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[The_Underachiever]

I just read on rotoworld that Felix Jones is going to be available for kickoff duties and a couple of carries. Has Choice really overtaken Felix on the depth chart or is this just speculation? Does this feel like a permanent change with Choice at #2 or is this just temporary?

Thanks,

Confused in Dallas

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Felix Jones-RB-Cowboys Oct. 21 - 1:32 pm et

Felix Jones (knee) participated in Cowboys practice Wednesday.

Jones will be available for kickoff return duties and probably a few change of pace carries Sunday against Atlanta. He has fallen behind Marion Barber and Tashard Choice on the depth chart, however, and isn't a fantasy option.

Source: Dallas Morning News

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[Banger]

I just read on rotoworld that Felix Jones is going to be available for kickoff duties and a couple of carries. Has Choice really overtaken Felix on the depth chart or is this just speculation? Does this feel like a permanent change with Choice at #2 or is this just temporary? Thanks, Confused in DallasQuote:Felix Jones-RB-Cowboys Oct. 21 - 1:32 pm etFelix Jones (knee) participated in Cowboys practice Wednesday.Jones will be available for kickoff return duties and probably a few change of pace carries Sunday against Atlanta. He has fallen behind Marion Barber and Tashard Choice on the depth chart, however, and isn't a fantasy option.Source: Dallas Morning News---------------------------------Edited for grammar correction.---------------------------------

that situation looks to be a fantasy mess for the next few weeks until we see how they are going to be used or until they get hurt again.

 

[big0mar]

They aren't going to rush Jones back from injury. When he is 100% he'll be ahead of Choice. I think whats important is how much of the load Barber gets going forward. He has looked like the worst of the 3 backs this season.

 

[jobarules]

I think Choice is the #2 RB for now

 

[sdsjr3]

They aren't going to rush Jones back from injury. When he is 100% he'll be ahead of Choice. I think whats important is how much of the load Barber gets going forward. He has looked like the worst of the 3 backs this season.

I haven't seen that and I've seen a large majority of his carries. He's running more determined this year than last I think. If healthy, I would bet MB3 sees 65% of the carries. He does everything well and is too valuable to Dallas for them not to use him.

 

[Malabar]

so, with alll 3 backs back this week and based on this game, Felix is indeed the #2, and Choice would see very minimal touches when all 3 are healthy.

 

[3nOut]

With Felix Jones back and chice showing he is capable of starting, what can we expect from Barber going forward? What tier to we put him in? Who would you compare him to FF-value-wise?

 

[Bankerguy]

Don't listen to the DMN-no one else does.

Barber (Broken thumb and still bothered by a Quad)

Felix- PCL injury and wearing a brace

Choice the consensus 3rd stringer behind Barber/Felix

I see things returning to what we saw earlier in the year-depending on Barber's health.

 

[One]

Don't listen to the DMN-no one else does.

who?

 

[One]

With Felix Jones back and chice showing he is capable of starting, what can we expect from Barber going forward? What tier to we put him in? Who would you compare him to FF-value-wise?

Tough call since Barber isn't looking like his old self.One thing is for sure though, when he and Felix are active, Choice sits.

 

[Bankerguy]

I just read on rotoworld that Felix Jones is going to be available for kickoff duties and a couple of carries. Has Choice really overtaken Felix on the depth chart or is this just speculation? Does this feel like a permanent change with Choice at #2 or is this just temporary?

Thanks,

Confused in Dallas

Quote:

Felix Jones-RB-Cowboys Oct. 21 - 1:32 pm et

Felix Jones (knee) participated in Cowboys practice Wednesday.

Jones will be available for kickoff return duties and probably a few change of pace carries Sunday against Atlanta. He has fallen behind Marion Barber and Tashard Choice on the depth chart, however, and isn't a fantasy option.

Source: Dallas Morning News

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Edited for grammar correction.

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Your's or the newspapers?...just checking.

 

[t_gunslinger]

Don't listen to the DMN-no one else does.Barber (Broken thumb and still bothered by a Quad)Felix- PCL injury and wearing a braceChoice the consensus 3rd stringer behind Barber/FelixI see things returning to what we saw earlier in the year-depending on Barber's health.

Could not of said it better.Choice is still the #3, but if Jones or MB3 is not 100% he will see time.

 

[Bankerguy]

Marion Barber-RB-Cowboys Oct. 29 - 12:38 pm et

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Marion Barber (quad) is still not 100 percent but "he's still explosive."

Barber was on the injury report Wednesday because of that lingering quad injury, but he practiced. Two weeks ago, running backs coach Skip Peete said Barber could feel his quad for another 10 weeks. Still, as long as Barber is playing he's a must start.

Source: Fort Worth Star-Telegram

 

[Tanner9919]

this RB situation is worse than the one in NE...you just never know who is going to get the majority of the carries from

week to week

 

[PahtyTom]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

 

[switz]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

 

[PahtyTom]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

Barber isn't the GL back? Ok.

 

[jobarules]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.

Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

what planet do you live on?

