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Career VBD leaders (1 Viewer)

Chase Stuart

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Career VBD leaders using FBG standard scoring and QB12, RB24, WR30 and TE12 as the baselines.

** denotes that the player was active in 2006.

Top 35 Quarterbacks

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1047	Dan Marino928	**Brett Favre771	Steve Young769	Randall Cunningham753	John Elway712	**Peyton Manning708	Joe Montana662	Warren Moon644	Roger Staubach562	Fran Tarkenton533	Ken Anderson523	Dan Fouts476	**Daunte Culpepper387	Terry Bradshaw386	Jim Everett383	Boomer Esiason351	Rich Gannon348	**Drew Bledsoe334	Jim Kelly323	Bert Jones313	Steve Grogan285	Neil Lomax266	**Kurt Warner265	**Jeff Garcia263	Brian Sipe256	Greg Landry243	Jim Hart236	Joe Theismann235	Ken Stabler225	**Steve McNair224	**Donovan McNabb213	Roman Gabriel213	John Hadl210	Dave Krieg208	**Vinny Testaverde
Top 50 Running Backs
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1332	Emmitt Smith1268	Walter Payton1235	Barry Sanders1164	Marshall Faulk1013	**LaDainian Tomlinson887	Eric Dickerson884	Marcus Allen856	Thurman Thomas832	Curtis Martin823	Ricky Watters743	**Shaun Alexander705	Tony Dorsett701	O.J. Simpson682	**Edgerrin James675	Priest Holmes648	Chuck Foreman642	**Tiki Barber630	Herschel Walker616	Franco Harris600	Terrell Davis582	Ottis Anderson556	Eddie George549	Roger Craig547	**Ahman Green522	Earl Campbell499	Lydell Mitchell483	William Andrews478	**Corey Dillon464	Neal Anderson463	Wilbert Montgomery461	John Riggins448	Terry Allen434	Jerome Bettis421	**Fred Taylor415	**Clinton Portis407	Billy Sims406	Curt Warner404	Wendell Tyler389	Chuck Muncie388	Larry Brown387	James Brooks380	Ricky Williams365	**Larry Johnson361	Lawrence McCutcheon339	Ron Johnson334	Earnest Byner331	Chris Warren322	Jamal Anderson319	**Stephen Davis311	Rodney Hampton
Top 65 Wide Receivers
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1607	Jerry Rice809	**Marvin Harrison759	Steve Largent674	**Randy Moss649	**Terrell Owens624	Cris Carter611	James Lofton535	Tim Brown522	Harold Carmichael515	**Torry Holt496	Sterling Sharpe491	Mark Clayton490	**Isaac Bruce487	Cliff Branch471	Harold Jackson462	Michael Irvin432	Wes Chandler432	Gene Washington425	Gary Clark414	Andre Rison410	Andre Reed402	John Stallworth401	Jimmy Smith398	**Rod Smith394	Herman Moore390	John Gilliam388	Mike Quick376	Charlie Joiner345	Stanley Morgan336	Roy Green334	Wesley Walker332	Henry Ellard327	Mark Duper324	**Chad Johnson318	Anthony Miller317	Art Monk315	Drew Hill312	**Joey Galloway311	**Joe Horn311	John Jefferson307	Fred Biletnikoff301	Mel Gray300	Isaac Curtis296	Sammy White294	Dwight Clark291	Ken Burrough289	Drew Pearson285	Tony Hill278	Irving Fryar277	Gary Garrison276	Antonio Freeman271	Alfred Jenkins269	Cris Collinsworth268	Paul Warfield260	Carl Pickens257	Ernest Givins254	Steve Watson254	**Hines Ward250	Charley Taylor245	Lynn Swann242	Nat Moore233	**Steve Smith223	Rich Caster221	**Eric Moulds217	Bob Chandler
Top 25 Tight Ends
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616	Shannon Sharpe574	**Tony Gonzalez492	Kellen Winslow458	Todd Christensen380	Dave Casper377	Ben Coates373	Keith Jackson371	Ozzie Newsome263	**Antonio Gates262	Wesley Walls255	Mark Bavaro226	Raymond Chester221	Brent Jones221	Riley Odoms211	Steve Jordan205	Bob Tucker200	Eric Green198	Ted Kwalick192	Mickey Shuler183	Jay Novacek175	Paul Coffman172	Rodney Holman167	**Todd Heap160	Jimmie Giles157	Doug Cosbie
 
