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The biggest takeaway fantasy-wise from last night’s preseason games is that Chaz Schilens has the potential to be a monster in PPR leagues. I imagine he can be had in most redraft leagues later in the draft, but that will soon change.

As mentioned, he caught 5 balls for 52 yards AND he drew pass interference on a 47 yard bomb from Russell. Russell and Schilens look like they have a mind-meld. Schilens competes for the ball, in contrast to the rookies that were lining up across from him. Hopefully, Higgins will line up on the other side when the season starts.

Patoons was the first poster I saw to champion him on these boards and to me, this kid is the real deal. Height: 6-4 Weight: 225 Age: 23 and from what I've read about him, his intangibles match the physical.

 
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I think he'll catch a ton of balls. The biggest thing is that he appears to be Jamarcus's first look on downfield (non-screen) passes. Obviously the playcalling may have him as the first option, but having the QB looking for him is a big deal. I could easily envision 80 catches and 1000 yards.

 
Abraham said:
I think he'll catch a ton of balls. The biggest thing is that he appears to be Jamarcus's first look on downfield (non-screen) passes. Obviously the playcalling may have him as the first option, but having the QB looking for him is a big deal. I could easily envision 80 catches and 1000 yards.
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until DHB shows he can actually catch a ball thrown by russell to him - which is an indictment of both players, i think - then schilens represents a terrific value. dhb will get his chances to shine but schilens will prove to be more reliable. mcfadden and miller will get targeted a lot too but schilens should lead the team in receptions.
 
The regular season plays out almost exactly like the first preseason game does. As such, I expect Schilens to be the #1 FF WR this year and break all kinds of records for both catches and yards.

 
Some of you posters contribute NOTHING to this board. :popcorn:

I l ike what I saw out of Chaz last night and consider a possible 7th rd sleeper ALA Colston.

 
Billy Ball Thorton said:
Some of you posters contribute NOTHING to this board. :popcorn: I l ike what I saw out of Chaz last night and consider a possible 7th rd sleeper ALA Colston.
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I don't know if you were talking about me, but I do think the Johnny Lee question is relevant since it's unlikely Oakland will produce 2 break out WRs. With DHB likely to get every opportunity and Javon Walker still hanging around, there's only likely to be opportunity for Schilens or JLH. Has Schilens locked down a spot ahead of Higgins on the depth chart?
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Billy Ball Thorton said:
Some of you posters contribute NOTHING to this board. :confused: I l ike what I saw out of Chaz last night and consider a possible 7th rd sleeper ALA Colston.
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I don't know if you were talking about me, but I do think the Johnny Lee question is relevant since it's unlikely Oakland will produce 2 break out WRs. With DHB likely to get every opportunity and Javon Walker still hanging around, there's only likely to be opportunity for Schilens or JLH. Has Schilens locked down a spot ahead of Higgins on the depth chart?
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Pretty sure an honest question is always safe around here. It is the posts dripping with sarcasm that are not valued.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Billy Ball Thorton said:
Some of you posters contribute NOTHING to this board. :confused: I l ike what I saw out of Chaz last night and consider a possible 7th rd sleeper ALA Colston.
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I don't know if you were talking about me, but I do think the Johnny Lee question is relevant since it's unlikely Oakland will produce 2 break out WRs. With DHB likely to get every opportunity and Javon Walker still hanging around, there's only likely to be opportunity for Schilens or JLH. Has Schilens locked down a spot ahead of Higgins on the depth chart?
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IMO Schilens and Miller will be the receiving options in Oakland with good value this year. Higgins will likely be playing a good deal out of the slot, assuming DHB starts. In that role, I expect Higgins will likely be behind at least Schilens, Miller, and the collective RBs, particularly McFadden, and maybe also behind DHB in targets.
 
Hey, the kid looked good. One quarter of preseason doesn't mean much, as some have toolish-ly pointed out. Of course, if he had dropped two passes, there would have been different tools in here, saying, "So much for that sleeper..."

The word all summer was he was catching everything, and I had heard in the spring he was working hard even before minicamp.

For those that didn't watch the game, he was smooth, fast, and most impressive, went up and got the ball. Great example was a deep ball to DHB, who didn't fight for it, and it was knocked away. Next play, Schilens goes up for it deep, and draws a PI. He caught the ball with a man on him, caught it downfield, but his best play was a short pass from Gradkowski in the flat, underthrown, that Schilens had to slide down to get, with a defender right there. He popped up amazingly fast, switched the ball to his outside hand, then made a great move on the sideline to jump over the first down marker.

