CC Sabathia - Is your team interested? (1 Viewer)

[Bobcat10]

We've trialed this in the Yankees thread with much success.

Hughes, Kennedy and Tabata plus at least 1other b-level prospect (no chance, but I wonder about Hughes+Tabata+prospect)

Tabata, Kennedy, Melky/Jackson (is it enough?)

Hughes and Cano (no chance)

Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton?

Philly fans, what you got? Carrasco (or maybe Savery) + that 2b prospect you have? Howard? (hey I heard a stupid rumor).

Boston, ChC, LAA, Texas.....

Who else? Let's make a deal!

 

[Green94]

Is this team going to be officially blown up?

 

[shadyridr]

Indians have said if they trade him they will not offer the team a 72 hour window to negotiate an extension. Doesnt that just hurt the value theyll get back?

 

[Bobcat10]

Is this team going to be officially blown up?

This is better suited for the Tribe thread....but if nothing changes, short answer is........sort of.They will attempt to trade guys like Byrd, Borowski, Betancourt, Blake...maybe Dellucci and Peralta.....and of course CC possibly. Most of these guys are free agents, so I don't think that's blowing anything up. Besides CC, I think Byrd and Blake would get the most attention.Guys like Francisco, Choo, Gutierrez, Sizemore, Victor, Hafner, Cabrera, Garko, Shoppach and the rest of the staff should be safe.

 

[Bobcat10]

Indians have said if they trade him they will not offer the team a 72 hour window to negotiate an extension. Doesnt that just hurt the value theyll get back?

Debatable. I don't know for sure.What I'm thinking.....if the demand for him is high (not just all the media flub that's out there) that will set his price high no matter what. So in that case, I don't think offering the window matters.The real question to me is, why are the Indians not offering the window? They want to make a run at him this offseason?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

We've trialed this in the Yankees thread with much success.Hughes, Kennedy and Tabata plus at least 1other b-level prospect (no chance, but I wonder about Hughes+Tabata+prospect)Tabata, Kennedy, Melky/Jackson (is it enough?)Hughes and Cano (no chance)Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton? Philly fans, what you got? Carrasco (or maybe Savery) + that 2b prospect you have? Howard? (hey I heard a stupid rumor).Boston, ChC, LAA, Texas.....Who else? Let's make a deal!

I'll give you Kennedy and money. Best offer.

 

[Bobcat10]

We've trialed this in the Yankees thread with much success.Hughes, Kennedy and Tabata plus at least 1other b-level prospect (no chance, but I wonder about Hughes+Tabata+prospect)Tabata, Kennedy, Melky/Jackson (is it enough?)Hughes and Cano (no chance)Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton? Philly fans, what you got? Carrasco (or maybe Savery) + that 2b prospect you have? Howard? (hey I heard a stupid rumor).Boston, ChC, LAA, Texas.....Who else? Let's make a deal!

I'll give you Kennedy and money. Best offer.

Rather have two draft picks next June. Thanks for playing.

 

[MAC_32]

Is this team going to be officially blown up?

Not yet, but it's getting close; the brooming in Colorado definitely pushed them closer to the edge.

 

[Billy Bats]

Philly fans, what you got? Carrasco (or maybe Savery) + that 2b prospect you have? Howard? (hey I heard a stupid rumor).

Carrasco OR Savery and Cardenas?? SOLD! Where did you hear that Howard rumor?!

 

[Statorama]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

 

[TitusIII]

If/When Big Z is shut down for the season, the Cubs will put a respectable offer on the table...

I don't think any team is going to "rob" the Indians here...

 

[wadegarrett]

If/When Big Z is shut down for the season, the Cubs will put a respectable offer on the table...

I don't think any team is going to "rob" the Indians here...

Nor do I.I see him going to the Cubs or Phillies.

 

[Bobcat10]

Philly fans, what you got? Carrasco (or maybe Savery) + that 2b prospect you have? Howard? (hey I heard a stupid rumor).

Carrasco OR Savery and Cardenas?? SOLD! Where did you hear that Howard rumor?!

3rd hand...supposedly from some Philly boards. I'm sure there is nothing to it.Cardenas, that's his name. How about all three of them?

