn't declare, but if he does I'm up for it.

 

[Touchdown There]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

not much point in betting if he doesn't declare, but if he does I'm up for it.

Right so if he does not declare, bet is void. Let's do $100, I get rounds 1-3, you get rounds 4-7 + undrafted.

 

[FUBAR]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

not much point in betting if he doesn't declare, but if he does I'm up for it.

Right so if he does not declare, bet is void. Let's do $100, I get rounds 1-3, you get rounds 4-7 + undrafted.

If the draft were this month, Aaron would be a slightly richer man without a doubt in my mind.

BUT as the QBs all have warts, it wouldn't surprise me if he shows well and goes in the 3rd to a QB needy team. Maybe Wiz can work with him and Metz.

 

[Touchdown There]

Meyer has breakfast with Cardale this morning...wonder if that conversation was about him being second or third string for Ohio State next year like some think he should be. Why didn't he have breakfast with JT Barrett or Braxton Miller?

Q. Urban, I know you mentioned that there were a couple players who came to you, Taylor and Adolphos, who said that they were staying. Have you had any conversations with anybody about an early entry to the NFL Draft, and do you anticipate that you might over the next couple of days, in particular Cardale?

URBAN MEYER: Oh, I had breakfast with Cardale. We had just a great conversation, but nothing about that. I'm sure there's a lot going on. I mean, it's kind of cool to be sitting here using the word NFL next to Cardale's name. I will tell you this: He could play in the NFL. He certainly has a talent. Is he ready right now? That's a chat I guess we'll go have at some point, probably not right here in front of everybody. You might enjoy that.
But this is why we do what we do, to see guys‑‑ a theme that we have around our facility, it's never too late to change. Some guys change when they're 50 years old, it's too late. Other guys change when they're going through the journey like we all did when we're 17 to 21 years old, 22 years old in his case. Very proud of him. But we have not had that conversation yet.

 

[Freelove]

I don't see why he shouldn't enter.

I don't think his draft stock is likely to improve if he spends another year as a backup. He's the right age, has a few big weapons, some crazy athleticism, and a million question marks.

He's essentially bust-proof, since I don't think there's a GM anywhere in the league that would view him as anything more than a project that they hope works out one day. Would be a good choice, IMO, behind any starting QB where the system in place has at least a moderate focus on the deep ball. PIT, BAL, IND, etc. Or anywhere they're desperate to get a QB, but won't have the resources to get a premier one. ARZ, STL, BUF, etc. Teams like that may be willing to stock up on a handful of big question mark types and hope one of them pulls off a miracle.

Projects as a low rent roll of the dice for certain schemes and styles only. Derek Anderson with legs.

 

[loose circuits]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

not much point in betting if he doesn't declare, but if he does I'm up for it.

Right so if he does not declare, bet is void. Let's do $100, I get rounds 1-3, you get rounds 4-7 + undrafted.

good bet for you, if Logan thomas goes in round 4 based off upside Cardale will go earlier

 

[Touchdown There]

Cardale's daughter was born on Nov 7th. Is he going to be a father + go to school + play football? The responsibility of parenthood would be greatly reduced with a big paycheck.

 

[Touchdown There]

the "3rd string" stuff seems overblown. sounded more to me like he was ahead of Barrett at one point, but when Miller went down they thought Barrett had been practicing better recently so gave him the first shot.

he's legit, but would only be a late round pick at best now.

I'll take that wager from a guy with 76k posts. I'll even give you the 4th round. No way this guy slips past the 3rd round if he declares.

what's the wager? I'd be shocked if he went in round 3 or earlier.

Anything from a sig bet to $100 is good fun for me.

not much point in betting if he doesn't declare, but if he does I'm up for it.

Right so if he does not declare, bet is void. Let's do $100, I get rounds 1-3, you get rounds 4-7 + undrafted.

good bet for you, if Logan thomas goes in round 4 based off upside Cardale will go earlier

Aaron...jump back in...let's seal the deal!

 

[Bracie Smathers]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Aaron...jump back in...let's seal the deal!

starting to have second thoughts. I could maybe see him going higher than I expect given the potential he has.