 

[switz]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

Barber isn't the GL back? Ok.

No, he's not. Sorry you didn't already know that, but if you watch the Dallas games you would know that already.All three players have been used there, Barber the most, but not exclusively.

 

[PahtyTom]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

Barber isn't the GL back? Ok.

No, he's not. Sorry you didn't already know that, but if you watch the Dallas games you would know that already.All three players have been used there, Barber the most, but not exclusively.

I watch all their games. Sorry Switz, you are obviously a smart guy but your Felix blinders are too much. I have to block you. GL (honestly mean that).

 

[HF21]

Is Choice safe to drop now? Is he worth holding on to?

 

[Bankerguy]

Switz is partially right but clearly not telling the whole truth whether by omission or not.

Jones has been given the luxury of finishing some of his own drives and gotten GL and red zone carries. He normally gets the formations where they spread the defense out and run a draw. However, in more classic situations where Dallas needs a couple of feet to score with a GL look - that it WILL be Barber. It's pretty safe to say that Barber will get +85% of the GL touches.

 

[Bankerguy]

Is Choice safe to drop now? Is he worth holding on to?

He will get 3rd down looks and is the back up to Barber moreso then Jones because of their similar styles.Unless something more happens to Barber, his value is pretty low barring him busting the handful of thouches he would get.He's a nice luxury to hold-but if you need point now-he's not your guy.

 

[Bankerguy]

I just read on rotoworld that Felix Jones is going to be available for kickoff duties and a couple of carries. Has Choice really overtaken Felix on the depth chart or is this just speculation? Does this feel like a permanent change with Choice at #2 or is this just temporary? Thanks, Confused in DallasQuote:Felix Jones-RB-Cowboys Oct. 21 - 1:32 pm etFelix Jones (knee) participated in Cowboys practice Wednesday.Jones will be available for kickoff return duties and probably a few change of pace carries Sunday against Atlanta. He has fallen behind Marion Barber and Tashard Choice on the depth chart, however, and isn't a fantasy option.Source: Dallas Morning News---------------------------------Edited for grammar correction.---------------------------------

More facts here.....Felix Jones ready to return kicks 12:26 PM Thu, Oct 29, 2009 | Permalink Todd Archer/Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips With Allen Rossum out 2-4 weeks with a hamstring injury, Felix Jones will be the Cowboys' main kick returner but coach Wade Phillips said Wednesday they will look at some other possible returners.Jones wants the job. He is averaging 23 yards per return on eight tries this season."I guess it's my time to step up," Jones said. "Hopefully we don't have to do it too many times but I'm ready when my time's called."But is it wise to expose Jones to the bigger hits on kick returns when he's shown he's susceptible to injury in his two seasons?"Hey, ain't no way around that," Jones said. "This is a physical game. You can get hurt walking a straight line. It's just playing football. There's no way around not getting hurt."Jones said he will continue to wear the brace on his knee but he came out of Sunday's game vs. Atlanta feeling fine. "The knee brace really helped me out a lot," Jones said. "Every day it's getting better to the point where I don't need it anymore but I'll guess I'll be using it until I feel confident in what's going on with my knee."

 

[The_Fonz]

I have Jones and Choice. I am not playing either of them until I see more of all 3 playing. I watched a lot of last week's game and I cannot figure out any rhyme or reason to who they use and when. Marion Barber doesn't look like he's back. He falls down much easier than he used to. Choice and Jones didn't do squat last week. Atlanta's rushing D isn't all that great and they looked very average, all of them. Until someone gets hurt again, I am avoiding them.

 

[hook014]

I've got the room and I'm gonna hold Choice for the time being. I suspect there are many who will do the same here.

Not a MB owner but Choice is as good a lottery ticket as any on my ww.

 

[switz]

Switz is partially right but clearly not telling the whole truth whether by omission or not. Jones has been given the luxury of finishing some of his own drives and gotten GL and red zone carries. He normally gets the formations where they spread the defense out and run a draw. However, in more classic situations where Dallas needs a couple of feet to score with a GL look - that it WILL be Barber. It's pretty safe to say that Barber will get +85% of the GL touches.

Barber has 9 of 14 GL runs on the season... IMO "the GL back" implies that one guy will get pulled so the other guy goes in, that doesn't happen. Barber gets the most touches, and will get the most GL touches as well, but he's not "the" GL RB.

 

[jobarules]

Switz is partially right but clearly not telling the whole truth whether by omission or not.

Jones has been given the luxury of finishing some of his own drives and gotten GL and red zone carries. He normally gets the formations where they spread the defense out and run a draw. However, in more classic situations where Dallas needs a couple of feet to score with a GL look - that it WILL be Barber. It's pretty safe to say that Barber will get +85% of the GL touches.

Barber has 9 of 14 GL runs on the season... IMO "the GL back" implies that one guy will get pulled so the other guy goes in, that doesn't happen. Barber gets the most touches, and will get the most GL touches as well, but he's not "the" GL RB.

And how many of those 5 came in the game he got hurt or the game he missed?