 

[Bobcat10]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

I think the Cubs have to step up more than that. I see the Tribe having little interest in Pie. And I hear Hill can't even keep people off the bases in AAA.I've heard the Cubs will be very interested, but will not have the goods to get anything done. I put them near the bottom of the likely to land CC list if he's moved.

 

[wadegarrett]

NL bonus: C.C. crushed a HR today.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

 

[Sea Bass]

Red Sox will attempt to raise the ante so that someone will overpay for his services.

 

[SuperAwesomeDude]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Who knows with the Yankees. If I'm Cleveland...I'm not taking all prospects....I'm going with a mix of prospects and a player or two who can play right now. I can't imagine the Yankees would be able to get him away without making Hughes part of the deal...(although if there is no window to sign him...I don't know ifI make the move at all).

The Phillies are an interesting team.....and I think that they could get him if they wanted to ( I'm thinking a deal that includes their number one prospect....another upper level prospect....Brett Myers and maybe one more player) but I also don't see them making that kind of deal if they can't resign him. Plus, at the end of this year they have to hammer a deal out for Lidge and decide whether or not to keep Pat Burrell....so CC might be a little too out of their price range.

 

[Bogart]

ESPN seems to think the Rangers are interested, somehow the 4th most likely team to get him. I hope Jon Daniels stays away from renting him for this season. This is a .500 team and adding one pitcher at the cost of a huge group of prospects. Let someone rent him this season, go and try to sign him long term in the off-season.

 

[boubucarow]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

Heck, if i was in charge of the Cubs, I would trade almost anybody in the minor leagues to get CC. I would trade any three person combo of Marshall, Pie, Hill, Veal, Vitters, Colvin, Donaldson, Thomas, etc... I wouldn't trade Gallagher since he already is a solid MLB starter. Indian fans, would you accept any three person combo of those I listed for CC?

 

[wadegarrett]

ESPN's Buster Olney recently ranked the Cubs second to Milwaukee in the Sabathia derby. If the resurgent Brewers, who are 18-7 since May 26, do make a run for Cleveland's ace, it could spark a bidding war between them and the Cubs.

 

[shadyridr]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

Heck, if i was in charge of the Cubs, I would trade almost anybody in the minor leagues to get CC. I would trade any three person combo of Marshall, Pie, Hill, Veal, Vitters, Colvin, Donaldson, Thomas, etc... I wouldn't trade Gallagher since he already is a solid MLB starter. Indian fans, would you accept any three person combo of those I listed for CC?

If the Cubs are trading for CC theyre better off holding onto these 2 cuz he'll be hungry

 

[SuperAwesomeDude]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

Heck, if i was in charge of the Cubs, I would trade almost anybody in the minor leagues to get CC. I would trade any three person combo of Marshall, Pie, Hill, Veal, Vitters, Colvin, Donaldson, Thomas, etc... I wouldn't trade Gallagher since he already is a solid MLB starter. Indian fans, would you accept any three person combo of those I listed for CC?

If the Cubs are trading for CC theyre better off holding onto these 2 cuz he'll be hungry

nice

 

[Tecumseh]

ESPN's Buster Olney recently ranked the Cubs second to Milwaukee in the Sabathia derby. If the resurgent Brewers, who are 18-7 since May 26, do make a run for Cleveland's ace, it could spark a bidding war between them and the Cubs.

If he's gotta go, it sure would be nice if he went to the NL.

 

[DoubleG]

ESPN's Buster Olney recently ranked the Cubs second to Milwaukee in the Sabathia derby. If the resurgent Brewers, who are 18-7 since May 26, do make a run for Cleveland's ace, it could spark a bidding war between them and the Cubs.

If he's gotta go, it sure would be nice if he went to the NL.

As a Cub fan, I'm hoping the tribe feel the same way. The Cubs will easily offer a choice of:Marshall (whose auditioning the next two starts), Hill and possibly Gallagher (pick one)PLUS one (or more) of the followingie, Cedeno, Fontenot, Murton, and perhaps PattersonPLUS probably throw in minor leaguers:Jason Dubois or Andres Torres (Dubois has 8 HRs in 70 ABs and 1.049 OPS - Torres is a switch hitting OF whose hitting .315 and has speed and power). They may even include Hoffpauir instead of one of the two minor league OF if needed to get it done.If I'm the Indians, I start out asking for Gallagher, Pie and Hoff. The Cubs will likely counter with Marshall or Hill + Cedeno + Dubois - after that, it's anyone's guess.

