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***Chicago Bears Thread*** Ben Johnson hired. The Resurrection Begins! (6 Viewers)

Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
 
Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
I know I'm biased, but what more can a coach ask for coming in. Good cap space, solid defense, two top 10 picks (including number one), a stud WR.
Some holes need to be filled for sure, but it's a better situation than the other teams that will be chasing him.
 
Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
I know I'm biased, but what more can a coach ask for coming in. Good cap space, solid defense, two top 10 picks (including number one), a stud WR.
Some holes need to be filled for sure, but it's a better situation than the other teams that will be chasing him.
I think he would've come here.
 
Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
I know I'm biased, but what more can a coach ask for coming in. Good cap space, solid defense, two top 10 picks (including number one), a stud WR.
Some holes need to be filled for sure, but it's a better situation than the other teams that will be chasing him.
I think he would've come here.
Without a doubt. But the McCaskeys would rather lose than give up the spotlight to Jim. He commands the spotlight because of who he is. He would be the entire story in the city. But alas, the McCaskeys are losers at life.
 
Would be lying in there wasn't this tiny part of me ready to be proven wrong and overjoyed to see them go after Harbaugh. Such a stupid think to even let barely creep into my mind when I knew all along what losers they all were.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
 
Is it set in stone that Eberflus is staying (honestly curious)? Was ditching the OC the bare minimum until they put out feelers & get confirmation back from Harbaugh/whomever that they would seriously listen before announcing that the “not so bad” Eberflus is gone? If they have indeed announced he’s staying on, they could legitimately change their mind if the situation changes — just asking.
 
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Is it set in stone that Eberflus is staying (honestly curious)? Was ditching the OC the bare minimum until they put out feelers & get confirmation back from Harbaugh/whomever that they would seriously listen before announcing that the “not so bad” Eberflus is gone? If they have indeed announced he’s staying on, they could legitimately change their mind if the situation changes — just asking.
Yes, Poles confirmed he's staying.
 
Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
I know I'm biased, but what more can a coach ask for coming in. Good cap space, solid defense, two top 10 picks (including number one), a stud WR.
Some holes need to be filled for sure, but it's a better situation than the other teams that will be chasing him.
I think he would've come here.
I think Harbaugh has eyes on San Diego and always has. I'd love to see him in a Bears hoodie, but I don't think the organization will give him the control he wanted.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
Spot on. The wins against Det and Atlanta are the reasons Flus and possibly Fields are staying. Ugh.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
Who is to say the don't take Young over Stroud last year and then where would they be. I was fine trading down with the haul they got and if they get offer something similar or more I would be fine keeping Fields.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
Who is to say the don't take Young over Stroud last year and then where would they be. I was fine trading down with the haul they got and if they get offer something similar or more I would be fine keeping Fields.
Why is it always worst case with you guys when trying to look at how they could finally have a franchise qb. It's like you're all permanently broken.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
Who is to say the don't take Young over Stroud last year and then where would they be. I was fine trading down with the haul they got and if they get offer something similar or more I would be fine keeping Fields.
Why is it always worst case with you guys when trying to look at how they could finally have a franchise qb. It's like you're all permanently broken.
Decades of frustration?
 
Why is it always worst case with you guys when trying to look at how they could finally have a franchise qb. It's like you're all permanently broken.

Why is it always best case scenario for you guys?

Even with the rosiest assumptions the best you can say is that it's a coin flip percentage that you'll actually pick a franchise QB with your high first round choice if that's your choice, the actual success rate is probably a lot lower. Whereas if you took MJH Jr. then I think it's safe to say the chances he busts are much, much lower than whatever QB you pick at the same spot. Having an elite WR around can also turn a 'meh' QB into a really good QB.

