Chase Daniel (1 Viewer)

[HawkeyeChief]

If Brees went down what are your thoughts on Daniel?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Plus arm, decent mobility. Career backup IMHO...and I am a huge Mizzou fan.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

If Brees went down what are your thoughts on Daniel?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

UDFA + still in the league = worth a flyer

 

[FUBAR]

Plus arm, decent mobility. Career backup IMHO...and I am a huge Mizzou fan.

hey! A Mizzou and a KU fan agree on something! I think if Brees went down, Daniels could be a viable fill in, but nothing more.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

He has some pretty good skills. He's mobile, decent arm, seems pretty smart and for a young guy makes very few mistakes. He's probably the first Saints backup QB I've felt comfortable with in a long, long time.

 

[Phlash]

He put up monster passing numbers at Mizzou. He isn't exceptional in any particular category but he's pretty good at everything.

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

i think Chase is in an absolutely ideal situation. learning from a great QB who isn't exactly a physical monster. he may never start w/o an injury (not necessarily w/the saints), but if the opportunity comes during/after his 3d year in the league, i can see him making something out of the opportunity.

but it's nice to see that the Saints have enough confidence in him to only carry two QBs.

 

[schu]

Plus arm, decent mobility. Career backup IMHO...and I am a huge Mizzou fan.

hey! A Mizzou and a KU fan agree on something! I think if Brees went down, Daniels could be a viable fill in, but nothing more.

Don't make any sudden moves or you'll scare away the rarest of animals - a KU football fan. Chase makes great decisions quickly. As said above he's in a perfect situation for him.

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

He put up monster passing numbers at Mizzou. He isn't exceptional in any particular category but he's pretty good at everything.

Having Maclin helped to. But I guess Colston and the bunch would be just as good. It was a spread Offense at Mizzou to. So he was given ample oppertunity to throw. Career backup.

 

[B. Nugget]

He put up monster passing numbers at Mizzou. He isn't exceptional in any particular category but he's pretty good at everything.

Having Maclin helped to. But I guess Colston and the bunch would be just as good. It was a spread Offense at Mizzou to. So he was given ample oppertunity to throw. Career backup.

Likely a career backup, but you never know what could happen if a guy gets a chance and is surrounded by talent. He does make quick decisions and he has a history of producing...wierder things have happened.

 

[Banemorth]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.

News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.

Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)

Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.

News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.

Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)

Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

I don't see either one of those things happening.More like Holmes, Hill, Edwards (if he'll re-sign cheap), Kerley and Cumberland - still not all that terrible, but far from loaded.

 

[Banemorth]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.

News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.

Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)

Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

I don't see either one of those things happening.More like Holmes, Hill, Edwards (if he'll re-sign cheap), Kerley and Cumberland - still not all that terrible, but far from loaded.

I'm not going to argue that point or not. That's another discussion for another thread. Do you feel that if he has some decent talent he can be a viable QB2 and do you think that he can beat out that motley crew?I never saw him play in college, just his preseason work, and he looked really sharp while he was out there. Obviously the regular season is another animal entirely.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

What was the knock on Daniels coming out? Was he hurt? Popgun arm? Seems like he should have been drafted even if it was as a backup.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

As a Mizzou fan, no. Sure, he put up big numbers in Mizzou's pass-happy, hurry-up, always in the shotgun, college offense, but unless he landed in an exact offense like that in the pros, I don't see him ever being an NFL starter (unless the guys ahead of him get hurt and he HAS to start), much less being a viable fantasy starter. Not gonna happen.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.

News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.

Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)

Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

Trade McElroy to Pitt for a 7th.thx

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm bringing up this dead thread.

News that the Jets might be interested (lol...) and with Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow and McElroy gracing the roster it wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up and he won the starting job.

Thoughts? If they manage to hang onto Keller and take a WR in the 1st he'd have some decent options to throw to. (Keller, Hill, Holmes, 1st Round Rookie... Patterson?, Kerley...)

Worth a flier late in a 2QB league?

I don't see either one of those things happening.More like Holmes, Hill, Edwards (if he'll re-sign cheap), Kerley and Cumberland - still not all that terrible, but far from loaded.