 

[wadegarrett]

It's that time: Whither C.C.?

Dennis Manoloff

Cleveland Plain Dealer

June 24, 2008

Baseball general managers are always on the spot, never more so than with the trade deadline approaching. Decisions at the deadline can help set a team's course for years.

Trying to figure out what to do at the July 31 deadline - particularly when a big-name player is involved - becomes a multilayered process.

Indians General Manager Mark Shapiro can attest. He went through it in 2002 with Bartolo Colon and is in it again with C.C. Sabathia.

Here is a capsule look at what Shapiro must consider as he contemplates whether to move Sabathia, the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner and potential free agent, at the end of the season.

First, assuming the preferred option is to keep Sabathia: Is it a certainty the Indians will not be able to re-sign him?

This requires a study of the market and grasp of the team's payroll, budget and projected revenues.

Are Sabathia's demands definitely beyond what the Indians can/want to meet - length of contract being almost as important as total dollars? Will Sabathia accept a hometown discount? If so, how much?

If it is determined that retaining Sabathia will not happen, Shapiro needs to decide whether to let him walk for draft-pick compensation or trade him. That depends largely on how the Indians are doing.

Shapiro must determine if his 2008 club has a shot at the Central Division or wild card with Sabathia pitching every fifth day. If the Indians have underachieved to date, can they turn it around in time, especially as several key players come back from injury?

Assuming the answer is the Indians are not a playoff team, Shapiro must get the word out that Sabathia is available. Before fielding offers, though, Shapiro needs to determine whether his club is in rebuild or reload mode.

If it's the former, his search could tilt toward prospects. If it's the latter, his search likely will target major-leaguers or prospects ready to make an impact now.

Shapiro already has been through a rebuild, which he triggered in the summer of 2002 with the trade of Colon one month before the nonwaiver deadline. He has given no indication he wants to do it again. The fan base no doubt would be restless and annoyed if he did.

Once Shapiro has a handle on the experience level of the players he wants and the holes he would like to fill, he can entertain offers. Shapiro will need to decide whether to trade within the American League, thereby risking having to face Sabathia in the regular season and postseason.

Shapiro will need to dissect the rosters of, and dispatch scouts to, every team that wants in on the Sabathia sweepstakes. The list of potential suitors should not be too long, though, given that deep pockets will be required to sign him. A team that simply wants to rent him won't be willing to part with as much as a team willing to lock him up.

Two criteria in identifying players: major-league service time and contract status. The players Shapiro wants presumably need to fit into the Indians' budget.

Then Shapiro needs to decide how he wants to play the sweepstakes. Does he want to pit one team against the other, or simply jump at the chance when the right group of players is presented?

Shapiro also must decide what other Indians, or minor-leaguers, he wants to part with, because teams in the market for a four-star talent typically ask for complementary pieces to compensate for numbers moving in the other direction.

 

[Bobcat10]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

Heck, if i was in charge of the Cubs, I would trade almost anybody in the minor leagues to get CC. I would trade any three person combo of Marshall, Pie, Hill, Veal, Vitters, Colvin, Donaldson, Thomas, etc... I wouldn't trade Gallagher since he already is a solid MLB starter. Indian fans, would you accept any three person combo of those I listed for CC?

The way you put this is the way I'm thinking from the Indians perspected, especially if Gallagher is not part of the deal. I understand why Buster puts them 2nd in the CC sweepstakes for interest alone, but if the Cubs get in a war with 1 to 3 other teams, I don't see how the Cubs make it work. Other teams have more to offer imo...although I'll be the first to admit I don't know anything about Veal, Colvin, Donaldson and Thomas. Still some time for the Tribe to make people believers again, but the pattern lately has been much of the same.

 

[boubucarow]

Felix Pie and Rich Hill from the Cubs should get this thing done.

If I were Cleveland I would want Marshall and Gallagher.

gallagher is looking like the real deal. id hate to see him go. marshall has got the stuff. but if it nets CC. hells yeah. we will see.

