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ant gonzalez in the 5th instead of TO in the 4th? omg What r u smoking??? lol can i join ur league!nlgb1 said:
...yes gonzo in 5th over TO in 4th easy. TO barely eclipsed 1000 yds and 10 tds with romo throwing him the ball. gonzo was number 3 last year and put up 57/664/4. a TO decrease in production and gonzo increase in production puts them at a very similar spot, if not identical. so yes, wait a round and grab gonzo. pick up higher tier RB in the 4th instead.if ur gonna criticize a post, at least provide some reasoning... not just some blind shot in the dark
I'm definitely not comfortable with Gonzo Jr as my WR2. I don't think the Colts offense is what they once were, and Gonzo Jr is certainly no Marvin Harrison.
well dont expect much better out of TO
I love playing in leagues were guys think in terms of "better value". Because, while he skips over players, with the idea of grabbing someone else in a later round, that someone else gets taken by another. So he ends up in that later round saying to himself, 'I can get this player, or grab that player later... because he'd have better value then."'Better value' owners tend to have a team full of second-class talent... since they won't "overpay" for the scoring studs.Vonnlgb1 said:
don't forget, the Reggie Wayne type he mentioned just might be Reggie Wayne. I'm not taking two WRs from the same team as my 1/2. Imagine if Peyton were injured.
The whole concept of tiers (which most good drafters use) is designed to maximize value. You can disagree with the idea that Gonzo is in the same tier as TO (I think it's a stretch myself) but I'd much rather my opponents go in with a linear rankings list than guys who are thinking about value.
TO puts up 1000+ yards every year. Gonzo put up 664 yards last year and has stone hands. Is that enough for ya lol?
TO is on the bills now... fyi. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr check gonzo's catch rate then come back and tell me he has stone hands
colts offense had a rash of OL injuries and peyton had knee surgeries in the off season and Marvin wilted. once peyton and the OL started rolling the offense wsa just fine. fast forward to now peyton healthy/OL healthy and youngsters season'd/add in a dynamic RB to compliment-replace addai'. saying that Gonzo is a extremely talented 3RD YEAR WR who is now starting and who PEYTON MANNING throwing him the ball. and if your needing your #2WR u don't need Gonzo to be Marvin.while still pretty good TO is clearly in decline(and that decline has been in a very good offense) and going to a offense with the worst QB(no offense to Trent) he's ever had throwing him the ball. everyone that keeps banging the TO "always gets over 1000yards and 10TD's" drum..........how did u feel when u had marvin 2years ago/joe horn a few years ago. TO is totally dependent on his physical tools which will make his demise(when it happens) very ugly.take Gonzo and fill another need in the 4th
TO is a risk, but Gonzo is the 3rd receiving option in Indy. As for Edwards being TO's worst QB ever, we'll see. TO's 2006 QB was completely unknown before TO got to town. Garcia's been alright but not great. Edwards completion % last year is better than Romo's, McNabb's or Garcia's ever was and he basically had one good receiver. His any/a is low, but we'll see what happens with TO. In any event, the question is what do you want with your WR2, my answer is it depends on my WR1.If I have a STUD WR like Andre, Fitz, Calvin or Moss, I'll take a little more risk with my WR2. A guy like TO is perfect. If my WR1 is good, say Colston level, I want a WR2 I can count on to start for me. Injuries play a role here too, but not as much as I can't predict them.ninerfanatic492000 said:
LOL let me quote ur websitenlgb1 said:
YAR and DVOA include all passes intended for the receiver, both complete and incomplete. Catch Rate represents the percentage of passes to this receiver completed. This is a reference to incomplete passes, not dropped passes: dropped passes are not specified in publicly available play-by-play, and unfortunately we cannot yet correct for this.
Don't be that guy........
I agree that if you could get TO in the 4th, I would take that. .but this is a bit ironic calling out Gonzalez with a stone hands quote while talking up TO who probably drops more passes than any WR out there...
This isn't a "hands" statistic. If TO runs deeper routes and has a less accurate QB than Gonzo his percentage is going to be lower regardless of ability.
Not sure...but TO might have seen a few more double teams too.
I AGREE with Von 100% I see it happen all the time and it even happened to me last year when I thought for sure my guy would be there next round.I would grab TO without a doubt before any of those guys mentioned. It's his first year in BUF, he has a one year contract so he will be on his best behavior. I feel BUF will have some weapons this year.If PPR you better come right back for WR in hopes of Braylon/Chad 85/ Royal/Bryant/V Jax/Holmes or A Gonz. Mock it up and see as depending on value of TE dropping I usually start looking for my te anywhere from rounds 4-7. Just my 2 cents
You know what *IS* a "hands" statistic? Dropped passes. How many times has Anthony Gonzalez led the league in dropped passes? I can't think of any. I can, however, think of at least THREE SEASONS where Terrell Owens has led the league in dropped passes. In other words- you were saying?Besides, I don't care if he's running nothing but 8-yard curls- no WR catches 70+% of his targets if he has bad hands. Simply impossible.