I'm not going to argue that point or not. That's another discussion for another thread. Do you feel that if he has some decent talent he can be a viable QB2 and do you think that he can beat out that motley crew?I never saw him play in college, just his preseason work, and he looked really sharp while he was out there. Obviously the regular season is another animal entirely.

Sorry, I don't know enough about Daniels to speak to his talent. Obviously he wouldn't have to exactly beat out Montana and Young, so sure he'd have a shot at least.Jets don't have enough cap room to bring back Keller. They've slapped a 2nd round tag on restricted FA Jeff Cumberland and that slug will be playing TE for them next season (unless they can draft one). I'm hoping that they pass on a WR at 9, even though I like Patterson. I just don't think that's good value in a deep WR draft.

 

[B. Nugget]

Chase is coming to KC according to Schefter!

Don't be surprised if he takes the job from noodle arm Smith.

 

[Steed]

The Missouri/kc fans are gonna have a field day when Alex smith throws his 1st pick

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Took the time to post something on Daniel. He's someone I've been interested in for awhile, and it seemed like now was a good time to pull it all together.

 

[jonboltz]

Chase is coming to KC according to Schefter!

Don't be surprised if he takes the job from noodle arm Smith.

I believe you might not be that well versed in the arm strength of Chase Daniel.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Chase is coming to KC according to Schefter!

Don't be surprised if he takes the job from noodle arm Smith.

I believe you might not be that well versed in the arm strength of Chase Daniel.

Was that the knock on him coming out of Missouri? Played in a spread and couldn't make NFL throws?

 

[jonboltz]

Chase is coming to KC according to Schefter!

Don't be surprised if he takes the job from noodle arm Smith.

I believe you might not be that well versed in the arm strength of Chase Daniel.

Was that the knock on him coming out of Missouri? Played in a spread and couldn't make NFL throws?

His arm strength, size, and college system were all concerns. If I had to pick, I'd believe that Smith actually has the stronger arm of the two. That being said, the WCO doesn't need great arm strength, and I think both Smith and Daniel could do well there.

 

[Warpig]

He's better than Blaine Gabbert and Gabbert was the #10 overall pick.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

He's better than Blaine Gabbert and Gabbert was the #10 overall pick.

Yet there was some reason he went undrafted. He's short, which NFL teams hate even if the guy can play, but that's not enough to explain being an UDFA when he came out. There was something they really didn't like.

 

[Henry Ford]

He's better than Blaine Gabbert and Gabbert was the #10 overall pick.

Yet there was some reason he went undrafted. He's short, which NFL teams hate even if the guy can play, but that's not enough to explain being an UDFA when he came out. There was something they really didn't like.

It was pretty much height and the spread offense he ran in college. He's shown he's at least smart enough for a very complex offense, now that Sean Payton's kept him on the roster for awhile, which answers some of that - and Brees and Wilson have answered some of the height questions for the NFL right now.If Alex Smith falters, Chase Daniel will take advantage of it. Kid's got a lot of talent.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Chase is coming to KC according to Schefter!Don't be surprised if he takes the job from noodle arm Smith.

Saints and Saints fans have really liked him.Have to feel for Smith. He probably thinks he's pretty secure. Wait `til the Mizzou fans weigh in if things go sour.Daniel has looked better and better for the Saints, in preseason and limited chances anyway, and there's no sense in waiting for him to have his Matt Flynn moment (and he's never had that chance), at which point he would be too expensive. But it's hard to say just how good or not good he is because he's never had a real start. He's also been locked up in a pass-centric "system." But he's a gamer and he can run, and he's been training under Payton and Brees.

 

[Warpig]

He's better than Blaine Gabbert and Gabbert was the #10 overall pick.

Yet there was some reason he went undrafted. He's short, which NFL teams hate even if the guy can play, but that's not enough to explain being an UDFA when he came out. There was something they really didn't like.

It was pretty much height and the spread offense he ran in college. He's shown he's at least smart enough for a very complex offense, now that Sean Payton's kept him on the roster for awhile, which answers some of that - and Brees and Wilson have answered some of the height questions for the NFL right now.If Alex Smith falters, Chase Daniel will take advantage of it. Kid's got a lot of talent.

