Chad Henne...really looks the part (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

I have to say, Henne certainly looked like a budding star. In dynasty formats he's probably already rostered. I like his prospects for this season though too. He has excellent pocket presence, plays for a team that leaves teams scratching their head, and just had a 17 point fantasy week against the vaunted Jets D.

I would say he'll be a top 15 QB from here out, with potential to sneak into the top 10. That wildcat gives teams fits, but when they go standard, Henne is going to get a lot of chances to deliver knockout blows.

 

[=Smackdown=]

After only his 2nd NFL start I'm being cautiously optimistic.

It was nice to see him not get rattled when the Jets blitzed everyone and their Mom. He threw some nice passes to Camarillo down the stretch. Amazing that they would bring him in on 3rd and 5 after 2 Wildcat plays and it was like he never missed a beat.

With that said . . . if he continues to develop I think it's safe to assume that the Dolphins have seen the last of Pennington. I hated when they signed him as a FA but he slowly earned my respect with his performance last year winning the AFC East.

I think the Wildcat is still evolving - fully expect to see more of Pat White & Thigpen thrown into the mix in the not too distant future.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I would say he'll be a top 15 QB from here out, with potential to sneak into the top 10. That wildcat gives teams fits, but when they go standard, Henne is going to get a lot of chances to deliver knockout blows.

I wouldn't go overboard. He made some nice passes. He looked as good or better than Sanchez. But he is still a game manager. And the team will still run first. He might have top 15 dynasty value going forward, but I think this week's results is his upside in redraft, not his average.

 

[FavreCo]

At least with Henne there is potential value at the WR spot in Miami. Had that Pat White clown siezed the QB spot, WR's would have been useless. Good coaching move by Miami, recognizing who can throw the ball and who can't. I'll add Miami WRs to my scouting list now.

 

[Trey]

The Ted Ginn play action touchdown was not even possible with Pennington under QB. Henne stretches the field which is going to help the run game tremendously.

 

[Chris Smith]

The Dolphins are one legitimate receiver away from being almost impossible to slow down on offense. You can see why the coaching staff has been so high on Henne since last preseason. He is confident, poised and has a rocket arm. The most-impressive throw was the nice touch pass out to the sideline just over the defenders reach. His arm is powerful and the Dolphins finally have their QB of the future. Pat White will be used more and more out of the WILDCAT throughout the 2nd half of the season as the Dolphins offense continues to evolve and improve.

Things are looking very encouraging for Dolphins' fans right now.

 

[NoFBinLA]

The Dolphins are one legitimate receiver away from being almost impossible to slow down on offense.

That's the biggest problem with the offense IMO and what I was thinking at the moment when Ginn caught his TD pass. I don't think Ginn is that guy - but I think the Phins aren't far. They have other issues but offensively this is a big one.I also think at some point they need to stop relying on the Wildcat but hell - it left the Jets gasping for air, so why fix it if it ain't broke?

 

[Sabertooth]

The Ted Ginn play action touchdown was not even possible with Pennington under QB. Henne stretches the field which is going to help the run game tremendously.

and that was a rocket pass. He's got a powerful arm. Gruden commented on it on a pass to Fasano as well.

 

[=Smackdown=]

The Dolphins are one legitimate receiver away from being almost impossible to slow down on offense.

That's the biggest problem with the offense IMO and what I was thinking at the moment when Ginn caught his TD pass. I don't think Ginn is that guy - but I think the Phins aren't far. They have other issues but offensively this is a big one.I also think at some point they need to stop relying on the Wildcat but hell - it left the Jets gasping for air, so why fix it if it ain't broke?

Agreed.They really need a true #1 WR. I've given Ginn the benefit of the doubt for the last 3 years but it's quite clear he ain't going to be that true #1.Both lines are good. The secondary needs help. Improve the secondary and get that WR and this team can compete for it all next year IMO.

 

[SSOG]

I would say he'll be a top 15 QB from here out, with potential to sneak into the top 10. That wildcat gives teams fits, but when they go standard, Henne is going to get a lot of chances to deliver knockout blows.

