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I think it's all relative though. When an OL or DL is stud lock of a pick they go in the top 5.

This draft doesn't have that on the offensive side of the ball. A non stud OT picked after the top 5-8 players don't have the greatest of track records either. They are very boom or bust in that range. I'm not sure the top 2-3 OL taken are going to be better than the next half dozen.

RB drop off is noticable and I think Bijan is a safer pick in a way.

This team has so many holes still, I don't think they take a RB in Rd 1 or 2. Maybe third if there is some value.

Gotta go DL at 9.
 
I think it's all relative though. When an OL or DL is stud lock of a pick they go in the top 5.

This draft doesn't have that on the offensive side of the ball. A non stud OT picked after the top 5-8 players don't have the greatest of track records either. They are very boom or bust in that range. I'm not sure the top 2-3 OL taken are going to be better than the next half dozen.

RB drop off is noticable and I think Bijan is a safer pick in a way.

This team has so many holes still, I don't think they take a RB in Rd 1 or 2. Maybe third if there is some value.

Gotta go DL at 9.
Agreed. I'll take it a step further and say we need to go DT at 9...or trade down into the late teens low twenties, get another 2nd and go BPA.
 
Hoping they aren't done at backup QB. PJ Walker is awful, I'd have much rather added a Mariota type. Only thing Walker brings to the table is experience throwing to Moore.
 
I've been seething about FA all night and now I'm getting hit by the Eagles fans at work now.
To be blunt, the Bears make me sick right now. They have almost twice as much cap space as the next highest team, yet they came up with little in free agency. Love the LBs, but the biggest needs on both sides of the ball were the lines. There wasn't much available at D-line, so I give them a pass there. O-line talent was there and they botched it. Fields is going to running for his life again.
Poles keeps saying he doesn't want to overspend. Guess what, you're the GM of a loser team, you're going to have to overpay to get premium players in so you can eventually erase that stigma.
Look at a team like Philly. Players buy into the system. Players like the team culture .Players like that they win. We have none of that. Right now the ONLY reason to come to Chicago is $$$.
 
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I've been seething about FA all night and now I'm getting hit by the Eagles fans at work now.
To be blunt, the Bears make me sick right now. They have almost twice as much cap space as the next highest team, yet they came up with little in free agency. Love the LBs, but the biggest needs on both sides of the ball were the lines. There wasn't much available at D-line, so I give them a pass there. O-line talent was there and they botched it. Fields is going to running for his life again.
Poles keeps saying he doesn't want to overspend. Guess what, you're the GM of a loser team, you're going to have to overpay to get premium players in so you can eventually erase that stigma.
Look at a team like Philly. Players buy into the system. Players like the team culture .Players like that they win. We have none of that. Right now the ONLY reason to come to Chicago is $$$.
100%. Losers HAVE TO overspend to get good players.
 
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I've been seething about FA all night and now I'm getting hit by the Eagles fans at work now.
To be blunt, the Bears make me sick right now. They have almost twice as much cap space as the next highest team, yet they came up with little in free agency. Love the LBs, but the biggest needs on both sides of the ball were the lines. There wasn't much available at D-line, so I give them a pass there. O-line talent was there and they botched it. Fields is going to running for his life again.
Poles keeps saying he doesn't want to overspend. Guess what, you're the GM of a loser team, you're going to have to overpay to get premium players in so you can eventually erase that stigma.
Look at a team like Philly. Players buy into the system. Players like the team culture .Players like that they win. We have none of that. Right now the ONLY reason to come to Chicago is $$$.
100%. Losers HAVE TO overspend to get good players.
Look at it from Orlando Brown's perspective: Cincinnati and Chicago offers you 60 million. No brainer where you go. Heck, Chicago would have to offer 5 million more for me to consider them.
 
I'm really hoping Eberflus' system is the real deal here. Signing some lesser names who fit the system better is one way to maximize cap space. Any help on the DL is a step in the right direction.