 

[JohnnyU]

Can't be any worse than the QBs for the Cardinals, Tampa Bay, Jets, Bills, Texans and Titans.

 

[ClownDogs]

Aaron...jump back in...let's seal the deal!

starting to have second thoughts. I could maybe see him going higher than I expect given the potential he has.

Don't back out now!! At least do a Sig bet or something...........

 

[Touchdown There]

Aaron...jump back in...let's seal the deal!

starting to have second thoughts. I could maybe see him going higher than I expect given the potential he has.

Wondered if you would see the light.

 

[encaitar]

I think it could work out for him to come out now. Obviously I don't think he's ready, but he's better off starting his NFL training than continuing for another year as a backup in a non-NFL system.

He could conceivably go as high as the late 2nd in my mind if he does well in the combine and during pro day. He goes back next year and doesn't play, he'll be a 5th round pick no matter how the offseason workouts go for him.

Being a non-first round pick lowers the risk for the team picking him. He's a project now, nothing guaranteed. Same for him. He'll be forced to work hard since his paychecks won't be huge. This lessens the possibility that he becomes the next Jamarcus Russell.

Honestly I think with a few years with the right NFL staff and he becomes a guy with a potential ceiling of a Daunte Culpepper(pre-knee injury) or Ben Roethlisburger type QB.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think it could work out for him to come out now. Obviously I don't think he's ready, but he's better off starting his NFL training than continuing for another year as a backup in a non-NFL system.

He could conceivably go as high as the late 2nd in my mind if he does well in the combine and during pro day. He goes back next year and doesn't play, he'll be a 5th round pick no matter how the offseason workouts go for him.

Being a non-first round pick lowers the risk for the team picking him. He's a project now, nothing guaranteed. Same for him. He'll be forced to work hard since his paychecks won't be huge. This lessens the possibility that he becomes the next Jamarcus Russell.

Honestly I think with a few years with the right NFL staff and he becomes a guy with a potential ceiling of a Daunte Culpepper(pre-knee injury) or Ben Roethlisburger type QB.

How could he be any less ready than any of the qbs on the teams I mentioned. Surely he's better than most of them right now.

 

[MattFancy]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

this is the smartest thing i've read about this situation all day.

 

[TLEF316]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

I don't believe this is allowed. I don't think you can just decide to declare for the supplemental draft. There has to be an extenuating circumstance. (Like getting kicked off your college team)

 

[Touchdown There]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

I don't believe this is allowed. I don't think you can just decide to declare for the supplemental draft. There has to be an extenuating circumstance. (Like getting kicked off your college team)

You are correct according to the rules:

Any player who is ineligible for the principal draft, but who becomes eligible after such draft and prior to the beginning of the League's next regular season, is not eligible to be signed as a free agent but is eligible for a supplemental selection procedure conducted by the Commissioner.

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[3nOut]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

I don't believe this is allowed. I don't think you can just decide to declare for the supplemental draft. There has to be an extenuating circumstance. (Like getting kicked off your college team)

You are correct according to the rules:

Any player who is ineligible for the principal draft, but who becomes eligible after such draft and prior to the beginning of the League's next regular season, is not eligible to be signed as a free agent but is eligible for a supplemental selection procedure conducted by the Commissioner.

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What happens to players who don't declare fr the draft but decide not to return to school? I wouldn't think they'd be free agents because then everyone would do that and sign with whichever team they want.

 

[lod01]

He needs to declare. I want to see which GM has the balls to put his reputation on the line and draft this guy. He could become legendary if Jones can perform at the NFL level. I think it will take some time and great coaching but someone may hit the QB lotto with this guy.

Cleveland could draft him and flat out cut Manzier.

 

[Phenomena]

Considering this is the dude that earlier in the year tweeted "classes are pointless" ... he's going to have a rough time in the NFL. I wouldn't waste a 5th round pick on a guy that considers studying pointless. I want a guy that's up until 1 AM studying tape every night.

Physique may get you into the NFL - having the mind/drive to go along with it is what makes quality starters.

