Chester Taylor in Minnesota (1 Viewer)

[Mcnabbfan]

Talk on Sirius Radio is the Vikings will not let Chester Taylor leave town without a contract. If he does sign with Minnesota, what would his value be? Would he be a similar to Westbrook in Childresses offense?

 

[LHUCKS]

Talk on Sirius Radio is the Vikings will not let Chester Taylor leave town without a contract. If he does sign with Minnesota, what would his value be? Would he be a similar to Westbrook in Childresses offense?

Hard to tell how that would shake out as both RBs have performed when given the opportuntiy. I think you would probably see a RBBC until injury.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Assuming the RB's competing for time are M. Moore, C. Fason and C. Taylor, I could see Taylor being the featured runner, with touches stolen by Moore on 3rd downs and Fason near the goalline unless/until Taylor could wrest these carries away from the others. Moore strikes me as having plenty of talent to be a featured back, but it doesn't seem his body will allow him to ever reach this goal. Fason seems limited in what he can provide, but we haven't seen a lot of him yet so it may be too early to write him off. But if the Vikes sign Taylor (or M. Morris), I believe they will have been told the starting job is their's to lose and the contract details will reflect this.

 

[Tick]

Assuming the RB's competing for time are M. Moore, C. Fason and C. Taylor, I could see Taylor being the featured runner, with touches stolen by Moore on 3rd downs and Fason near the goalline unless/until Taylor could wrest these carries away from the others. Moore strikes me as having plenty of talent to be a featured back, but it doesn't seem his body will allow him to ever reach this goal. Fason seems limited in what he can provide, but we haven't seen a lot of him yet so it may be too early to write him off. But if the Vikes sign Taylor (or M. Morris), I believe they will have been told the starting job is their's to lose and the contract details will reflect this.

That looks like a good analysis to me.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Agree with Dave and Tick. good analysis. This is something that was planned from last year and it has always been advertised that Taylor would be featured back. Moore 3rd down back. Still to be seen is who gets goal line carries? Is O. Smith still in picture? How will Fason factor in?? Taylor may have better value then a RB has had in Minnisota in a long time if he gets goal line carries. That's a big if and personally I don;t see Taylor a rb 2 at this time but it's been years since I have seen a Minnisota RB a RB 1 OR 2. Taylor could be the first since Smith! But id rather have him a RB 3.

 

[Tick]

Agree with Dave and Tick. good analysis. This is something that was planned from last year and it has always been advertised that Taylor would be featured back. Moore 3rd down back. Still to be seen is who gets goal line carries? Is O. Smith still in picture? How will Fason factor in?? Taylor may have better value then a RB has had in Minnisota in a long time if he gets goal line carries. That's a big if and personally I don;t see Taylor a rb 2 at this time but it's been years since I have seen a Minnisota RB a RB 1 OR 2. Taylor could be the first since Smith! But id rather have him a RB 3.

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[Sigmund Bloom]

If this signing does happen, I think that's one less team that could take Maroney in the first, increasing the chances of him falling to Indy, or even the 2nd round.

 

[John 14:6]

Still to be seen is who gets goal line carries?

I have Taylor in a TD only keeper league so I'm going to have to follow this to see if I want to keep him or not. Fason was getting them last season, but that was with Tice. Is Taylor the kind of all-around RB that can carry the load anywhere on the field?

 

[datonn]

I actually would like to see Taylor in a "Westbrook" type of role in Minnesota. He would come a LOT cheaper than Edge, and if the Vikings could spend that extra money on the O-Line, LB and ???, it could be a v-e-r-y nice signing!

 

[Traders2001]

Listen if they like him enough to say they wont let him leave without a contract . To me it means they will make him the feature back .

If they needed RBBC or a tird down back they would not go after him.

Cause all they have on their roster are Moore ( 3rd down back only )

Fason ( short yardage back only ) so they do need a featured back ( no RBBC )

 

[MLBrandow]

Listen if they like him enough to say they wont let him leave without a contract . To me it means they will make him the feature back .