I wouldn't go overboard. He made some nice passes. He looked as good or better than Sanchez. But he is still a game manager. And the team will still run first. He might have top 15 dynasty value going forward, but I think this week's results is his upside in redraft, not his average.

Just because I like playing devil's advocate: Chad Pennington was a "game manager", and the Dolphins were clearly a run-first team last year... and Pennington was still a top 10 QB. Same team, same offense, possibly better QB.Not saying I think Henne is a potential low-end #1 QB going forward, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was.

 

[Wu-banger]

Watching him excel for 4 years at Michigan this is no surprise.... If he had not been hurt his Senior year he could have challenged to be a top 10 draft pick.

He has great intangibles , and good feel for the game and can make every NFL throw.

Nice to see Henne and Manningham start to produce in the NFL ... now where is Mike Hart..???

 

[FantasyTrader]

I would say he'll be a top 15 QB from here out, with potential to sneak into the top 10. That wildcat gives teams fits, but when they go standard, Henne is going to get a lot of chances to deliver knockout blows.

I wouldn't go overboard. He made some nice passes. He looked as good or better than Sanchez. But he is still a game manager. And the team will still run first. He might have top 15 dynasty value going forward, but I think this week's results is his upside in redraft, not his average.

Just because I like playing devil's advocate: Chad Pennington was a "game manager", and the Dolphins were clearly a run-first team last year... and Pennington was still a top 10 QB. Same team, same offense, possibly better QB.Not saying I think Henne is a potential low-end #1 QB going forward, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was.

Cautiously optimistic.

 

[Todem]

Best QB I have seen in a Dolphins uniform bar none since Marino. What a relief he is finally getting his shot. Unfortunate it had to come at the cost of losing Pennington who is a a total class act and has been great mentor for Henne.

Expect to see Ginn getting loose for many more long TD's. I watch every Dolphins game and I am telling you last year I cannot tell you how many times I watched Ginn get behind the secondary only to watch a dump off to Brown or Fasano...or David Martin or Bess....you get the point. We now have an arm that can get him the ball deep. This will open up the running game even more.

You are seeing what DWill and Stewart did last year with Brown and Ricky this year. We may have two 1000 yard rushers this season and the Dolphins may...just may get back into this thing with that brutal...I mean brutal schedule.

Phins fans...unite and get behind our boys.

Now about that crappy ### pass rush we have....man we need to get that going....paging Joey Porter...paging Jason Taylor....get yer asses in the game!!!

 

[2ksports]

Reminds me of Tom Brady (rookie year)

both Mich 2nd year QBs on high-expectation teams filling in for injured guys.

I think he can be top 15, as in 10-15 range.

 

[Todem]

Reminds me of Tom Brady (rookie year)both Mich 2nd year QBs on high-expectation teams filling in for injured guys.I think he can be top 15, as in 10-15 range.

This year....going forward...he has stud written all over him. All depends on how the offense evolves...if we keep Ronnie Brown. It will be interesting.

 

[Thanatos]

Just like the other Phinfans in here have said, I'm cautiously optimistic at this point.

As long as the O-line can continue to give Henne the time he needs to make a solid read he should do very well as a 2nd year starter. I just kinda cringe to think back to the Chargers game when Henne was getting pressured and making mistakes and off target throws.

I've been down this road in the past before with other guys and felt optimistic as well and then had my hopes dashed. One thing is for certain, Henne has some large shoes to fill. It doesn't matter who you are, you're always going to be compared with Marino if you are the QB in South Beach.

 

[Ladsud]

now where is Mike Hart..???

Still running his 40.....

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

I missed the game, for those that saw it: Did Henne do the small things? Did he look off safeties, did he stare down his rec b4 delivering the ball, when he was pressured did he step up and throw off a stable base, any audibles, did he hit the hot route on blitzes?

