Chaz Schilens ? (1 Viewer)

[drmcpa]

I want to pick him up before he returns and want to know when to pull the trigger and I don't want to waster a waiver spot prematurely. Does anyone have any insight?

 

[California]

Latest news I have is that he will be out this week vs KC.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

my insight is to use the search function.

 

[Avery]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

 

[drmcpa]

may have found the answer to my own question on another site. It is being reported that he will be out 1 to two weeks, and definitely out this weekend.

 

[az_prof]

I have a feeling that if he can play through the pain that Schillens will be back week 3 when Oakland plays Denver. Big division rival game... That will have been six weeks of rehab too.

 

[netnalp]

He's been running this week. If he practices next week then he'll probably see some snaps week 3.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

He's been running this week. If he practices next week then he'll probably see some snaps week 3.

Not that I don't believe you, but want to know where you pick info like this up -- TIA.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

See post #26 from 2 days ago. Evidently one of us isn't terribly adept at using the search function. Schilens link

 

[Avery]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

See post #26 from 2 days ago. Evidently one of us isn't terribly adept at using the search function. Schilens link

Thanks!... or you could have just linked to that in the first place.

 

[gnarboots11]

Is he really that good? I mean I heard the hype before the injury, but it's the friggin raiders and jemarcus russel. I mean by the time he comes back russel is going to have a new best buddy in Murphy, so the best case scenario I see for schilens is a split in targets with Murphdogg, which seems like a pretty risky play week 2 week.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Is he really that good? I mean I heard the hype before the injury, but it's the friggin raiders and jemarcus russel. I mean by the time he comes back russel is going to have a new best buddy in Murphy, so the best case scenario I see for schilens is a split in targets with Murphdogg, which seems like a pretty risky play week 2 week.

I saw a blurb in Sporting News a while back that referred to Schilens having shown he will be one of the best WRs in the NFL. It made me take notice. We'll see.

 

[netnalp]

He's been running this week. If he practices next week then he'll probably see some snaps week 3.

Not that I don't believe you, but want to know where you pick info like this up -- TIA.

Rotoworld:The San Francisco Chronicle doesn't anticipate Chaz Schilens (foot) rejoining the Raiders' lineup before Week 4.

Schilens is cleared to run, but has a ways to go before he'll be able to cut on his surgically repaired foot. Louis Murphy is impressing in his absence, so Schilens may not be a featured player when he gets back on the field.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

I don't think Murphy will take the #1 job from Schilens. Schilens is a big target like Murphy, he did great at the end of last season, ota's, camp and preseason. I think Schilens will have a good year and then really breakout next season. I'll try to find a link, of the comparison to Brandon Marshall ability sans the headcase part.

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

 

[Morton Muffley]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

See post #26 from 2 days ago. Evidently one of us isn't terribly adept at using the search function. Schilens link

Thanks!... or you could have just linked to that in the first place.

seriously dude, wtf is the matter with you? why the toolish response? when did it become theresponsibility of others to act as you own personal search engine? perhaps a little more gratitude is in ordern no?apologies if this is coming off as a rant, but I'm growing increasingly annoyed by the expectations of posters around here

 

[flranger]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

See post #26 from 2 days ago. Evidently one of us isn't terribly adept at using the search function. Schilens link

Thanks!... or you could have just linked to that in the first place.

seriously dude, wtf is the matter with you? why the toolish response? when did it become theresponsibility of others to act as you own personal search engine? perhaps a little more gratitude is in ordern no?apologies if this is coming off as a rant, but I'm growing increasingly annoyed by the expectations of posters around here

Please don't waste this thread on a pissing match guys. I'm pretty confident Chaz is going to make a significant impact this year, and keeping up with his injury status could be key for a bunch of teams this year. Pissing matches should be handled over IM and not messing up otherwise good threads.

 

[flranger]

If your league allows IR, he is a great guy to grab and stash. Sooner or later though he will end up listed as doubtful and you'll have to make a decision.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

See post #26 from 2 days ago. Evidently one of us isn't terribly adept at using the search function. Schilens link

Thanks!... or you could have just linked to that in the first place.

Well, until you posted the first snarkish reply, I didn't realize it was my job to teach others to use the search function. When you insisted that it didn't work, I decided to prove how easy it is to use.Have fun. Hopefully Schilens comes back soon.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Please don't waste this thread on a pissing match guys. I'm pretty confident Chaz is going to make a significant impact this year, and keeping up with his injury status could be key for a bunch of teams this year. Pissing matches should be handled over IM and not messing up otherwise good threads.

