You deserve a 30 day timeout for even typing that.So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
even more unbelievable with a winning record and a legitimate chance of making the playoffs.Casting Couch said:It's really unbelievable when you think about it. It's never happened in the history of the game.
It's rock bottom.
what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Al Smith can't hit WRs just in the end zone? How about Kelce? Lots of Reid at play here too of course.massraider said:Anyone catch the Chiefs final drive yesterday?
Chiefs were down with less than a minute, and the safeties were 8 yards off the LOS. Alex Smith actually can't throw it more than 10 yards with any zip.
Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
Jamaal Charles is good at football.even more unbelievable with a winning record and a legitimate chance of making the playoffs.Casting Couch said:It's really unbelievable when you think about it. It's never happened in the history of the game.
It's rock bottom.
Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible. I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
cut him in a twelve team dynasty about 6 weeks ago, he' still sitting there.Bowe also hasn't had 100+ yds receiving in a regular season game since week 4, 2012. That is 36 games in a row. And only 5 TDs in that span.
Unfortunately the fix is not that easy, as the vertical passing game isn't ideally suited to Alex Smith's skill set.I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible.I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
By "wide receivers" do they mean "blockers"?Faust said:
Yeah both Bowe and Nicks started their decline around the same time in 2012. And Nicks has actually been better since then even though he is no longer a starter.cut him in a twelve team dynasty about 6 weeks ago, he' still sitting there.I get a kick out of KC games on national tv, the tv guys constantly talk up bowe like he's an elite #1Bowe also hasn't had 100+ yds receiving in a regular season game since week 4, 2012. That is 36 games in a row. And only 5 TDs in that span.
Fixed.It's amazing Jamaal Charles KC wins as many games as he does they do.
He used to be. Now he's just a complimentary WR being forced into a WR1 role which is above his skill level.Still think Bowe is very talented
Not sure how you can say that given the qb play. People thought stevonne was done too when he had jimmy clausen throwing to him.He used to be. Now he's just a complimentary WR being forced into a WR1 role which is above his skill level.Still think Bowe is very talented
Because I watch him fail to get open on a weekly basis and have for about 2 years. I used to be a big supporter of his but he's just not that good anymore.Not sure how you can say that given the qb play. People thought stevonne was done too when he had jimmy clausen throwing to him.He used to be. Now he's just a complimentary WR being forced into a WR1 role which is above his skill level.Still think Bowe is very talented
Smith fans blame everything else but Smith. There is an internet meme for that: Alexcuses. Coined circa 2007.Alex Smith
He's pretty good with the horizontal passing game though.Unfortunately the fix is not that easy, as the vertical passing game isn't ideally suited to Alex Smith's skill set.I don't think so. I've been of the opinion for a long time now that the problem with the KC WRs is, the KC WRs. They just aren't very good. Well, they are terrible.I think Reid and the KC offense can easily support solid WR production if they get a guy talented enough. I sure as heck hope so as a Charles owner. He could use the vertical threat to help open things up.Maybe I should be more clear. Chiefs need a talented WR bad. If Cooper/Parker/White etc go there does it kill their value?I expect Cooper to go in the top 10. I suppose KC could trade up to get him but I doubt it happens.Not counting one of the NFC south teams, there are 11 teams in the league with a worse record than the Chiefs. They could end up with a borderline top 10 pick.what would kill his value is whatever caused him to drop.jurb26 said:Can't see how they end up in position to draft him. If so, I think he would be fine. If he can get opened, which none of KCs current group are capable of, he will get looks in a Reid offense.Kitrick Taylor said:So if they draft Cooper does that kill his value?
As bad as he's been, he's still got better numbers than Krapernick. It's true... go ahead and look.And the guys in the 49ers thread want Smith back?![]()
Like the post season?As bad as he's been, he's still got better numbers than Krapernick. It's true... go ahead and look.And the guys in the 49ers thread want Smith back?![]()
Agreed.Bojang0301 said:I like when they point to Smith's stats when ahead vs. behind. No #### he's better when they are ahead. He's still the best backup QB starting on a consistent basis in the NFL.
Yeah and it's happening in the peak of the passing era where other teams are putting up video game stats on a regular basis with various players setting franchise records. It seems like it would be almost impossible to reach this level of futility in a year where even 4 rookie QB's have at least 1 game with 300+ yds passing + WR TDs, with Manziel on deck this week.You really have to have everything fall exactly right to pull something like this off. Reid + Smith + lack of quality WRs is that perfect formula. Probably won't happen again in 100 years.