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Case Keemun; the next Tony Romo? (1 Viewer)

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From obscurity to ff star?

The kid just seems to have That "it" that you can't measure.

Agree or disagree?

 
I'm loving his heart so far, but I want to see him play well for the rest of the season before I crown him.

 
He has very good touch, not the best arm and a great processor as Mayock would say.

 
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There are more guys that are just sitting behind hacks because the coaching staffs are too dumb to figure it out. Case in point, the Raiders. Pryor is total garbage but they will keep trotting out this good for nothing but running pile of garbage. They should throw McGloin in and see what they have.

 
he has a pretty good OL going for him, great RBs (foster and tate best one-two punch in the business?), and outstanding receiving weapons in 'dre johnson, hopkins and owen daniels when healthy...

if he can't succeed in this kind of situation, there aren't likely to be many better in the future...

in some passing stats, romo is in the top 5 all time (YPA and passing YPG averages?), so if meant in more than a casual, being another low/no pedigree QB that succeeds, it would be asking a lot to come anywhere close to approximating romo's body of work (albeit lack of post season success)...

he does look great tonight, and this is a promising start to his career...

 
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Wish I started him instead of Locker. I don't know if it will last though. He is starting to throw to others now but was locking onto AJ in the first half. That'll cost him if he keeps it up.

 
scrumptrulescent said:
Wish I started him instead of Locker. I don't know if it will last though. He is starting to throw to others now but was locking onto AJ in the first half. That'll cost him if he keeps it up.
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No, he's not going to do this every week just like Foles won't go for 7Tds and 400 but you know these guys have it in them. He'll have his growing pains, especially against better Ds on the road but you have to be impressed from what we've seen.

 
scrumptrulescent said:
Wish I started him instead of Locker. I don't know if it will last though. He is starting to throw to others now but was locking onto AJ in the first half. That'll cost him if he keeps it up.
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It's killed Matthew Stafford so far throughout his career.

 
scrumptrulescent said:
Wish I started him instead of Locker. I don't know if it will last though. He is starting to throw to others now but was locking onto AJ in the first half. That'll cost him if he keeps it up.
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Like how Stafford suffers from locking on to Megatron? Or Cutler to Marshall or Dalton to Green most weeks?

I say use your best tool in the shed. It is really simpler than we make it to be sometimes.

 
His tunnel vision for AJ was disconcerting, but the guy is mobile and can sling it. He actually likes to sling it. Give credit to Indy for throwing out all the research they had on a dink and dunk O and covering the deep ball in the second half.

So I have to wonder how Keenum will do next week when the D is going to be ready for the deep ball all game. I feel they snuck up on Indy, and that really only worked for a half. And some terribly blown coverages. AJ's first TD was not because Keenum is a stud, it's because the defender decided giving AJ a 20 yard cushion was a good idea.

I really liked seeing that he could pick up big chunks of yards on the ground. He got 26 last night. 25/game is 400 yards per year. I know, small sample size, but just 20 yards per game is an extra 32 points on the year.

BTW, anyone start him last night? I actually did. Stafford on bye and thought he might outplay Flacco. I'm pretty happy...

 
TheFanatic said:
His tunnel vision for AJ was disconcerting, but the guy is mobile and can sling it. He actually likes to sling it. Give credit to Indy for throwing out all the research they had on a dink and dunk O and covering the deep ball in the second half.

So I have to wonder how Keenum will do next week when the D is going to be ready for the deep ball all game. I feel they snuck up on Indy, and that really only worked for a half. And some terribly blown coverages. AJ's first TD was not because Keenum is a stud, it's because the defender decided giving AJ a 20 yard cushion was a good idea.

I really liked seeing that he could pick up big chunks of yards on the ground. He got 26 last night. 25/game is 400 yards per year. I know, small sample size, but just 20 yards per game is an extra 32 points on the year.

BTW, anyone start him last night? I actually did. Stafford on bye and thought he might outplay Flacco. I'm pretty happy...
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I sort of agree about the first TD, but it had more to do with Davis biting AJ's double move. He was actually playing pretty tight coverage, and it burned him.

 
TheFanatic said:
His tunnel vision for AJ was disconcerting, but the guy is mobile and can sling it. He actually likes to sling it. Give credit to Indy for throwing out all the research they had on a dink and dunk O and covering the deep ball in the second half.

So I have to wonder how Keenum will do next week when the D is going to be ready for the deep ball all game. I feel they snuck up on Indy, and that really only worked for a half. And some terribly blown coverages. AJ's first TD was not because Keenum is a stud, it's because the defender decided giving AJ a 20 yard cushion was a good idea.

I really liked seeing that he could pick up big chunks of yards on the ground. He got 26 last night. 25/game is 400 yards per year. I know, small sample size, but just 20 yards per game is an extra 32 points on the year.

BTW, anyone start him last night? I actually did. Stafford on bye and thought he might outplay Flacco. I'm pretty happy...
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:yes: same situation and logic as you - Stafford's bye week. Over Tannehill.

 
FUBAR said:
TheFanatic said:
His tunnel vision for AJ was disconcerting, but the guy is mobile and can sling it. He actually likes to sling it. Give credit to Indy for throwing out all the research they had on a dink and dunk O and covering the deep ball in the second half.

So I have to wonder how Keenum will do next week when the D is going to be ready for the deep ball all game. I feel they snuck up on Indy, and that really only worked for a half. And some terribly blown coverages. AJ's first TD was not because Keenum is a stud, it's because the defender decided giving AJ a 20 yard cushion was a good idea.