Or we could all just use the other, older Schilens threads referenced above.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

 

[az_prof]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

Do you have a link that shows how he was injury prone in college? I couldn't find evidence of that but maybe I am missing something. This link says he had 17 straight starts before missing the last four games of his college career. That doesn't sound injury prone to me.I suspect he fell to seventh round despite great physical performance at combines because he played for a small school (San Diego State) and he didn't put up monster numbers there either.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/s...ensFinalBio.pdf

 

[Raiderfan32904]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

Do you have a link that shows how he was injury prone in college? I couldn't find evidence of that but maybe I am missing something. This link says he had 17 straight starts before missing the last four games of his college career. That doesn't sound injury prone to me.I suspect he fell to seventh round despite great physical performance at combines because he played for a small school (San Diego State) and he didn't put up monster numbers there either.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/s...ensFinalBio.pdf

Whew..I hate to be called and not have the answer for you. I have followed Jerry Mac's blog for some time. I can't remember the actual post, but I do remember that there was discussion of Chaz's injury history in college. It is a fairly old post though. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[az_prof]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

Do you have a link that shows how he was injury prone in college? I couldn't find evidence of that but maybe I am missing something. This link says he had 17 straight starts before missing the last four games of his college career. That doesn't sound injury prone to me.I suspect he fell to seventh round despite great physical performance at combines because he played for a small school (San Diego State) and he didn't put up monster numbers there either.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/s...ensFinalBio.pdf

Whew..I hate to be called and not have the answer for you. I have followed Jerry Mac's blog for some time. I can't remember the actual post, but I do remember that there was discussion of Chaz's injury history in college. It is a fairly old post though. I'll see if I can find it.

No problem. I see you a Raider fan and it could be that one of the beat writers mentioned this and you remember it. I wasn't aware before this thread that he was such a physical beast. I like him even more now! I had thought he was just a slow, big possession Wr; but he has the speed to really get down the field too and great jumping ability.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

Do you have a link that shows how he was injury prone in college? I couldn't find evidence of that but maybe I am missing something. This link says he had 17 straight starts before missing the last four games of his college career. That doesn't sound injury prone to me.I suspect he fell to seventh round despite great physical performance at combines because he played for a small school (San Diego State) and he didn't put up monster numbers there either.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/s...ensFinalBio.pdf

Whew..I hate to be called and not have the answer for you. I have followed Jerry Mac's blog for some time. I can't remember the actual post, but I do remember that there was discussion of Chaz's injury history in college. It is a fairly old post though. I'll see if I can find it.

No problem. I see you a Raider fan and it could be that one of the beat writers mentioned this and you remember it. I wasn't aware before this thread that he was such a physical beast. I like him even more now! I had thought he was just a slow, big possession Wr; but he has the speed to really get down the field too and great jumping ability.

Oh, no..Al Davis loves speed. And Chaz was the Raiders secret weapon. He was going to shock and awe. Tremendously gifted athlete, great body control, and SPEEEED to burn. He is a more polished version of Michael Crabtree. Really Crabtree being an ### and the fact they already had a WR freak had a huge impact on why they didn't take Crabs. JLH was very comparable to Maclin. So they felt they needed DHB. For the life of me, I don't see why they didn't take Eugene Monroe or Raji. My guess is this. If Al Davis knew that Murphy would fall to the 4th round, he never would have taken a first round receiver. Chaz and Murph are all we needed with JLH in the slot.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism. The NFL has a history of never-weres. Those stories are just obscure and line birdcages.

You have to accept the baggage that a guy like that will give you.

fwiw, I love the guy. I wish him to "break out". But the reality is he is an injury prone talent, (think Deion Branch).

I truly hope that I am wrong. He will could be the Mark Fidrych of football. But I don't doubt he will quickly flame out.

Do you have a link that shows how he was injury prone in college? I couldn't find evidence of that but maybe I am missing something. This link says he had 17 straight starts before missing the last four games of his college career. That doesn't sound injury prone to me.I suspect he fell to seventh round despite great physical performance at combines because he played for a small school (San Diego State) and he didn't put up monster numbers there either.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/s...ensFinalBio.pdf

Whew..I hate to be called and not have the answer for you. I have followed Jerry Mac's blog for some time. I can't remember the actual post, but I do remember that there was discussion of Chaz's injury history in college. It is a fairly old post though. I'll see if I can find it.

No problem. I see you a Raider fan and it could be that one of the beat writers mentioned this and you remember it. I wasn't aware before this thread that he was such a physical beast. I like him even more now! I had thought he was just a slow, big possession Wr; but he has the speed to really get down the field too and great jumping ability.

