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It has. Watching law-abiding citizens and kids getting swept up in violence for no other reason than location is a sickness I'm not sure we can recover from or solve right now. There need to be sweeping cultural changes to deal with the issue and people are too scared to speak frankly about them lest they offend somebody.

 
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Chicago has had the most corrupt police department in the country.  That's getting cleaned up, but you can't turn around a battleship quickly.  The changes made now will take years to show.

 
IMO this stems from 4 things, none of which are easy to solve. Extreme poverty (which very few of us understand), very lax gun laws in Illinois, fear, and a historically horribly corrupt police force.

 
IMO this stems from 4 things, none of which are easy to solve. Extreme poverty (which very few of us understand), very lax gun laws in Illinois, fear, and a historically horribly corrupt police force.
I almost never get into gun control debates but doesn't Chicago itself have some of the strictest in the nation?

 
IMO this stems from 4 things, none of which are easy to solve. Extreme poverty (which very few of us understand), very lax gun laws in Illinois, fear, and a historically horribly corrupt police force.
From what I have heard Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws.

 
Gun laws in Chicago (as far as purchasing goes) don't matter when you can cross into Indiana and get an AK-47 in a box of Cracker Jacks.

 
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I'm just saying that Chicago is melting as I type & it is not getting better.  It's getting worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great city going down the tubes.

 
IMO this stems from 4 things, none of which are easy to solve. Extreme poverty (which very few of us understand), very lax gun laws in Illinois, fear, and a historically horribly corrupt police force.
Yes. Let's not blame the morons firing guns wherever and whenever they feel like it in any and all directions

 
I don't think Indiana gun laws have anything to do with the violence in Chicago (not that it was said). In fact, you could ban the sale of guns in Indiana and I doubt you see much/any improvement. 

 
Go ahead guys, just say it.  Stop dancing around what you think is the problem.  You can say un-PC things now.

 
Yes. Let's not blame the morons firing guns wherever and whenever they feel like it in any and all directions
Of course they are to blame but why is it so much worse in Chicago? I think it all stems from some portion of the 4 things I mentioned, and I should have said sentences for illegal firearms. Both the current and former PC have talked extensively about it.

 
Go ahead guys, just say it.  Stop dancing around what you think is the problem.  You can say un-PC things now.
Underclass culture (black and white) and poverty and desperation. Family breakdown. Cultural depravity. Wanton disrespect for human life. Gun culture.Etc.

 
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I don't think Indiana gun laws have anything to do with the violence in Chicago (not that it was said). In fact, you could ban the sale of guns in Indiana and I doubt you see much/any improvement. 
That's where a large portion of the guns being confiscated by the cops are from :shrug: Even did a huge news investigation about it.

 
Go ahead guys, just say it.  Stop dancing around what you think is the problem.  You can say un-PC things now.
Guys killing guys for no reason & yes it is a black guy problem.  Wish it wasn't so simple, but it is.  Until we come to that conclusion it will be hard to help.

 
Underclass culture (black and white) and poverty and desperation. Family breakdown. Cultural depravity. Wanton disrespect for human life. Gun culture.Etc.
Can't believe a person could put that in one sentence & be right & not labeled racist.  You did it.  Thank You.

 
That's where a large portion of the guns being confiscated by the cops are from :shrug: Even did a huge news investigation about it.
Are people crossing into IN, buying guns legally and then coming back to Chicago with them and using them in these murders? I'm not a "gun supporter", but I think they'd find guns no matter what. 

 
Guys killing guys for no reason & yes it is a black guy problem.  Wish it wasn't so simple, but it is.  Until we come to that conclusion it will be hard to help.
Nobody talks about anything either in fear of retaliation. Some gang member executed a rival gang members 2 year old this year, just a week ago or so a woman and her family was fire bombed in retaliation for the woman's sister killing someone.

 
Are people crossing into IN, buying guns legally and then coming back to Chicago with them and using them in these murders? I'm not a "gun supporter", but I think they'd find guns no matter what. 
Yep that's exactly what's happening. I am not saying that they wouldn't get guns but the ease of which they get them both access and cost would be limited a bit more. Certainly not the cause but a contributing factor, a bigger factor IMO is that when someone is caught with an illegal gun they get essentially a slap on the wrist based on what the PC has said.

 
I don't have one.  Just bring up a problem & hoping maybe someone has a solution.
There isn't an easy solution to this at all. People are dirt poor, are afraid of the gangs, don't trust the police and have no way out. If people are still afraid to talk about what they see after what's happened this year I am not sure they ever will.

 
Guys killing guys for no reason & yes it is a black guy problem.  Wish it wasn't so simple, but it is.  Until we come to that conclusion it will be hard to help.
Why didn't you lead with this instead of acting like it's a quiz to grade people on.

 
We should put a tracking app on all the criminals, seemed to set Rockaction on the straight and narrow.  :shrug:
Heh. They were putting GPS trackers on known criminals' cars in public without a warrant, but the Supreme Court nixed that.

 
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Gun laws in Chicago (as far as purchasing goes) don't matter when you can cross into Indiana and get an AK-47 in a box of Cracker Jacks.
If this has much of anything to do with the problem, why isn't Indiana awash with gun violence?  Why is the problem in Chicago?

 
Chicago has had the most corrupt police department in the country.  That's getting cleaned up, but you can't turn around a battleship quickly.  The changes made now will take years to show.
So the cops are to blame for the violence in Chicago?

 
This all started with the proliferation of rap music.....which was planned along with crack.

Blacks were not killing eachother left and right until the 80s

rap is the worst thing to happen to this country in the last 60 years

 
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don't know how to take that.  really don't.
It's quite simple

blacks unified in the 60s and 70s

so they used the media to break that unity and tell them it's cool to kill eachother and gave them incentive with the CIA flooding the country with cocaine

worked like a charm. It's a virus

 
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