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1332	Emmitt Smith1268	Walter Payton1235	Barry Sanders1164	Marshall Faulk1013	**LaDainian Tomlinson887	Eric Dickerson
Through their first six seasons:
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1013	LaDainian Tomlinson958	Emmitt Smith807	Eric Dickerson743	Shaun Alexander740	Barry Sanders711	Walter Payton704	Thurman Thomas685	Marcus Allen651	Marshall Faulk648	Chuck Foreman
LT sure has a chance to break Emmitt's record.
 
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Jerry Rice was good! :rolleyes:
Yeah he was. Everyone has their favorite Rice stat, but mine is that he's the only receiver in the top 10 all time yards from scrimmage...and he's number one. 1. J Rice 23540 2. E Smith 21579 3. W Payton 21264 4. M Faulk 19154 5. B Sanders 18190 6. M Allen 17654 7. C Martin 17430 8. T Thomas 16532 9. T Dorsett 1629310. T Barber 15631
 
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1332	Emmitt Smith1268	Walter Payton1235	Barry Sanders1164	Marshall Faulk1013	**LaDainian Tomlinson887	Eric Dickerson
Through their first six seasons:
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1013	LaDainian Tomlinson958	Emmitt Smith807	Eric Dickerson743	Shaun Alexander740	Barry Sanders711	Walter Payton704	Thurman Thomas685	Marcus Allen651	Marshall Faulk648	Chuck Foreman
LT sure has a chance to break Emmitt's record.
Emmitt's VBD record or his rushing yards record?I think he has a far greater chance of breaking that VBD record than the rushing record. At his current VBD/season avg. (168.8) he passes Emmitt in two seasons.
 
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1332	Emmitt Smith1268	Walter Payton1235	Barry Sanders1164	Marshall Faulk1013	**LaDainian Tomlinson887	Eric Dickerson
Through their first six seasons:
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1013	LaDainian Tomlinson958	Emmitt Smith807	Eric Dickerson743	Shaun Alexander740	Barry Sanders711	Walter Payton704	Thurman Thomas685	Marcus Allen651	Marshall Faulk648	Chuck Foreman
LT sure has a chance to break Emmitt's record.
Emmitt's VBD record or his rushing yards record?I think he has a far greater chance of breaking that VBD record than the rushing record. At his current VBD/season avg. (168.8) he passes Emmitt in two seasons.
Emmitt and LT have had similar fantasy careers. Both ranked 7th as rookies and 3rd in their second year. Both broke the single season TD record in their sixth season, en route to absolutely monster fantasy years. Both also hit the 200 VBD barrier in their third and sixth seasons.They were also two of only five players to record 2000 carries in six years. Emmitt was never the same fantasy force after his sixth season, and lost a whole chunk of value (but still ranked 6th) in his seventh year; it will be interesting to see how the second half of LT's career compares.
 
How on earth would you even undertake in finding this stuff out. I thought I had a lot of time on my hands.