He seemed real comfortable, smooth, and confident. He looked like a teams #1 WR.

Still remains to be seen what kind of fantasy impact the guy can have, the Raiders pass blocking and JaMarcus have to help him out.

Also, FWIW, JaMarcus and Louis Murphy looked good.

 
I would wait and see before projecting 1000 yards. I think Miller will take a lot of those catches. Schilens may be the Raiders #1 WR, but remember that Miller lead the team in catches last year. Schilens has a massive wingspan which is good when you look at who is throwing the ball.

 
He looked good to me, caught the ball well. I don't know how good his wheels are, but he had the defense beat pretty badly on that P.I. call, Jamarcus needs to show that big arm on plays like that, should have been a TD. Schilens looks light years ahead of DHB at this point.

 
dotman said:
He looked good to me, caught the ball well. I don't know how good his wheels are, but he had the defense beat pretty badly on that P.I. call, Jamarcus needs to show that big arm on plays like that, should have been a TD. Schilens looks light years ahead of DHB at this point.
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Yeah, that was JaMarcus' only bad throw. He needs to realize how fast his WRs are.
 
massraider said:
Hey, the kid looked good. One quarter of preseason doesn't mean much, as some have toolish-ly pointed out. Of course, if he had dropped two passes, there would have been different tools in here, saying, "So much for that sleeper..."

The word all summer was he was catching everything, and I had heard in the spring he was working hard even before minicamp.

For those that didn't watch the game, he was smooth, fast, and most impressive, went up and got the ball. Great example was a deep ball to DHB, who didn't fight for it, and it was knocked away. Next play, Schilens goes up for it deep, and draws a PI. He caught the ball with a man on him, caught it downfield, but his best play was a short pass from Gradkowski in the flat, underthrown, that Schilens had to slide down to get, with a defender right there. He popped up amazingly fast, switched the ball to his outside hand, then made a great move on the sideline to jump over the first down marker.

He seemed real comfortable, smooth, and confident. He looked like a teams #1 WR.

Still remains to be seen what kind of fantasy impact the guy can have, the Raiders pass blocking and JaMarcus have to help him out.

Also, FWIW, JaMarcus and Louis Murphy looked good.
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Thanks for filling in the cracks here... The intent was to highlight a great performance in a game that wasn't seen by a lot of people and wasn't mentioned in the FBG daily email. The Bay Area had to watch it at 10pm because it was blacked out live...The performance matches what we've been hearing in camp, so it's noteworthy.

 
massraider said:
Hey, the kid looked good. One quarter of preseason doesn't mean much, as some have toolish-ly pointed out. Of course, if he had dropped two passes, there would have been different tools in here, saying, "So much for that sleeper..."

The word all summer was he was catching everything, and I had heard in the spring he was working hard even before minicamp.

For those that didn't watch the game, he was smooth, fast, and most impressive, went up and got the ball. Great example was a deep ball to DHB, who didn't fight for it, and it was knocked away. Next play, Schilens goes up for it deep, and draws a PI. He caught the ball with a man on him, caught it downfield, but his best play was a short pass from Gradkowski in the flat, underthrown, that Schilens had to slide down to get, with a defender right there. He popped up amazingly fast, switched the ball to his outside hand, then made a great move on the sideline to jump over the first down marker.

He seemed real comfortable, smooth, and confident. He looked like a teams #1 WR.

Still remains to be seen what kind of fantasy impact the guy can have, the Raiders pass blocking and JaMarcus have to help him out.

Also, FWIW, JaMarcus and Louis Murphy looked good.
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FreeBaGeL said:
The regular season plays out almost exactly like the first preseason game does. As such, I expect Schilens to be the #1 FF WR this year and break all kinds of records for both catches and yards.
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the second coming of Randy Moss, whooooo whoooo
 
Before I officially jump on board this train, can some of you already on board answer these questions for me?

Why did he slip to the 7th round?

Someone mentioned a foot injury/injuries- can someone provide details or a quick synopsis?

Are the measurements - 40 time, vertical, from his proday or did he work out at the combine?

 
baconisgood said:
Before I officially jump on board this train, can some of you already on board answer these questions for me?

Why did he slip to the 7th round?

Someone mentioned a foot injury/injuries- can someone provide details or a quick synopsis?

