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schaef2k
Footballguy
Him and the Browns offense look better each game but the oline needs to come together pretty quick or Frye is gona die.
I'm thinking the line will get it together and be average by mid season, hopefully Frye is still in one piece. He's a tough guy and they have some weapons on offense so I think he's going to do better as the season goes on but will still have a few clunkers here and there.
I was very impressed with what he did against Baltimore's D.
I'm thinking the line will get it together and be average by mid season, hopefully Frye is still in one piece. He's a tough guy and they have some weapons on offense so I think he's going to do better as the season goes on but will still have a few clunkers here and there.
I was very impressed with what he did against Baltimore's D.
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
I would definitely have to take a look at his portfolio before answering that question.No one is a threat to take Charlie's job right now, so that's good.
Charlie is taking a serious bruising, which is not good.
He's definitely a gamer, has leadership qualities, and the potential to be this generation's Kosar. However, while most young QBs force the ball into double or triple coverage or lock in on receivers, Charlie's problem is holding the ball too long and not throwing it away, leading to some hard hits. I'm afraid that he's playing with fire there, and could end the season on the IR. Derek Anderson anyone?
Maybe he meant being a top five fantasy QB . . .
thatguythere
Footballguy
Keep what going......throwing picks. The answer is YES.
What kind of league are you playing in? Mark that as the stupidest thing I've heard today.
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northwoods
Footballguy
He's the 7th best QB to date in my league.
He's thrown 2 TD's and run for 3 TD's.
He's thrown 2 TD's and run for 3 TD's.
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Vitruvian Man
Footballguy
He's sixth in my league:
1. McNabb, Donovan PHI 77
2. Manning, Eli NYG QB 75
3. Manning, Peyton IND QB 69
4. Favre, Brett GBP QB 66
5. Grossman, Rex CHI QB 64
6. Frye, Charlie CLE QB 63
7. Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 59
8. Warner, Kurt ARI QB 59
9. Carr, David HOU QB 57
10.Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB 57
1 point for every 20 yds pass, 1 for every 10 yards rush
4 points for TD pass, 6 for TD rush
no penalties for INTs
Frye's really helped by his 3 rushing TDs so far.
1. McNabb, Donovan PHI 77
2. Manning, Eli NYG QB 75
3. Manning, Peyton IND QB 69
4. Favre, Brett GBP QB 66
5. Grossman, Rex CHI QB 64
6. Frye, Charlie CLE QB 63
7. Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 59
8. Warner, Kurt ARI QB 59
9. Carr, David HOU QB 57
10.Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB 57
1 point for every 20 yds pass, 1 for every 10 yards rush
4 points for TD pass, 6 for TD rush
no penalties for INTs
Frye's really helped by his 3 rushing TDs so far.
Any league where 5 INTS and 2TD's get you a top five rating is a garbage league. This thing we play called fantasy is all about making up a fake team. A QB with 5 ints and 2 TD's doesn't win games. That league is a joke.
schaef2k
Footballguy
He's the #13 QB in my league against 3 teams that are combined 9-0 you can overlook that if you like but he could turn into a nice #2 this year.If you think Frye is the reason the Browns are 0-3 I suggest you do some research.
I live in ohio and watch the games. He isn't the reason they are losing but he isn't the reason they are winning. I have to admit though I didn't think he would do this well this year. I guess maybe I should give him the benifit of the doubt since they haven't got a running game going.
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GrandpaRox
Footballguy
He has also rushed for 3 TD's, I guess they do not count in your "special" league?He is currently the 13th highest scoring QB in Zealot leagues.
Most leagues don't base their scoring on your personal rankings . . .
Like that late interception in the endzone. If they keep the ball there they win. That bad decision on Charlie's part lost the game for them. You should take some of your own advice and try to watch the games.
Any league who's scoring system has Charlie as a top 5 is a garbage league. Are they giving points for effort now.
schaef2k
Footballguy
I have. Maybe you missed him getting blindsided on that play? There were 3:40 on the clock and Balt had all thier timeouts. The Browns had no running game at all going so the tried to go for the throat and get the TD.How can you blame Frye for that? The coaches called the play, he ran it, got hit as he threw and McAllister made a great play. The end.
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When that effort results in yardage and touchdowns, yes.
How about protecting the ball and kicking a field goal. Cleveland D played well so make Bmore score a TD rather than a FG.
schaef2k
Footballguy
We're talking about Frye right? The COACHES make the calls.Besides the way Balt was moving the ball in the second half I was fully expecting them to kick the field goal and then loose in the last 20 seconds. If Edwards makes that catch (or Frye doesn't get leveled) then it's a TD and the coaches are geniuses.
Who threw it.
