Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson (1 Viewer)

[fantasysharkctb]

This is not a fantasy poll, more of NFL team question.

This debate tickled my fancy when reading Peter King's 1st half all pro teams... (Not sure why I read peter king, but I digress) Anyways, he goes completely out of his way to say that AD is the best back in the league, although Chris Johnson makes his team as the #1 running back.

So, vote on who you would rather have on your favorite team as a running back. Factor in everything, blocking, running between the tackles, receiving ability, home run ability, and goal line ability.

(Yes I know some of you will come in here and say MJD or possibly S-Jax, Turner, or Ray Rice, but this if just between these two.)

2008 Stats:

CJ: 15 G, 251 carries, 1228 yards, 4.9 YPC, 9 TD. 43 catches, 260 yards, 6.0 YPC

AD: 16 G, 363 carries, 1760 yards, 4.8 YPC, 10 TD. 21 catches, 125 yards, 6.0 YPC

2009:

CJ: 8 G, 144 carries, 959 yards, 6.7 YPC, 6 TD. 21 catches, 162 yards, 7.7 YPC

AD: 8 G, 163 carries, 784 yards, 4.8 YPC, 9 TD. 19 catches, 189 yards, 9.9 YPC

 

[fantasysharkctb]

Not sure if any of you care, but here is the link to his awards:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ....html?eref=sihp

 

[Banger]

Hard to find a lot of faults between either back but probably against popular opinion I voted CJ. Power and speed versus super speed.

 

[EdwardCat]

CJ >>> Peterson. No way you can argue that Peterson is better. Johnson is tearing up defenses. Peterson has one TD of greater than 50 yards this year and rarely hits the 100 yard mark.

 

[Horses Mouth]

CJ >>> Peterson. No way you can argue that Peterson is better. Johnson is tearing up defenses. Peterson has one TD of greater than 50 yards this year and rarely hits the 100 yard mark.

Here kitty kitty. here kitty kitty....

 

[EdwardCat]

CJ >>> Peterson. No way you can argue that Peterson is better. Johnson is tearing up defenses. Peterson has one TD of greater than 50 yards this year and rarely hits the 100 yard mark.

Here kitty kitty. here kitty kitty....

That's about the best argument we can expect from you. Well done!

 

[fantasizing]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

 

[StrikeS2k]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

 

[fantasizing]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

 

[two_dollars]

Neither. Give me MJD any day of the week over these 2. Best RB in football = MJD.

 

[encaitar]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

There's a reason Favre is having his best season ever so far. It's because no one's left in the secondary to defend the passing game. They're all too concerned about AP.

 

[fantasysharkctb]

Neither. Give me MJD any day of the week over these 2. Best RB in football = MJD.

Did you read my post at all?

 

[strong]

still early in their careers and both are awesome, but...

as much as i like chris johnson, peterson is the better NFL back.

we've all seen johnson's blazing speed and the ability to just run away from guys, but we've seen peterson just brutalize three or four defenders on a single play, while still being one of the fastest backs in the league with great vision. i prefer that skill set. he's such a punishing back, that even while maintaining elite speed, his physicality wears down a defense more and makes the rest of the offensive players around him look better as the game wears on.

johnson, however, may stick around a little longer because he doesn't punish his body as much.

but the shelf-life for running backs is pretty short anyway, so i don't think that's a reason to select johnson. i think peterson will go on to have the better stats and win-loss record when it's all said and done.

 

[two_dollars]

Neither. Give me MJD any day of the week over these 2. Best RB in football = MJD.

Did you read my post at all?

Yep. The first part.If it's just between these 2 give me AP any day of the week.

 

[MCguidance]

Magic or Michael?

 

[strong]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

could you imagine peterson with young at qb? he'd be sick as well. running backs have always looked awesome with young behind the center.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

There's a reason Favre is having his best season ever so far. It's because no one's left in the secondary to defend the passing game. They're all too concerned about AP.

 

[basher]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

There's a reason Favre is having his best season ever so far. It's because no one's left in the secondary to defend the passing game. They're all too concerned about AP.

Exactly ... teams would rather gamble on letting Favre beat you then letting AP run wild.

 

[jurb26]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

There's a reason Favre is having his best season ever so far. It's because no one's left in the secondary to defend the passing game. They're all too concerned about AP.

