Chargers to Tag Sproles ? (1 Viewer)

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

YES!!!

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...spro/?uniontrib

renegotiated contract for LaDainian Tomlinson and possible franchise tag for Darren Sproles are among the topics the Chargers'decision-makers are mulling this week.

The team's brass has essentially just begun the process of deciding the parameters of a new deal for Tomlinson and how to proceed with Sproles.

Almost everything else of consequence that will take place this offseason piggybacks off the decisions regarding the two running backs.

Tomlinson is due to make $6.725 million in 2009 with a cap number of $8.8 million. With numerous other players to try to sign to long-term deals, the team cannot afford to keep Tomlinson at that price.

The Tomlinson situation likely will come to a resolution at the NFL Scouting Combine, which begins next week in Indianapolis. There, the team and Tomlinson's agent will be able to have face-to-face discussion on a restructured deal.

That is also likely the first time the team will have in-depth talks with Sproles' agent about a long-term contract. Sproles has said he would like to remain a Charger but will at least test the free-agent market.

The team also is considering putting the franchise tag on Sproles, which would guarantee him $6.62 million in 2009 and would, depending on whether the team places the exclusive or non-exclusive tag on him, prevent him from negotiating with other teams or give the Chargers two first-round draft picks if he signs with another team.

It is not believed a team would pony up two first-round picks to sign Sproles, so a franchise tag virtually assures Sproles will be a Charger in '09.

The decision on whether to apply the franchise tag must be made by Feb. 19.

Yesterday was the first day for NFL teams to release players, and no one got axed at Chargers Park.

Coaches, personnel and other members of the front office have submitted their evaluations

 

[Ray Finkle]

Finally some good news. Is Rivers expected to get his new deal after Eli's is finalized?

 

[Avery]

Finally some good news. Is Rivers expected to get his new deal after Eli's is finalized?

Eli's new deal was from very suspect sources.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Finally some good news. Is Rivers expected to get his new deal after Eli's is finalized?

rumor is that AJ wants to get Rivers done this off season as well.I hope for this:1 - LT renegotiates2 - franchise sproles 1 year deal only3 - re-sign Rivers 4 - draft Rey Malauga 5 - franchise Merriamn after the 2009 season6 - either a late round pick this year or a pick in the 2010 draft for a RB

 

[Godsbrother]

Is Sproles really worth $6.6 million/year? He's a nice return man and change of pace back but I'm not sure he is worth that slapping the franchise tag on.

 

[FUBAR]

I like Sproles as much as the next guy, but is he actually worth this much $?

Remind me, the franchise tag means the player will make avg top 5 at his position, right? Can the Chargers declare him a KR/PR instead of a RB? (or if not him because he played RB too much, could a team do that for a player with less carries?)

 

[Sweet Love]

Is Sproles really worth $6.6 million/year? He's a nice return man and change of pace back but I'm not sure he is worth that slapping the franchise tag on.

No, but they will find out the hard way...he is equal to Leon Washington and as a Jets fan, I would croak if they tagged him. The NFL entry draft is a great way to find someone for 1mm/year that can run for 900yards and 6 TDs over the course of a year (which is exactly what Sproles would give them in a lead role...poor spend of cap dollars in my opinion.

 

[PatsWillWin]

They can't afford to keep LT at his price but they can afford to Franchise his backup?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

They can't afford to keep LT at his price but they can afford to Franchise his backup?

yep

 

[Tackling Dummies]

...poor spend of cap dollars in my opinion.

Yep. The gas-on-a-fire is this part-->With numerous other players to try to sign to long-term deals, the team cannot afford to keep Tomlinson at that price. So, they need to work out cap issues and they throw several million out the window on a position that they're trying to save a dime on? Oooof.

 

[Adebisi]

Guess we'll find out just how badly Tomlinson wants to remain a Charger. My guess is they get him to renegotiate to a number that will make it even easier for them to cut him next year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

...poor spend of cap dollars in my opinion.

Yep. The gas-on-a-fire is this part-->With numerous other players to try to sign to long-term deals, the team cannot afford to keep Tomlinson at that price. So, they need to work out cap issues and they throw several million out the window on a position that they're trying to save a dime on? Oooof.

they are the only two RB's one the roster worth a darn, throw in Sproles MVP like end of season and playoff and add in his special teams ability, he is worth every penny. LT will probably be a team player and take a pay cut.

I for one love these moves.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Couldn't they put some kind of transitional tag on Sproles that would put a 2nd round pick on him?

I could be mixing that up with RFA tenders, I totally forget.

I just don't like to see franchise tags haphazardly and irresponsibly thrown on backup players.

Sincerely,

Patriot Fan

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Couldn't they put some kind of transitional tag on Sproles that would put a 2nd round pick on him?I could be mixing that up with RFA tenders, I totally forget.I just don't like to see franchise tags haphazardly and irresponsibly thrown on backup players.Sincerely,Patriot Fan

not if a player has x years in the league or some such.SProles isnt your typical backup.You need 2 RBs in the NFL now, what Sproles does he is one of the best at. He should be rewarded

 

[Sweet Love]

...poor spend of cap dollars in my opinion.

Yep. The gas-on-a-fire is this part-->With numerous other players to try to sign to long-term deals, the team cannot afford to keep Tomlinson at that price. So, they need to work out cap issues and they throw several million out the window on a position that they're trying to save a dime on? Oooof.

they are the only two RB's one the roster worth a darn, throw in Sproles MVP like end of season and playoff and add in his special teams ability, he is worth every penny. LT will probably be a team player and take a pay cut.

I for one love these moves.

