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Man McCluster was defenseless and took a forearm shiver to the head on that play. The only contact was the forearm to the head. McCluster had no chance of escaping that.

 
The chiefs coaching staff must spend more time strategizing about lunch than getting their best player the football. Baffling and embarrassing .

 
"The ground can't cause a fumble" is a saying, not a rule. And a bad saying at that.The ground can certainly cause a fumble. What it can't do is cause a fumble when the contact with the ground makes you down by contact. That is, if your knee, elbow, back, etc (any body part but hands or feet) hits the ground, you're immediately down and the ball coming out because of that contact doesn't matter because the play is already dead.
Correct. I guess I'm guilty of not really watching closely enough. I thought he was touched, therefore it would have made him down by contact.
But if the contact with the ground does not yet make you down by contact, then it certainly can cause a fumble. If you're tackled and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, or your hand holding the ball, you're not yet down. So if you fumble it's still a live ball.
You sure about that? I thought if you were being tackled, and the ball was the first thing to hit the ground it would be down at that point. I guess I could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before. :yes:
 
I can't believe that four years of fail in Cleveland wasn't enough to convince people that Romeo is not head coaching material

 
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But if the contact with the ground does not yet make you down by contact, then it certainly can cause a fumble. If you're tackled and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, or your hand holding the ball, you're not yet down. So if you fumble it's still a live ball.
You sure about that? I thought if you were being tackled, and the ball was the first thing to hit the ground it would be down at that point. I guess I could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before. :yes:
Ball touching down doesn't make the person down. Has to be a part of his body other than the feet or hands. Or if he goes out of bounds or the like.
 
Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimDShould have been a foul on SD 26 for his hit on a defenseless receiver. Any contact to the head or neck area is a foul, ball tipped means 0!
While as we said, he still can't be hit in the head, I disagree with Daopoulos and think it was a good no call. While there was some contact with the head, I think a lot of the hit was delivered to the receiver's shoulder. It was close either way, but I'd rather they not call that penalty unless they are pretty sure it was a blow delivered right to the head. That was close enough to incidental contact the game will be better if they let it go. That's been my biggest complaint the last 2 years is they seem to have used a standard of "call it when in doubt". I'd rather they use the standard of call it when you are pretty sure it happened.
 
i said earlier today that this would either be one of those great Chargers games they have a couple times a year where they win 38-13 or KC would win 12-10. I'm leaning towards the latter.

 
I can't believe that four years of fail in Cleveland wasn't enough to convince people that Romeo is not head coaching material
Especially on the heels of all of the other Browns coaches who have nothing but success.
Doesn't mean Romeo wasn't a turd. Just means he was one in a LONG LINE of turds. Seriously: Anyone paying any attention to the Browns, as I was, knew that Romeo is a mental midget.
 
That's a defenseless reciever.
tipped ball
Doesn't matter. Any defenseless player is protected at any time.
"receiver"
No, any defenseless player is protected. There are 8 different situations where players are considered defenseless, and I believe it is not an exclusive list either. Any player that is deemed to be defenseless by the refs would be given the same protection, but any player in one of those 8 situation always is considered defenseless.
 
That's a defenseless reciever.
tipped ball
Doesn't matter. Any defenseless player is protected at any time.
"receiver"
No, any defenseless player is protected. There are 8 different situations where players are considered defenseless, and I believe it is not an exclusive list either. Any player that is deemed to be defenseless by the refs would be given the same protection, but any player in one of those 8 situation always is considered defenseless.
let's try this again. more reading, less talking, thanks.
 
That's a defenseless reciever.
tipped ball
Doesn't matter. Any defenseless player is protected at any time.
"receiver"
No, any defenseless player is protected. There are 8 different situations where players are considered defenseless, and I believe it is not an exclusive list either. Any player that is deemed to be defenseless by the refs would be given the same protection, but any player in one of those 8 situation always is considered defenseless.
let's try this again. more reading, less talking, thanks.
I before E, except after C. It was a one time mistake. I promiss.
 

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