Yeah, so are you saying teams aren't trying to stop CJ as much? I mean do you really think the likes of Collins/Young and the putrid Tenn WR corp are striking fear into opposing Ds enough for them to not stack the box? This is a moot point IMO. Any NFL team with a dominating running game is going to be the 1st focus of opposing Ds. Both ADP and CJ face it. At least ADP now has some weapons on the team other than him. Rice is stepping up in a huge way, Favre is clearly better than anything Tenn has and Harvin is probably more of a factor than any WR Tenn has as well. I'd also say Minn has the better oline.

 

[SayWhat?]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

CJ is capable of setting recrods any given week? As in, like the single game rushing record?

 

[sdsjr3]

I love CJ and the skills he possesses, but I have to say that I think DeAngelo is equally as talented. What makes DW so awesome in my opinion is when he hits the hole, his acceleration out of it and through the next line of defense is amazing. That and when he makes a cut in the open field he is still accelerating. I dunno, they're both awesome, as is Peterson. I'd take any of the 3 prolly and wouldn't complain one bit.

 

[Firekaps]

Magic or Michael?

Michael.And for the record LBJ over ADP. Love them both, but LBJ is electrifying.

 

[LittlePhatty]

CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

I don't think we'll see as much bust if Young keeps playing decent (no interceptions in his first two starts this year).CJ's touches have increased in the past two weeks, plus VY's threat to run keeps defenses a little more open.Edit: I voted for CJ. Yes, I'm a homer. Still a tough choice though.

 

[Sheriff66]

Awesome line - CJ

Weaker line - AP

 

[FUBAR]

Magic or Michael?

Michael.And for the record LBJ over ADP. Love them both, but LBJ is electrifying.

he was a lousy President.

 

[FUBAR]

I think Peterson is a bit more consistent week to week, and on occassion, explodes for 3 TD's. CJ on other hand is capable of setting records any given week, but is also a tad boom and bust. Of course, the boom is just sooo explosive....

You have to factor in the teams they play for. Put CJ on this Minny team and he might already have 2000 yards

Which begs the question, why isn't Peterson blowing up the league so far? I agree with you, can't even begin to imagine what CJ would be capable of with a Favre type passing game.

There's a reason Favre is having his best season ever so far. It's because no one's left in the secondary to defend the passing game. They're all too concerned about AP.

Yeah, so are you saying teams aren't trying to stop CJ as much? I mean do you really think the likes of Collins/Young and the putrid Tenn WR corp are striking fear into opposing Ds enough for them to not stack the box? This is a moot point IMO. Any NFL team with a dominating running game is going to be the 1st focus of opposing Ds. Both ADP and CJ face it. At least ADP now has some weapons on the team other than him. Rice is stepping up in a huge way, Favre is clearly better than anything Tenn has and Harvin is probably more of a factor than any WR Tenn has as well. I'd also say Minn has the better oline.

QB advantage MINWR advantage MINTE advantage MIN (although this is close)OL advantage MIN (close too)I'd love to see what CJ would do if VY can live up to his potential and Britt is as good as we hope.

 

[Banger]

Awesome line - CJWeaker line - AP

Not too sure about that. Not saying that Tenn is bad but Minn has a very good line. Even if that's not the case Minn is better in every supporting aspect...QB, WR/TE, and defense.

 

[Sheriff66]

Awesome line - CJWeaker line - AP

Not too sure about that. Not saying that Tenn is bad but Minn has a very good line. Even if that's not the case Minn is better in every supporting aspect...QB, WR/TE, and defense.

What I'm saying is if my team has an awesome line and I could pick either one, I'm taking CJ, if my team has an weaker line and I could pick either one, I'm taking AP.

 

[encaitar]

Awesome line - CJWeaker line - AP

Not too sure about that. Not saying that Tenn is bad but Minn has a very good line. Even if that's not the case Minn is better in every supporting aspect...QB, WR/TE, and defense.

You know, I hear all the time how Minnesota's O line is this great unstoppable force, but the reality is that is a bunch of BS. Tennessee returned every starter for their offensive line from last year and it is a great unit. They have struggled a bit in pass protection, but their run blocking is loads better than Minnesota's right now.Minnesota has 2 new starters to their line, including the most important position(center). Loadholt looks to have great potential and may develop into one of the better RTs in the league, but he does miss key blocks and has a lot of work to do on his footwork. Sullivan isn't a starter quality center yet. He routinely gets beat by the opposing NTs and he struggles in calling the correct blocking schemes. Herrera is an average RG. Hutchinson is an all-pro, no quesiton, but he's been limited with a back injury since week 3. McKinnie is good, no question.Basically the idea that AP has this unbelievable Oline in front of him is stupid. Everyone looks back at 2007 and thinks WOW!, that line is ridiculous. The truth is, they lost a ProBowl center and are starting two first year starters and it has showed. I don't know any other back in the league that gets hit in the backfield as often as Peterson. Add in the constant run blitzes and it's outstanding for him to be 3rd in the league in rushing. So stop with the "he has the best oline in the league" BS because it isn't true.

