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drcrappants
Footballguy
did you know he isnt starting when you drafted him???
bought into the hype, awesome preseason, thought he would have a good year.
I was able to move him yesterday for Choice (MBIII owner). I like him as others have stated, but with Cincy running the ball well, I think he is an afterthought outside of the red zone.
drcrappants
Footballguy
he already has a td. you have to wait on someone like henry.
For me personally, I knew he wasn't starting but assumed he'd be WR3 on a team that a) runs a lot of 3WR sets, b) has a WR2 (Coles) that is aging and has no history with the QB, and c) would struggle to run the ball.Turns out I underestimated both the Bengals running game, but especially the impact of Caldwell. Didn't see him contributing much at all. Now Henry is WR4 on a run-first team.
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David Bowie
Footballguy
It's only week 2. CIN played 2 teams that had great passing defense weeks. If you have room on the bench, you might as well keep him around. Even Ochocinco hasn't been living up to his projected stats. And personally, I don't think Benson will stay as good as he's been. It will all open up in a few weeks.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Henry is going to have some good games down the road but he is still a #3 WR. Many people drafted Henry too high after the pre-season.
I took Henry in the 9th rd in one 12 team league so I am willing to wait to see what happens. In another league a guy drafted Henry in the 5th which seemed a bit early to me.
I took Henry in the 9th rd in one 12 team league so I am willing to wait to see what happens. In another league a guy drafted Henry in the 5th which seemed a bit early to me.
drcrappants
Footballguy
???85 has done great
drcrappants
Footballguy
yea i took him 10-13 which is ok since the other people there are WW fodder material. whoever drafts henry in the 5th deserves to lose anyways
karmarooster
Footballguy
yes this is the key issue here. Caldwell cuts into Henry's value too much and seems like a quality slot WR. IMO Henry just doesn't have the value at this point baring an injury to Ochocinco or Coles. without that, he's really nothing more than a bye-week fill in WR in deep leagues where you can pray for a TD. in the preseason and all of Palmer's baby moss BS talk, it seemed like Henry was going to seriously push for WR2 and possibly displace Coles. At this point, he's not seeing as many targets as Caldwell.I'm cutting him this week to add Manningham or Knox. It's strictly about targets.
karmarooster
Footballguy
5th round??? crazy talk!
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
I think it's a good time to buy low on Henry. His preseason hype got out of control and a lot of owners drafted him way too highly (myself included)... I saw him going around the 6th/7th round by the end of the preseason. He never should've been that highly valued, but that doesn't mean that he's not poised for a nice season.
I think the fact that the hype drove his ADP so high now has a lot of the owners who bit on him prematurely viewing him as a "bust" and ready to cut bait. When in reality he isn't really a "bust" to anyone except those owners who got caught up in the hype and overpaid for him on draft-day. If he had stayed a late round flier pick like he should have been, then he'd actually be doing pretty well right now.
Point is: I think it's a good time to nab him for a price that is closer in value to where he should've been getting drafted in the first place now that the preseason honeymoon has blown over and his value has come back down to reality. I've been targeting him in package deals that include him and another WR.
I think the fact that the hype drove his ADP so high now has a lot of the owners who bit on him prematurely viewing him as a "bust" and ready to cut bait. When in reality he isn't really a "bust" to anyone except those owners who got caught up in the hype and overpaid for him on draft-day. If he had stayed a late round flier pick like he should have been, then he'd actually be doing pretty well right now.
Point is: I think it's a good time to nab him for a price that is closer in value to where he should've been getting drafted in the first place now that the preseason honeymoon has blown over and his value has come back down to reality. I've been targeting him in package deals that include him and another WR.
Young 8
Footballguy
exactly5 targets (Daniel Coats has 6.......), 2 rec, 23 yds that's garbage
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Rushmore
Footballguy
Caldwell isn't going away. He's going to continue to catch a lot of the short stuff that Housh was used for, but with some more speed-based plays like the occasional reverse etc. I would like to eventually see Henry line up opposite Chad (over Coles) with Caldwell staying put in the slot. That would keep Henry on the field more, and would give him a few more deep ball opportunities. I would hold onto Henry, because I believe the scenario I just mentioned is very possible. The staff has even said they would like to get him more opporunities, and Palmer/Henry missed on a deep ball vs. Green Bay last week. Had they connected, his stat line would've looked a lot better along with the touchdown he caught. I guess it depends on who is out there and the league size, but I still believe that by the end of the year, Henry will have a decent amount of touchdowns but with the receptions on the low side.
bollocks28
Footballguy
My bench is not deep enough to warrant keeping him around any longer. We parted ways this morning after the waiver wire opened up.
Go DC Yourself
Footballguy
I'm giving him one more week to see how he does going deep againt the Stillers w/o Troy P back there, but when the byes start to hit, an unproducing Henry is a luxury I can't afford.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
In a redraft setup, which I assume most of this thread is dedicated to, I would understand some cutting ties,
especially if Steve Smith, Sims-Walker, or Manningham is available. But in a dynasty league, he is a buy and hold, imo.
especially if Steve Smith, Sims-Walker, or Manningham is available. But in a dynasty league, he is a buy and hold, imo.
drcrappants
Footballguy
wont be happening, as henry would play when 85 comes out. i think coles stays thoughyes this is the key issue here. Caldwell cuts into Henry's value too much and seems like a quality slot WR. IMO Henry just doesn't have the value at this point baring an injury to Ochocinco or Coles. without that, he's really nothing more than a bye-week fill in WR in deep leagues where you can pray for a TD. in the preseason and all of Palmer's baby moss BS talk, it seemed like Henry was going to seriously push for WR2 and possibly displace Coles. At this point, he's not seeing as many targets as Caldwell.I'm cutting him this week to add Manningham or Knox. It's strictly about targets.
gnarboots11
Footballguy
Laverneous Coles has a TD too, I cut him quicklike for just about anything. I put Henry in the same boat, the low # of targets is what kills any upside and all I care about is upside. I would much rather own a guy like L Robinson, Sims-Walker, Manham, etc. Guys who get targets.