Look, I have no objections if you want to spend the 1.01 on a QB. But at a bare minimum, if you argue for that choice you should also:

(A) Be honest and at the same time acknowledge how much more risky that approach is than trading down, and

(B) Acknowledge that trading the 1.01 isn't a bad option either. It's not like having several chances to potentially draft guys who have a good chance to be a Pro Bowl offensive line, WR, or defensive players is a terrible thing. Even with the benefit of hindsight you might have instead picked a "franchise QB" instead. With the draft being a crapshoot anyway, it's not a bad mindset that it's an odds game; you do better with more first round picks, than having one pick at 1.01 or another Top 3 pick or whatnot.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
 
Their late season surge (if we can call it that) was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them long term. Holding on to a head coach who is 10-24 so far seems a bit wild, and the more I think about it, while Fields had flashes, he has had three years. If he was gonna be a good one, he would have shown it consistently by now. I am sure they will get a bundle by trading down and be able to stock pile picks and maybe even grab Harrison Jr, but if Caleb Williams pans out and Fields does not show major strides next year, they will look like total morons for having had the number 1 pick two years in a row and not taking Stroud or Caleb.
Who is to say the don't take Young over Stroud last year and then where would they be. I was fine trading down with the haul they got and if they get offer something similar or more I would be fine keeping Fields.
Why is it always worst case with you guys when trying to look at how they could finally have a franchise qb. It's like you're all permanently broken.
Decades of frustration?
OK. Good point
 
Why is it always worst case with you guys when trying to look at how they could finally have a franchise qb. It's like you're all permanently broken.

Why is it always best case scenario for you guys?

Even with the rosiest assumptions the best you can say is that it's a coin flip percentage that you'll actually pick a franchise QB with your high first round choice if that's your choice, the actual success rate is probably a lot lower. Whereas if you took MJH Jr. then I think it's safe to say the chances he busts are much, much lower than whatever QB you pick at the same spot. Having an elite WR around can also turn a 'meh' QB into a really good QB.

Look, I have no objections if you want to spend the 1.01 on a QB. But at a bare minimum, if you argue for that choice you should also:

(A) Be honest and at the same time acknowledge how much more risky that approach is than trading down, and

(B) Acknowledge that trading the 1.01 isn't a bad option either. It's not like having several chances to potentially draft guys who have a good chance to be a Pro Bowl offensive line, WR, or defensive players is a terrible thing. Even with the benefit of hindsight you might have instead picked a "franchise QB" instead. With the draft being a crapshoot anyway, it's not a bad mindset that it's an odds game; you do better with more first round picks, than having one pick at 1.01 or another Top 3 pick or whatnot.
Since they kept Eberflus, I'm actually against them drafting a QB now and want them to draft down. Ideally, I wanted Harbaugh and a new QB. I understand what you're saying, though.
 
They fill out the roster for a couple years. Our "starting" LT was drafted after that.

You're telling me that sixth and seventh rounders fill out the roster?

They're lucky if they stick with the team for over a year.
The Chiefs have like 6 or 7 major contributors on their roster right now that were drafted after pick 142. These are just the guys they drafted. There are a few more - would need to look.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
They are probably neck and neck. Eagles have the better OL and skill position players. I think Shane Stichen is an excellent coach and worked well with Hurts. Compared to Getsy who is kind of a bum.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
Ehh... Its no question that the Eagles have the better talent around the QB. They have the #1 rated OL. Better WRs.

Hurts - 65% completion rate, 2.8% INT rate, Rating 89.1
Fields - 61% completion rate, 2.4% INT rate, Rating 86.3

I wouldn't say "much better". And to think one of these guys should be traded for peanuts and the other is a "Franchise" guy.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
Ehh... Its no question that the Eagles have the better talent around the QB. They have the #1 rated OL. Better WRs.

Hurts - 65% completion rate, 2.8% INT rate, Rating 89.1
Fields - 61% completion rate, 2.4% INT rate, Rating 86.3

I wouldn't say "much better". And to think one of these guys should be traded for peanuts and the other is a "Franchise" guy.
Quoting stats is so deceiving. Watch the two play. One can run a traditional passing offense, one can't. The Eagles receivers have nothing to do with how Hurts looks between the snap of the ball to the release. That's on the qb. Fields could never run a standard timing based passing game. If you've watched him closely and are honest you'd know it.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
Ehh... Its no question that the Eagles have the better talent around the QB. They have the #1 rated OL. Better WRs.