Thanks, this is good stuff

 
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1332	Emmitt Smith1268	Walter Payton1235	Barry Sanders1164	Marshall Faulk1013	**LaDainian Tomlinson887	Eric Dickerson
Through their first six seasons:
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1013	LaDainian Tomlinson958	Emmitt Smith807	Eric Dickerson743	Shaun Alexander740	Barry Sanders711	Walter Payton704	Thurman Thomas685	Marcus Allen651	Marshall Faulk648	Chuck Foreman
LT sure has a chance to break Emmitt's record.
Emmitt's VBD record or his rushing yards record?I think he has a far greater chance of breaking that VBD record than the rushing record. At his current VBD/season avg. (168.8) he passes Emmitt in two seasons.
Emmitt and LT have had similar fantasy careers. Both ranked 7th as rookies and 3rd in their second year. Both broke the single season TD record in their sixth season, en route to absolutely monster fantasy years. Both also hit the 200 VBD barrier in their third and sixth seasons.They were also two of only five players to record 2000 carries in six years. Emmitt was never the same fantasy force after his sixth season, and lost a whole chunk of value (but still ranked 6th) in his seventh year; it will be interesting to see how the second half of LT's career compares.
Great information. Thanks for your time and effort.I was just wondering - What are the odds that LT will break Emmitt's VBD record? From a statistical standpoint, I'd say substantially less than 50%.For a WR comparison, Randy Moss scored 267 FF points in 2003, with 163 VBD pts in his 6th season. Both of these values are more than Jerry Rice posted in any of his first 6 seasons. In fact, Moss scored 1,322 total FF pts compared to 1,313 for Rice during their first 6 seasons (although Rice had slightly more VBD).After the 2003 season, I remember having the audacity to suggest that Moss might revert more to his average pts per season after his monster season. But many persons were arguing that Moss hadn't even hit his prime. After a monster season, it is virtually impossible to convince anyone "with statistics" that the future for an excellent player is anything other than very bright.LT is a great RB. But I'll be very surprised if he exceeds either Emmitt's rushing or VBD records. Just the law of averages and the probability of a new outlier. For RBs that start their career strong, there's usually a steep falloff after the 6th season. LT might keep going strong, but the odds are against it.Another way to look at it -- of all RBs who have had 6 very strong seasons at the beginning of their career, what has been their performance (individually and combined) after their 6th season? People have a tendency to say that Emmitt did it, so why shouldn't LT do it, too -- and LT is even better than Emmitt? But people forget that Emmitt was one of a small subgroup of RBs who had 6 strong seasons at the beginning of their career. The key issue is what is the experience of all of the other RBs in that subgroup besides Emmitt?For example, how did Dickerson, Sanders, Payton, Thomas, Marcus Allen, Faulk and Foreman do in the rest of their careers (the next 7 best RBs after 6 seasons, excluding S. Alexander)? VBD pts in rest of career (after season 6):Dickerson - 80Sanders - 495Payton - 557Thomas - 152Allen - 199Faulk - 513Foreman - 0For most of the other RBs in the subgroup who had 6 strong seasons at the beginning of their careers, the averages are significantly less than the above. For example, Eddie George had 475 VBD pts in his 1st 6 seasons, but he only had 74, 7 and 0 pts in his next 3 seasons. Shaun Alexander had 743 VBD in his 1st 6 seasons, followed by 0 VBD last season. Ahman Green had 489 VBD in his 1st 6 seasons, followed by seasons of 39, 0 and 18. Fred Taylor had 390 in his 1st 6 seasons, followed by 18, 0 and 14. Dillon had 344 VBD in his 1st 6 seasons, followed by 0, 94, 26 and 13. Edgerrin James had 544 VBD in his 1st 6 seasons, followed by 125 and 13.And then there are the RBs like Terrell Davis and Earl Campbell who posted 600 and 522 VBD, respectively, in their 1st 6 seasons, but who got injured and posted 0 for the rest of their careers.If LT avoids injury for the next 3 seasons, then he's a lock to break Emmitt's career record for VBD. What are the odds that an RB with LT's number of carries and touches avoids injury in his 7th, 8th and 9th seasons? Although LT is exceptional -- again, I'd say less than 50%. JMOSimilar problems occur regularly in player valuation and projections for the next season. It's all too common to place too much emphasis on "last year's performance" and neglect statistical trends and patterns that include the high incidence of injuries and other factors that might lead to lower performance after a monster year. For example, what will be the impact of the change in OCs in SD? Or the statistical trend in substantially lower production in the 7th, 8th and 9th seasons of an RB's career who has been a workhorse in his 1st 6 seasons?
 
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