Word has now come out that OT Brown wasn't a good fit for what the Bears are trying to do. They wanted an OT who moves well in space and that was a big knock against Brown. He doesn't do that. This also lends a peak into who they might like in the draft.
 
I'm really hoping Eberflus' system is the real deal here. Signing some lesser names who fit the system better is one way to maximize cap space. Any help on the DL is a step in the right direction.

Word has now come out that OT Brown wasn't a good fit for what the Bears are trying to do. They wanted an OT who moves well in space and that was a big knock against Brown. He doesn't do that. This also lends a peak into who they might like in the draft.
Greg Olsen wasn't a good fit for what we were trying to do so we signed Brandon Manumaluena.
 
I'm really hoping Eberflus' system is the real deal here. Signing some lesser names who fit the system better is one way to maximize cap space. Any help on the DL is a step in the right direction.

Word has now come out that OT Brown wasn't a good fit for what the Bears are trying to do. They wanted an OT who moves well in space and that was a big knock against Brown. He doesn't do that. This also lends a peak into who they might like in the draft.
Greg Olsen wasn't a good fit for what we were trying to do so we signed Brandon Manumaluena.
Revisionist history about Olsen. We had no chance of resigning that guy, so they traded him. We had Briggs and a few other guys up for contracts and we were cap strapped. In hindsight, we should have let Briggs walk and kept Olsen. But it doesn’t work that way.
 
I'm really hoping Eberflus' system is the real deal here. Signing some lesser names who fit the system better is one way to maximize cap space. Any help on the DL is a step in the right direction.

Word has now come out that OT Brown wasn't a good fit for what the Bears are trying to do. They wanted an OT who moves well in space and that was a big knock against Brown. He doesn't do that. This also lends a peak into who they might like in the draft.
Greg Olsen wasn't a good fit for what we were trying to do so we signed Brandon Manumaluena.
Revisionist history about Olsen. We had no chance of resigning that guy, so they traded him. We had Briggs and a few other guys up for contracts and we were cap strapped. In hindsight, we should have let Briggs walk and kept Olsen. But it doesn’t work that way.
Completely false take. Martz was running the offense and wasn't using him. Even Angelo said it was a mistake doing it for that reason.
 
Bears signing Robert Tonyan, 1 year deal. I haven't seen an amount yet.

Here are the signings so far, ranked by my opinion of how good the player is (relative to other players at his position).

$18M/yr LB Tremaine Edmunds (4 years, $72M)
$6.5M/yr LB T.J. Edwards (3 years, $19.5M)
$10M/yr G Nate Davis (3 years, $30M)
$7M/yr DE/DT DeMarcus Walker (3 years, $21M)
$3.5M/yr DT/NT Andrew Billings (1 year, $3.5M)
?? TE Robert Tonyan (1 year)
$2.25M/yr RB/ST Travis Homer (2 years, up to $4.5M)
$2.5M/yr QB P.J. Walker (2 years, up to $5M)

Everyone from Billings up is a solid starter or better, IMO, and Edwards & Billings are the best deals for the money.
 
I'm really hoping Eberflus' system is the real deal here. Signing some lesser names who fit the system better is one way to maximize cap space. Any help on the DL is a step in the right direction.

Word has now come out that OT Brown wasn't a good fit for what the Bears are trying to do. They wanted an OT who moves well in space and that was a big knock against Brown. He doesn't do that. This also lends a peak into who they might like in the draft.
Greg Olsen wasn't a good fit for what we were trying to do so we signed Brandon Manumaluena.
Revisionist history about Olsen. We had no chance of resigning that guy, so they traded him. We had Briggs and a few other guys up for contracts and we were cap strapped. In hindsight, we should have let Briggs walk and kept Olsen. But it doesn’t work that way.
Completely false take. Martz was running the offense and wasn't using him. Even Angelo said it was a mistake doing it for that reason.
Not a false take at all, that’s just another reason why he wasn’t kept. A TE like him wasn’t really a thing 20 years ago.
 