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amnesiac
beer is good
ok, i'm not reading through all the crap. here's my opinion:
the Browns were much improved on paper, but they played like #### their first two games.
they played much better against the Ravens, and if they continue to improve, Frye will continue to put up some #s.
Rushing TDs: there is absolutely no way he keeps this up. he'll probably still get a few more the rest of the year though.
Rushing yards: he'll continue to pick up yards running when the play breaks down, which will continue to happen.
INTs: i've only seen Frye throw 2INTs that were his fault. the dude is hitting recievers in the hands, and the ball is bouncing to the other team. it's insane. he'll probably continue to have about 1 INT per game.
Passing TDs: i'm not sure. he seems to have problems throwing the closer he gets to the endzone. but he'll likely continue to chuck some long ones to Braylon and toss some jump balls to Winslow, who will come down with most of those.
if Jerivicious comes back healthy, expect the offense as a whole to be improved, as he is a much surer pass catcher than Northcutt or Cribbs.
overall, i really don't like Frye as a #1 fantasy QB, but i think he's a great #2.
the Browns were much improved on paper, but they played like #### their first two games.
they played much better against the Ravens, and if they continue to improve, Frye will continue to put up some #s.
Rushing TDs: there is absolutely no way he keeps this up. he'll probably still get a few more the rest of the year though.
Rushing yards: he'll continue to pick up yards running when the play breaks down, which will continue to happen.
INTs: i've only seen Frye throw 2INTs that were his fault. the dude is hitting recievers in the hands, and the ball is bouncing to the other team. it's insane. he'll probably continue to have about 1 INT per game.
Passing TDs: i'm not sure. he seems to have problems throwing the closer he gets to the endzone. but he'll likely continue to chuck some long ones to Braylon and toss some jump balls to Winslow, who will come down with most of those.
if Jerivicious comes back healthy, expect the offense as a whole to be improved, as he is a much surer pass catcher than Northcutt or Cribbs.
overall, i really don't like Frye as a #1 fantasy QB, but i think he's a great #2.
schaef2k
Footballguy
Are you seriously going to blame the QB because he got leveled by a LB and threw a pick? Well then every QB in the NFL sucks.You're ######ed. Thanks for playing.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
It would all depend on your scoring system. If your league doesn't penalize heavily for INT's or fumbles, rewards for long TD's and scores rushing TD's at 2+ plus higher than passing TD's then yeah, I wouldn't mind having him there as a spot-starter.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
Here's my league's QB scoring leaders:
1) D. McNabb 88.9
2) E. Manning 83.85
3) P. Manning 79.95
4) C. Frye 77.5
5) B. Favre 75.1
If he keeps running in TD's the guy could make a nice fantasy QB. I could care less of if the Browns win or not as well as any statistics my leagues doesn't penalize for. (INT & Fs)
looks like his value depends on scoring rules.
1) D. McNabb 88.9
2) E. Manning 83.85
3) P. Manning 79.95
4) C. Frye 77.5
5) B. Favre 75.1
If he keeps running in TD's the guy could make a nice fantasy QB. I could care less of if the Browns win or not as well as any statistics my leagues doesn't penalize for. (INT & Fs)
looks like his value depends on scoring rules.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
The world became a better place when it began revolving around Stashy's scoring system.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
There is a lot to go around so you may have to wait awhile
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dancingbones
Footballguy
Josh the FunkDOC
Footballguy
I'm trying to drop McNair for Frye this week.
The Ravens D has been even better than expected thus far, and McNair has been worse than expected thus far.
Meanwhile, Edwards and Winslow are both reaching their upside, and Joe J. will return fairly soon. And the Browns have no running game, no matter who carries the ball.
Basically, I think Frye will be a good enough QB2 the rest of the way. The rushing TDs won't continue at this pace, of course, but don't expect them to completely dry up, either; their RBs aren't going to see the end zone very often since the team can't block anybody.
The Ravens D has been even better than expected thus far, and McNair has been worse than expected thus far.
Meanwhile, Edwards and Winslow are both reaching their upside, and Joe J. will return fairly soon. And the Browns have no running game, no matter who carries the ball.
Basically, I think Frye will be a good enough QB2 the rest of the way. The rushing TDs won't continue at this pace, of course, but don't expect them to completely dry up, either; their RBs aren't going to see the end zone very often since the team can't block anybody.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
chris1969
Footballguy
Everyone move along...A Steeler fan saw a Browns thread and stopped to take a pee.Nothing new to see here.
I have Braylon on my team so I don't want him to struggle. I just think it is rediculous to think of Charlie Frye as a Top 5 QB.I don't see myself as being an idiot because I argue Frye not being a Top 5 QB. I see myself as a realist.
