Chad Johnson --- Downgrade (1 Viewer)

[boots11234]

6 for 73???? He will not be a top 10 WR. Book it!! Maybe that hit a few weeks ago was too much for him?!?!?!

 

[Da Guru]

Chad is having a down year..no doubt! TJ seems to be the go to guy now in Cinci.

 

[Courtjester]

And the blame rests solely on their o-line.

Palmer simply doesn't have the time to get the ball deep.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

And the blame rests solely on their o-line. Palmer simply doesn't have the time to get the ball deep.

There are several O-line injuries, right? Are those guys going to be healthy soon or were they long term injuries? i.e., can we expect improvement from the O-line?

 

[Reagan]

6 for 73???? He will not be a top 10 WR. Book it!! Maybe that hit a few weeks ago was too much for him?!?!?!

My 2nd round pick (#18 in 10-teamer). I picked him as the 1st WR off the board in our league. Definitely not good value thus far.Houshmanzadeh went in late 4th round.

 

[Disclaimer]

it's not even a big prediction anymore.

 

[shakeybarn]

I avoided him this year..., figured he had some value... but given that he wasn't dropping to me in the 3rd round.

Half of it , is his boasting. I figured opposing CBs would game up for 85. And shut him and shut his mouth. Yeah, we all love the Chad... but DBs game up for him.

The o-line..... and the other WRs (to be honest didn't expect this much out of TJ... but TJ, Kelley, Kelly, et all... ) didn't figure on a 1,350/11 year ... more like a 1,050/9 but with a few games of multiple TDs.

I expect some small games for 85 as well.

 

[toxicbees]

He's a great buy low candidate. Just like Hines Ward was until this week.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

TJ is getting open and finding seams

more regularly. TJH has turned into

the go to guy in Cincinnati.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

He's a great buy low candidate. Just like Hines Ward was until this week.

I agree. CJ has been the model of consistency over the last few years - he'll get his. His receptions and yardage are actually not that bad, and TDs are the most random stat anyways. They'll come.

 

[Tat]

Who did Palmer turn to on the 4th down play for a gain of 32?

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Who did Palmer turn to on the 4th down play for a gain of 32?

Please tell me that this is not your evidence that CJ is not his go to guy anymore. (I can only assume that the answer to your question is Housh.) While I would listen to arguments that this is the case, they would certainly have to be better than this one. A few years back on 4th and forever in the playoffs, who did McNabb go to? (Freddie Mitchell). Does that make him the goto guy?Throw out the Pittsburg game for CJ, because he was still hurt from the shot the week before, and throw out the first 2 weeks for TJ because he didn't play, and their targets look almost identical. I see it just like a Harrison/Wayne situation. CJ/Harrison are better and draw the double teams, while TJ/Wayne really benefit - thus resulting in similar production. Again, over the last 3 years, CJ is as steady as they come:'03: 90-1355-10'04: 95-1274-9'05: 97-1432-9I fully expect him to AT LEAST get back to his normal production (about 46-600-5 over a half of a season). There are no reasons that I can see that would lead me to believe this year's start is anything but an aberration. The targets are there, he is healthy, the system hasn't changed. Yes, the O-line is struggling, but it wasn't exactly the best in the league in his first few years and he still produced. The numbers and TDs will come, be patient. There is certainly nothing to be gained by trading him now, since you won't get what he is worth. Also, recall 2004 when his first 5 games looked like this:week 1: 5-99-1week 2: 3-45-0week 3: 8-99-0week 4: 4-54-0week 5: byeweek 6: 3-37-0All he did from that point on was catch 72 passes for 940 yards and 8 TDs in his next 11 games (an average of 6.5-85-.72TD per game, or appx. 20pts/game in a ppr league).

 

[Tat]

Who did Palmer turn to on the 4th down play for a gain of 32?