High School: An all-region pick in Arizona as a free safety and receiver ... Caught 35

passes for 648 yards ... Recorded 53 tackles with six interceptions on the defensive side

... Credited with four pass break-ups and caused three fumbles ... Also earned four varsity

letters in baseball and was an all-region selection as an outfielder … An invitee to the

Arizona state all-star football game ... Was drafted in the 34th round of the Major League

Baseball draft by the Detroit Tigers out of high school.

34th round? How many rounds are in the baseball draft.

 

[SSOG]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

34th round? How many rounds are in the baseball draft.

The baseball draft doesn't actually end. It started back in 1922 and the teams have been picking continuously since then. I think they're in round 36,591 right now.Wait, the Cardinals just made their pick. Now they're in the 36,592nd.

 

[netnalp]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

 

[SSOG]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

Cool, thanks.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

I thought that except for a couple throws, Russell looked horrible. He looks horrible just standing there. The guy is only 24 and already has a weight problem.But McFadden and Bush both looked great. So did Murphy. I think Chaz should return in 2-3 weeks.

 

[az_prof]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

I thought that except for a couple throws, Russell looked horrible. He looks horrible just standing there. The guy is only 24 and already has a weight problem.But McFadden and Bush both looked great. So did Murphy. I think Chaz should return in 2-3 weeks.

This is what I saw too. If Russell was a rookie I might think, yeah, he did ok. But considering this is his third year I am not impressed.

 

[lyon812]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

I thought that except for a couple throws, Russell looked horrible. He looks horrible just standing there. The guy is only 24 and already has a weight problem.But McFadden and Bush both looked great. So did Murphy. I think Chaz should return in 2-3 weeks.

Russell looked best when he was throwing blocks for his RB. Seriously though, as commented on during the game thread, it's hard to know when to blame Russell and when to blame the rookie WRs. I think it's a poor decision not to have an Engram type out there that Russell can rely on, and that can make up for the lack of experience. It's hard for Russell to develop in a void.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

I thought that except for a couple throws, Russell looked horrible. He looks horrible just standing there. The guy is only 24 and already has a weight problem.But McFadden and Bush both looked great. So did Murphy. I think Chaz should return in 2-3 weeks.

Agree and disagree with you. Disagree that Russell looked horrible. He is horribly inconsistent, yes, but I think his performance was also hindered by rookie WRs -- there was just no synch in their timing, and I think that attributes to the lack of accuracy we saw in that game.No question about the weight problem -- at least, he is a QB that looks more out of shape than he should be. His commitment was questioned in OTAs and camp, and although he bucked down, he still clearly could have better conditioning.However, he did look poised in the pocket, and his O-line gave him time to throw the ball. And no question he has a strong arm, and his physical size is going to help him avoid getting armtackled by pass rushers like some QBsJaMarcus isn't going to be a field marshal like Brady or be able to call out intricate audibles and shifts at the line like Peyton Manning. I think he can be a good game manager, however, and if the Raider's running game stays at the level we saw in Wk 1, it makes it that much easier for him to make simple reads and check-downs.Adding to this will be having a receiver back like Schilens, who had great rapport with JaMarcus in the preseason. With Schilens back, JaMarcus gets a quick and sizeable WR he can rely upon for primary routes -- throw in Zach Miller and perhaps McFadden in the flats and you have a game that JaMarcus can ably manage, without having to become the next coming of Joe Montana.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I've been harsh about the Raiders, but the Chargers game impressed me. I liked what I saw from Russell, Miller, McFadden and the WRs. I see the Raiders as a team with young guys with upside in most positions.

What did you see from Russell that you liked? For that matter, what did you see from any WR other than Murphy that you liked?

I liked the throws he was making and felt his accuracy was better than I thought it was. Miller, Murphy, McFadden are young and the offense seemed to perform better tahn I had expected it would with such a young group. DHB didn't do anything however.

I thought that except for a couple throws, Russell looked horrible. He looks horrible just standing there. The guy is only 24 and already has a weight problem.But McFadden and Bush both looked great. So did Murphy. I think Chaz should return in 2-3 weeks.

