Casserly: No team wants Vince Young as a starter (1 Viewer)

[Summer Wheat]

A little surprising to hear this news.

 

[Doug B]

But ... but ... Vince Young wins. What Casserly says cannot be true.

 

[Coin Flip]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

 

[Mr. Retukes]

But ... but ... Vince Young wins. What Casserly says cannot be true.

It probably isn't. There probably are a few teams that would want Young as a starter, but they have no intention of making that desire public at this point.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

He openly doesn't listen to his coaches. He pouts/quits when he doesn't get his way. He thought about killing himself. Would you want to trust him as your starting QB?

 

[cdwood]

I wouldn't want him as the leader for my team. The teams that are looking for a starting QB are probably bad teams that will use the draft as their first opportunity to get a QB and then look at free agency.

 

[clarkstonwolves]

He openly doesn't listen to his coaches. He pouts/quits when he doesn't get his way. He thought about killing himself. Would you want to trust him as your starting QB?

You forgot one other thing that he does..... He gets in back-room fights at strip joints! Don't recall Either Manning brother, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or any other classy QB having such a long list of troubles. He'll get the kind of contract and respect that he has earned. Life works that way for most of us.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

But ... but ... Vince Young wins. What Casserly says cannot be true.

It probably isn't. There probably are a few teams that would want Young as a starter, but they have no intention of making that desire public at this point.

 

[Summer Wheat]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

 

[D'OHtis]

But ... but ... Vince Young wins. What Casserly says cannot be true.

It probably isn't. There probably are a few teams that would want Young as a starter, but they have no intention of making that desire public at this point.

His record as starter speaks for itself. Looking at some QB situations around the league, I expect him to start somewhere in 2011

 

[MAC_32]

Obviously not to Vick's degree, but if he stands a shot in this league he has to be kicked down first like he was. Unlike Vick, I don't think Vince can mentally handle that though. If he can't work with a coach with a rep like Fish I don't see how any other reputible coach will take a shot and an up-and-coming coach would probably get buried by a guy like Vince.

He may win some games, but titles won't be won with him under center. Ok...maybe the NFC West.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Money could be a big issue as well. Teams that are courting Young as a backup will be paying backup type money. If it works out that he ends up starting it is good value for the team.

 

[David Dodds]

When the QB is among the highest paid positions on your team, most owners want a QB to be the face of their organization. They are on the media program, constantly getting interviewed, etc. It's more than just playing the position on Sunday. If I was an owner I wouldn't consider Vince Young at this stage of his career. Way too many immature things continually keep coming up with him to be the face of my organization. Add that to a known horrible Wonderlic score and I do see most organizations passing here.

 

[Rick James]

Vince is soft.

 

[Banger]

Not really a surprise to me. It's not about talent, it's about mental stability, leadership and work ethic. Maybe he'll learn a lesson from all of this but I doubt he will.

 

[njherdfan]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

My sarcasm detector might be off, but really? You think he'd be a better backup than Shaun Hill?

 

[TheWheel]

To the Eagles for Kolb with a first rounder and some future picks leaving with VY

 

[Your Mom]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

My sarcasm detector might be off, but really? You think he'd be a better backup than Shaun Hill?

Agree. You really would want to deal with Vince Young when Hill has showed to be a very capable back-up?

 

[Eastwood]

As a Redskins fan, I'd rather have Rex than Young. That tells you how little I think of him as a franchise QB (and yes I'm praying the Skins draft a new QB)

 

[massraider]

Bud Adams is/was a bigger fanboy of Young than the biggest Longhorn homer, and he has made it clear that Young won't be back, Fisher or no Fisher.

The few remaining members of Young's fan club should probably stop posting QB ratings and so forth, quietly retreat into the background, and hope people don't bump their posts as Young finishes out his Leftwich-like career.

The guy has a head full of crap, works slightly harder than JaMarcus Russell, and and is going to be unceremoniously dumped by the guy that believed in him more than anyone. Sometimes that quacking, waddling, paddling duck-like animal is actually a duck.

Maybe I am wrong. If so, I suspect that now that Adams has made it clear Young is going (oddly giving up all of his trade leverage), there will be a series of frantic phone calls as teams try and get this 'above-average' starting QB for mere pennies on the dollar. I look forward to the bidding war.

