Chicago Bears, 39 wins (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

Yes.

Remember, teams that win the Super Bowls were not necessarily the best teams for the whole season. They were just either the best of the playoff teams in January or the best team on Super Bowl Sunday.

Does anyone really think that for the entire '07 season and postseason, the Giants were better than the Patriots? Of course not. But they were better for one day last winter.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Yes. Remember, teams that win the Super Bowls were not necessarily the best teams for the whole season. They were just either the best of the playoff teams in January or the best team on Super Bowl Sunday. Does anyone really think that for the entire '07 season and postseason, the Giants were better than the Patriots? Of course not. But they were better for one day last winter.

Wow.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Oh, so you think that the team that wins the Super Bowl is always the best for the entire season? Okay, then.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Oh, so you think that the team that wins the Super Bowl is always the best for the entire season? Okay, then.

Did I say that? No, I didn't. Seahawks were the best team. Feel better?I simply asked if you thought the Bears were better than the Patriots and Giants' SB teams. You said "yes". I said "Wow". You then put words in my mouth, saying something about me thinking that the best team for the entire season always wins and stuff...which I've never even come close to saying. WTF is that dude?

Regardless, I can't believe you think the Bears would have beat those teams. Also, this thread sucks.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seahawks have 4 playoff wins over that period, not three.

The Seahawks SB team was much better than the Bears one.

Based on what?The Bears beat the same Seahawk team the next year.

Well the Seahawks were a 1st down away from winning that game in Chicago and everyone knows the Seahawks aren't that great away from home. They would have beat Chicago easily in Seattle IMO.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I simply asked if you thought the Bears were better than the Patriots and Giants' SB teams. You said "yes". I said "Wow". You then put words in my mouth, saying something about me thinking that the best team for the entire season always wins and stuff...which I've never even come close to saying. WTF is that dude?

You quoted my entire post, so how was I supposed to know what you were reacting to? I assumed your were wowed by everything I said, which is why I inferred what your opinion is, rather than putting your words in your mouth. Pretty simple, if you ask me.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Seahawks have 4 playoff wins over that period, not three.

The Seahawks SB team was much better than the Bears one.

Based on what?The Bears beat the same Seahawk team the next year.

Well the Seahawks were a 1st down away from winning that game in Chicago and everyone knows the Seahawks aren't that great away from home. They would have beat Chicago easily in Seattle IMO.

Seattle was a better team, but you know where that'll get us in here...

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

As a Bears fan number of wins over the past X doesn't mean squat. There's only one win that matters and we haven't seen that since my avatar. The year the Bears faced the Colts was a brutal year for me. They had a great defense, a coin-flip every game for Good Rex/Bad Rex, and a record setting return game. They pretty much tore through weak NFC competition to make it to the superbowl. As each win stacked up and they drew closer to the big game I was torn, I hoped they had what it takes to win a superbowl but I knew they could be beaten by any team any sunday.As we all know Indy outcoached and embarassed them exposing their flaws. That is what happens when an over-rated coach leads his over-rated team against a better prepared and fundamentally more sound opponent. The Bears won the whole season because they were a pretty good team who got all the breaks they needed. Unfortunately it ended 1 game too soon.I like Lovie, he seems like a upstanding coach who demands respect from his players. Unfortunately I don't see him making genious personnel moves or getting the most out of his teams. I get the feeling that Bear's teams under him typical perform worse than their talent level. Their inconsistency is maddening, and I can't help but think that's a coaching problem. I'm not saying I think Lovie should go as there are many worse coaches out there, but I don't think he's anything more than a slightly above average NFL head coach.

Far and away the most cognizant, well-written post from a Bears fan in here. Excellent.

Again, this is the most accurate viewpoint I've read in here. Bears have a great fan, in Statcruncher. The irony in the name is only fitting.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Seattle was certainly not the same team in '06 that they were in '05, simply because Shaun Alexander wasn't nearly the player in '06 than he was in his MVP-winning '05 season. That alone made a huge difference.

 

[flapgreen]

As a Bears fan number of wins over the past X doesn't mean squat. There's only one win that matters and we haven't seen that since my avatar. The year the Bears faced the Colts was a brutal year for me. They had a great defense, a coin-flip every game for Good Rex/Bad Rex, and a record setting return game. They pretty much tore through weak NFC competition to make it to the superbowl. As each win stacked up and they drew closer to the big game I was torn, I hoped they had what it takes to win a superbowl but I knew they could be beaten by any team any sunday.As we all know Indy outcoached and embarassed them exposing their flaws. That is what happens when an over-rated coach leads his over-rated team against a better prepared and fundamentally more sound opponent. The Bears won the whole season because they were a pretty good team who got all the breaks they needed. Unfortunately it ended 1 game too soon.I like Lovie, he seems like a upstanding coach who demands respect from his players. Unfortunately I don't see him making genious personnel moves or getting the most out of his teams. I get the feeling that Bear's teams under him typical perform worse than their talent level. Their inconsistency is maddening, and I can't help but think that's a coaching problem. I'm not saying I think Lovie should go as there are many worse coaches out there, but I don't think he's anything more than a slightly above average NFL head coach.

Far and away the most cognizant, well-written post from a Bears fan in here. Excellent.

Again, this is the most accurate viewpoint I've read in here. Bears have a great fan, in Statcruncher. The irony in the name is only fitting.

Now you're responding to your own posts. Stop...