QB1: Justin Fields
QB:2: ________Draft?
QB3: P.J. Walker

RB: Khalil Herbert
RB2: D’onta Foreman
RB3: ________Draft
RB4: Travis Homer


WR1: DJ Moore
WR2: Chase Claypool
WR3: Darnell Mooney
WR4: ________ Draft
WR5: E. St. Brown
WR6: Velus Jones

TE1: Cole Kmet
TE2: Robert Tonyan

I think middle to late round picks can fill those openings. DL and OL early and often.
 
D'onta Foreman. Not terrible. Probably will make a good pair with Herbert.
He was one of the dudes I thought might go there.

feels like a RBBC for sure. Herbert should get the Lion’s bear’s share of touches, but tough to say - Foreman looked pretty good at times last year.
Sucks fantasy -wise, but this smells like a straight up 50/50 split to me. Who knows if they end up signing or drafting a pass catcher for 3rd downs.
 
Foreman will definitely see a lot of carries but will be game flow dependent. Foreman is one of the best power runners in the game and has shown the unquestionable ability to carry a run game/offense in games with a positive script the past couple years.

I think it's robbery getting him for 1/$3m. Particularly for a team like the Bears.
 
D'onta Foreman. Not terrible. Probably will make a good pair with Herbert.
He was one of the dudes I thought might go there.

feels like a RBBC for sure. Herbert should get the Lion’s bear’s share of touches, but tough to say - Foreman looked pretty good at times last year.
Sucks fantasy -wise, but this smells like a straight up 50/50 split to me. Who knows if they end up signing or drafting a pass catcher for 3rd downs.
Can’t Homer do that?

Also, yeah - if Foreman becomes the GL back that’s gonna be ugly for Herbert shareholders.
 
QB1: Justin Fields
QB:2: ________Draft?
QB3: P.J. Walker

RB: Khalil Herbert
RB2: D’onta Foreman
RB3: ________Draft
RB4: Travis Homer


WR1: DJ Moore
WR2: Chase Claypool
WR3: Darnell Mooney
WR4: ________ Draft
WR5: E. St. Brown
WR6: Velus Jones

TE1: Cole Kmet
TE2: Robert Tonyan

I think middle to late round picks can fill those openings. DL and OL early and often.
4-5 win offense here.
 
QB1: Justin Fields
QB:2: ________Draft?
QB3: P.J. Walker

RB: Khalil Herbert
RB2: D’onta Foreman
RB3: ________Draft
RB4: Travis Homer


WR1: DJ Moore
WR2: Chase Claypool
WR3: Darnell Mooney
WR4: ________ Draft
WR5: E. St. Brown
WR6: Velus Jones

TE1: Cole Kmet
TE2: Robert Tonyan

I think middle to late round picks can fill those openings. DL and OL early and often.
4-5 win offense here.
A couple more OL to round out the line and hopefully add another RB via the draft. Fill that WR4 with a journeyman if they have to and I think its a well rounded Offense.

Needs some more DL help, but the D is already better than last year.

I think the Bears have at least 7 wins in them this year.
 
D'onta Foreman. Not terrible. Probably will make a good pair with Herbert.
He was one of the dudes I thought might go there.

feels like a RBBC for sure. Herbert should get the Lion’s bear’s share of touches, but tough to say - Foreman looked pretty good at times last year.
Sucks fantasy -wise, but this smells like a straight up 50/50 split to me. Who knows if they end up signing or drafting a pass catcher for 3rd downs.
Can’t Homer do that?

Also, yeah - if Foreman becomes the GL back that’s gonna be ugly for Herbert shareholders.
Herbert really isn’t a short-yardage runner anyway.
 
D'onta Foreman. Not terrible. Probably will make a good pair with Herbert.
He was one of the dudes I thought might go there.

feels like a RBBC for sure. Herbert should get the Lion’s bear’s share of touches, but tough to say - Foreman looked pretty good at times last year.
Sucks fantasy -wise, but this smells like a straight up 50/50 split to me. Who knows if they end up signing or drafting a pass catcher for 3rd downs.
Can’t Homer do that?

