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Chad Jackson back in the mix in NE (1 Viewer)

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Just heard on NFL Total Access from Adam Schefter. Chad Jackson has been removed from the 6 week PUP (ACL surgery), one of 6 NE players on the list, and was the first of those players to return to practice. I dont know how much of a factor he may be, but I cant help but think its a good sign for NE right now with RBs dropping like flies. Theyll need all the bodies they can get for the Air Brady Show. I certainly wouldnt have expected him back so soon, nor to make the active roster or see any time, but the kid has speed and skills, and I know he wants in on the action. Its worth mentioning that his ACL injury was not considered a major injury/surgery at the time. Nevertheless, its a knee situation, so I wont jump all over his bandwagon just yet. But I cant help but think its obviously great for Jackson, but potentially even greater for Brady owners.

 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

A non-event in my mind. People keep holding out hope for him. I dropped him in my main dynasty last year before he was injured....

 
Jackson has sick hands and sick speed. With the New England coaching, I have no doubt that he could be a star. He's going to be hard pressed for playing time with all that talent though.

I suppose we can expect some 4-receiver sets with Maroney gimpy and Morris out for the next month. Brady is obviously a must start, but he may be putting up even more absurd numbers over the next couple of weeks.

 
man, Im just glad to hear the guy's close to making it back. its just telling me he's further along then what Id expected. Stallworth is only in NE on a one year deal, and its a tough call whether or not he'll even be back next year. he may stay for the right money. but he may want to get paid some big coin. I can see Jackson on the other side of Moss if in a worst case scenario Stallworth ends up leaving. But there's alot to like about Jackson. He's big with hands and speed. And he's versatile. he's had tough luck with injuries so far, but I wont hate him for that. I didnt post this to announce he'd be taking over or stealing anyone's job, but just to give a head's up to dynasty guys to consider as a 20th man. and possibly a late season pickup for spot duty if he makes the cut.

 
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.

As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).

 
Boston said:
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).
Who gets cut to make room for Jackson? Is Gaffney history? Or do they carry 6 receivers with their shortage of RB's? As it is, Kelly Washington is already on the 53 man roster but doesnt make the 45 every week.
 
Boston said:
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).
Who gets cut to make room for Jackson? Is Gaffney history? Or do they carry 6 receivers with their shortage of RB's? As it is, Kelly Washington is already on the 53 man roster but doesnt make the 45 every week.
Gaffney has more experience in the system than Washington, he's been playing, and he's not hurt. Washington's been dealing with hamstring issues the entire season. I think if one of those 2 were cut, it would be KW.
 
Boston said:
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).
Who gets cut to make room for Jackson? Is Gaffney history? Or do they carry 6 receivers with their shortage of RB's? As it is, Kelly Washington is already on the 53 man roster but doesnt make the 45 every week.
Gaffney has more experience in the system than Washington, he's been playing, and he's not hurt. Washington's been dealing with hamstring issues the entire season. I think if one of those 2 were cut, it would be KW.
I guess the only case I could make for Washington is that he plays special teams. He is a gunner on the punt teams. Adds a little versatility.
 
Boston said:
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).
Who gets cut to make room for Jackson? Is Gaffney history? Or do they carry 6 receivers with their shortage of RB's? As it is, Kelly Washington is already on the 53 man roster but doesnt make the 45 every week.
Gaffney has more experience in the system than Washington, he's been playing, and he's not hurt. Washington's been dealing with hamstring issues the entire season. I think if one of those 2 were cut, it would be KW.
I guess the only case I could make for Washington is that he plays special teams. He is a gunner on the punt teams. Adds a little versatility.
true. but you know I couldnt help but notice on a long return Dallas had how slow Washington looked. he let the ball carrier get away from him, but trailing he was really never even in the play. Harrison ended up making the tackle. if thats an important reason for NE rostering him, Im not sure he"ll last very long with plays like that.
 
Redraft owners have no reason to be interested here. But dynasty owners...don't forget about him completely in spite of his lack of accomplishment to date.

Remember, the Pats invested a high 2nd round pick (traded up to get him). More importantly, there could be as much turn over at the WR position next year as there was this year for the Patriots. Moss is on a one year deal. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, does he move on to "greener" (= money) pastures having restored his name and legacy? Especially if (when?) the Pats won't even meet him half way (WR just isn't a position they will pay top dollar for)? And Donte Stallworth is effectively on a 1 year deal. He's due something like an $11 million roster bonus next spring. No way do the Patriots pay that. If he won't renegotiate, they'll have to cut him. Gaffney and Brown are also FAs.