 

[RBM]

Seahawks have 4 playoff wins over that period, not three.

The Seahawks SB team was much better than the Bears one.

Based on what?The Bears beat the same Seahawk team the next year.

Well the Seahawks were a 1st down away from winning that game in Chicago and everyone knows the Seahawks aren't that great away from home. They would have beat Chicago easily in Seattle IMO.

Oh I agree. That Seahawk team was very good, and it was a great game. But the Bears did beat them

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

As a Bears fan number of wins over the past X doesn't mean squat. There's only one win that matters and we haven't seen that since my avatar. The year the Bears faced the Colts was a brutal year for me. They had a great defense, a coin-flip every game for Good Rex/Bad Rex, and a record setting return game. They pretty much tore through weak NFC competition to make it to the superbowl. As each win stacked up and they drew closer to the big game I was torn, I hoped they had what it takes to win a superbowl but I knew they could be beaten by any team any sunday.

As we all know Indy outcoached and embarassed them exposing their flaws. That is what happens when an over-rated coach leads his over-rated team against a better prepared and fundamentally more sound opponent. The Bears won the whole season because they were a pretty good team who got all the breaks they needed. Unfortunately it ended 1 game too soon.

I like Lovie, he seems like a upstanding coach who demands respect from his players. Unfortunately I don't see him making genious personnel moves or getting the most out of his teams. I get the feeling that Bear's teams under him typical perform worse than their talent level. Their inconsistency is maddening, and I can't help but think that's a coaching problem. I'm not saying I think Lovie should go as there are many worse coaches out there, but I don't think he's anything more than a slightly above average NFL head coach.

Far and away the most cognizant, well-written post from a Bears fan in here. Excellent.

Again, this is the most accurate viewpoint I've read in here. Bears have a great fan, in Statcruncher. The irony in the name is only fitting.

Now you're responding to your own posts. Stop...

But, but they only lost by 12 in the Superbowl everybody! That's pretty good! And Lovie's first year shouldn't count! Let's not count it. So they've done a nice job everybody, overall; I just want you all to know that. Yippee!You deserve some candy.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Also, this thread sucks.

Sure, when you get your ### handed to you by facts and data, now this thread sucks.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Also, this thread sucks.

Sure, when you get your ### handed to you by facts and data, now this thread sucks.

Name it. I'm waiting. No way you read the entire thread; did you "Sweetness_34"? "Facts and data"...please.

Look, the whole point the writer is trying to make is that you fans should be happy with the results. Really? You're seriously content with where the Bears are at right now? And I love how he conveniently leaves Lovie's 5 - 11 record off his "study" (and I say that laughingly) to get Bears fans all warm and fuzzy. What's more, is it's taken from some hack from a Bears website -- as if that's not proof enough of the article's intent and bias.

My point is simple. The "article" is rubbish, and a weak effort to make the Bears organization (and Lovie) look like they've accomplished more than they really have.

The irony in all this, is the fact you are going nowhere this year. Again. How's that for a fact? So, go don your Payton jersey and enjoy your Superbowl on Monday night. Ho-hum...

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Another somewhat respectable season. Congrats.

 

[flapgreen]

Another somewhat respectable season. Congrats.

another objective and thought out response. congrats.

 

[boubucarow]

Another somewhat respectable season. Congrats.

another objective and thought out response. congrats.

Why is there always one of these guys?Can't we Bear fans just be able to enjoy whatever success the team has had instead of always having to defend the wins they have already won.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Another somewhat respectable season. Congrats.

another objective and thought out response. congrats.

Why is there always one of these guys?Can't we Bear fans just be able to enjoy whatever success the team has had instead of always having to defend the wins they have already won.

Are you serious? Enjoy whatever you're trying to enjoy, but this is a message board, so starting a thread about how successful you've been, which in turn, fetches dissenting opinion(s), shouldn't upset you. Are you happy with where the Bears are/have been at?

 

[JAA]

eagles where?

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

eagles where?

eagles what?

 

[DropKick]

The entire conference was somewhat weak with respect to the AFC in that time span. That may have shifted more now. The win total not a complete surprise given the stout defense.

 

[boubucarow]

Another somewhat respectable season. Congrats.

another objective and thought out response. congrats.

Why is there always one of these guys?Can't we Bear fans just be able to enjoy whatever success the team has had instead of always having to defend the wins they have already won.

Are you serious? Enjoy whatever you're trying to enjoy, but this is a message board, so starting a thread about how successful you've been, which in turn, fetches dissenting opinion(s), shouldn't upset you. Are you happy with where the Bears are/have been at?

The team has been as successful has it has been and the original post was clearly stating that Bears fans should have enjoyed the last few years more than we probably did. Your dissenting opinion was unneeded as no one had stated the Bears were the best team in the NFC during the time period, were a great super bowl team, or didn't play in a weak conference during the super bowl year before you decided to bring up counterpoints to such statements.Then you state that the 01 Pats or the 07 Giants were obviously better teams than the 06 Bears when both of those teams were average regular season teams while the Bears were an above average regular season team by all accounts. Yes, they won the super bowl which means an infinitely better season for them but it does not mean they were better overall teams. As for my appreciation of the Bears, they have been frustrating at times but also have provided for some amazing moments the last few years. I have been pulled into almost every game and that is really all I can ask for as a fan. But could they have done a better job to challenge for championships? Yes.

 

[flapgreen]

Welcome Marinelli. We definitely need some D-line help