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Eminence

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I currently work at Walgreens as a Shift Lead where I make $11.75 an hour. I am well liked in the company and am being fast tracked to my next promotion which pays about $14.00 an hour. It's an easy job and I like being the boss.

I am interviewing at State Farm tomorrow for a Sales Representative but am unsure whether or not I should take the job if it is offered. You would think the base pay would be comparable along with commission.

Does anyone have any insight? I'm going to go wherever the money is, unless it isn't significant. Any insurance sales reps on here?

 
Insurance sales can be tough. I'm not sure about State Farm, but normally insurance sales are 100% commission. Also, be prepared to not make any money for the first 2-3 years. It will take that long to build up a 'book of business'.

 
EMINENCE: Seeks advice from FFA

FFA: Provides advice and counsel with a dash of shtick.

EMINENCE: Blatantly disregards advice and arrogantly lashes out.

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Eminence said:
I currently work at Walgreens as a Shift Lead where I make $11.75 an hour. I am well liked in the company and am being fast tracked to my next promotion which pays about $14.00 an hour. It's an easy job and I like being the boss.

I am interviewing at State Farm tomorrow for a Sales Representative but am unsure whether or not I should take the job if it is offered. You would think the base pay would be comparable along with commission.

Does anyone have any insight? I'm going to go wherever the money is, unless it isn't significant. Any insurance sales reps on here?
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I have read your football / stock threads and you are very knowledgeable. My question to you is why not just make your career fanduel for NFL?

 
popsecret said:
Eminence said:
I currently work at Walgreens as a Shift Lead where I make $11.75 an hour. I am well liked in the company and am being fast tracked to my next promotion which pays about $14.00 an hour. It's an easy job and I like being the boss.

I am interviewing at State Farm tomorrow for a Sales Representative but am unsure whether or not I should take the job if it is offered. You would think the base pay would be comparable along with commission.

Does anyone have any insight? I'm going to go wherever the money is, unless it isn't significant. Any insurance sales reps on here?
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I have read your football / stock threads and you are very knowledgeable. My question to you is why not just make your career fanduel for NFL?
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I feel like in Fan Duel you need to hit it big once. Kind of like playing the lottery. The quote in Tremblay's signature says it best.

I don't have the excess funds to burn $100 on each round of Fan Duel in anticipation of walking away with a $25,000 check at some point. Same thing with gambling. I'm over 50% on my NBA bets but my bankroll is too small actually yield a respectable income.

 
When I was college aged, all that was available to me for the first few months were insurance sales.

Low base salary and be prepared to grind it out to make money. It's he'll based on reports from guys I know. They will try to sell you hard because it's little risk for them with a commission based job.

You'll probably hear at least 3 stories from guys who were in your place and now make millions and they won't tell you how bad the turnover is in those jobs.

Stick with Walgreens for now.

 
Reginald Cornsilks said:
When I was college aged, all that was available to me for the first few months were insurance sales.

Low base salary and be prepared to grind it out to make money. It's he'll based on reports from guys I know. They will try to sell you hard because it's little risk for them with a commission based job.

You'll probably hear at least 3 stories from guys who were in your place and now make millions and they won't tell you how bad the turnover is in those jobs.

Stick with Walgreens for now.
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That's kind of the vibe I'm getting. If they don't offer base pay, then there's no way in hell that I'm interested.

 
Eminence said:
Reginald Cornsilks said:
When I was college aged, all that was available to me for the first few months were insurance sales.

Low base salary and be prepared to grind it out to make money. It's he'll based on reports from guys I know. They will try to sell you hard because it's little risk for them with a commission based job.

You'll probably hear at least 3 stories from guys who were in your place and now make millions and they won't tell you how bad the turnover is in those jobs.

Stick with Walgreens for now.
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That's kind of the vibe I'm getting. If they don't offer base pay, then there's no way in hell that I'm interested.
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In this case don't go into sales ever.
 
popsecret said:
Eminence said:
I currently work at Walgreens as a Shift Lead where I make $11.75 an hour. I am well liked in the company and am being fast tracked to my next promotion which pays about $14.00 an hour. It's an easy job and I like being the boss.

I am interviewing at State Farm tomorrow for a Sales Representative but am unsure whether or not I should take the job if it is offered. You would think the base pay would be comparable along with commission.

Does anyone have any insight? I'm going to go wherever the money is, unless it isn't significant. Any insurance sales reps on here?
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I have read your football / stock threads and you are very knowledgeable. My question to you is why not just make your career fanduel for NFL?
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YOURE NOT EVEN TRYING
 
bushdocda said:
Saturday interview over Christmas weekend.

Why not?
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Thought it was weird too, but it's through a friend. I didn't even submit an application, he came to me about this. Which obviously causes me to raise an eyebrow. If it wasn't through State Farm, I would have completely blown him off.

 
Eminence said:
bushdocda said:
Saturday interview over Christmas weekend.

