Chad vs. TJ as #1's this year (1 Viewer)

[Chachi]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:

TJ 90/870/6

Chad 90/1350/9

I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

Edited to change TJs TDs from 2 to 6.

 

[DenverBroncos]

My guess is Chad finishes as WR7-9 and Housh is WR14-17.

 

[gonzobill5]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

Might want to keep in mind that TJ is playing the NFC West while CJ is still stuck in the AFC North. I'd take Housh over Chad unless I was convinced Carson was completely healthy.

 

[RockHard]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

TJ is going to get exposed this year.

 

[DenverBroncos]

I agree that Chad has a much higher ceiling, but TJ will be fine. If Bobby Engram can get 90+ receptions, 1100+ yards and 6 TD's, then Housh could do that as well.

 

[Enforcer]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?

My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

 

[puckalicious]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

Wow I agree with Chachi on something!

 

[Enforcer]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

TJ is going to get exposed this year.

Exposed? Exposed as what? A good NFL receiver? He's not going to be expected to lead the NFL in receptions. He's not going to be asked to necessarily lead Seattle in receptions and/or touchdowns. He's going to be asked to contribute to a productive NFL offense. Nothing more. He'll get open, catch the ball, and be a good teammate. Hopefully his teammates will stay healthy this year and the Seahawks will see some success.

 

[lyon812]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

I suspect Housh will be at flanker and Branch moved.

 

[Couch Potato]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

I suspect Housh will be at flanker and Branch moved.

That's what I'm hearing too. Moved to the slot, or possibly even off to another team.

 

[Enforcer]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

I suspect Housh will be at flanker and Branch moved.

Time will tell, but do you mind if I ask what you base this on? I see Branch as the much quicker and smaller player that benefits most from being able to play off the line of scrimmage.

 

[Enforcer]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?

My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

I suspect Housh will be at flanker and Branch moved.

That's what I'm hearing too. Moved to the slot, or possibly even off to another team.

That's an option too, but I think I would rather see them keep Branch.

 

[FUBAR]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

I'm looking forward to Caldwell as the #2.

 

[weasel3515]

CJ doesn't have TJ to help take heat off him and CJ looks to have slowed a step. A porous O-line means Palmer will be on his back more than a $5 prostitute and won't have the time to find CJ as much. And since Benson (if he returns) showed he was capable of carrying the load (albeit against poor defenses) they might try to minimize the drop-backs by Palmer and hand it off more. None of this looks good for CJ.

 

[DropKick]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

I'll take Housh for more than 2 TDs if you want to wager.

 

[az_prof]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

If Palmer fully recovers then I agree; there are question marks for both guys and QBs play a big role in how WRs do.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Just to throw it out there:

Ocho : 80 - 1100 - 7

TJ : 87 - 1025 - 6

 

[KellysHeroes]

whats the update on Palmer? Is everyone sure that this throwing elbow is 100% and will be 100% all season long?

 

[Chachi]

CJ doesn't have TJ to help take heat off him and CJ looks to have slowed a step. A porous O-line means Palmer will be on his back more than a $5 prostitute and won't have the time to find CJ as much. And since Benson (if he returns) showed he was capable of carrying the load (albeit against poor defenses) they might try to minimize the drop-backs by Palmer and hand it off more. None of this looks good for CJ.

You just don't get it. Chad the oil that makes the TJ engine go. Without Chad, TJ is just another overpaid WR who can't get open. Chad was also productive before Carson. TJ was nothing until Carson emerged. Chad is at that elite level and was elite with Kitna, TJ isn't the same exact player that Alvin Harper was but it's going to be the same story when Harper left for money and didn't have Irvin around.

 

[doowain]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

I'm looking forward to Caldwell as the #2.

Good luck with that. Barring him mirroring Brandon Marshall's antics this offseason, Chris Henry will be our #2.

 

[Heep]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

I'm looking forward to Caldwell as the #2.

I saw him where I work a week ago. Dude is ripped...

 

[doowain]

CJ doesn't have TJ to help take heat off him and CJ looks to have slowed a step. A porous O-line means Palmer will be on his back more than a $5 prostitute and won't have the time to find CJ as much. And since Benson (if he returns) showed he was capable of carrying the load (albeit against poor defenses) they might try to minimize the drop-backs by Palmer and hand it off more. None of this looks good for CJ.

You just don't get it. Chad the oil that makes the TJ engine go. Without Chad, TJ is just another overpaid WR who can't get open. Chad was also productive before Carson. TJ was nothing until Carson emerged. Chad is at that elite level and was elite with Kitna, TJ isn't the same exact player that Alvin Harper was but it's going to be the same story when Harper left for money and didn't have Irvin around.

Cincy homer here....While I agree that Chad was a big reason for TJ's success, the bolded statements are just plain wrong.