He's big and may be more durable, but he's not that fast at all. I don't see many of those runs happening against NFL defensive lineman. The arm is fantastic, though. If he can pull of a Roeth-type play ability, hanging in the pocket and zipping the ball around, without relying on running ability, he might have a chance.

 

[Don Quixote]

The other element that no one here has mentioned yet is that Cardale can always declare for the NFL Supplemental draft held in July.

That way he isn't forced into a quick decision and he should know where he stands on the Buckeyes depth chart and he'll know how high he could go and teams will use a higher pick in the supplemental draft since they don't have to pay for that draft pick for another year so if a team used a 2nd round supplemental pick this year they still get to make their 2nd pick in the May NFL draft AND could get Cardale in July's supplemental draft.

The big drawback for Cardale is that he wouldn't be able to attend any of the mini camps and he'd fall behind in training camp so he'd never realistically have a shot to play in 2015 but that could also be a good strategy and it would take pressure of any team that took him because they could always say he got drafted soo late that he didn't get the reps in camp etc. and that this is a red shirt season for him.

That might be the best strategy for Cardale but if he came out early he could attend all mini camps and that obviously would be the most beneficial to his NFL prospects because he needs more work than most.

I don't believe this is allowed. I don't think you can just decide to declare for the supplemental draft. There has to be an extenuating circumstance. (Like getting kicked off your college team)

Maybe he could pull a Costanza to get kicked out of school.

 

[Donnybrook]

That nose guard hit him dead-on and tips the scales at 310 bills. Cardale smacked into him and PUSHED HIM BACK four yards.

Never seen anything like that before in my life.

Then guys had full running shots at him and he shrugged them off like he was playing with his kids or something.

Big time arm, uber calm in the pocket and totally unflappable on the biggest stage in college football.

If he goes back to Ohio State he has no guarantee of starting and why transfer to a small school/conference ALA Joe Flacco instead of jumping ship and getting paid to learn on the job in the NFL?

McShay said he'd be a 4th round pick but I think he'd go at least one round sooner than that knowing the kid has only played THREE COLLEGE GAMES.

My NFL comparison for Jones would be Daunte Culpepper.

 

[Yenrub]

Considering this is the dude that earlier in the year tweeted "classes are pointless" ... he's going to have a rough time in the NFL. I wouldn't waste a 5th round pick on a guy that considers studying pointless. I want a guy that's up until 1 AM studying tape every night.

Physique may get you into the NFL - having the mind/drive to go along with it is what makes quality starters.

He's big and may be more durable, but he's not that fast at all. I don't see many of those runs happening against NFL defensive lineman. The arm is fantastic, though. If he can pull of a Roeth-type play ability, hanging in the pocket and zipping the ball around, without relying on running ability, he might have a chance.

I think the tweet was from a couple of years ago

He may actually like studying football and not academics

 

[lod01]

Considering this is the dude that earlier in the year tweeted "classes are pointless" ... he's going to have a rough time in the NFL. I wouldn't waste a 5th round pick on a guy that considers studying pointless. I want a guy that's up until 1 AM studying tape every night.

Physique may get you into the NFL - having the mind/drive to go along with it is what makes quality starters.

He's big and may be more durable, but he's not that fast at all. I don't see many of those runs happening against NFL defensive lineman. The arm is fantastic, though. If he can pull of a Roeth-type play ability, hanging in the pocket and zipping the ball around, without relying on running ability, he might have a chance.

I think the tweet was from a couple of years ago

He may actually like studying football and not academics

Only he knows the answer to that. That is the biggest risk with this guy based on previous actions.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think it could work out for him to come out now. Obviously I don't think he's ready, but he's better off starting his NFL training than continuing for another year as a backup in a non-NFL system.

He could conceivably go as high as the late 2nd in my mind if he does well in the combine and during pro day. He goes back next year and doesn't play, he'll be a 5th round pick no matter how the offseason workouts go for him.

Being a non-first round pick lowers the risk for the team picking him. He's a project now, nothing guaranteed. Same for him. He'll be forced to work hard since his paychecks won't be huge. This lessens the possibility that he becomes the next Jamarcus Russell.