Why not?
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Thought it was weird too, but it's through a friend. I didn't even submit an application, he came to me about this. Which obviously causes me to raise an eyebrow. If it wasn't through State Farm, I would have completely blown him off.
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I would imagine it's similar to Northwestern Mutual here in Columbus. They were at every career fair I attended in college and basically just bring in anyone that will show up for an interview. Since it's pretty heavily commission based, they don't have a lot to lose by hiring everyone. You take an assessment test and if you pass you're pretty much "in".

edit: doesn't mean it's not legit, just means it's very heavily commission based, especially at the start.

 
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Is this fishing? If you are referring to getting an interview to be an agent for State Farm there is no way in hell you will make it not to mention the idiot that recommended you. It's a very complicated vetting system they do to even make it to the initial interview. From there it's even more complex and a lot of it has to do with how much money you have to help build your agency as well as how you manage money.

 
Is this one of those deals where you get hired and then need to get all of your friends and family switched to State Farm? 45 days later, they let you go.

I see you more as a Honda salesman.

 
Few notes here:

:lmao: yes I think popsecret is eminence too.

Interview two days after Christmas on a Saturday :lol:

Real advice:

Honestly, this sounds miserable... When I was roughly your age, I interviewed for something similar in a different field, it was at AXA Equitable... The "interview" was basically some guy selling me about how much money I would make. I dont even think I waited for the elevator, I ran down 20 flights stairs to get out. Honestly, if you were to take this job (which I would recommend against), you should look into something like AXA or Eward Jones. Prob a similar set up in terms of pay, but higher upside.

 
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Eminence said:
Osaurus said:
Eminence said:
eoMMan said:
Do you own khakis?
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I don't waste my money on working man's clothes.
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Stock boy clothes then?
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I only wear the finest business clothes to work. When I go to work, I dress like I'm the boss. I make the District Manager blush.
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I'm picturing a JC Penny's mannequin here... Calvin Klein shoes (with the buckle to try and look like Ferragamos), a Club Room Suit, and like a Donald Trump tie.

How close am I here?

 
fantasycurse42 said:
Few notes here:

:lmao: yes I think popsecret is eminence too.

Interview two days after Christmas on a Saturday :lol:

Real advice:

Honestly, this sounds miserable... When I was roughly your age, I interviewed for something similar in a different field, it was at AXA Equitable... The "interview" was basically some guy selling me about how much money I would make. I dont even think I waited for the elevator, I ran down 20 flights stairs to get out. Honestly, if you were to take this job (which I would recommend against), you should look into something like AXA or Eward Jones. Prob a similar set up in terms of pay, but higher upside.
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Don't ####ing do it.

I had a similar experience. Went to an interview with Aflac back in the day. I felt as if the interviewer was trying to sell me insurance, not hire me. The overall feeling I got was, "if you want the job, fine. Whatever. But if you don't, hey! Come back and buy Aflac from me!"

Don't ####ing do it. You have a steady job with a steady, guaranteed income. Stick with it.

 
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
fantasycurse42 said:
Few notes here:

:lmao: yes I think popsecret is eminence too.

Interview two days after Christmas on a Saturday :lol:

Real advice:

Honestly, this sounds miserable... When I was roughly your age, I interviewed for something similar in a different field, it was at AXA Equitable... The "interview" was basically some guy selling me about how much money I would make. I dont even think I waited for the elevator, I ran down 20 flights stairs to get out. Honestly, if you were to take this job (which I would recommend against), you should look into something like AXA or Eward Jones. Prob a similar set up in terms of pay, but higher upside.
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Don't ####ing do it.

I had a similar experience. Went to an interview with Aflac back in the day. I felt as if the interviewer was trying to sell me insurance, not hire me. The overall feeling I got was, "if you want the job, fine. Whatever. But if you don't, hey! Come back and buy Aflac from me!"

Don't ####ing do it. You have a steady job with a steady, guaranteed income. Stick with it.
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Do you guys realize what being a State Farm agent is? It's like a franchise. You are starting a business. It's not just taking a job to sell insurance. Unless the guy Em is talking to wants him to be an employee for his agency.

 
Eminence said:
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.
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What are you being interviewed for? To start an agency as an agent or just being an employee in an established agency?

 
Eminence said:
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.
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Do not do that. You shouldn't take the job but you should go on the interview and take it seriously. Practicing interviews will do nothing but help you, by the time you get an interview for a job you really want it will be nice to have a number of "practice" interviews under your belt.

 
Stinger Ray said:
Eminence said:
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.
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What are you being interviewed for? To start an agency as an agent or just being an employee in an established agency?
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Likely an accounting position. If you haven't heard he is getting an Associates degree in Accounting and graduating with honors.

 
xulf said:
Stinger Ray said:
Eminence said:
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.
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What are you being interviewed for? To start an agency as an agent or just being an employee in an established agency?
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Likely an accounting position. If you haven't heard he is getting an "Associates" "degree" in "Accounting" and "graduating" with "honors."
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FYP

 
Eminence said:
popsecret said:
Eminence said:
I currently work at Walgreens as a Shift Lead where I make $11.75 an hour. I am well liked in the company and am being fast tracked to my next promotion which pays about $14.00 an hour. It's an easy job and I like being the boss.