Please tell me that this is not your evidence that CJ is not his go to guy anymore. (I can only assume that the answer to your question is Housh.) While I would listen to arguments that this is the case, they would certainly have to be better than this one. A few years back on 4th and forever in the playoffs, who did McNabb go to? (Freddie Mitchell). Does that make him the goto guy?

Throw out the Pittsburg game for CJ, because he was still hurt from the shot the week before, and throw out the first 2 weeks for TJ because he didn't play, and their targets look almost identical. I see it just like a Harrison/Wayne situation. CJ/Harrison are better and draw the double teams, while TJ/Wayne really benefit - thus resulting in similar production.

Again, over the last 3 years, CJ is as steady as they come:

'03: 90-1355-10

'04: 95-1274-9

'05: 97-1432-9

'06: 36-450-1 (7 games)

I fully expect him to AT LEAST get back to his normal production (about 46-600-5 over a half of a season). There are no reasons that I can see that would lead me to believe this is anything but an aberration. The targets are there, he is healthy, the system hasn't changed. Yes, the O-line is struggling, but it wasn't exactly the best in the league in his first few years. The production will come, be patient. There is certainly nothing to be gained by trading him now, since you won't get what he is worth.

Also, recall 2004 when his first 5 games looked like this:

week 1: 5-99-1

week 2: 3-45-0

week 3: 8-99-0

week 4: 4-54-0

week 5: bye

week 6: 3-37-0

All he did from that point on was catch 72 passes for 940 yards and 8 TDs in his next 11 games. (an average of 6.5-85-.72TD per game, or appx. 20pts/game in a ppr league)

Did yo uwatch the game at all?I was referring to CJ #######.

For the CJ owners who still believe!

 

[Love to Bet football]

If Chris Henry is able to play starting in week 8 things WILL open up again for CJ .....Henry is a big time reciever and they'll have to take some of that attention off CJ to cover him

 

[One]

I'm trying to aquire him in a few different leagues since I think he's bound to blow up. Opponents aren't just going to keep overlooking Housh near the endzone and in coverage.

I think Housh is SUCH an underrated reciever, but Johnson is about as good as they come in the NFL.

Look for him to blow up soon... buy low.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Who did Palmer turn to on the 4th down play for a gain of 32?

Please tell me that this is not your evidence that CJ is not his go to guy anymore. (I can only assume that the answer to your question is Housh.) While I would listen to arguments that this is the case, they would certainly have to be better than this one. A few years back on 4th and forever in the playoffs, who did McNabb go to? (Freddie Mitchell). Does that make him the goto guy?

Throw out the Pittsburg game for CJ, because he was still hurt from the shot the week before, and throw out the first 2 weeks for TJ because he didn't play, and their targets look almost identical. I see it just like a Harrison/Wayne situation. CJ/Harrison are better and draw the double teams, while TJ/Wayne really benefit - thus resulting in similar production.

Again, over the last 3 years, CJ is as steady as they come:

'03: 90-1355-10

'04: 95-1274-9

'05: 97-1432-9

'06: 36-450-1 (7 games)

I fully expect him to AT LEAST get back to his normal production (about 46-600-5 over a half of a season). There are no reasons that I can see that would lead me to believe this is anything but an aberration. The targets are there, he is healthy, the system hasn't changed. Yes, the O-line is struggling, but it wasn't exactly the best in the league in his first few years. The production will come, be patient. There is certainly nothing to be gained by trading him now, since you won't get what he is worth.

Also, recall 2004 when his first 5 games looked like this:

week 1: 5-99-1

week 2: 3-45-0

week 3: 8-99-0

week 4: 4-54-0

week 5: bye

week 6: 3-37-0

All he did from that point on was catch 72 passes for 940 yards and 8 TDs in his next 11 games. (an average of 6.5-85-.72TD per game, or appx. 20pts/game in a ppr league)

Did yo uwatch the game at all?I was referring to CJ #######.

For the CJ owners who still believe!

No, I didn't see the game. I'm sorry that I assumed incorrectly. My analysis does not change one iota based on that fact. I see no reason to cuss at me. Good day, sir.