Also, yeah - if Foreman becomes the GL back that’s gonna be ugly for Herbert shareholders.
Honestly I don't know much about Homer and assumed that he was signed for 3rd string / special teams duties

I see the depth chart as follows:

Foreman
Herbert
Homer

I do see them taking a RB in the 6th or 7th this year to round out the room.
 
D'onta Foreman. Not terrible. Probably will make a good pair with Herbert.
He was one of the dudes I thought might go there.

feels like a RBBC for sure. Herbert should get the Lion’s bear’s share of touches, but tough to say - Foreman looked pretty good at times last year.
Sucks fantasy -wise, but this smells like a straight up 50/50 split to me. Who knows if they end up signing or drafting a pass catcher for 3rd downs.
Can’t Homer do that?

Also, yeah - if Foreman becomes the GL back that’s gonna be ugly for Herbert shareholders.
Honestly I don't know much about Homer and assumed that he was signed for 3rd string / special teams duties

I see the depth chart as follows:

Foreman
Herbert
Homer

I do see them taking a RB in the 6th or 7th this year to round out the room.
My shares of the Bears offense are Fields, Kmet, and Mooney - and all in 1 league. So I'm downright tickled that they haven't invested big at the RB position, tbh.

And Tonyan to block freeing up Kmet as the Move TE (I'm sure they'll both do some of each, but I project Kmet as the better receiver of the two) also doesn't hurt my stock too much.

So go RBBC!
:pickle:
 
Glad to see Whitehair is staying and moving back to C, which he was a borderline pro bowler at.

Love the Foreman signing. Personally, I'd rather have him then Montgomery even if they were the same price. Expect him and Herbert to be a 50-50 split. Homer likely plays special teams only.
 
Bengals OT Jonah Williams is asking for a Trade. Great talent, but has been hurt a lot. If Poles can get him for a late round pick, its worth the swing.
Possible problem there, is he asking for a trade because Brown's addition moves him from LT, or because he just wants a new deal? It seems like the Bears are pretty deadset on leaving Braxton Jones at LT.
 
Bengals OT Jonah Williams is asking for a Trade. Great talent, but has been hurt a lot. If Poles can get him for a late round pick, its worth the swing.
Possible problem there, is he asking for a trade because Brown's addition moves him from LT, or because he just wants a new deal? It seems like the Bears are pretty deadset on leaving Braxton Jones at LT.
He wants to play LT and get LT money next season. He can't do either in Cincinnati.

I don't get the same feeling that Jones is a lock for LT next season. He had a great year for a 5th round pick, but he still has to prove it wasn't a fluke.

If Jonah can't beat out Braxton, he needs to be at RT. Then let him walk in FA next season.

I don't think there is going to be a big market for a guy on the last year of his deal coming off an injury and making 13mil. Bears can eat that salary and give him a year to prove himself.

All of this assuming the Bengals even entertain his trade request. Sounds like they're more interested in freeing up cap space than what they get for him, if they are even willing.
 
While I don’t see Chicago going for Bijan, the more I consider it, the more I think it’s a potential landing spot for Gibbs.

3-way split on the carries, but Gibbs used more on outside runs, and gets all the receptions.

Less than ideal for FF, but a great fit for the Bears and gives Fields another dynamic weapon to throw to.
 
While I don’t see Chicago going for Bijan, the more I consider it, the more I think it’s a potential landing spot for Gibbs.

3-way split on the carries, but Gibbs used more on outside runs, and gets all the receptions.

Less than ideal for FF, but a great fit for the Bears and gives Fields another dynamic weapon to throw to.
I'd be shocked if the Bears took a RB before round 4. Maybe Achane makes it to the beginning of round 4? OT, DE, DT, CB are all much bigger needs and should be available with those picks.

