RabidRabbit
Footballguy
Have a question, and I'm sure it has been answered at some point, but did not find any search results under
"+career +rushing +attempt."
Tiki gets buried by some b/c of the "age" concern. I think age is not really the factor (unless they are getting really old, 35 years old or so for an athlete and their bodies are just not as youthful and thus are losing physical abilities). I'm not sure a pro football player loses ability at 31. I think it might be the hits and mileage that are more determinative factors. So instead of age, isn't a better gauge "career rushing attempts." For instance a lot of people defend Tiki saying, "he didn't play a ton early on and just recently -- over the last 4 years -- he's been the featured back." Maybe there is something that shows that backs, no matter their use, historically do not perform after the age of 30. If that's true and carries are not the key, then I want to see that information and know that as I decide on Tiki in my draft.
So when does an NFL running back hit the wall.
Is it at age 30? 2200 rushing attempts? Three knee surgeries?
Doubtful there is a magic number, but just wondering on your thoughts or what evidence you've seen.
Here are some interesting career rushing attempt stats:
Emmitt -- 4409
Martin -- 3518
Bettis -- 3479
George -- 2865
Faulk -- 2836
Dillon -- 2419
Edge -- 2188
Stp Davis -- 1905
Barber -- 1890
Fred Taylor -- 1831
Holmes -- 1734
Alexander -- 1717
Tomlinson -- 1702
A Green -- 1605
Jamal Lewis -- 1508
Some interesting information or not helpful? Can this be used to evaluate Tiki Barber and does he really have a chance to be on the decline this year? Fantasy Owners passed on him last year in rounds 1 and sometimes 2, and hindsight shows that was a foolish move -- there is no debating that after the season he put up and we all shut up.
He's now 31. No serious injuries to his knees or ankles. No concussions. He's been in the league for 9 years and thus has averaged 210 carries a year, but 315 over the last 4 years. Barber's lack of use or "fresh legs" is sometimes compared to Priest Holmes' situation.
Although Priest's career is over b/c of the neck injury, not b/c of tired or worn out legs.
Also, "touches" not figured into this. A guy like Tiki has caught a lot of balls too. The above is only rushing attempts.
Also, I'm not real sure looking at a guy such as Bettis or Emmitt helps given their enormous HOF careers and the facts they are freaks. Plus Bettis' running style is much different from Tiki's. Jamal Lewis has 300+ fewer carries than Tiki, but his ankle injuries, crack deals and the 380 rushes/2000 yrd season took its toll. Plus he's a completely different runner than Tiki as well.
"+career +rushing +attempt."
Tiki gets buried by some b/c of the "age" concern. I think age is not really the factor (unless they are getting really old, 35 years old or so for an athlete and their bodies are just not as youthful and thus are losing physical abilities). I'm not sure a pro football player loses ability at 31. I think it might be the hits and mileage that are more determinative factors. So instead of age, isn't a better gauge "career rushing attempts." For instance a lot of people defend Tiki saying, "he didn't play a ton early on and just recently -- over the last 4 years -- he's been the featured back." Maybe there is something that shows that backs, no matter their use, historically do not perform after the age of 30. If that's true and carries are not the key, then I want to see that information and know that as I decide on Tiki in my draft.
So when does an NFL running back hit the wall.
Is it at age 30? 2200 rushing attempts? Three knee surgeries?
Doubtful there is a magic number, but just wondering on your thoughts or what evidence you've seen.
Here are some interesting career rushing attempt stats:
Emmitt -- 4409
Martin -- 3518
Bettis -- 3479
George -- 2865
Faulk -- 2836
Dillon -- 2419
Edge -- 2188
Stp Davis -- 1905
Barber -- 1890
Fred Taylor -- 1831
Holmes -- 1734
Alexander -- 1717
Tomlinson -- 1702
A Green -- 1605
Jamal Lewis -- 1508
Some interesting information or not helpful? Can this be used to evaluate Tiki Barber and does he really have a chance to be on the decline this year? Fantasy Owners passed on him last year in rounds 1 and sometimes 2, and hindsight shows that was a foolish move -- there is no debating that after the season he put up and we all shut up.
He's now 31. No serious injuries to his knees or ankles. No concussions. He's been in the league for 9 years and thus has averaged 210 carries a year, but 315 over the last 4 years. Barber's lack of use or "fresh legs" is sometimes compared to Priest Holmes' situation.
Although Priest's career is over b/c of the neck injury, not b/c of tired or worn out legs.
Also, "touches" not figured into this. A guy like Tiki has caught a lot of balls too. The above is only rushing attempts.
Also, I'm not real sure looking at a guy such as Bettis or Emmitt helps given their enormous HOF careers and the facts they are freaks. Plus Bettis' running style is much different from Tiki's. Jamal Lewis has 300+ fewer carries than Tiki, but his ankle injuries, crack deals and the 380 rushes/2000 yrd season took its toll. Plus he's a completely different runner than Tiki as well.