Exactly. I think it was his height and the fact that he ran a spread offense. But with the success of other QBs from spread offenses recently I think the NFL is starting to soften on that.I'd take him as the Jags starting QB right now. He seems way tougher than Gabbert.

 

[Henry Ford]

He's better than Blaine Gabbert and Gabbert was the #10 overall pick.

Yet there was some reason he went undrafted. He's short, which NFL teams hate even if the guy can play, but that's not enough to explain being an UDFA when he came out. There was something they really didn't like.

It was pretty much height and the spread offense he ran in college. He's shown he's at least smart enough for a very complex offense, now that Sean Payton's kept him on the roster for awhile, which answers some of that - and Brees and Wilson have answered some of the height questions for the NFL right now.If Alex Smith falters, Chase Daniel will take advantage of it. Kid's got a lot of talent.

Exactly. I think it was his height and the fact that he ran a spread offense. But with the success of other QBs from spread offenses recently I think the NFL is starting to soften on that.I'd take him as the Jags starting QB right now. He seems way tougher than Gabbert.

I'm actually a little surprised he didn't end up in Jacksonville or with the Jets.

 

[Faust]

Making the Leap: No. 35 Chiefs QB Chase Daniel

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League Editor

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Around The League will profile the top 40 players we see Making a Leap in 2013.

No. 35 Chase Daniel

Why he's on the list
Daniel became an unconventional "Making the Leap" candidate in part because of the requirement that we choose one player from each team. Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry made sense after a down 2012, but he was already great as a rookie. Third-year offensive guard Jon Asamoah was probably the best choice overall -- I've heard from multiple people around the Chiefs that he's a future star. Pro Football Focus chose Asamoah as their "Secret Superstar" for the Chiefs.

But let's be honest: I have no idea how to evaluate guard play. Few football writers do, if any. I watched Game Rewind on Asamoah and could see he was a powerful player, but I'm a few years away in my development from saying someone is a "road grader" without being a total phony.

That leads me back to Daniel. My ATL colleagues believe I'm crazy for this pick, but I have a strong feeling that he's the next Kevin Kolb-like creation from Andy Reid after Daniel signed a three-year, $10 million deal in the offseason to back up Alex Smith. The preseason tape backs me up.

A few things stand out from watching Daniel's 64 throws from last preseason:

1. He's naturally good at moving in the pocket and creating throwing lanes. This is necessary as a quarterback generously listed at 6-foot, but Daniel has better pocket presence than plenty of starters. He stands in the pocket and takes a hit well.

2. Daniel hardly has a gun, but he still completed plenty of vertical passes because he's accurate. He completed more than 70 percent of his passes in the preseason. He has enough arm strength and usually makes quick decisions.

His throws up the sideline sometimes fit into very small windows. He averaged 8.4 yards per attempt over the last two preseasons, a sensational number.

3. My wife is going to divorce me for watching 64 throws from Chase Daniel in the preseason.

Obstacles
There is no quarterback competition in Kansas City. It's Alex Smith's job and will remain Smith's job for as long as possible because of the investment that Reid and the Chiefs made in Smith. But there's a reason Smith has only started more than 10 games in two of his seven NFL season. Injuries happen. Seasons don't always go as planned, especially when learning another new offense.

The odds are that Daniel gets a shot or three to play in 2013. That's just how the NFL usually works. If he gets that chance, Daniel will have to prove his decision-making and accuracy can overcome any height and arm strength concerns.

2013 ExpectationsReid's quick-strike offense is perfectly suited to Daniel's skill set. There are few coaches better than Reid at maximizing quarterbacks who are just like Daniel. If Daniel gets his shot either from Smith getting injury or being ineffective, Daniel can make some noise and money like Matt Flynn or Kolb. (Or Reid's old understudy, A.J. Feeley.)

Daniel might not be another Drew Brees, but it's not so crazy to imagine him as another Ryan Fitzpatrick. That would be quite a leap for a 26-year-old undrafted player with nine career passing attempts.

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