TJ was drafted in 2001. Played very little in his rookie year. In 2002, he started 5 games and had 41/492/1, which, as progression goes, is pretty good for a 7th round draft pick. In 2003, he suffered a season ending injury in the 2nd game of the season. Then, in 2004, coming off that injury he became a starter and put up 73/978/4 which happened to be Palmer's first year as a starter. Palmer didn't exactly set the world on fire that year (2897 yards and 18TD/18INT), so I wouldn't call that Palmer "emerging".

The feelings here in Cincy were that even before TJ's breakout year, he was actually set to emerge in 2003....the year he was injured. We were very excited about him.

If you are going to bash on a player, at least know a little about him or maybe watch a game or two. From a 7th round pick to the league leader in receptions for the last 4 years....I'd say he knows how to get open.

 

[doowain]

I'll go on record saying if both play 16 game seasons healthy there numbers are:TJ 90/870/2Chad 90/1350/9I can't wait to see this unfold, I am of the mind that CJ made TJ and TJ is going to have weak numbers while Chads stay the same (Minus last years fluke season).

I'm looking forward to Caldwell as the #2.

I saw him where I work a week ago. Dude is ripped...

Call Canton.

 

[Enforcer]

Without Chad, TJ is just another overpaid WR who can't get open.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Without Chad, TJ is just another overpaid WR who can't get open.

:whoosh:

You may want to reverse that comment.

 

[Bob Magaw]

without throwing out specific numbers, i'm in the camp that thinks this will be pretty close, & i wouldn't be stunned if housh's numbers are superior (good point above that he is now in the NFC west)... of course if hasselbeck's back flares up, all bets are off...

housh is not the latest iteration of alvin harper/peerless price/javon walker/jerry porter, but is a legit talent... he has everything but blazing speed, is one of the smoothest, most polished & accomplished route runners in the game, has the veteran savvy & instincts to find the holes in coverage schemes & exploit them, has the size, toughness & physicality to run the intermediate routes over the middle, & has outstanding hands... whats not to like?

he has to start slowing down at some point, but again, his game isn't based on speed... he also went to college in the northwest, & might get a boost by somewhat returning to his old stomping grounds...

chad was a shell of himself for much of last season, & housh did OK, so the argument that he rode on ocho psycho's coat tails doesn't seem to carry a lot of weight... how do we know that CJ didn't benefit on some of his explosive plays to an extent from the threat of one of the best possession receivers in the NFL lining up opposite him over the years?

 

[thehornet]

I agree that Chad has a much higher ceiling, but TJ will be fine. If Bobby Engram can get 90+ receptions, 1100+ yards and 6 TD's, then Housh could do that as well.

He did that once in his career. This is not the norm.

 

[Chachi]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

 

[KellysHeroes]

so is everyone 100% sure that Carson is healthy?

The guy couldn't throw a Football all year long and he avoided surgery... as far as I'm consider hes the bigger ?? out of the 3.

 

[bcr8f]

without throwing out specific numbers, i'm in the camp that thinks this will be pretty close, & i wouldn't be stunned if housh's numbers are superior (good point above that he is now in the NFC west)... of course if hasselbeck's back flares up, all bets are off...

housh is not the latest iteration of alvin harper/peerless price/javon walker/jerry porter, but is a legit talent... he has everything but blazing speed, is one of the smoothest, most polished & accomplished route runners in the game, has the veteran savvy & instincts to find the holes in coverage schemes & exploit them, has the size, toughness & physicality to run the intermediate routes over the middle, & has outstanding hands... whats not to like?

he has to start slowing down at some point, but again, his game isn't based on speed... he also went to college in the northwest, & might get a boost by somewhat returning to his old stomping grounds...

chad was a shell of himself for much of last season, & housh did OK, so the argument that he rode on ocho psycho's coat tails doesn't seem to carry a lot of weight... how do we know that CJ didn't benefit on some of his explosive plays to an extent from the threat of one of the best possession receivers in the NFL lining up opposite him over the years?

I don't know. Seneca Wallace filled in pretty well last year.

 

[Kirby]

so is everyone 100% sure that Carson is healthy?The guy couldn't throw a Football all year long and he avoided surgery... as far as I'm consider hes the bigger ?? out of the 3.

I read that he's throwing to Henry and looking great.

 

[Kuz]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

 

[Chachi]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

 

[MAC_32]

Assuming Branch, Burleson, and Hass are all healthy and are on the Seahawks I think Housh will have a good but not great season. Those are also horrible assumptions to make.

Anyway, the question, if Housh and Chad cost the same draft day and nothing else changes in Seattle or Cincy (it probably will) I'll take Chad's upside.