Are the measurements - 40 time, vertical, from his proday or did he work out at the combine?
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Here, I'll cut and paste what I posted elsewhere when EBF said he wasn't dynamic:Not dynamic? He has jump-and-catch written all over him at 6'4/220. His measurables and athleticism were great coming out of college, including a 4.38 40 at his pro day and 43" vertical, plus a 10'4" broad jump, a 4.25 shuttle, and a 6.84 three-cone drill. His numbers are strangely similar to Calvin Johnson, which garnered some press. Yes, numbers are just numbers, but saying Schilens isn't dynamic seems really peculiar.

As a reminder, he didn't start playing football until his junior year of high school, but still found himself at a decent college program. His biggest problem was a history of injury (stress fracture in foot, ankle), which caused a lack of production at San Diego State. This is also what held him back last year, as he finished the season strong but had been battling foot injuries. That's the only thing holding him back.

He slipped to the 7th round most likely because of 1) questions about durability, 2) lack of football experience/rawness, and 3) smaller program.

Here's another couple of links about him: http://archives.signonsandiego.com/uniontr...1s28azfoot.html and http://raiders.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2192709

 
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lyon812 said:
baconisgood said:
Before I officially jump on board this train, can some of you already on board answer these questions for me?

Why did he slip to the 7th round?

Someone mentioned a foot injury/injuries- can someone provide details or a quick synopsis?

Are the measurements - 40 time, vertical, from his proday or did he work out at the combine?
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Here, I'll cut and paste what I posted elsewhere when EBF said he wasn't dynamic:Not dynamic? He has jump-and-catch written all over him at 6'4/220. His measurables and athleticism were great coming out of college, including a 4.38 40 at his pro day and 43" vertical, plus a 10'4" broad jump, a 4.25 shuttle, and a 6.84 three-cone drill. His numbers are strangely similar to Calvin Johnson, which garnered some press. Yes, numbers are just numbers, but saying Schilens isn't dynamic seems really peculiar.

As a reminder, he didn't start playing football until his junior year of high school, but still found himself at a decent college program. His biggest problem was a history of injury (stress fracture in foot, ankle), which caused a lack of production at San Diego State. This is also what held him back last year, as he finished the season strong but had been battling foot injuries. That's the only thing holding him back.

He slipped to the 7th round most likely because of 1) questions about durability, 2) lack of football experience/rawness, and 3) smaller program.

Here's another couple of links about him: http://archives.signonsandiego.com/uniontr...1s28azfoot.html and http://raiders.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2192709
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why is EBF so high on him when he has no pedigree? I mean, obviously he doesn't he was drafted in the 7th. What's his BMI?
 
two_dollars said:
lyon812 said:
baconisgood said:
Before I officially jump on board this train, can some of you already on board answer these questions for me?

Why did he slip to the 7th round?

Someone mentioned a foot injury/injuries- can someone provide details or a quick synopsis?

Are the measurements - 40 time, vertical, from his proday or did he work out at the combine?
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Here, I'll cut and paste what I posted elsewhere when EBF said he wasn't dynamic:Not dynamic? He has jump-and-catch written all over him at 6'4/220. His measurables and athleticism were great coming out of college, including a 4.38 40 at his pro day and 43" vertical, plus a 10'4" broad jump, a 4.25 shuttle, and a 6.84 three-cone drill. His numbers are strangely similar to Calvin Johnson, which garnered some press. Yes, numbers are just numbers, but saying Schilens isn't dynamic seems really peculiar.

As a reminder, he didn't start playing football until his junior year of high school, but still found himself at a decent college program. His biggest problem was a history of injury (stress fracture in foot, ankle), which caused a lack of production at San Diego State. This is also what held him back last year, as he finished the season strong but had been battling foot injuries. That's the only thing holding him back.

He slipped to the 7th round most likely because of 1) questions about durability, 2) lack of football experience/rawness, and 3) smaller program.

Here's another couple of links about him: http://archives.signonsandiego.com/uniontr...1s28azfoot.html and http://raiders.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2192709
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why is EBF so high on him when he has no pedigree? I mean, obviously he doesn't he was drafted in the 7th. What's his BMI?
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You're misreading what I said. EBF said he was ok, but not dynamic. Note the bolded part. I was only including that so that people would have some context for my copied post.
 
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baconisgood said:
Are the measurements - 40 time, vertical, from his proday or did he work out at the combine?
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Chaz's numbers are from his Pro-Day. For reference, Spencer Larsen (DEN) also worked out at the same Pro-Day where he ran a 4.82/40. Larsen also attended the Combine and ran a 4.85/40. I would think that Chaz's 4.38 is pretty darn close to legit.
 
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