If they needed RBBC or a tird down back they would not go after him.

Cause all they have on their roster are Moore ( 3rd down back only )

Fason ( short yardage back only ) so they do need a featured back ( no RBBC )

 

[Hov34]

and Fason near the goalline

Why is Mike Tice still head coach?

 

[trader jake]

Listen if they like him enough to say they wont let him leave without a contract . To me it means they will make him the feature back .

If they needed RBBC or a tird down back they would not go after him.

Cause all they have on their roster are Moore ( 3rd down back only )

Fason ( short yardage back only ) so they do need a featured back ( no RBBC )

why is that a good posting? i respect his opinion but to dismiss a solid vet and a second year player as if they're 7th round rookie projects smells of "i'm a chester taylor" owner to mein philly childress didn't exactly give all the carries to any one player but taylor is going to go into minnesota and get 20+ carries a game? no way. just last season he didn't get much more than back-up work when jamal lewis was doing his best to fall forward at a paltry 3.4 clip

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues. I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot. He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year. I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

 

[Shermanator]

Didnt Baltimore resign Taylor last year?

 

[diesel7982]

Didnt Baltimore resign Taylor last year?

They matched a 1 yr $3mil dollar offer made to him by the Browns.

 

[diesel7982]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues. I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot. He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year. I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

 

[Shermanator]

Didnt Baltimore resign Taylor last year?

They matched a 1 yr $3mil dollar offer made to him by the Browns.

Ah,thanks for the update. Didnt realize it was a one year tender.

 

[Donnybrook]

I actually would like to see Taylor in a "Westbrook" type of role in Minnesota. He would come a LOT cheaper than Edge, and if the Vikings could spend that extra money on the O-Line, LB and ???, it could be a v-e-r-y nice signing!

I find the whole Vikings need a running back like Westbrook argument silly. If you go back two years, people on this board were saying the same things about Westbrook that they are saying about Moore now. He’s got talent but he is only a third down back and will never be a featured back. Ya da Ya da Ya daWhy pay C Taylor 3 mil per year, when they have Moore 6 times cheaper and just as capable IMO?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues. I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot. He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year. I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

And they've made it quite clear they think he's too small.

 

[datonn]

I actually would like to see Taylor in a "Westbrook" type of role in Minnesota. He would come a LOT cheaper than Edge, and if the Vikings could spend that extra money on the O-Line, LB and ???, it could be a v-e-r-y nice signing!

I find the whole Vikings need a running back like Westbrook argument silly. If you go back two years, people on this board were saying the same things about Westbrook that they are saying about Moore now. He’s got talent but he is only a third down back and will never be a featured back. Ya da Ya da Ya daWhy pay C Taylor 3 mil per year, when they have Moore 6 times cheaper and just as capable IMO?

Donnybrook,You're talking to the guy that was pimpin' Moore as the REAL S.O.D. on all the Minnesota chat boards right after they drafted him (and Burleson, for that matter). I think there are two issues related to Moore which are probably keeping him from filling a "Westbrook" role:

1. His blocking skills. Probably one of the main reasons he hasn't filled a feature-back role in the Vikings offense to date is the fact that his blocking skills haven't been anything to write home about. If you're gonna roll with a 38 year QB and a very young/inexperienced QB2/3 (assuming Daunte is not in the picture), then you're one blown blocking assignment away from a 4-12 season. I think the Vikings don't trust Moore to protect their QB.

2. His injury history. He's had a lot of nagging injuries. Some will (and should) say that Moore hasn't had a chance to show what he can REALLY do as a feature back, but other will say that his lack of being able to stay on the field makes him too risky to have as the centerpiece of the Vikings running game.

I love Moore! I think he has a ton of potential. The two items listed above, however, are why I think Tice (and now Childress?) haven't trusted him enough to give him such a prominent role in the offense. My

 

[diesel7982]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues.  I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot.  He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year.  I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

And they've made it quite clear they think he's too small.

Well, thats quite a jump in logic there. Where have they said Moore is "too small"? And who is "they"? None of the same coaches or front office people are still there.