 

[MAC_32]

TJ as a #1? According to whom?My guess is that TJ will play the split end spot in the Seattle offense. Branch will continue to be the flanker. If (and that's a big if) Branch can stay healthy I fully expect him to see more targets than TJ this coming season.

I suspect Housh will be at flanker and Branch moved.

That's what I'm hearing too. Moved to the slot, or possibly even off to another team.

I think the latter, if he is back with the team I'd think Housh lines up in the slot in 3 WR sets w/Branch at flanker and Housh lines up as flanker in 2 WR sets w/Burleson the full time SE regardless of set.

 

[Chachi]

(TheHuddle) Bengals.com reports free-agent WR Laveranues Coles is scheduled to visit the Cincinnati Bengals Tuesday, March 3.

Analysis: The Bengals are looking to replace T.J. Houshmandzadeh in their receiver rotation.

Just a note for those in love with Caldwell.

 

[Kuz]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

that seems like some fair stats.. It will be fun to see how he does without Chad but I'm in the camp that thinks he'll be fine.. time will tell though..

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

 

[MG345]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

Hedging his bets.

 

[gonzobill5]

without throwing out specific numbers, i'm in the camp that thinks this will be pretty close, & i wouldn't be stunned if housh's numbers are superior (good point above that he is now in the NFC west)... of course if hasselbeck's back flares up, all bets are off...

housh is not the latest iteration of alvin harper/peerless price/javon walker/jerry porter, but is a legit talent... he has everything but blazing speed, is one of the smoothest, most polished & accomplished route runners in the game, has the veteran savvy & instincts to find the holes in coverage schemes & exploit them, has the size, toughness & physicality to run the intermediate routes over the middle, & has outstanding hands... whats not to like?

he has to start slowing down at some point, but again, his game isn't based on speed... he also went to college in the northwest, & might get a boost by somewhat returning to his old stomping grounds...

chad was a shell of himself for much of last season, & housh did OK, so the argument that he rode on ocho psycho's coat tails doesn't seem to carry a lot of weight... how do we know that CJ didn't benefit on some of his explosive plays to an extent from the threat of one of the best possession receivers in the NFL lining up opposite him over the years?

I don't know. Seneca Wallace filled in pretty well last year.

Agreed. I'll add that clearly Chad is very reliant on Palmer - he needs a guy with the arm strength get him the ball deep. Also, he needs the Cincy O-line to remember how to pass protect. If all this comes together, he'll have a bounce back year (in his typical extremely inconsistent fashion). TJ meanwhile, if he stays healthy, strikes me as the type of receiver that can put up a respectable year no matter who throws him the ball. However, I think he'd excel with a very accurate QB, and I don't think Hass or Wallace fit this mold so I'm tempering my expectations. All that said, I expect both guys to cost more than I'm willing to pay come draft day.

 

[MG345]

without throwing out specific numbers, i'm in the camp that thinks this will be pretty close, & i wouldn't be stunned if housh's numbers are superior (good point above that he is now in the NFC west)... of course if hasselbeck's back flares up, all bets are off...

housh is not the latest iteration of alvin harper/peerless price/javon walker/jerry porter, but is a legit talent... he has everything but blazing speed, is one of the smoothest, most polished & accomplished route runners in the game, has the veteran savvy & instincts to find the holes in coverage schemes & exploit them, has the size, toughness & physicality to run the intermediate routes over the middle, & has outstanding hands... whats not to like?

he has to start slowing down at some point, but again, his game isn't based on speed... he also went to college in the northwest, & might get a boost by somewhat returning to his old stomping grounds...

chad was a shell of himself for much of last season, & housh did OK, so the argument that he rode on ocho psycho's coat tails doesn't seem to carry a lot of weight... how do we know that CJ didn't benefit on some of his explosive plays to an extent from the threat of one of the best possession receivers in the NFL lining up opposite him over the years?

Hass is a pretty accurate thrower, especially on the shorter routes. And Seneca showed some improvement last year in his starting stint, but it was hard to judge completely based on the fact the he was throwing to scrubs.I don't know. Seneca Wallace filled in pretty well last year.

Agreed. I'll add that clearly Chad is very reliant on Palmer - he needs a guy with the arm strength get him the ball deep. Also, he needs the Cincy O-line to remember how to pass protect. If all this comes together, he'll have a bounce back year (in his typical extremely inconsistent fashion). TJ meanwhile, if he stays healthy, strikes me as the type of receiver that can put up a respectable year no matter who throws him the ball. However, I think he'd excel with a very accurate QB, and I don't think Hass or Wallace fit this mold so I'm tempering my expectations. All that said, I expect both guys to cost more than I'm willing to pay come draft day.