 

[Jambi]

Reminds me of Tom Brady (rookie year)both Mich 2nd year QBs on high-expectation teams filling in for injured guys.I think he can be top 15, as in 10-15 range.

Are you saying Brady took over for a high expectation team? NE was terrible when he took over. I think they had just come off a 5-11 season. As far as Henne goes. I think he'll be successful. He won't put up huge number but he looks like he'll be serviceable in a pinch. My blog will have an official statement by Friday.

 

[SSOG]

now where is Mike Hart..???

Still running his 40.....

 

[KSU_Shrink]

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[werdnoynek]

big ups to bill "big tuna" parcells for what hes doing down there in miami. this team is going to be great in years to come, if not this year.

 

[joffer]

thoughts after week 11?

Comp - 127

Attempts - 218

Yards - 1337

TD/INT - 6/4

58% completion rate, 6.1 YPA

not bad numbers for only 7 starts.

 

[SuperJohn96]

thoughts after week 11?Comp - 127Attempts - 218Yards - 1337 TD/INT - 6/4 58% completion rate, 6.1 YPAnot bad numbers for only 7 starts.

Can't complain about a 5-2 record either.His remaining schedule is hit or miss right now...real up and down teams from Weeks 14-17W12 @ BUFW13 vs NWEW14 @ JACW15 @ TENW16 vs HOUW17 vs PIT

 

[BigJim®]

The impressive thing for me is his ability to adapt to an offense that has him constatntly shuffling on and off the field. I'd think it would be far easier for a guy to get into a groove playing all 3 downs and having some control over what situation he's placed at when 3rd down arrives. I think it will be really tough to guage his staying power until we see him play a typical QB role in an offense.

 

[faux_bear]

The impressive thing for me is his ability to adapt to an offense that has him constatntly shuffling on and off the field. I'd think it would be far easier for a guy to get into a groove playing all 3 downs and having some control over what situation he's placed at when 3rd down arrives. I think it will be really tough to guage his staying power until we see him play a typical QB role in an offense.

yeah, and you have to keep in mind the lack of talent at receiver and TE that he has to work with. So far Henne has done what has been asked of him. He has played tough, smart football. He led a couple of game winning drives, has kept the mistakes to a minimum (except for the late interception against Tampa Bay that nearly cost them the game), and has managed the offense well. Dan Marino he is not, but even Dan Marino would have had difficulties working with the receivers that the Dolphins have now.I don't see him being a big fantasy commodity because of those receivers, but I would be excited to see what he can do in a year or two if the Dolphins can bring in some quality players to throw the ball to.

 

[SuperJohn96]

The impressive thing for me is his ability to adapt to an offense that has him constatntly shuffling on and off the field. I'd think it would be far easier for a guy to get into a groove playing all 3 downs and having some control over what situation he's placed at when 3rd down arrives. I think it will be really tough to guage his staying power until we see him play a typical QB role in an offense.

yeah, and you have to keep in mind the lack of talent at receiver and TE that he has to work with. So far Henne has done what has been asked of him. He has played tough, smart football. He led a couple of game winning drives, has kept the mistakes to a minimum (except for the late interception against Tampa Bay that nearly cost them the game), and has managed the offense well. Dan Marino he is not, but even Dan Marino would have had difficulties working with the receivers that the Dolphins have now.I don't see him being a big fantasy commodity because of those receivers, but I would be excited to see what he can do in a year or two if the Dolphins can bring in some quality players to throw the ball to.

If he continues with his progress, I think he'll be a much better NFL QB than a FF QB.

 

[Todem]

Need to get either Boldin or Bowe in here next off season. No question that is going to happen in my mind.

I think Ronnie's days are over here. I may be in the minotrity on that...but the money will be allocated to a big WR next season instead of a oft injured RB.

Meanwhile Henne is going to evlove into a vey solid NFL QB.

 

[switz]

He looks a lot better than I expected. I don't put a ton of time into evaluating QBs when they enter the league in the first place, as most of what makes a QB good is in the head, hard to measure. But Henne's play this year has been pretty impressive.