Moore is not a great inside runner, and is very injury prone. This has nothing to to with his size, just his ability. Taylor is everything the Vikings are looking for...hes a very good runner both inside and out, and hasnt shown the same propensity to injury that Moore has.

By your rationalization, Brian Childress would also think Brian Westbrook is "too small", along with guys like Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, etc etc.

 

[H.K.]

Two questions:

1) Taylor was the Third Down back in Balt, so why would we assume that he gives way to Moore in similar situations with Minnesota?

2) What type of offense will Childress run and what kind of numbers could be expected of Taylor if he is the #1 RB for the Vikes?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues. I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot. He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year. I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

And they've made it quite clear they think he's too small.

Well, thats quite a jump in logic there. Where have they said Moore is "too small"? And who is "they"? None of the same coaches or front office people are still there.

Moore is not a great inside runner, and is very injury prone. This has nothing to to with his size, just his ability. Taylor is everything the Vikings are looking for...hes a very good runner both inside and out, and hasnt shown the same propensity to injury that Moore has.

By your rationalization, Brian Childress would also think Brian Westbrook is "too small", along with guys like Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, etc etc.

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

NFL.com - Michael Bennett

Position: RB Height: 5-9 Weight: 209

NFL.com - Onterrio Smith

Position: RB Height: 5-10 Weight: 214

NFL.com - Ciatrick Fason

Position: RB Height: 6-0 Weight: 207

The Vikings have been on this experiment for 5 years now, and with Taylor they're just headed down the same path. Chester may look like a better inside runner, but we've heard that about the guy coming in for years now, yet here we are in year #5 talking about them bringing in the same type of runner they have every year in the meantime...a similarly sized somewhat smallish RB with no history of carrying the load, and every year those guys are struggling to carry the load for them.

I don't get why they don't just pony up and grab a guy that's carried the load already. Taylor's never had more than 4 starts or 160 carries in a season and hasn't exactly been the perfect picture of health despite that.

I guess they're going for the laws of statistics approach. If they keep bringing in guys that are the same size and haven't exactly shown themselves to be able to carry the load, they've got to hit it big on one of them eventually right? I guess they just thought it would take less than a decade to find that one...

 

[Donnybrook]

I actually would like to see Taylor in a "Westbrook" type of role in Minnesota.  He would come a LOT cheaper than Edge, and if the Vikings could spend that extra money on the O-Line, LB and ???, it could be a v-e-r-y nice signing! 

I find the whole Vikings need a running back like Westbrook argument silly. If you go back two years, people on this board were saying the same things about Westbrook that they are saying about Moore now. He’s got talent but he is only a third down back and will never be a featured back. Ya da Ya da Ya daWhy pay C Taylor 3 mil per year, when they have Moore 6 times cheaper and just as capable IMO?

Donnybrook,You're talking to the guy that was pimpin' Moore as the REAL S.O.D. on all the Minnesota chat boards right after they drafted him (and Burleson, for that matter). I think there are two issues related to Moore which are probably keeping him from filling a "Westbrook" role:

1. His blocking skills. Probably one of the main reasons he hasn't filled a feature-back role in the Vikings offense to date is the fact that his blocking skills haven't been anything to write home about. If you're gonna roll with a 38 year QB and a very young/inexperienced QB2/3 (assuming Daunte is not in the picture), then you're one blown blocking assignment away from a 4-12 season. I think the Vikings don't trust Moore to protect their QB.

2. His injury history. He's had a lot of nagging injuries. Some will (and should) say that Moore hasn't had a chance to show what he can REALLY do as a feature back, but other will say that his lack of being able to stay on the field makes him too risky to have as the centerpiece of the Vikings running game.

I love Moore! I think he has a ton of potential. The two items listed above, however, are why I think Tice (and now Childress?) haven't trusted him enough to give him such a prominent role in the offense. My

Fair enough.

 

[Vikes Fan]

Listen if they like him enough to say they wont let him leave without a contract . To me it means they will make him the feature back .