 

[Chachi]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

I realized 2 TDs is awfully low. That's 1 TD every 8 games played. Hasselbeck averages about 25 TDS a year and 6 to his top WR doesn't seem unlikely. Why come in here and post just because you have a grudge against me, that's pretty lame and I'm sure you intend on turning this thread upside down, with the interest of not getting pulled into a childish spat with you welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Chachi]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

Hedging his bets.

I take it you give a to every staff member here who changes their rankings on any player at any time? I don't hate TJ nor do I think he is awful, I think he is overrated and that having Chad around inflated his numbers, I'm not sure why I have to stick to my guns.

 

[Patsfan39]

Coles is visiting cincy, rumors say he could sign today.

 

[MG345]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

Hedging his bets.

I take it you give a to every staff member here who changes their rankings on any player at any time? I don't hate TJ nor do I think he is awful, I think he is overrated and that having Chad around inflated his numbers, I'm not sure why I have to stick to my guns.

You obviously have some type of animosity towards the Hawks signing Houshmandzadeh, and were throwing out some pretty lowball numbers. When you realized it WOULD get bumped, and make you look foolish, you hedged your bets by bumping the TDs. It isn't like you put a whole lot of thought into this, you have been all over the place ragging on this signing since it happened. So yeah your posts get a big

 

[MG345]

Did you mean to quote me and not say anything?

 

[Chachi]

As far as people bumping this on seasons end, do not bump this and say Branch was injured as I fully expect Branch to be a non-factor. The only way I'd have an excuse about TJ doing well is if they draft Crabtree and he had a sensational rookie year. If Branch has a great season then I will credit TJ as making him better. Of course if Hasselbeck or Palmer miss significant time then all bets are off.

I think people will bump this when he way outperforms your 2 TD prediciton. I get it you don't like him but do you really believe he wil only catch 2 TD's if he doesn't get injured. that doesn't make much sense IMO..

You're right about that and I don't think I was fair to TJ with the TDS. I'm bumping his TDS considerably but keeping the yards the same. 90/870/6

Why not stick to your guns?? You let a few post change your mind..lol

Hedging his bets.

I take it you give a to every staff member here who changes their rankings on any player at any time? I don't hate TJ nor do I think he is awful, I think he is overrated and that having Chad around inflated his numbers, I'm not sure why I have to stick to my guns.

You obviously have some type of animosity towards the Hawks signing Houshmandzadeh, and were throwing out some pretty lowball numbers. When you realized it WOULD get bumped, and make you look foolish, you hedged your bets by bumping the TDs. It isn't like you put a whole lot of thought into this, you have been all over the place ragging on this signing since it happened. So yeah your posts get a big

Wow... Just... Wow...andFAIL

 

[MG345]

Wow... Just... Wow...andFAIL

I fail because you deleted your post? Ok, nice one, you got me. Seeing how you have no reply to what I posted, I am going to assume you realize what I said is true. You can hedge your bets all you want, but no one is listening anyway. Get ready for this thread to be bumped next year. Good day sir.

 

[heidbrink]

Hass has made a career of making average receivers look great. Wouldn’t you agree that Housh is at least above average. I'd venture to say he is in fact the best "old guy" they have given Matt to target thus far in his career. Matt will feed him early and often so I expect a ton of receptions from TJ and think his numbers will at least stay in the same neighborhood (top 10-ish in ppr).

As far as Ocho Cinco vs TJ, I think their general output styles will stay much the same as well. TJ will continue to provide more consistent production and Chad will have more ups and downs. Over the course of the season their total scoring numbers may bear out similarly but the kind of consistent scoring a guy like TJ provides is more to my ff style.

On draft day, if I am deciding between the two receivers, I’ll take Houshyermamma.

 

[Chachi]

Wow... Just... Wow...andFAIL

I fail because you deleted your post? Ok, nice one, you got me. Seeing how you have no reply to what I posted, I am going to assume you realize what I said is true. You can hedge your bets all you want, but no one is listening anyway. Get ready for this thread to be bumped next year. Good day sir.

Actually you fail because I don't have animosity towards the Hawks, I could give a rats rear end about them, love them? No. hate them? No. I have no feelings towards your beloved team either way. I haven't been all over the signing since it happened, you are making stuff up. I have more or less been saying that Chad made TJ and that's been my whole point since day one. If you can't handle someone saying something slightly critical about a Seahawk then I suggest you grow a pair. Feel free to point out anywhere I have ever said anything negative about the Seahawks, you'll be looking a long, long time because I'm not the "Seahawk Hater" you think I am, it's ridiculous you think such a weird thing. This was the post I was replying to:

You obviously have some type of animosity towards the Hawks signing Houshmandzadeh, and were throwing out some pretty lowball numbers. When you realized it WOULD get bumped, and make you look foolish, you hedged your bets by bumping the TDs. It isn't like you put a whole lot of thought into this, you have been all over the place ragging on this signing since it happened. So yeah your posts get a big