Agree and disagree with you. Disagree that Russell looked horrible. He is horribly inconsistent, yes, but I think his performance was also hindered by rookie WRs -- there was just no synch in their timing, and I think that attributes to the lack of accuracy we saw in that game.No question about the weight problem -- at least, he is a QB that looks more out of shape than he should be. His commitment was questioned in OTAs and camp, and although he bucked down, he still clearly could have better conditioning.However, he did look poised in the pocket, and his O-line gave him time to throw the ball. And no question he has a strong arm, and his physical size is going to help him avoid getting armtackled by pass rushers like some QBsJaMarcus isn't going to be a field marshal like Brady or be able to call out intricate audibles and shifts at the line like Peyton Manning. I think he can be a good game manager, however, and if the Raider's running game stays at the level we saw in Wk 1, it makes it that much easier for him to make simple reads and check-downs.Adding to this will be having a receiver back like Schilens, who had great rapport with JaMarcus in the preseason. With Schilens back, JaMarcus gets a quick and sizeable WR he can rely upon for primary routes -- throw in Zach Miller and perhaps McFadden in the flats and you have a game that JaMarcus can ably manage, without having to become the next coming of Joe Montana.

Well since this is turning intor a JaMarcus thread,Agree totally about his inconsistency. But he still does not look poised. He rolls to the receiver and still locks in him. Can't make the accurate throw to the flat, or outside the hashmark. When he is off, he is embarassingly off, like 5 yeards off. Needs to learn to pump fake like Big Ben Ben Roethlisberger. Has weight issues. I know, it is inexcusable for a third year QB.But on the positive side, that was a beautiful 57 yard pitch and catch to Murphy on 4th and 15, although it looked wide open, he hit in stride and it looked easier than it was. I guarantee you that a lot of noodle arm game manager's like Jeff Garcia don't trust their arm to make that throw. Theirethrows are just blind heaves in desparation. JaMarcus can hit the long throw with accuracy.He also led his team to a late 4th Q lead despite a key drop from his rookie WR in the end zone, and key break of pattern by the same WR on the first INT. He led them to this lead despite his high first round pick WR becoming only a decoy with 2 drops, one right in his mitts. He left the field with 2:30 or so left in the game and a 3 point lead, and never came back on the field. If it were Brady or Manning, would you still be so critical? He is not responsible for the poor D at the end of the game. If he wins the game, there is no talk of him other than how he's really improving.Disagree with him being a "game manager". He will be either a big time playmaker at his position going forward, or will be a big time bust. There is no middle ground to his success. For now, he will rely on a great running game as his best friend. He appears locked in on Zach Miller for now. When Chaz comes back, you will see Chaz become the primary WR target and those two will get the lion share of targets moving forward.

 

[Traders2001]

What has schilens proven so far in his carreer , he is no sure thing .

Will he even be a starter when he comes back ( He was not a starter last season and got injured first week of training camp ) so it s not like he lost his job to injury.

I can see him cgallenge DHB but Murphy's job i dont think so ( The kid is the real thing ).

 

[Sabertooth]

Schilens is FBGs second favorite longshot behind Josh Morgan. He is a big bodied guy who is going to try to supplant a Number 7 overall pick and a guy who looked awesome last week in Murphy. I don't know if he can do that. From what Cable said, Schilens would supplant Murphy. However, if Louis Murphy puts up some numbers this week, I just don't see how they can pull him in favor of Schilens. Like the above post mentioned, Schilens did nothing last season and wasn't as entrenched as FBG would have you believe when he got hurt right away this preseason.

 

[Eradicator]

Like the above post mentioned, Schilens did nothing last season and wasn't as entrenched as FBG would have you believe when he got hurt right away this preseason.

Not sure where you're getting that from, but he most definitely was entrenched as the #1. Murphy caught a fluky 57yd TD on a 4th and 15 where the secondary broke down; this never should have happened. If it hadn't, the word would be how crappy the Raider WR's are (and they are). It looked like Russell was spraying balls all over the place on MNF; many likely due to miscommunications with rookie WR's. They need Schilen's steadying presence in a big way. Hopefully he comes back healthy enough to have an impact.

 

[Two Deep]

What has schilens proven so far in his carreer , he is no sure thing .

Will he even be a starter when he comes back ( He was not a starter last season and got injured first week of training camp ) so it s not like he lost his job to injury.

I can see him cgallenge DHB but Murphy's job i dont think so ( The kid is the real thing ).

Seriously? you've determined this after one game. You should look at your first sentnce before making the real thing comments. The kid had stone hands at Florida. I'm not advocating Schilens but somebody had to point out to you your over the top comment.

 

[Sabertooth]

Like the above post mentioned, Schilens did nothing last season and wasn't as entrenched as FBG would have you believe when he got hurt right away this preseason.

Not sure where you're getting that from, but he most definitely was entrenched as the #1. Murphy caught a fluky 57yd TD on a 4th and 15 where the secondary broke down; this never should have happened. If it hadn't, the word would be how crappy the Raider WR's are (and they are). It looked like Russell was spraying balls all over the place on MNF; many likely due to miscommunications with rookie WR's. They need Schilen's steadying presence in a big way. Hopefully he comes back healthy enough to have an impact.