 

[lod01]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

Calvin Johnson owner: GTFO

 

[lod01]

But ... but ... Vince Young wins. What Casserly says cannot be true.

It probably isn't. There probably are a few teams that would want Young as a starter, but they have no intention of making that desire public at this point.

His record as starter speaks for itself. Looking at some QB situations around the league, I expect him to start somewhere in 2011

You like Rex Grossman too? He's not far behind in win %. He singlehandedly took the Bears to the superbowl based on your statement that Vince Young wins games. The Titans won the games with Vince Young at QB. Also, Kerry Collins won 13 for them one year.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

Calvin Johnson owner: GTFO

Surprising answer. Young has done a great job with the long ball. Sure VY might be a team cancer, but Calvin's production would be fine.

 

[massraider]

His record as starter speaks for itself

I think his current situation speaks for itself.

 

[-fish-]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

 

[lod01]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

Calvin Johnson owner: GTFO

Surprising answer. Young has done a great job with the long ball. Sure VY might be a team cancer, but Calvin's production would be fine.

Calvin owners don't want just the long ball. They want lots of targets and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Netv_xRnyGoVince Young couldn't dream of making the 1st throw. His noodle arm would have produced an INT.

 

[Summer Wheat]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

 

[massraider]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Please. What would Kevin Mawae know?

 

[faulkfan]

I am not a Vince Young fan at all.......but I do think he makes a nice backup and on one of those teams that actually use their backups......like to back up Stafford who is constantly injured.....or SF or AZ.....but I also think SF and AZ find solid starters soon so they wont be looking to use their backups as often or EVER

I would like to see the Lions bring in Young to backup Stafford.

Let's be honest...no one backs up Stafford, they only wait a couple games until he is hurt and then play. Stafford's backup is essentially a starter because he is going to get hurt the first time someone falls on his shoulder.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Sounds perfect for the Raiders.

 

[Joe Summer]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Huh. So I guess all he needs to do now is cut off his sleeves and start wearing some thick black glasses.

 

[Bri]

ha!

sorry that's all I have to say

 

[Sweet Love]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Huh. So I guess all he needs to do now is cut off his sleeves and start wearing some thick black glasses.

Are you going Malcolm X or Geek Squad on this one?

 

[Bri]

The guy has a head full of crap, works slightly harder than JaMarcus Russell, and and is going to be unceremoniously dumped by the guy that believed in him more than anyone. Sometimes that quacking, waddling, paddling duck-like animal is actually a duck.

this

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

 

[az_prof]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

For a fraction of his salary, say $200,000, I can teach him how to read his wristband. I promise.

 

[jimmy b]

He openly doesn't listen to his coaches. He pouts/quits when he doesn't get his way. He thought about killing himself. Would you want to trust him as your starting QB?

You forgot one other thing that he does..... He gets in back-room fights at strip joints! Don't recall Either Manning brother, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or any other classy QB having such a long list of troubles. He'll get the kind of contract and respect that he has earned. Life works that way for most of us.

Ben Roethlisberger

 

[hostile]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Didnt VY score a 6 or something like that on his Wonderlic?I have heard this before Mawae came forward with this info this season though... VY is far from the sharpest pencil in the box.

 

[delusional]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Didnt VY score a 6 or something like that on his Wonderlic?I have heard this before Mawae came forward with this info this season though... VY is far from the sharpest pencil in the box.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. Its amazing these athletes get through college while playing football.

To the Eagles for Kolb with a first rounder and some future picks leaving with VY

Uh hell no. Id rather have McNabb back as the #2 then Vince Young anywhere near this team. Their offense is hard enough the way it is ( too hard I think ), he would get lost just walking to the practice field.

 

[FUBAR]

To the Eagles for Kolb with a first rounder and some future picks leaving with VY

Uh hell no. Id rather have McNabb back as the #2 then Vince Young anywhere near this team. Their offense is hard enough the way it is ( too hard I think ), he would get lost just walking to the practice field.

my first thought was along the same lines as Diesel, but then I remembered how hard it is for rookies to get playing time because they usually don't get the offense quickly. VY would be lost even if it sounds good on paper.