I am interviewing at State Farm tomorrow for a Sales Representative but am unsure whether or not I should take the job if it is offered. You would think the base pay would be comparable along with commission.

Does anyone have any insight? I'm going to go wherever the money is, unless it isn't significant. Any insurance sales reps on here?
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I have read your football / stock threads and you are very knowledgeable. My question to you is why not just make your career fanduel for NFL?
Click to expand...
I feel like in Fan Duel you need to hit it big once. Kind of like playing the lottery. The quote in Tremblay's signature says it best.

I don't have the excess funds to burn $100 on each round of Fan Duel in anticipation of walking away with a $25,000 check at some point. Same thing with gambling. I'm over 50% on my NBA bets but my bankroll is too small actually yield a respectable income.
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Get a couple credit cards and max out with cash advances.

Problem solved.

 
Stinger Ray said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
fantasycurse42 said:
Few notes here:

:lmao: yes I think popsecret is eminence too.

Interview two days after Christmas on a Saturday :lol:

Real advice:

Honestly, this sounds miserable... When I was roughly your age, I interviewed for something similar in a different field, it was at AXA Equitable... The "interview" was basically some guy selling me about how much money I would make. I dont even think I waited for the elevator, I ran down 20 flights stairs to get out. Honestly, if you were to take this job (which I would recommend against), you should look into something like AXA or Eward Jones. Prob a similar set up in terms of pay, but higher upside.
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Don't ####ing do it.

I had a similar experience. Went to an interview with Aflac back in the day. I felt as if the interviewer was trying to sell me insurance, not hire me. The overall feeling I got was, "if you want the job, fine. Whatever. But if you don't, hey! Come back and buy Aflac from me!"

Don't ####ing do it. You have a steady job with a steady, guaranteed income. Stick with it.
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Do you guys realize what being a State Farm agent is? It's like a franchise. You are starting a business. It's not just taking a job to sell insurance. Unless the guy Em is talking to wants him to be an employee for his agency.
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Em, it's not 40 hours per week. You're starting a business. Stinger Ray is absolutely right. If you think you are ready to work 60-70 hours a week to make your business succeed, AND you have the skill set to do so, go for it. I stand by what I shared with you via pm. There are ways to make it work, but it's not a 9-5 gig.

 
thayman said:
Eminence said:
I'm gonna go in with bed head and see if they still want to hire me. :P

I got some really good advice via PM from facook. But yeah, does not seem like a legit 40 hours a week job.
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Do not do that. You shouldn't take the job but you should go on the interview and take it seriously. Practicing interviews will do nothing but help you, by the time you get an interview for a job you really want it will be nice to have a number of "practice" interviews under your belt.
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This. When you're young and starting out take every interview you can get. Even if you aren't sure you are interested in the job, or know for a fact you aren't, do it for the experience. In the early '90s when I was out of college the sales/"management" jobs were Enterprise, retail (Macys, Target), and selling long distance phone service or copiers. I sold long distance for a few months right out of school, was offered a job by Enterprise three different times (turned them all down, although a roommate worked for them), and I eventually landed in technology where I've been ever since. But I never would have gotten that first job in tech if I hadn't learned how to nail job interviews over those first few years of my career.

 
Assuming this isn't a complete fishing trip....(and even if it is...whatever)

I deal with insurance agents every single day (independent agents, not a direct writer like state-farm). I see everyone from dopey 23 year olds (like you would be) just starting out to multimillionaire agency principals (my dad's agency sold to a large venture capital firm for big bucks) to the regional heads of huge multi-national agencies (Willis, Aon, Marsh, etc)

There is basically zero chance of you being successful at this. Its incredibly tough to build a book as a young insurance agent. You either need to be a world class salesman with an unreal work ethic or you need to have tremendous connections (like an aging producer that is getting ready to retire) to hand feed you business.

From what I can see from the company side of things, most new producers/agents wash out within a year and a half. I'd shocked if more than 25% of them even last that long. Its a brutal business, even if you're well-educated, thick skinned, charismatic and good with people.

So yeah, don't even think about it. Keep working up the chain at Walgreens. Any sort of sales career (let alone insurance) would just be a disaster for you.

 
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TLEF316 said:
Assuming this isn't a complete fishing trip....(and even if it is...whatever)

I deal with insurance agents every single day (independent agents, not a direct writer like state-farm). I see everyone from dopey 23 year olds (like you would be) just starting out to multimillionaire agency principals (my dad's agency sold to a large venture capital firm for big bucks) to the regional heads of huge multi-national agencies (Willis, Aon, Marsh, etc)

There is basically zero chance of you being successful at this. Its incredibly tough to build a book as a young insurance agent. You either need to be a world class salesman with an unreal work ethic or you need to have tremendous connections (like an aging producer that is getting ready to retire) to hand feed you business.

From what I can see from the company side of things, most new producers/agents wash out within a year and a half. I'd shocked if more than 25% of them even last that long. Its a brutal business, even if you're well-educated, thick skinned, charismatic and good with people.

So yeah, don't even think about it. Keep working up the chain at Walgreens. Any sort of sales career (let alone insurance) would just be a disaster for you.
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Not to mention the maturity of a 15 year old.
 
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