Heck, if i was in charge of the Cubs, I would trade almost anybody in the minor leagues to get CC. I would trade any three person combo of Marshall, Pie, Hill, Veal, Vitters, Colvin, Donaldson, Thomas, etc... I wouldn't trade Gallagher since he already is a solid MLB starter. Indian fans, would you accept any three person combo of those I listed for CC?

The way you put this is the way I'm thinking from the Indians perspected, especially if Gallagher is not part of the deal. I understand why Buster puts them 2nd in the CC sweepstakes for interest alone, but if the Cubs get in a war with 1 to 3 other teams, I don't see how the Cubs make it work. Other teams have more to offer imo...although I'll be the first to admit I don't know anything about Veal, Colvin, Donaldson and Thomas. Still some time for the Tribe to make people believers again, but the pattern lately has been much of the same.

The Cubs farm system is high on hope but has little substance really. They have plenty of AAAA to regular MLB starter types like Murton or Cedeno. In the farm system, there is a lot more hope then. Tyler Colvin is considered the second best prospect in the system but has bombed so far this year. Josh Vitters is #1 but hasn't shown why yet. Donaldson is a catcher who lit short-season ball on fire last year but is struggling this year in low A. Thomas did similar to Donaldson last year but is maintaining some decent numbers in high A at second base. Veal has the potential to be a solid upper rotation starter but can't find the strike zone to save his life sometimes.There is no big time prospect who has proven why he is a big time prospect in the Cubs system. I have a feeling that Sabathia will become a Cub only if the other suitors refuse to part with such players. If the Brewers offer a Matt LaPorta, it's over. Even if not, a player like shortstop Alcides Escobar at this point is a better prospect than anyone in the Cubs system.

 

[B Maverick]

Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton?

I wouldnt do it as a Dodger fan. As good as CC is, that is way too much to offer. Kershaw and Billingsly are future aces. Kuroda is solid at 4 and Penny when healthy again is also an ace. Lowe is a decent #4/5 and they have some decent pitching prospects in the minors.Broxton is a closer in waiting and since Saito is 35 and not looking great, they need to keep their 8th inning guy and future closer.Kemp has the potential to be a 40/40 guy. If they would take a package of Laroche and Hu we could start there. With the trade for Berroa and with Dewitt showing he can play, both are expendable.Heck, would be willing to toss in Pierre just to get rid of him.

 

[wadegarrett]

Sabathia is 3-0 with a 1.13 ERA over his last four starts. In 13 starts since April 22, the left-hander is 6-5 with a 1.96 ERA, 104 strikeouts and 18 walks.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton?

I wouldnt do it as a Dodger fan. As good as CC is, that is way too much to offer. Kershaw and Billingsly are future aces. Kuroda is solid at 4 and Penny when healthy again is also an ace. Lowe is a decent #4/5 and they have some decent pitching prospects in the minors.Broxton is a closer in waiting and since Saito is 35 and not looking great, they need to keep their 8th inning guy and future closer.Kemp has the potential to be a 40/40 guy. If they would take a package of Laroche and Hu we could start there. With the trade for Berroa and with Dewitt showing he can play, both are expendable.Heck, would be willing to toss in Pierre just to get rid of him.

I wouldn't offer that either. The problem with the Dodgers right now (and for as long as I can remember) is hitting. Renting CC for the rest of the season might win them the West, given how all the teams have struggled, but it won't give them a team that will win in October. With Furcal, Nomar, and Jones all starting rehab assignments soon, they would be better off not pulling the trigger. Instead, they should hope their starting pitching holds up (Eric Stults?!) and look to deal Penny and a bat to get a hitter that will improve their lineup.

 

[Bojang0301]

Without reading anything I would say the Rays, A's and Angels are the most likely candidates.

 

[Celph Titled]

Without reading anything I would say the Rays, A's and Angels are the most likely candidates.

Less than a 1% chance that the A's would do this. No sense in trading away an ace for prospects, then giving those same prospects back to rent a different ace for a shorter amount of time.

 

[B Maverick]

Dodgers fans, what you got? Kemp+Broxton?

