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Chiefs wide receivers haven't caught a TD in a calendar year (1 Viewer)

Hard to believe that this would happen to the man who thought Todd Pinkston and James Thrash were sufficient as starting wide receivers.

 
I've been saying for over a calendar year it's the worst group in the NFL. Hell, it's maybe the worst group I've ever seen on a NFL team. Yet, even to me, this is a surprise. Truly outdoing themselves this year.

 
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So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.

 
Anyone catch the Chiefs final drive yesterday?

Chiefs were down with less than a minute, and the safeties were 8 yards off the LOS. Alex Smith actually can't throw it more than 10 yards with any zip.

 
Not sure what their cap situation is, but I can see them making a play for Randall Cobb in the offseason. Probably the best of the free agent WRs out there.

 
Casting Couch said:
It's really unbelievable when you think about it. It's never happened in the history of the game.

It's rock bottom.
even more unbelievable with a winning record and a legitimate chance of making the playoffs.

 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.

 
massraider said:
Anyone catch the Chiefs final drive yesterday?

Chiefs were down with less than a minute, and the safeties were 8 yards off the LOS. Alex Smith actually can't throw it more than 10 yards with any zip.
Al Smith can't hit WRs just in the end zone? How about Kelce? Lots of Reid at play here too of course.

 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.

 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.
 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.
Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?

 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.
Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?
I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible. I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.

 
Bowe also hasn't had 100+ yds receiving in a regular season game since week 4, 2012. That is 36 games in a row. And only 5 TDs in that span.

 
Bowe also hasn't had 100+ yds receiving in a regular season game since week 4, 2012. That is 36 games in a row. And only 5 TDs in that span.
cut him in a twelve team dynasty about 6 weeks ago, he' still sitting there.

I get a kick out of KC games on national tv, the tv guys constantly talk up bowe like he's an elite #1

 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.
Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?
I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible.I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.
Unfortunately the fix is not that easy, as the vertical passing game isn't ideally suited to Alex Smith's skill set.

 
Bowe also hasn't had 100+ yds receiving in a regular season game since week 4, 2012. That is 36 games in a row. And only 5 TDs in that span.
cut him in a twelve team dynasty about 6 weeks ago, he' still sitting there.I get a kick out of KC games on national tv, the tv guys constantly talk up bowe like he's an elite #1
Yeah both Bowe and Nicks started their decline around the same time in 2012. And Nicks has actually been better since then even though he is no longer a starter.

Yes Alex Smith sucks but Bowe has also lost a step and is almost never open. He probably would not be a WR1 for any other team in the league, even Oakland. A classic case of a guy getting a fat contract and then getting more fat and slow.

 
I don't care how bad the wrs are, Alex Smith is the ultimate wr killer. I wouldn't touch any wr that gets drafted there. Can't see any FA signing there unless they were really desperate.

 
Somewhat related, or maybe not, but when I think of someone they could sign to help I start thinking about Da'Rick Rogers. What kind of an amazing knucklehead must that guy be that a team as needy as the Chiefs don't even give him a look?

 
Still think Bowe is very talented
He used to be. Now he's just a complimentary WR being forced into a WR1 role which is above his skill level.
Not sure how you can say that given the qb play. People thought stevonne was done too when he had jimmy clausen throwing to him.
Because I watch him fail to get open on a weekly basis and have for about 2 years. I used to be a big supporter of his but he's just not that good anymore.
 
jurb26 said:
Kitrick Taylor said:
So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.
Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?
I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible.I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.
Unfortunately the fix is not that easy, as the vertical passing game isn't ideally suited to Alex Smith's skill set.
He's pretty good with the horizontal passing game though.

 
This is the face of a head coach watching Alex Smith trying to execute a Mike Martz offense in the pre-season:

http://i62.tinypic.com/10pojky.jpg

It was then he knew he was gonna be fired. Smith re-injured his right shoulder because he had to throw deep. Oddly enough, Shaun Hill won games under the same offense with Mike Singletary, after Nolan was fired.

 
I like when they point to Smith's stats when ahead vs. behind. No #### he's better when they are ahead. He's still the best backup QB starting on a consistent basis in the NFL.

 
Bojang0301 said:
I like when they point to Smith's stats when ahead vs. behind. No #### he's better when they are ahead. He's still the best backup QB starting on a consistent basis in the NFL.
Agreed.

Smith is just a dink-and-dunk Checkdown Charlie. If you need 5 yards, he'll get you 5. If you're at 3rd and 15, he'll get you 5 throwing to the fullback and 2nd string TE. He seems to have a fear of making a mistake. If you're afraid of failure, then you're not courageous enough to succeed when the need to do so is necessary.

The Chiefs aren't constructed to come from behind. If they get down early, they're done. Don't see how they'll ever expect to get WRs via free agency.

 
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You really have to have everything fall exactly right to pull something like this off. Reid + Smith + lack of quality WRs is that perfect formula. Probably won't happen again in 100 years.

 
You really have to have everything fall exactly right to pull something like this off. Reid + Smith + lack of quality WRs is that perfect formula. Probably won't happen again in 100 years.
Yeah and it's happening in the peak of the passing era where other teams are putting up video game stats on a regular basis with various players setting franchise records. It seems like it would be almost impossible to reach this level of futility in a year where even 4 rookie QB's have at least 1 game with 300+ yds passing + WR TDs, with Manziel on deck this week.

 

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