Hurts - 65% completion rate, 2.8% INT rate, Rating 89.1
Fields - 61% completion rate, 2.4% INT rate, Rating 86.3

I wouldn't say "much better". And to think one of these guys should be traded for peanuts and the other is a "Franchise" guy.
Quoting stats is so deceiving. Watch the two play. One can run a traditional passing offense, one can't. The Eagles receivers have nothing to do with how Hurts looks between the snap of the ball to the release. That's on the qb. Fields could never run a standard timing based passing game. If you've watched him closely and are honest you'd know it.
Yep. I'm not saying Fields is better then Hurts. At this point, if I was a GM I'd take Hurts by a lot over Fields. He has just proven he is a winning QB in this league. Winning matters. The NFL changes very quickly and I still believe Fields has the goods to be a legit guy. I'm saying the gap between the two, from an ability standpoint, isnt light years apart.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
Ehh... Its no question that the Eagles have the better talent around the QB. They have the #1 rated OL. Better WRs.

Hurts - 65% completion rate, 2.8% INT rate, Rating 89.1
Fields - 61% completion rate, 2.4% INT rate, Rating 86.3

I wouldn't say "much better". And to think one of these guys should be traded for peanuts and the other is a "Franchise" guy.
Quoting stats is so deceiving. Watch the two play. One can run a traditional passing offense, one can't. The Eagles receivers have nothing to do with how Hurts looks between the snap of the ball to the release. That's on the qb. Fields could never run a standard timing based passing game. If you've watched him closely and are honest you'd know it.
I think Fields has the potential to is the point. He had Getsy, an average to below average OL and one good WR.
Its the polar opposite of Hurts who has had better coaching, the best line in the NFL, one of the top WR duos.
Eagles had 5 pro bowlers on offense. The Bears had zero. Hurts should be way better, but he isn't.
 
I'm not a Bears fan but I'd trade the pick to say the Pats, take MHJr. With Moore and Harrison, that is a dynamic combo that will help any QB. See Hurts with AJ and Devonta.
Would do nothing for Fields. He's not the QB Hurts is. He'd still be the same confused mess with a slow delivery.
Might get blasted here but, do we know for sure that from a talent standpoint Hurts is that much better then Fields? I'm not a Fields homer or a Hurts basher. Just from a skill level standpoint I just think they may be closer then people think.
He's much better. Just watch the two of them stand in the pocket and make decisions/throws. Hurts is way more poised, in control, smarter, and more accurate.
Ehh... Its no question that the Eagles have the better talent around the QB. They have the #1 rated OL. Better WRs.

Hurts - 65% completion rate, 2.8% INT rate, Rating 89.1
Fields - 61% completion rate, 2.4% INT rate, Rating 86.3

I wouldn't say "much better". And to think one of these guys should be traded for peanuts and the other is a "Franchise" guy.
Quoting stats is so deceiving. Watch the two play. One can run a traditional passing offense, one can't. The Eagles receivers have nothing to do with how Hurts looks between the snap of the ball to the release. That's on the qb. Fields could never run a standard timing based passing game. If you've watched him closely and are honest you'd know it.
Yep. I'm not saying Fields is better then Hurts. At this point, if I was a GM I'd take Hurts by a lot over Fields. He has just proven he is a winning QB in this league. Winning matters. The NFL changes very quickly and I still believe Fields has the goods to be a legit guy. I'm saying the gap between the two, from an ability standpoint, isnt light years apart.
I mean yeah, Fields might be the most athletic qb in the league. He's big and strong and fast. Has a huge arm. Just struggles with accuracy and decision making. But he's no chump.
 
