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Cardinals-Padres Deal (1 Viewer)

Bob Sacamano

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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...06?OpenDocument

By Joe Strauss

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

12/04/2008

The Cardinals apparently have addressed their question at shortstop by acquiring one of the league’s largest enigmas.

Hours after formally agreeing to a one-year deal with free agent reliever Trever Miller, the Cardinals traded for San Diego Padres shortstop Khalil Greene Wednesday night.

The Cardinals have yet to confirm the deal, but Greene is believed to have cost the Cardinals two players, at least one a righthanded reliever.

Greene experienced a production meltdown last season, one year after crashing 27 home runs for the Padres. Greene batted .213 with just 10 home runs while striking out 100 times in 105 games in 2008.

Desperate to reduce payroll, the Padres were believed determined to unload Greene before next week’s Winter Meetings in Las Vegas. The New York Post first reported the deal on its web site Wednesday night.

Greene, 29, is entering his final year before free agency and inherits a position manned by defensively adroit but offensively challenged Cesar Izturis last season.

A career .248 hitter, Greene appeared to lose confidence as a hitter last season, managing only 27 extra-base hits and 35 RBI after producing 74 extra-base hits and 97 RBI in 2007.

Greene is due $6.5 million next season. It is unknown whether the Padres assumed any of his remaining salary in the deal.

Greene would become the Cardinals’ fourth starting shortstop in six seasons, following Edgar Renteria, David Eckstein and Izturis. A righthanded hitter, Greene missed the final two months of last season with a fractured left hand. Greene suffered the injury when he punched a storage chest July 31.

In recent days the Baltimore Orioles had shown interest in Greene while the Detroit Tigers denied interest in him.

The Cardinals, seeking more offensive punch, are banking on getting the player who defied Petco Park’s massive dimensions with one of the most prolific seasons by a shortstop in 2007.

Many within the industry believed Greene became obsessed with hitting for power last year and ultimately buried himself. Greene has committed only 28 errors in 371 games the last three seasons.

The switch-hitting Izturis batted .263 with one home run and 24 RBI in 414 at-bats last season, leading the Cardinals with 24 stolen bases in 30 attempts

*Neither of whom was on the major-league roster at the end of last season.

 
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Obsessing about hitting for power when your home park is Petco is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen a baseball player do.

That said, he might be ok. I hope the Pads are picking up some of that salary, though.

Just noticed this as I was typing that last sentence...

The Cardinals, seeking more offensive punch, are banking on getting the player who defied Petco Park’s massive dimensions with one of the most prolific seasons by a shortstop in 2007
Batting .254/.291/.468 is "prolific"?
 
Obsessing about hitting for power when your home park is Petco is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen a baseball player do.

That said, he might be ok. I hope the Pads are picking up some of that salary, though.

Just noticed this as I was typing that last sentence...

The Cardinals, seeking more offensive punch, are banking on getting the player who defied Petco Park’s massive dimensions with one of the most prolific seasons by a shortstop in 2007
Batting .254/.291/.468 is "prolific"?
It is compared to his 64 OPS+ season last year.It could be a win-win trade. The Padres weren't going to resign him next year, so they get something in return and dump his $6.5M salary. It remains to be seen if the unnamed players are better than waiting it out and getting draft picks if Greene went as a free agent.

The Redbirds fill a hole and take a shot at finding out whether Greene levels out at his 07 or 08 performance.

 
Obsessing about hitting for power when your home park is Petco is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen a baseball player do.

That said, he might be ok. I hope the Pads are picking up some of that salary, though.

Just noticed this as I was typing that last sentence...

The Cardinals, seeking more offensive punch, are banking on getting the player who defied Petco Park’s massive dimensions with one of the most prolific seasons by a shortstop in 2007
Batting .254/.291/.468 is "prolific"?
It is compared to his 64 OPS+ season last year.It could be a win-win trade. The Padres weren't going to resign him next year, so they get something in return and dump his $6.5M salary. It remains to be seen if the unnamed players are better than waiting it out and getting draft picks if Greene went as a free agent.

The Redbirds fill a hole and take a shot at finding out whether Greene levels out at his 07 or 08 performance.
Probably somewhere in the middle. And for a team whose next-best option was Izturis, I'll take it. Lots of rumors involving Worrell and/or Luke Gregorson. Plus some indication that the commissioner's office needs to approve the trade, which would mean more than $1 mil in cash involved.

Worrell pissed off the Cards and wasn't going to be around long anyway. Don't know much about Gregorson.

 
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Greene is a lot like Jack Wilson, who is rumored to be headed to Detroit or LA. Both are SS with better than average power for the position but poor OBP skills. They both have one year remaining on their current deals at around the same salary.

Greene is younger. Neither is great defensively, although Wilson's Range Factors are surprisingly good.

 
Greene is a lot like Jack Wilson, who is rumored to be headed to Detroit or LA. Both are SS with better than average power for the position but poor OBP skills. They both have one year remaining on their current deals at around the same salary.Greene is younger. Neither is great defensively, although Wilson's Range Factors are surprisingly good.
Getting out of Petco should help Greene, but for a team that really needs contact hitters and OBP guys, he's got to be a plug rather than any sort of long-term solution. I'd assume Ludwick is headed out of town, as a lineup with Ankiel, Glaus, Greene, and Ludwick is enough to give Don Quixote a semi-.
 
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