I meant entrenched in terms of player like Donald Driver, Antonio Bryant, Anthony Gonzalez, Nate Burleson, Desean Jackson, or other players that aren't starts but aren't in danger of losing their jobs if somebody on the team shows a flash or two. How is Schilens a steadying presence? He hasn't proven that he's anything at all.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Like the above post mentioned, Schilens did nothing last season and wasn't as entrenched as FBG would have you believe when he got hurt right away this preseason.

Not sure where you're getting that from, but he most definitely was entrenched as the #1. Murphy caught a fluky 57yd TD on a 4th and 15 where the secondary broke down; this never should have happened. If it hadn't, the word would be how crappy the Raider WR's are (and they are). It looked like Russell was spraying balls all over the place on MNF; many likely due to miscommunications with rookie WR's. They need Schilen's steadying presence in a big way. Hopefully he comes back healthy enough to have an impact.

I meant entrenched in terms of player like Donald Driver, Antonio Bryant, Anthony Gonzalez, Nate Burleson, Desean Jackson, or other players that aren't starts but aren't in danger of losing their jobs if somebody on the team shows a flash or two. How is Schilens a steadying presence? He hasn't proven that he's anything at all.

Well, nobody else on the team is a steadying presence. Jamarcus seems unable to consistently throw the ball to anyone other than the TE. He didn't have any trouble getting the ball accurately to Schilens in the preseason. If you put all those pieces together....

 

[jdraiders]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

That was flipping hillarious!!!

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

my insight is to use the search function.

I just tried the search function and found the results as helpful as your response.

That was flipping hillarious!!!

You are a genius.

 

[lyon812]

He is a big bodied guy who is going to try to supplant a Number 7 overall pick

Rather, he's a fast, strong, dynamic receiver with good hands that ended 2008 strong, shone in camp, and was obviously the #1 per coaches and beat writers, who is going to try and supplant a #7 overall pick who has a severe problem with drops (including 3-4 Monday), and considers that a solid game.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

There is a reason that Chaz Shilens lasted to the seventh round. He is a physical freak of nature at his size 6'4" and runs a 4.4. But....there are injury issues that were red flags all through college. He has a world of talent, but he runs too fast for his frame to take the punishment. His bones can't handle the extreme torque he is able to do with all his great athletisism.

I don't think I've ever heard that diagnosis before. Is there a medical term for that?

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.

But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?

I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

 

[-jb-]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

I drafted Schilens in two leagues with my last pick. After seeing Russell the last few weeks, I think Chaz is worthless. Sad, but true. I really can't remember I've seen a QB look that bad.

 

[Black]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

I drafted Schilens in two leagues with my last pick. After seeing Russell the last few weeks, I think Chaz is worthless. Sad, but true. I really can't remember I've seen a QB look that bad.

I am needing to clear a spot in a Dynasty league and wondering about Chaz. He's under a 4-year contract with OAK.7/17/2008: Signed a four-year, $1.755 million contract.

 

[menobrown]

I am needing to clear a spot in a Dynasty league and wondering about Chaz. He's under a 4-year contract with OAK.7/17/2008: Signed a four-year, $1.755 million contract.

This year it could take several more weeks for him to get fully healthy and he'll still have to deal with Jamarcus. In a dynasty league I think he's a tremendous grab and I'd get him quickly. Fully healthy with a real NFL QB and he's going to produce big time.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

I drafted Schilens in two leagues with my last pick. After seeing Russell the last few weeks, I think Chaz is worthless. Sad, but true. I really can't remember I've seen a QB look that bad.

Paging Byron Leftwich...

 

[Wadsworth]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

I drafted Schilens in two leagues with my last pick. After seeing Russell the last few weeks, I think Chaz is worthless. Sad, but true. I really can't remember I've seen a QB look that bad.

Paging Byron Leftwich...

Paging almost any decent QB. The team really isn't that bad and with even a marginal QB could win a handful of games.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I am serious and not trying to make a wise crack.But can Chaz be playable with Jamarcus at qb?I only say that cause they arent a good passing O.

I drafted Schilens in two leagues with my last pick. After seeing Russell the last few weeks, I think Chaz is worthless. Sad, but true. I really can't remember I've seen a QB look that bad.

Paging Byron Leftwich...

Paging almost any decent QB. The team really isn't that bad and with even a marginal QB could win a handful of games.

I messed the post up...I meant to insinuate that Lefty might be as bad...27 yds this past weekend thru the air.

 

[Ripleys]

I think CBS said he practiced today. Can anyone confirm?