Honestly I think with a few years with the right NFL staff and he becomes a guy with a potential ceiling of a Daunte Culpepper(pre-knee injury) or Ben Roethlisburger type QB.

How could he be any less ready than any of the qbs on the teams I mentioned. Surely he's better than most of them right now.

He's played in three college games - I like the guy a lot but lets not get carried away here. He's got top notch physical traits, but I think he would look as bad as any of those team's quarterbacks if he started right off the bat.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think it could work out for him to come out now. Obviously I don't think he's ready, but he's better off starting his NFL training than continuing for another year as a backup in a non-NFL system.

He could conceivably go as high as the late 2nd in my mind if he does well in the combine and during pro day. He goes back next year and doesn't play, he'll be a 5th round pick no matter how the offseason workouts go for him.

Being a non-first round pick lowers the risk for the team picking him. He's a project now, nothing guaranteed. Same for him. He'll be forced to work hard since his paychecks won't be huge. This lessens the possibility that he becomes the next Jamarcus Russell.

Honestly I think with a few years with the right NFL staff and he becomes a guy with a potential ceiling of a Daunte Culpepper(pre-knee injury) or Ben Roethlisburger type QB.

How could he be any less ready than any of the qbs on the teams I mentioned. Surely he's better than most of them right now.

He's played in three college games - I like the guy a lot but lets not get carried away here. He's got top notch physical traits, but I think he would look as bad as any of those team's quarterbacks if he started right off the bat.

I never said anything about starting in the NFL. Personally I would like him to start at OSU next year.

 

[fantasycurse42]

He has size, speed, and a rocket for an arm... This is all we know about him.

What makes me laugh is how much stake would be put into his pro-day. If you're an NFL team evaluating this guy, you might as well just flip a coin.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's played in three college games - I like the guy a lot but lets not get carried away here. He's got top notch physical traits, but I think he would look as bad as any of those team's quarterbacks if he started right off the bat.

I never said anything about starting in the NFL. Personally I would like him to start at OSU next year.

Can't be any worse than the QBs for the Cardinals, Tampa Bay, Jets, Bills, Texans and Titans.

How could he be any less ready than any of the qbs on the teams I mentioned. Surely he's better than most of them right now.

Those aren't NFL teams?

 

[Touchdown There]

He has size, speed, and a rocket for an arm... This is all we know about him.

What makes me laugh is how much stake would be put into his pro-day. If you're an NFL team evaluating this guy, you might as well just flip a coin.

Sure, flip a coin but at a second or third round price. That is the bargain. Possible franchise qb that will not cost a top ten pick.

 

[King of the Jungle]

If he declares I don't think he gets past the 2nd round. Too much emphasis on QB these days and a 2nd rounder is a cheap gamble with his upside.

 

[cstu]

That nose guard hit him dead-on and tips the scales at 310 bills. Cardale smacked into him and PUSHED HIM BACK four yards.

Never seen anything like that before in my life.

Then guys had full running shots at him and he shrugged them off like he was playing with his kids or something.

Big time arm, uber calm in the pocket and totally unflappable on the biggest stage in college football.

If he goes back to Ohio State he has no guarantee of starting and why transfer to a small school/conference ALA Joe Flacco instead of jumping ship and getting paid to learn on the job in the NFL?

McShay said he'd be a 4th round pick but I think he'd go at least one round sooner than that knowing the kid has only played THREE COLLEGE GAMES.

My NFL comparison for Jones would be Daunte Culpepper.

I like the comparison, I doubt Culpepper would had done as well as he did in the NFL if he left college after 3 games.

If Cardale stays in school a couple of more years he could be good, but by going to the NFL now he's not going to get the development he needs.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If he declares I don't think he gets past the 2nd round. Too much emphasis on QB these days and a 2nd rounder is a cheap gamble with his upside.

Agree, someone will bite. Tebow went 1.25, only takes one team.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

We ain't come to play no school. /Cardale

 

[The Man With No Name]

mid 3rd round picks do get around $1 million in year 1 and $3 million total. I would call that huge compared to your average guy.