If they needed RBBC or a tird down back they would not go after him.

Cause all they have on their roster are Moore ( 3rd down back only )

Fason ( short yardage back only ) so they do need a featured back ( no RBBC )

why is that a good posting? i respect his opinion but to dismiss a solid vet and a second year player as if they're 7th round rookie projects smells of "i'm a chester taylor" owner to mein philly childress didn't exactly give all the carries to any one player but taylor is going to go into minnesota and get 20+ carries a game? no way. just last season he didn't get much more than back-up work when jamal lewis was doing his best to fall forward at a paltry 3.4 clip

You are right because Reid called the plays. We really don't know how Childress is going to call plays or substitute. He has told the local media that he would like a 20+ carry back.

 

[Traders2001]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues.  I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot.  He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year.  I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

And they've made it quite clear they think he's too small.

Well, thats quite a jump in logic there. Where have they said Moore is "too small"? And who is "they"? None of the same coaches or front office people are still there.

Moore is not a great inside runner, and is very injury prone. This has nothing to to with his size, just his ability. Taylor is everything the Vikings are looking for...hes a very good runner both inside and out, and hasnt shown the same propensity to injury that Moore has.

By your rationalization, Brian Childress would also think Brian Westbrook is "too small", along with guys like Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, etc etc.

Moore might be 5 11 205 but he plays small , while Taylor at 213 plays like a 225 pound RB with skills.

 

[nygiants56]

if it happens, its good news for Droughns owners, since the Browns won't be after Taylor anymore..losing him to the Ravens after he signed the offer sheet last year, had me scared that THIS year, he'd come to Cleveland and it would become a full blown RBBC.

Droughns' stock keeps rising..

 

[bumpman]

Running back Chester Taylor's visit with the Minnesota Vikings isn't set to begin until later this afternoon after delays from his flight through Chicago.

Taylor is believed to have declined a five-year, $17 million contract proposal from the Ravens, who have also offered a contract to Jamal Lewis.

http://ravens.scout.com/2/507707.html

 

[datonn]

FWIW, the Vikings radio announcer (Paul Allen, KFAN 1130am) said Taylor arrived in MSP at 4:30pm central time, and will be meeting with the Vikings brass over the next several hours.

Paul Allen:

chester taylor arrived at the facility around 4:30 and will meet the media tonite at winter park.

recap: longwell signed, leber and taylor are here but nothing has been done.

should be interesting tonite.

Linkey

 

[SSOG]

I'm loving it if Taylor signs with Minnesota. I'm playing in a keeper league with a guy who is convinced that Minnesota is going to have a stud RB one of these seasons (ever since they were #1 in the league in rushing back in... 2002, maybe?). Anyway, I've traded him, at one time or another, Michael Bennett, Onterrio Smith, and Mewelde Moore. And guess who owns Chester Taylor.

 

[ratpfink]

Longwell, Taylor and Leber all signed.

 

[ratpfink]

I think if Taylor ends up in Minn he is going to end up way overvalued in FF leagues. I imagine he would end up a late 2nd/early 3rd round and there's no way I would touch him at that spot. He seems to fit into a similar mold to the new RB Minny seems to bring in every year. I have no idea why they continue to bring in these little scat-backs and then complain that they don't have anyone that can carry the load every year.

NFL.com - Chester TaylorPosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 213

NFL.com - Mewelde MoorePosition: RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 209

And they've made it quite clear they think he's too small.

Well, thats quite a jump in logic there. Where have they said Moore is "too small"? And who is "they"? None of the same coaches or front office people are still there.

Moore is not a great inside runner, and is very injury prone. This has nothing to to with his size, just his ability. Taylor is everything the Vikings are looking for...hes a very good runner both inside and out, and hasnt shown the same propensity to injury that Moore has.

By your rationalization, Brian Childress would also think Brian Westbrook is "too small", along with guys like Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, etc etc.

Moore might be 5 11 205 but he plays small , while Taylor at 213 plays like a 225 pound RB with skills.

Well, with this logic Ron Dayne is a scat back too.