I really liked seeing that he could pick up big chunks of yards on the ground. He got 26 last night. 25/game is 400 yards per year. I know, small sample size, but just 20 yards per game is an extra 32 points on the year.

BTW, anyone start him last night? I actually did. Stafford on bye and thought he might outplay Flacco. I'm pretty happy...
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:yes: same situation and logic as you - Stafford's bye week. Over Tannehill.
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I started him and had Keenum, Andre, Ty and was down by 100 and he had lacy, luck... Now Im up 32 and have crosby and he has Lacy... Was surprised I got 125 from 3 guys LOL... staff was on a bye.

 
Its also noteworthy has he is playing well with basically no threat of a running game to support him. They ran out of RBs against the Chiefs, then against Indy, Foster didn't get a carry and Tate was clearly a shell of himself. If they truly had some of that 1/2 punch from earlier in the season I think it would really open things up for Keenum.

 
jsharlan said:
Its also noteworthy has he is playing well with basically no threat of a running game to support him. They ran out of RBs against the Chiefs, then against Indy, Foster didn't get a carry and Tate was clearly a shell of himself. If they truly had some of that 1/2 punch from earlier in the season I think it would really open things up for Keenum.
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good point, clearly keenum is better or more fit to sling ball around then schaub. Schaub was a good game manager and really didn't do nothing deep or sling it around, as Arian usually led the way when he was in. I think Andre gets a bump and Im still waiting for Graham to have a big week, maybe it will be this week.

 
jsharlan said:
Its also noteworthy has he is playing well with basically no threat of a running game to support him. They ran out of RBs against the Chiefs, then against Indy, Foster didn't get a carry and Tate was clearly a shell of himself. If they truly had some of that 1/2 punch from earlier in the season I think it would really open things up for Keenum.
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I am just restating what was said last night but it is very true:

Keenum's ability to move out of the pocket is massive for the run game in this offense and once Foster and Tate do get healthy, it could be lethal for the entire offense.

If a defense can no long ignore the quarterback rolling and can no longer crash the backside, the cut back lanes will look like the parting of an ocean for Foster.

The only downside is that this season is a lost season and you have to wonder if they won't play out hard or make a point to play Foster when there is nothing to play for, essentially. But overall, just the mobility of Keenum appears to be very promising for the Texans.§

 
Second Sight said:
jsharlan said:
Its also noteworthy has he is playing well with basically no threat of a running game to support him. They ran out of RBs against the Chiefs, then against Indy, Foster didn't get a carry and Tate was clearly a shell of himself. If they truly had some of that 1/2 punch from earlier in the season I think it would really open things up for Keenum.
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I am just restating what was said last night but it is very true:

Keenum's ability to move out of the pocket is massive for the run game in this offense and once Foster and Tate do get healthy, it could be lethal for the entire offense.

If a defense can no long ignore the quarterback rolling and can no longer crash the backside, the cut back lanes will look like the parting of an ocean for Foster.

The only downside is that this season is a lost season and you have to wonder if they won't play out hard or make a point to play Foster when there is nothing to play for, essentially. But overall, just the mobility of Keenum appears to be very promising for the Texans.§
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And Fantasy Owners.

 
Spartans Rule said:
He's not obscure to anyone who follows college football. Guy threw for about 8 billion yards at Houston.
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I mean, I think I could set D1 records if I got to play for 8 years too :P

I like him a lot, and I think he definitely adds to Foster/Tate's value RoS, but he still scares me a little bit.

 
doyler said:
Spartans Rule said:
He's not obscure to anyone who follows college football. Guy threw for about 8 billion yards at Houston.
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I mean, I think I could set D1 records if I got to play for 8 years too :P

I like him a lot, and I think he definitely adds to Foster/Tate's value RoS, but he still scares me a little bit.
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Most non elite qb prospects scare me a little. Now I'm more "scared" to trade him than keep him. At the same point, I don't want to dump my other young qbs yet either.

 
Gvindy said:
Schedule ROS looks amazing
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One of the reasons that I dumped Brady and grabbed Keenum (and Cutler) off the waiver wire last week. I was tired of losing because of Brady's crappy play and worried that I was in too heavy with Patriots passing game (Amendola and Gronk). At least I know the Texans will air it out with Keenum and they have some great matchups left. BB will probably go heavy on the run the next time out. I think the Texans are gonna want to see what they have in Keenum and let him throw it all over the yard for the rest of the season. He's a good candidate for waiver wire gold.

 
TheFanatic said:
His tunnel vision for AJ was disconcerting, but the guy is mobile and can sling it. He actually likes to sling it. Give credit to Indy for throwing out all the research they had on a dink and dunk O and covering the deep ball in the second half.

So I have to wonder how Keenum will do next week when the D is going to be ready for the deep ball all game. I feel they snuck up on Indy, and that really only worked for a half. And some terribly blown coverages. AJ's first TD was not because Keenum is a stud, it's because the defender decided giving AJ a 20 yard cushion was a good idea.

I really liked seeing that he could pick up big chunks of yards on the ground. He got 26 last night. 25/game is 400 yards per year. I know, small sample size, but just 20 yards per game is an extra 32 points on the year.

BTW, anyone start him last night? I actually did. Stafford on bye and thought he might outplay Flacco. I'm pretty happy...
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Nope, had Foles in the lineup with Keaspernick on bye and I was outbid on Pryor and Campbell so I was forced to start Foles, better to be lucky than good.

 
Debating snagging him on waiver this week. I have Kaepernick, but his matchups scare me. Keenum, with that schedule might be worth it.

 
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