It would have been foolish to think that he was going instantly explode this season. They brought Laveranues Coles in in the off-season and paid him a lot of money to start. The smart logic was always that Coles would fade and that Henry would emerge over the course of the season, perhaps really coming on in the latter half of the year.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
The big surprise is Caldwell has more catches than both Coles and Henry. Put together.
Haberdasher
Footballguy
He shouldn't be dropped in dyno of course, but in keep 4 leagues with shallow roster sizes and redrafts he isn't serving much purpose right now. He is just not playing enough snaps to keep around when there are guys like Manningham, Knox, and Sims-Walker on the wire.
3nOut
Footballguy
I don't think Henry will be a yardage guy but will get a few TDs this yer. The problem is guessing which weeks he will score. I drfated him as my last receiver as a flier but am now considering dropping him for a young receiver like Knox that has a chance to become more of a consistent threat that you could plug in as a bye week filler with more confidence if you had to.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Like so many other guys it really depends on the league. Henry is just a role player, but his role happens to have a lot of value, being the deep ball and red zone threat. He may have the best TD:reception ratio in the league this year. He's going to be inconsistent, but he isn't going to be as consistently bad as he's been the first 2 weeks. If you're in a deeper league and can't get one of the top waiver plays then hold, otherwise, replace him.
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Starting him this week, he is a Steeler killer.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I drafted him to sit on my bench in the hopes that he would blow up. After watching the games... I just dropped him. It's obvious that he isn't a big part of their gameplan and I am not going to sit around and hope that the week I need him that he will catch a deep touchdown pass on one of his only 2 targets of the game.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Although it's true that Henry had 9 catches for 193 yards and 1 TD in 2006 (two games), and had a 66-yard reception on the infamous Carson Palmer injury play, he only has 12 catches for 152 yards in the rest of the regular season games combined.Keeping in mind that nearly half of Henry's production came in 2006, it's not surprising his best games against the Steelers came that season.If you believe the matchup is helped by the absence of Polamalu and/or the Bengals may be forced to throw more due to a top rushing defense and possibly trailing in the game, then those are reasons to start Henry. I don't think you can count on what happened in one season three years ago.In three games at Cincinnati, Willie Parker has run for 131, 134 and 126 yards and has 4 rushing TDs. I like his matchup this week based on that history, but I don't expect the same results given what I see as improved Cincinnati defense and weaker Pittsburgh run-blocking.The same approach should be applied to Henry. Some decent history (other not so good history), but how much should 2006 results factor in to 2009 events?Starting him this week, he is a Steeler killer.
loompa17
Footballguy
I don't quite understand this logic. If one thinks Manningham > Henry in redraft, then wouldn't Manningham >>> Henry in dynasty? What makes Henry more valuable in dynasty as compared to the younger Manningham (same logic with Steve Smith, Sims-Walker).Casting Couch said:
Catbird
Footballguy
The waste is amazing. They spend hundred of thousands of dollars rounding up half a dozen or so of the top 200 football minds and evaluators on the planet, let them work with these guys day after day, year after year, and when the games are played the coaches have no idea who is good and should be playing for their teams. Its obvious that you can see far more from with an accassional channel flip from your couch. Unbelievable that they think Ochocinco, who had fooled them by merely producing as one of the 5 or 6 most productive WRs in football over the lest 7 years, so that they don't realize that Henry is the better player. If only they would tap into your storehouse of knowledge, I am sure they would be better than a fluke tipped pass from 2-0.RICK ROMO said:
jackdubl
Footballguy
Not to mention all those super bowls they've been contending for with all their great scouting talent. Hey, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think it's clear that Henry is far more dangerous a playmaker than Coles. You have to at least admit that. Just answering a hater post with a hater post here.I'm not sure the Bengals trust Henry enough to resign him after this contract year, so maybe they're moving on somewhat. Too early to tell.
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The Ref
Footballguy
Just the reason why I was thinking of scouping him up. He might end up in a Raven/Bear/etc Uni next year as the only real WR option.Plus I have #85 and I think he makes a psudo handcuff of sorts.
An interesting last player on the bench option in a keeper setup.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
If you're in a ppr league he shouldn't of been on your radar until way late if at all. I grabbed him in a non ppr league, bonus for long TDs and I'm fine waiting it out. The season is long and he already had a score. I predicted 7-10 TDs this year, and still think that's possible. All he does is catch TDs. I'd been happier if they were using him more, but it's the Bengals, nothing shocks me anymore with that team.
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
You mean he was projected for significantly more than 72-1440-8?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Yup
2 has become quite the nice WR3. Not really worth rostering yet but you dynasty types, especially PPR types might want to give him a look.Henry very well might prove very boom and bust this year. Cutting bait really depends on how deep your rosters go.-QG