 

[Raider Nation]

Nice game against the Pats on Sunday! 29-52 for 335 and 2 TDs.

But the most encouraging part is that Miami did not run a single play from the wildcat. Not even once. I hated to see Brown get injured again, but his absence combined with Henne's growth makes the wildcat less necessary. I've had Chad stashed on my bench all year. We can start 2 QBs... with the playoffs coming, he will almost certainly crack my lineup.

Anyone else thinking of using him?

 

[elmanx]

But the most encouraging part is that Miami did not run a single play from the wildcat. Not even once. \

That's not true. I wateched the whole game. They're running the wildcat now mostly with Pat White (since R. Brown is out). It was used a couple of times vs the Pats. Unless you're not counting the plays with White taking the snaps as "Wildcat".On the larger of issue of Henne, I'm not sure about his immediate fantasy viability, but, as a Dolphins fan, I'm ecstatic that we've finally found a QB we can build around. He's still going to make some mistakes, but he's going to be good eventually. Obviously not Marino level, but I think that I'm reasonably expecting someone at about the Matt Schaub level (of talent, not necessarily FF production -- Schaub's situation is a large part of what makes him a very good FF QB), which given our problems at QB for years, is good enough for me.

 

[big0mar]

But the most encouraging part is that Miami did not run a single play from the wildcat. Not even once. \

That's not true. I wateched the whole game. They're running the wildcat now mostly with Pat White (since R. Brown is out). It was used a couple of times vs the Pats. Unless you're not counting the plays with White taking the snaps as "Wildcat".On the larger of issue of Henne, I'm not sure about his immediate fantasy viability, but, as a Dolphins fan, I'm ecstatic that we've finally found a QB we can build around. He's still going to make some mistakes, but he's going to be good eventually. Obviously not Marino level, but I think that I'm reasonably expecting someone at about the Matt Schaub level (of talent, not necessarily FF production -- Schaub's situation is a large part of what makes him a very good FF QB), which given our problems at QB for years, is good enough for me.

It was a wishbone formation when White was in.

 

[Sabertooth]

Nice to see some of the old Michigan guys making a splash, you've got Henne, Avant, Manningham, Breaston, I even think Mike Hart got a play in this week.

I think Henne just looks strong. He's light years ahead of Brady Quinn in pocket presence and just guns the ball. Give him a guy like Boldin and he's low end QB1 material next season.

 

[MarshallRob]

But the most encouraging part is that Miami did not run a single play from the wildcat. Not even once. \

That's not true. I wateched the whole game. They're running the wildcat now mostly with Pat White (since R. Brown is out). It was used a couple of times vs the Pats. Unless you're not counting the plays with White taking the snaps as "Wildcat".On the larger of issue of Henne, I'm not sure about his immediate fantasy viability, but, as a Dolphins fan, I'm ecstatic that we've finally found a QB we can build around. He's still going to make some mistakes, but he's going to be good eventually. Obviously not Marino level, but I think that I'm reasonably expecting someone at about the Matt Schaub level (of talent, not necessarily FF production -- Schaub's situation is a large part of what makes him a very good FF QB), which given our problems at QB for years, is good enough for me.

White ran a few plays out of the option but the team never called a true Wildcat play.I think Henne has three 4th-quarter comebacks already this year, all in the last two minutes of play. Seems like a good showing for a first-year QB.

 

[ratbast]

I debated picking him up but opted for Gerrard as a 3rd QB for the playoffs. The Wildcat influenced my decision. FWIW

 

[Raider Nation]

Nothing intimidating about his schedule for the next few weeks, either. @ JAX, @ Tenn, vs. Houston.

 

[bweiser]

they're still a run-first team. they're not going to make a wholesale change like the 9ers did with alex smith.

i'm in an 11-team start 2 QB league and HE'S NOT EVEN ROSTERED.

and, fwiw, he's no. 28 in my league in QB scoring, behind Brady Quinn, Jake Delhomme and even Kevin Kolb who has made 2 starts.