In an ideal world, I'd like the draft to be:
10. Christian Gonzalez CB Oregon
53. Matthew Bergeron OT Syracuse
61. Isaiah Foskey DE Notre Dame
64. Siaki Ika DT Baylor
 
While I don’t see Chicago going for Bijan, the more I consider it, the more I think it’s a potential landing spot for Gibbs.

3-way split on the carries, but Gibbs used more on outside runs, and gets all the receptions.

Less than ideal for FF, but a great fit for the Bears and gives Fields another dynamic weapon to throw to.
I'd be shocked if the Bears took a RB before round 4. Maybe Achane makes it to the beginning of round 4? OT, DE, DT, CB are all much bigger needs and should be available with those picks.

In an ideal world, I'd like the draft to be:
10. Christian Gonzalez CB Oregon
53. Matthew Bergeron OT Syracuse
61. Isaiah Foskey DE Notre Dame
64. Siaki Ika DT Baylor
Not saying they will - just saying I think it’s a great fit if he’s there in the 2nd for them. That would be a very potent offense if they had an elite pass-catching back.
 
While I don’t see Chicago going for Bijan, the more I consider it, the more I think it’s a potential landing spot for Gibbs.

3-way split on the carries, but Gibbs used more on outside runs, and gets all the receptions.

Less than ideal for FF, but a great fit for the Bears and gives Fields another dynamic weapon to throw to.
I'd be shocked if the Bears took a RB before round 4. Maybe Achane makes it to the beginning of round 4? OT, DE, DT, CB are all much bigger needs and should be available with those picks.

In an ideal world, I'd like the draft to be:
10. Christian Gonzalez CB Oregon
53. Matthew Bergeron OT Syracuse
61. Isaiah Foskey DE Notre Dame
64. Siaki Ika DT Baylor
Not saying they will - just saying I think it’s a great fit if he’s there in the 2nd for them. That would be a very potent offense if they had an elite pass-catching back.
I don't know. I think Herbert can do that role just fine, and Fields is probably better off taking off with an extra blocker than checking it down most of the time. I think Poles etc. are more in the boat of RB being a very replaceable position, and that's why Foreman was signed on the cheap, instead of bringing back Montgomery.

I'm working on a post-combine/1st wave of FA mock draft, and to me the main teams that I think are looking at RB in the 1st 2 days are:
Arizona, If Conner hadn't signed a good-sized extension before last year, I think he may have been out this offseason.
Buffalo, James Cook seems like a RBBC guy in general, and it seems like they like Hines more for his ST work.
Dallas, as much as I liked Malik Davis in his limited work last year, I doubt they just roll with him behind Pollard.
Miami, I know they brought back Mostert and Wilson, but they fancy themselves contenders and both have had major trouble staying on the field.
Tampa Bay, I don't think White is trusted at all, and their actions suggest they aren't rebuilding, they are reloading.
With smaller chances of:
Cincinnati, seems like Mixon is in the clear, but I don't think they trust Evans/Williams as a #2.
Tennessee, Henry is probably in his last year, and they may take a shot on getting an heir apparent now.
Pittsburgh, I thought Jaylen Warren looked solid, but he's a UFA, and they seem to value RB more than most teams. They won't too early, but round 3?
Seattle, kinda similar to the Steelers, they won't want to be caught shorthanded if something happens to Walker, and they invest more than most. Another round 3 possibility.
Cleveland, its possible they like Jerome Ford enough to be the #2, but with Hunt/Johnson gone, I could see a round 3 investment.
 
While I don’t see Chicago going for Bijan, the more I consider it, the more I think it’s a potential landing spot for Gibbs.

3-way split on the carries, but Gibbs used more on outside runs, and gets all the receptions.

Less than ideal for FF, but a great fit for the Bears and gives Fields another dynamic weapon to throw to.
I'd be shocked if the Bears took a RB before round 4. Maybe Achane makes it to the beginning of round 4? OT, DE, DT, CB are all much bigger needs and should be available with those picks.