 

[Bankerguy]

Switz is partially right but clearly not telling the whole truth whether by omission or not. Jones has been given the luxury of finishing some of his own drives and gotten GL and red zone carries. He normally gets the formations where they spread the defense out and run a draw. However, in more classic situations where Dallas needs a couple of feet to score with a GL look - that it WILL be Barber. It's pretty safe to say that Barber will get +85% of the GL touches.

Barber has 9 of 14 GL runs on the season... IMO "the GL back" implies that one guy will get pulled so the other guy goes in, that doesn't happen. Barber gets the most touches, and will get the most GL touches as well, but he's not "the" GL RB.

Switz, you are a good guy.I've seen this dance with you before. Kinda like the Macarena, but I'm not dancing with ya.

 

[switz]

Switz is partially right but clearly not telling the whole truth whether by omission or not. Jones has been given the luxury of finishing some of his own drives and gotten GL and red zone carries. He normally gets the formations where they spread the defense out and run a draw. However, in more classic situations where Dallas needs a couple of feet to score with a GL look - that it WILL be Barber. It's pretty safe to say that Barber will get +85% of the GL touches.

Barber has 9 of 14 GL runs on the season... IMO "the GL back" implies that one guy will get pulled so the other guy goes in, that doesn't happen. Barber gets the most touches, and will get the most GL touches as well, but he's not "the" GL RB.

Switz, you are a good guy.I've seen this dance with you before. Kinda like the Macarena, but I'm not dancing with ya.

M'eh... my statement was in agreement with what you posted

 

[Ministry of Pain]

As I wrote in my thread this week...let’s break down the drive charts.

1st drive: 3 n out, 1 carry for MB III

2nd drive: 6 plays, 1 carry for both MBIII and Felix

3rd drive: 8 plays resulting in a FG, 1 carry for Felix.

4th drive: 2 plays both to Felix and he fumbles on the 2nd carry, turned the ball over.

5th drive: Big pass play to Austin

6th drive: 11 plays, 2 minute warning for most of it, MBIII had 1 carry.

In the 2nd half Barber started, then Felix and Dallas scored a TD with him on the drive. Barber came back on the next drive and the Cowboys scored again, this time a FG. When it went inside 5 minutes Barber carried the ball to close the game out.

What does this tell us? Tashard Choice got basically nothing. Barber and Felix will be split a lot of drives or 1 on and 1 off it seems. If Dallas is ahead, Barber will get more carries as they trust him to grind it out for the win.

 

[chidoy]

What does this tell us? Tashard Choice got basically nothing. Barber and Felix will be split a lot of drives or 1 on and 1 off it seems. If Dallas is ahead, Barber will get more carries as they trust him to grind it out for the win.

 

[ft_ball_fan]

As I wrote in my thread this week...let’s break down the drive charts.

1st drive: 3 n out, 1 carry for MB III

2nd drive: 6 plays, 1 carry for both MBIII and Felix

3rd drive: 8 plays resulting in a FG, 1 carry for Felix.

4th drive: 2 plays both to Felix and he fumbles on the 2nd carry, turned the ball over.

5th drive: Big pass play to Austin

6th drive: 11 plays, 2 minute warning for most of it, MBIII had 1 carry.

In the 2nd half Barber started, then Felix and Dallas scored a TD with him on the drive. Barber came back on the next drive and the Cowboys scored again, this time a FG. When it went inside 5 minutes Barber carried the ball to close the game out.

What does this tell us? Tashard Choice got basically nothing. Barber and Felix will be split a lot of drives or 1 on and 1 off it seems. If Dallas is ahead, Barber will get more carries as they trust him to grind it out for the win.

Nice analysis. Dallas rushing week by week (team totals)

1 vs TB 118 total

2 vs NYG 251 total

3 vs CAR 212 total

4 vs DEN 74 total

5 vs KC 150 total

6 vs ATL 115 total

A couple big games vs NYG and CAR are skewing the avg a bit IMO... three of those games when you split the yardage by 2 (or 2 1/2 w/Choice taking some yards) backs you get totals too low for a RB1 IMO. Romo also has 63 yards rushing so far... so take that out of the RB stats too. While DAL 150 ypg avg rushing looks great... with this many backs getting time its not good enough for any of them to be RB1.

 

[joffer]

the dallas offense is very good and getting better every week. The Dallas offensive line just destroys people in the run game. The only question with Barber is his quad. The thumb injury is not a factor. If his quad continues to get better, Barber is a good bet to lead the league in TDs from here on out.Barber is a big risk but he won't cost you much to take a shot on him. His injury is scary, but his situation and TD upside is scary good. And a healthy Barber could win you a title.

Nope, Barber will split time with Jones from here on out, and he isn't the GL back. I don't expect to see Barber get more work than he got last week in any game (15 touches total).Jones will start seeing more touches as the season goes on, I know I sound like a broken record, but he really is the best of the Dallas RBs.Choice will likely see some spot duty as the 3rd down RB, but that's it... barring injuries to Barber and Jones.

can't say it never gets old, because it does. but it's still gold