Last few weeks I've been fielding Harbaugh questions or hearing Harbaugh comments from all my non Bears fan buddies. Hard to find a better setup/situation for the move. This wasn't just a silly wish Bears fans hoped for. This made so much sense for people that don't truly understand this franchise. Today I'm hearing from them again and now they're seeing what I've been complaining about for decades.
I know I'm biased, but what more can a coach ask for coming in. Good cap space, solid defense, two top 10 picks (including number one), a stud WR.
Some holes need to be filled for sure, but it's a better situation than the other teams that will be chasing him.
I think he would've come here.
Without a doubt. But the McCaskeys would rather lose than give up the spotlight to Jim. He commands the spotlight because of who he is. He would be the entire story in the city. But alas, the McCaskeys are losers at life.
To me the McCaskey Bears resemble the Tribune owned Cubs. Horrible ownership that does just enough to keep the paying fan base engaged. The McCaskey family lives off the Bears, win or lose, the family thrives, it's all they have for the most part. The McCaskeys could care less about the Halas/Bears NFL Legacy, they just want to fill their pockets. Sell the @#$%ing team please!
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
I think Waldon and Kubiak are the front runners. Waldon seems pretty average to me though. He had a good amount of talent in Seattle and that offense was only ok.

I think Frank Reich would be interesting as well. He has worked with Flus in Indy, so there is some familiarity. Although this could be the exact reason they don't go that route.

Kellen Moore and Greg Roman are probably ok bandaid options if everything else falls though.

Chase Daniels has offered to be the QB coach if they keep JF.
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
I think Waldon and Kubiak are the front runners. Waldon seems pretty average to me though. He had a good amount of talent in Seattle and that offense was only ok.

I think Frank Reich would be interesting as well. He has worked with Flus in Indy, so there is some familiarity. Although this could be the exact reason they don't go that route.

Kellen Moore and Greg Roman are probably ok bandaid options if everything else falls though.

Chase Daniels has offered to be the QB coach if they keep JF.
Tongue in cheek, I'm sure, but Chase has less than zero coaching experience. I think he could do well, but he needs some time on a coaching staff before that happens.
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
I think Waldon and Kubiak are the front runners. Waldon seems pretty average to me though. He had a good amount of talent in Seattle and that offense was only ok.

I think Frank Reich would be interesting as well. He has worked with Flus in Indy, so there is some familiarity. Although this could be the exact reason they don't go that route.

Kellen Moore and Greg Roman are probably ok bandaid options if everything else falls though.

Chase Daniels has offered to be the QB coach if they keep JF.
Tongue in cheek, I'm sure, but Chase has less than zero coaching experience. I think he could do well, but he needs some time on a coaching staff before that happens.
It was on the athletic podcast that I watched on YouTube and he was semi joking, but you could see on his face if they called he'd take it.

Daniels is a big believer in JF and thinks they were using him wrong. If the Bears do roll with JF in 24, that's the type of QB Coach they need. Not saying him, but someone who 100% believes in him.
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
I think Waldon and Kubiak are the front runners. Waldon seems pretty average to me though. He had a good amount of talent in Seattle and that offense was only ok.

I think Frank Reich would be interesting as well. He has worked with Flus in Indy, so there is some familiarity. Although this could be the exact reason they don't go that route.

Kellen Moore and Greg Roman are probably ok bandaid options if everything else falls though.

Chase Daniels has offered to be the QB coach if they keep JF.
Tongue in cheek, I'm sure, but Chase has less than zero coaching experience. I think he could do well, but he needs some time on a coaching staff before that happens.
It was on the athletic podcast that I watched on YouTube and he was semi joking, but you could see on his face if they called he'd take it.

Daniels is a big believer in JF and thinks they were using him wrong. If the Bears do roll with JF in 24, that's the type of QB Coach they need. Not saying him, but someone who 100% believes in him.
I suspect he'll be on a staff somewhere in the next year or two and it wouldn't surprise me if he does well.
 