I wouldnt do it as a Dodger fan. As good as CC is, that is way too much to offer. Kershaw and Billingsly are future aces. Kuroda is solid at 4 and Penny when healthy again is also an ace. Lowe is a decent #4/5 and they have some decent pitching prospects in the minors.Broxton is a closer in waiting and since Saito is 35 and not looking great, they need to keep their 8th inning guy and future closer.Kemp has the potential to be a 40/40 guy. If they would take a package of Laroche and Hu we could start there. With the trade for Berroa and with Dewitt showing he can play, both are expendable.Heck, would be willing to toss in Pierre just to get rid of him.

I wouldn't offer that either. The problem with the Dodgers right now (and for as long as I can remember) is hitting. Renting CC for the rest of the season might win them the West, given how all the teams have struggled, but it won't give them a team that will win in October. With Furcal, Nomar, and Jones all starting rehab assignments soon, they would be better off not pulling the trigger. Instead, they should hope their starting pitching holds up (Eric Stults?!) and look to deal Penny and a bat to get a hitter that will improve their lineup.

I would deal Lowe before Penny, esp since I believe Lowe is a FA at the end of the season. Furcal needs to get back quick. He is whats missing. Get him back at the top, Pierre can move to the bottom until Jones comes back.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Without reading anything I would say the Rays, A's and Angels are the most likely candidates.

One of the guys on ESPN said that the Rays would be willing to trade for him without negotiating a contract....that they would be content with the draft picks.

 

[wadegarrett]

Without reading anything I would say the Rays, A's and Angels are the most likely candidates.

One of the guys on ESPN said that the Rays would be willing to trade for him without negotiating a contract....that they would be content with the draft picks.

Read in SI that the Rays could trade top prospects for CC and still have the best farm system in the majors.

 

[Bobcat10]

Without reading anything I would say the Rays, A's and Angels are the most likely candidates.

One of the guys on ESPN said that the Rays would be willing to trade for him without negotiating a contract....that they would be content with the draft picks.

Read in SI that the Rays could trade top prospects for CC and still have the best farm system in the majors.

This really makes alot of sense. Tribe better pick right if they deal with TB, at least half of those arms the Rays pimp will falter.Over the next few days/weeks, I think the major players will be, in no particular order, TB-MIL-LAA-PHI.

 

[Capella]

If the Rays were to get involved, I imagine it would be centered around Wade Davis and Reid Brignac. They're not going to give up David Price, so Wade is the next-best guy after that.

I imagine Davis, Brignac and a lower-level guy would do it. Not sure the Rays want to pull that trigger though.

 

[Angry Beavers]

I would be really surprised if the Brewers did not make an offer at some point. I would be further surprised if theydid not include Gamel in the discussion

 

[Flash]

Prince Fielder for CC

 

[Statorama]

I would be really surprised if the Brewers did not make an offer at some point. I would be further surprised if theydid not include Gamel in the discussion

The recent chatter includes LaPorta.The Brewers better be damn sure they're going to make the playoffs if they move that guy. Watching him put up Ryan Braun type numbers every year for Cleveland would suuuuuu-uuuuuck if there was no 2008 payoff.

 

[Capella]

I would be stunned if they moved LaPorta for a rental. I think teams are getting over that attitude.

 

[Knightro]

Milwaukee has a logjam coming up.

They can't move Braun back to 3B because he was a butcher so that leaves them Braun, Hart, and Cameron for now. Cameron is only on a one year deal with a club option. Hart could possibly play CF but it wouldn't be pretty. Then again, Milwaukee doesn't care about defense.

Assuming that Braun and Hart both stay at the corners, where does Milwaukee play LaPorta and other stud prospect Mat Gamel? Gamel "plays" 3B on the farm right now but he makes Braun look like a good 3B so he has to go to the OF. Even if you assume Fielder wants out due to contract squabbles, that still only makes room for one of them.

Milwaukee can't trade LaPorta with the Fielder situation like it is so Gamel is the primary guy to be dealt. They don't have too much else the Indians would want outside of pothead Jeremy Jeffress who can pitch like Dwight Gooden at times (yes, he could be good).

 

[culdeus]

David Murphy

Nelson Cruz

Matt Harrison

Best I think Tejas would offer. Might throw in laird if you need another option at C.