 

[Tat]

Who did Palmer turn to on the 4th down play for a gain of 32?

Please tell me that this is not your evidence that CJ is not his go to guy anymore. (I can only assume that the answer to your question is Housh.) While I would listen to arguments that this is the case, they would certainly have to be better than this one. A few years back on 4th and forever in the playoffs, who did McNabb go to? (Freddie Mitchell). Does that make him the goto guy?

Throw out the Pittsburg game for CJ, because he was still hurt from the shot the week before, and throw out the first 2 weeks for TJ because he didn't play, and their targets look almost identical. I see it just like a Harrison/Wayne situation. CJ/Harrison are better and draw the double teams, while TJ/Wayne really benefit - thus resulting in similar production.

Again, over the last 3 years, CJ is as steady as they come:

'03: 90-1355-10

'04: 95-1274-9

'05: 97-1432-9

'06: 36-450-1 (7 games)

I fully expect him to AT LEAST get back to his normal production (about 46-600-5 over a half of a season). There are no reasons that I can see that would lead me to believe this is anything but an aberration. The targets are there, he is healthy, the system hasn't changed. Yes, the O-line is struggling, but it wasn't exactly the best in the league in his first few years. The production will come, be patient. There is certainly nothing to be gained by trading him now, since you won't get what he is worth.

Also, recall 2004 when his first 5 games looked like this:

week 1: 5-99-1

week 2: 3-45-0

week 3: 8-99-0

week 4: 4-54-0

week 5: bye

week 6: 3-37-0

All he did from that point on was catch 72 passes for 940 yards and 8 TDs in his next 11 games. (an average of 6.5-85-.72TD per game, or appx. 20pts/game in a ppr league)

Did yo uwatch the game at all?I was referring to CJ #######.

For the CJ owners who still believe!

No, I didn't see the game. I'm sorry that I assumed incorrectly. My analysis does not change one iota based on that fact. I see no reason to cuss at me. Good day, sir.

 

[EBF]

6 for 73???? He will not be a top 10 WR. Book it!! Maybe that hit a few weeks ago was too much for him?!?!?!

Over the course of a full season, a per-game average of 6 receptions for 73 yards equates to season totals of 96 receptions for 1,168. A down year perhaps, but hardly horrible. People always overreact when top players are not delivering the big games. Remember two weeks ago when Hines Ward was having a bad season? Look at him now. Chad has been too productive for too long to be written off. The emergence of Henry and Housh will hurt his numbers, but he's still one of the best WRs to have on your squad.

 

[replacements]

Is it just me or did johnson seem to be favoring his shoulder after that big catch. He also caught a shorter pass later in the game, I believe it was late in the 4th quarter.He looked like he was favoring his right arm.

The commentators didn't say a thing and I have not heard any reports on this. I just thought I saw Cj favoring his arm.

 

[Tat]

Is it just me or did johnson seem to be favoring his shoulder after that big catch. He also caught a shorter pass later in the game, I believe it was late in the 4th quarter.He looked like he was favoring his right arm.The commentators didn't say a thing and I have not heard any reports on this. I just thought I saw Cj favoring his arm.

He landed on it after the big catch.Wasn't it the same shoulder that landed him as probable this week?

 

[shuke]

And the blame rests solely on their o-line. Palmer simply doesn't have the time to get the ball deep.

There are several O-line injuries, right? Are those guys going to be healthy soon or were they long term injuries? i.e., can we expect improvement from the O-line?

Braham and Jones are both out, but most of the protections problems arose with Braham's injury. I'm trying to find a time table for his return, because I'm thinking he should be back any week now.

 

[losgalacticos]

And the blame rests solely on their o-line. Palmer simply doesn't have the time to get the ball deep.

Exactly- My opponent had Palmer, Rudi, and TJ against me this week, and I figured there was a ceiling on their numbers with Braham and Levi Jones out. I didn't fear one of those huge weeks they are capable of.But Chad is the most affected because of the time needed to go deep.