Don't get me wrong, if Moss and Stallworth want to stay, they will be welcomed back...at the Patriots' price. But it's possible that Welker and Jackson are the starting WRs on Opening Day 2008.

 
Boston said:
Jackson was a complete enigma last year. The Pats traded up to get him in the second round and he blew people away in mini-camp (i.e. in shorts). Going into 2006 there were high expectations about him being a solid contributor to a subpar WR unit. Unfortunately those expectations were flushed down the toilet as he had a very unproductive year and looked totally lost. There have been various reports/rumors that his bad rookie year was due to injuries, maturity and an inability to pick up the playbook although nothing has been publicly confirmed. My guess is it was a combo of all three. When you see him on the field you can tell pretty quickly that there are some very nice physical tools but last year it just didn't click.As far as 2007 goes if he can remain healthy and get activated he's stepping into a good situation. There are zero expectations for him and anything he gives the Patriots will be a bonus. His size and speed would be another weapon for a team already loaded. Also, it would be nice to get a handle on whether he can contribute in future years as right now Welker is the only WR the Pats are committed to for the long term (although I'm very comfortable saying they will get a deal done with Moss to stay beyond this year).
Who gets cut to make room for Jackson? Is Gaffney history? Or do they carry 6 receivers with their shortage of RB's? As it is, Kelly Washington is already on the 53 man roster but doesnt make the 45 every week.
I don't see Gaffney getting cut. He's a nice role player for this offense who makes little money.Jackson has 21 days to prove he can contribute and be worthy of a roster spot. So, there is a chance we may not even see him this year. If he does earn a spot the easiset way to get him on the field is if there's an injury within the next three weeks. Obviously we don't know if that will happen right now. If not than I would think that they either carry 6 WRs (seems like a stretch but with how they run their offense it could be viable this year) or he goes head to head with Washington. To make matters even murkier Troy Brown is still looming although I have no idea if and when he'll be ready to play in 2007. It will be interesting to see how this works out but I'd much rather they have too much talent than rolling out the WR unit they did last year.
 
NE has the roster exemption for 21 days to decide what to do with Eddie Jackson, Chad Jackson, Richard Seymour, and Troy Brown.

I think they will wait and determine what happens over the next couple of weeks. If Watson's injury is nothing, then they will cut Marcellus Rivers....agan.

I would expect them to cut Kelly Washington as well. That leaves two more roster spots.

Assuming no one else gets hurt and that Sammy Morris doesn't need to be IR'd, they'd probably cut Tim Mixon and Dan Connolly from the practice squad and then try and slide CB Rashad Baker and and OL Wesley Britt and sign them to the practice squad.

I think Chad Jackson will eventually make a contribution and from what I saw, mentally he's smart but immature. He has all the skills. But so did Bethel Johnson.

 
He may be worth stashing away as insurance for Stallworth's inevitable hamstring injury.

But I agree with the sentiment that if all three of those receivers are healthy, he has no value. There's just not enough balls to go around four 4 WRs, a RB, and a TE, even if it's Brady on a all-time great year.

Bottom line is you probably keep the name in the back of your mind as a future waiver pickup if an injury news breaks on Moss, Welker, or Stallworth.

 
I don't see Jackson having any value this year. The fact he has shown very little as an NFL WR combined with the logjam of Patriot recieving threats makes it a big longshot that he would do anything on a weekly basis. If he plays I could see him getting the occasional long bomb but I just don't see a scenario (other than about two or three major injuries) where he would have any fantasy value in 2007. The best case situation for his fantasy value is in a Dynasty format where you can stash him away and hope the lightbulb goes on this year and it opens the door for a productive 2008.

 
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Redraft owners have no reason to be interested here. But dynasty owners...don't forget about him completely in spite of his lack of accomplishment to date.

Remember, the Pats invested a high 2nd round pick (traded up to get him). More importantly, there could be as much turn over at the WR position next year as there was this year for the Patriots. Moss is on a one year deal. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, does he move on to "greener" (= money) pastures having restored his name and legacy? Especially if (when?) the Pats won't even meet him half way (WR just isn't a position they will pay top dollar for)? And Donte Stallworth is effectively on a 1 year deal. He's due something like an $11 million roster bonus next spring. No way do the Patriots pay that. If he won't renegotiate, they'll have to cut him. Gaffney and Brown are also FAs.

Don't get me wrong, if Moss and Stallworth want to stay, they will be welcomed back...at the Patriots' price. But it's possible that Welker and Jackson are the starting WRs on Opening Day 2008.
:banned: A lot of rookie WRs who struggle as rookies are some of the best value you can find in dynasty leagues.

 

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