 

[Knightro]

David MurphyNelson CruzMatt HarrisonBest I think Tejas would offer. Might throw in laird if you need another option at C.

that would be one hell of a deal compared to landing 2 draft picks the Indians haven't exactly done well with of late.Cruz needs to be out of AAA - he has nothing left to prove there. He could be helping a major league team, with his bat, right now.

 

[Flash]

I would be stunned if they moved LaPorta for a rental. I think teams are getting over that attitude.

Exactly. Fielder is an AL type player. He is a DH more than a first baseman. He belongs in the AL.I hope they ship him to Cleveland in some type of deal for CC.

 

[culdeus]

David MurphyNelson CruzMatt HarrisonBest I think Tejas would offer. Might throw in laird if you need another option at C.

that would be one hell of a deal compared to landing 2 draft picks the Indians haven't exactly done well with of late.Cruz needs to be out of AAA - he has nothing left to prove there. He could be helping a major league team, with his bat, right now.

Would also think some sort of deal would have to be in place. This is a team building for a big run in 09.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Milwaukee has a logjam coming up.They can't move Braun back to 3B because he was a butcher so that leaves them Braun, Hart, and Cameron for now. Cameron is only on a one year deal with a club option. Hart could possibly play CF but it wouldn't be pretty. Then again, Milwaukee doesn't care about defense.Assuming that Braun and Hart both stay at the corners, where does Milwaukee play LaPorta and other stud prospect Mat Gamel? Gamel "plays" 3B on the farm right now but he makes Braun look like a good 3B so he has to go to the OF. Even if you assume Fielder wants out due to contract squabbles, that still only makes room for one of them.Milwaukee can't trade LaPorta with the Fielder situation like it is so Gamel is the primary guy to be dealt. They don't have too much else the Indians would want outside of pothead Jeremy Jeffress who can pitch like Dwight Gooden at times (yes, he could be good).

Which is exactly why sending gamel as part of a deal for CC makes perfect sense. Gamel is a butcher and Hafner may never rebound. The Indians would have to get more than Gamel, and maybe CC for LaPorta is all is takes. For those that cry LaPorta and Gamel are future studs, realize that they are both in AA ball right now. They very well could be studs, but there is a big difference in hitting Major League pitching and AA pitching.

 

[Statorama]

Milwaukee has a logjam coming up.They can't move Braun back to 3B because he was a butcher so that leaves them Braun, Hart, and Cameron for now. Cameron is only on a one year deal with a club option. Hart could possibly play CF but it wouldn't be pretty. Then again, Milwaukee doesn't care about defense.Assuming that Braun and Hart both stay at the corners, where does Milwaukee play LaPorta and other stud prospect Mat Gamel? Gamel "plays" 3B on the farm right now but he makes Braun look like a good 3B so he has to go to the OF. Even if you assume Fielder wants out due to contract squabbles, that still only makes room for one of them.Milwaukee can't trade LaPorta with the Fielder situation like it is so Gamel is the primary guy to be dealt. They don't have too much else the Indians would want outside of pothead Jeremy Jeffress who can pitch like Dwight Gooden at times (yes, he could be good).

Gamel is the guy that makes sense to move. He's so brutal defensively that he could be playing DH and make an error, but the bat is for real. I don't know if he nets you CC though.I think Fielder will get moved in the offseason if they can't hammer out an extension, with LaPorta moving to 1B. Fielder is a known commodity, and (I believe) is tied up until 2010 or 2011, which would make him a very hot property in the offseason.A deal involving LaPorta would be able to net a bunch of spare parts from the Indians (some combo of Dellucci, Carroll, Borowski, Paul Byrd, Andy Marte, etc) in addition to CC for a playoff run. But really, the only way LaPorta gets moved is if the return bounty damn near guarantees the Brewers a World Series berth. I don't think a CC/Frankenstien deal does that for Milwaukee.The plan for Cameron was a one year rental, with Tony Gwynn Jr taking over in 2009 and hitting leadoff. Of course, that was the Cubs plan for Felix Pie when they signed Juan Pierre a few years back.I don't think the Brewers even blink if offered Sabathia for Gamel and some other minor leaguers not named LaPorta.