In an ideal world, I'd like the draft to be:
10. Christian Gonzalez CB Oregon
53. Matthew Bergeron OT Syracuse
61. Isaiah Foskey DE Notre Dame
64. Siaki Ika DT Baylor
Not saying they will - just saying I think it’s a great fit if he’s there in the 2nd for them. That would be a very potent offense if they had an elite pass-catching back.
I don't know. I think Herbert can do that role just fine, and Fields is probably better off taking off with an extra blocker than checking it down most of the time. I think Poles etc. are more in the boat of RB being a very replaceable position, and that's why Foreman was signed on the cheap, instead of bringing back Montgomery.

I'm working on a post-combine/1st wave of FA mock draft, and to me the main teams that I think are looking at RB in the 1st 2 days are:
Arizona, If Conner hadn't signed a good-sized extension before last year, I think he may have been out this offseason.
Buffalo, James Cook seems like a RBBC guy in general, and it seems like they like Hines more for his ST work.
Dallas, as much as I liked Malik Davis in his limited work last year, I doubt they just roll with him behind Pollard.
Miami, I know they brought back Mostert and Wilson, but they fancy themselves contenders and both have had major trouble staying on the field.
Tampa Bay, I don't think White is trusted at all, and their actions suggest they aren't rebuilding, they are reloading.
With smaller chances of:
Cincinnati, seems like Mixon is in the clear, but I don't think they trust Evans/Williams as a #2.
Tennessee, Henry is probably in his last year, and they may take a shot on getting an heir apparent now.
Pittsburgh, I thought Jaylen Warren looked solid, but he's a UFA, and they seem to value RB more than most teams. They won't too early, but round 3?
Seattle, kinda similar to the Steelers, they won't want to be caught shorthanded if something happens to Walker, and they invest more than most. Another round 3 possibility.
Cleveland, its possible they like Jerome Ford enough to be the #2, but with Hunt/Johnson gone, I could see a round 3 investment.

Gibbs is special. Herbert can’t do what he does
 
@menobrown - how you drafting Gibbs if he’s a Bear, and what do you think the chances are they take him?
As much as I can say a team has a zero percent change of drafting a player I would say zero. That makes no sense to me.
I’ve seen several mock drafts with the bears taking him in the 2nd.
A lot of info on the web/twitter, key is knowing what is nonsense and not worth your time.
 
@menobrown - how you drafting Gibbs if he’s a Bear, and what do you think the chances are they take him?
As much as I can say a team has a zero percent change of drafting a player I would say zero. That makes no sense to me.
I’ve seen several mock drafts with the bears taking him in the 2nd.
A lot of info on the web/twitter, key is knowing what is nonsense and not worth your time.
Like I said, I considered it and I think he’s a perfect fit there.

The Bears offense needs electric play making weapons. Gibbs would most certainly be that.

DHM, Gibbs, Mooney, Kmet is a much more dangerous top 4 target share than DJM, Mooney, Kmet, Claypool.

One man’s opinion. It’s not that crazy of a landing spot. Would make more sense than Bijan.
 
@menobrown - how you drafting Gibbs if he’s a Bear, and what do you think the chances are they take him?
As much as I can say a team has a zero percent change of drafting a player I would say zero. That makes no sense to me.
I’ve seen several mock drafts with the bears taking him in the 2nd.
A lot of info on the web/twitter, key is knowing what is nonsense and not worth your time.
Like I said, I considered it and I think he’s a perfect fit there.

The Bears offense needs electric play making weapons. Gibbs would most certainly be that.

DHM, Gibbs, Mooney, Kmet is a much more dangerous top 4 target share than DJM, Mooney, Kmet, Claypool.

One man’s opinion. It’s not that crazy of a landing spot. Would make more sense than Bijan.
I've not been following this thread but I'm staying with zero, that's as much sense as it makes to me.
 

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