So far, the Bears have asked permission to interview the following for the OC position:

Shane Waldon, former OC SEA
Klint Kubiak, Passing Game Coordinator SF
Liam Coen, OC Kentucky former OC LA Rams
Greg Olson, Offense Assistant SEA

Other options out there, haven't been contacted:
Eric Bienemy, Former OC WAS - likely a HC candidate
Ken Dorsey, Former OC BUF
Kevin Patullo, Passing game coordinator / Assistant HC PHI
Frank Reich, Former HC CAR
Duce Staley, Former RB Coach/Assistant HC CAR
Scottie Montgomery RB Coach/ Assistant HC DET

Lots of solid options out there. Two things I'd love to see are solid coaching experience and play calling experience. It's clear Flus needs a strong OC who's not learning on the job. Who are your favorites for the job and who do you think the Bears will eventually hire?
I think Waldon and Kubiak are the front runners. Waldon seems pretty average to me though. He had a good amount of talent in Seattle and that offense was only ok.

I think Frank Reich would be interesting as well. He has worked with Flus in Indy, so there is some familiarity. Although this could be the exact reason they don't go that route.

Kellen Moore and Greg Roman are probably ok bandaid options if everything else falls though.

Chase Daniels has offered to be the QB coach if they keep JF.
Tongue in cheek, I'm sure, but Chase has less than zero coaching experience. I think he could do well, but he needs some time on a coaching staff before that happens.
It was on the athletic podcast that I watched on YouTube and he was semi joking, but you could see on his face if they called he'd take it.

Daniels is a big believer in JF and thinks they were using him wrong. If the Bears do roll with JF in 24, that's the type of QB Coach they need. Not saying him, but someone who 100% believes in him.
I suspect he'll be on a staff somewhere in the next year or two and it wouldn't surprise me if he does well.
I agree. He bounced around the league long enough as a backup without any elite skills. Probably means his QB IQ is solid. Can't be upset with his results as a spot starter for the Bears either.
 
I also have to wonder how these interviews are going.

Bears would be smart not to tip their hand on the #1 pick, so it's almost like they need the OC to pitch their ideas for both Fields and Williams.

On the positive side, I think Williams could step into a Fields style offense easily.
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
Let it go, man. They also missed on Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones and Bryce Young in addition to many, many more high 1st round busts. It's easy to cherry pick in hindsight.
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
Let it go, man. They also missed on Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones and Bryce Young in addition to many, many more high 1st round busts. It's easy to cherry pick in hindsight.
Bottom line is, we don't have a real reason not to take one this year. Fields is not an acceptable reason. He's a losing qb. You don't keep that and pass on potential stars for a guy with his obvious flaws.
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
Let it go, man. They also missed on Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones and Bryce Young in addition to many, many more high 1st round busts. It's easy to cherry pick in hindsight.
Bears have missed on QBs for the last 40 years. Just let it go and accept decades of failure. No thank you
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
Let it go, man. They also missed on Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones and Bryce Young in addition to many, many more high 1st round busts. It's easy to cherry pick in hindsight.
Bottom line is, we don't have a real reason not to take one this year. Fields is not an acceptable reason. He's a losing qb. You don't keep that and pass on potential stars for a guy with his obvious flaws.
End of his 3rd season and their biggest rival beat him yet again and said the goal was to just keep him in the pocket and make him throw. Guess what? It worked. Couldn't be anymore obvious that he's never going to cut it, except to the broken Bears fans so used to failure.
 
In recent memory, the Bears have passed on Mahomes and recently Stroud. If they pass again in a QB this year and either of them make it, then that's 3 blown chances at a franchise qb that this organization had a shot at. There's no reason to believe that this team will ever become successful. Zero
Let it go, man. They also missed on Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones and Bryce Young in addition to many, many more high 1st round busts. It's easy to cherry pick in hindsight.
Bears have missed on QBs for the last 40 years. Just let it go and accept decades of failure. No thank you
Given that, why would you want to try yet again when the other option is a starting QB plus 3 1st round draft picks?
 

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