RBs are not that valuable unless you happen to land an elite one. Dallas got Jones and Choice last year for a low-end first and a fourth(?), yet if they did not have Barber coming into '09 (hypothetical) and stated they would go into '09 with those two, they would be viewed as a top 10 running game...you can always, always reload at RB easier than you can at other positions...if they tag Sproles, this will end up looking worse than when the Eagles tagged Lj Smith last year (and had a guy from their bench perform better than him).

 

[Couch Potato]

Time Out. You're getting way ahead of yourself.

How does (from the article) "and possible franchise tag for Darren Sproles are among the topics the Chargers'decision-makers are mulling this week" and "The team also is considering putting the franchise tag on Sproles..." translate into the thread title, "Chargers to Tag Sproles" ??

It's being discussed, nothing more. Part of the process any team goes through at the end of the year and before the deadline. NOTHING has been decided.

Personally, I don't think they'll tag him at a cost of the average of the 5 highest paid RBs in the league, and all previous reports I've read indicate this just would make no sense. GM Smith is a lot of things, but stupid with $$ isn't one of them.

 

[eric rymer]

I like Sproles as much as the next guy, but is he actually worth this much $?

Remind me, the franchise tag means the player will make avg top 5 at his position, right? Can the Chargers declare him a KR/PR instead of a RB? (or if not him because he played RB too much, could a team do that for a player with less carries?)

I don't think they can. But this brings up a curious question for me. And feel free to call me a tard if need-be. But is PR/KR an actual position (I'm thinking no)? I thought they were listed as WR/DB/RB's that take the role of PR/KR. The franchise tag listings do not show a dollar value related to KR/PR. So IMO he has to be tagged as a RB. ETA: added link

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Time Out. You're getting way ahead of yourself.

How does (from the article) "and possible franchise tag for Darren Sproles are among the topics the Chargers'decision-makers are mulling this week" and "The team also is considering putting the franchise tag on Sproles..." translate into the thread title, "Chargers to Tag Sproles" ??

It's being discussed, nothing more. Part of the process any team goes through at the end of the year and before the deadline. NOTHING has been decided.

Personally, I don't think they'll tag him at a cost of the average of the 5 highest paid RBs in the league, and all previous reports I've read indicate this just would make no sense. GM Smith is a lot of things, but stupid with $$ isn't one of them.

I guess you missed all the ???? in the topic

 

[Couch Potato]

Time Out. You're getting way ahead of yourself.

How does (from the article) "and possible franchise tag for Darren Sproles are among the topics the Chargers'decision-makers are mulling this week" and "The team also is considering putting the franchise tag on Sproles..." translate into the thread title, "Chargers to Tag Sproles" ??

It's being discussed, nothing more. Part of the process any team goes through at the end of the year and before the deadline. NOTHING has been decided.

Personally, I don't think they'll tag him at a cost of the average of the 5 highest paid RBs in the league, and all previous reports I've read indicate this just would make no sense. GM Smith is a lot of things, but stupid with $$ isn't one of them.

I guess you missed all the ???? in the topic

Ah, I get you, I read it wrong then. I thought the ??? pertained to LT's renegotiation. Sorry.

 

[FUBAR]

I like Sproles as much as the next guy, but is he actually worth this much $?

Remind me, the franchise tag means the player will make avg top 5 at his position, right? Can the Chargers declare him a KR/PR instead of a RB? (or if not him because he played RB too much, could a team do that for a player with less carries?)

I don't think they can. But this brings up a curious question for me. And feel free to call me a tard if need-be. But is PR/KR an actual position (I'm thinking no)? I thought they were listed as WR/DB/RB's that take the role of PR/KR. The franchise tag listings do not show a dollar value related to KR/PR. So IMO he has to be tagged as a RB. ETA: added link

hypothetically speaking, if a player only was a returner, why not call him a punter? I mean, what (aside from common sense) keeps a team from doing this?

 

[Mikey16x]

I don't get why people are saying it's a bad deal if they franchise tag sproles, he's absolutely worth 6.6 million for the year. If you let go of Sproles, your basically going to have to sign 2-3 guys to take his place. Your going to need a backup RB of his caliber, Punt returner, Kick returner. It sounds cut and dry that punt returners can also return kicks but in the NFL that's not necessarily true, but yes most do both. If your going to find a decent special team specialist and a stellar backup running back... you don't think your going to spend 6.6 mill? The Chargers know what they have in Sproles, he knows the offense, he knows what's expected of him and he has performed.. to me, he's worth the tag.

Tid bit: I think the Chargers let go of the wrong RB when they let Turner walk. I said it before he left the Chargers because L.T was only getting older, I said they should have franchised him, then see what L.T does the next season. But that's also why my Madden team is stacked lol.

 

[Despyzer]

If you let go of Sproles, your basically going to have to sign 2-3 guys to take his place. Your going to need a backup RB of his caliber, Punt returner, Kick returner.

I doubt that they would have to do this. Personally, I would be interested in seeing what Cromartie or Hester could do as a full time returner.

 

[cstu]

I don't get why people are saying it's a bad deal if they franchise tag sproles, he's absolutely worth 6.6 million for the year. If you let go of Sproles, your basically going to have to sign 2-3 guys to take his place. Your going to need a backup RB of his caliber, Punt returner, Kick returner. It sounds cut and dry that punt returners can also return kicks but in the NFL that's not necessarily true, but yes most do both. If your going to find a decent special team specialist and a stellar backup running back... you don't think your going to spend 6.6 mill? The Chargers know what they have in Sproles, he knows the offense, he knows what's expected of him and he has performed.. to me, he's worth the tag.Tid bit: I think the Chargers let go of the wrong RB when they let Turner walk. I said it before he left the Chargers because L.T was only getting older, I said they should have franchised him, then see what L.T does the next season. But that's also why my Madden team is stacked lol.

The Chargers could draft Marlon Lucky with late pick and get a talented RB who also returns kicks.