 

[Doug B]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

Whatver, Mawae. Vince Young has a winning record as a starter. That trumps anything else. We all know how much football is like tennis and golf and relies on the abilities of a single trancendent player who can carry the other 53 guys on his back each week.

 

[Warpig]

With his mental status being the major issue, if he doesn't get a starting gig somewhere, I wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself. While that is terrible to say, the guy said he thought about it earlier in his career.

Athletically gifted, but a total nut job. Wonder if Al Davis will give him a shot?

 

[Sinrman]

Who WOULD want him? Constant headache. Even if I'm a team that needs a QB badly, I'd look in FA or draft/groom one...

 

[Bri]

my first thought was along the same lines as Diesel, but then I remembered how hard it is for rookies to get playing time because they usually don't get the offense quickly. VY would be lost even if it sounds good on paper.

Actually it's the opposite. The Titans gave Vince a very vanilla offense as a rook and to many that was the best he ever played as a pro winning ROY or OROY and rattling off 7 or 8 straight wins.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I think its a bit early to write off VY. Mawae's comments are definitely an eye opener, but given the number of teams that need QBs he'll find a job. It would seem very likely however, that whatever team he does go to won't put all their eggs in the VY basket.

Regarding Mawae's comments as well, how in the world could VY make it to this point in his life as a functional illiterate? I get it happens in HS and sometimes in college. The Titans' gave him a 58 Million dollar contract and guaranteed 26 Million of it. With that kind of investment in a player, don't you think they'd hire someone to help him with some fundamentals? To me, its the Titans' fault if they didn't get him up to speed.

Best thing that could happen to VY would be to go to a team with a top notch QB coach. Something like Vick going to Philly. If Holmgren becomes HC in Cleveland, it may make a ton of sense for VY to go there.

 

[FUBAR]

my first thought was along the same lines as Diesel, but then I remembered how hard it is for rookies to get playing time because they usually don't get the offense quickly. VY would be lost even if it sounds good on paper.

Actually it's the opposite. The Titans gave Vince a very vanilla offense as a rook and to many that was the best he ever played as a pro winning ROY or OROY and rattling off 7 or 8 straight wins.

How is this the opposite? VY cannot run a complicated offense, the Eagles have a complicated offense. Ergo, bad match.ETA: I was referring to Eagles rookies when I stated it was hard for them to get playing time, not rookies in general.

 

[Bri]

my first thought was along the same lines as Diesel, but then I remembered how hard it is for rookies to get playing time because they usually don't get the offense quickly. VY would be lost even if it sounds good on paper.

Actually it's the opposite. The Titans gave Vince a very vanilla offense as a rook and to many that was the best he ever played as a pro winning ROY or OROY and rattling off 7 or 8 straight wins.

How is this the opposite? VY cannot run a complicated offense, the Eagles have a complicated offense. Ergo, bad match.ETA: I was referring to Eagles rookies when I stated it was hard for them to get playing time, not rookies in general.

"how hard it was for rookies" "Vince's best year"

 

[Rick James]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

Whatver, Mawae. Vince Young has a winning record as a starter. That trumps anything else. We all know how much football is like tennis and golf and relies on the abilities of a single trancendent player who can carry the other 53 guys on his back each week.

lol, like Chris Johnson

 

[Donsmith753]

I wouldn't want Vince as a backup. Aren't typical league backups guys that study and play hard but may not have the best physical skills, I dont think he's cut out for that.

 

[msommer]

I was listening to a radio interview with Kevin Mawae, who implied that Vince Young's biggest problem is that he's functionally illiterate. He said he can't correctly read plays off his wristband, and often called the wrong play after it was called in. He said the offense had to know the situation and the expected playcall, and that usually they could correct it, but sometimes they couldn't. He said Young was a great athlete but that he didn't think any team could win with him at QB.

Wow

Whatver, Mawae. Vince Young has a winning record as a starter. That trumps anything else. We all know how much football is like tennis and golf and relies on the abilities of a single trancendent player who can carry the other 53 guys on his back each week.

You're probably right. Vince can be that proverbial 54th guy on the team.