 

[mystykoekaki]

Peterson all the way. Not even close.

 

[fantasizing]

Peterson all the way. Not even close.

Not even close ?? AP has 163 carries for 784 yards and 9 TDs.CJ has 144 carries for 959 yards and 6 TDs.Yes, you are correct. It's very clear that Peterson is much better than CJ. The statistics don't lie............

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Awesome line - CJWeaker line - AP

Not too sure about that. Not saying that Tenn is bad but Minn has a very good line. Even if that's not the case Minn is better in every supporting aspect...QB, WR/TE, and defense.

You know, I hear all the time how Minnesota's O line is this great unstoppable force, but the reality is that is a bunch of BS. Tennessee returned every starter for their offensive line from last year and it is a great unit. They have struggled a bit in pass protection, but their run blocking is loads better than Minnesota's right now.Minnesota has 2 new starters to their line, including the most important position(center). Loadholt looks to have great potential and may develop into one of the better RTs in the league, but he does miss key blocks and has a lot of work to do on his footwork. Sullivan isn't a starter quality center yet. He routinely gets beat by the opposing NTs and he struggles in calling the correct blocking schemes. Herrera is an average RG. Hutchinson is an all-pro, no quesiton, but he's been limited with a back injury since week 3. McKinnie is good, no question.Basically the idea that AP has this unbelievable Oline in front of him is stupid. Everyone looks back at 2007 and thinks WOW!, that line is ridiculous. The truth is, they lost a ProBowl center and are starting two first year starters and it has showed. I don't know any other back in the league that gets hit in the backfield as often as Peterson. Add in the constant run blitzes and it's outstanding for him to be 3rd in the league in rushing. So stop with the "he has the best oline in the league" BS because it isn't true.

Thank goodness someone finally said it. As good as the left side of Minnesota's line is in Madden, the line really has done an awful job opening up running lanes this year. Whether it's defenses putting 15 guys in the box, or the line just not gelling I'm not sure, but there just aren't many running lanes in Minnesota this year and it's pretty surprising that Peterson is doing as well as he is, really. Chester Taylor is averaging 2.7ypc behind that same line this year.

 

[two_dollars]

Peterson all the way. Not even close.

Not even close ?? AP has 163 carries for 784 yards and 9 TDs.

CJ has 144 carries for 959 yards and 6 TDs.

Yes, you are correct. It's very clear that Peterson is much better than CJ. The statistics don't lie............

No, he's right, it really isn't close. I'm not judging them by just 8 games. CJ only has 3 good games out of 8 this year anyway. The rest have been pretty sub par. People say "he can break records on any given day." Who's record are they talking about? Maybe the one AP already holds? Give me AP on a sweep, give me AP on a draw, give me AP on 3rd and 2.

 

[Stitch]

Give me Chris Johnson All Day!!

 

[fantasysharkctb]

Peterson all the way. Not even close.

Not even close ?? AP has 163 carries for 784 yards and 9 TDs.

CJ has 144 carries for 959 yards and 6 TDs.

Yes, you are correct. It's very clear that Peterson is much better than CJ. The statistics don't lie............

No, he's right, it really isn't close. I'm not judging them by just 8 games. CJ only has 3 good games out of 8 this year anyway. The rest have been pretty sub par. People say "he can break records on any given day." Who's record are they talking about? Maybe the one AP already holds? Give me AP on a sweep, give me AP on a draw, give me AP on 3rd and 2.

Three good games out of 8? Have you lost your mind? CJ has averaged over 4 YPC or higher in every game this year besides 2. I guess all those games are just "pretty sub par" as you would say.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Ap and I don't think it's really that close. AP is a freak of nature. The stats lie here, as Taylor takes many more carries/tds/rec's than, lol who is the other rb in ten again. Oh that's right. Mclendale white.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Awesome line - CJWeaker line - AP

Not too sure about that. Not saying that Tenn is bad but Minn has a very good line. Even if that's not the case Minn is better in every supporting aspect...QB, WR/TE, and defense.

You know, I hear all the time how Minnesota's O line is this great unstoppable force, but the reality is that is a bunch of BS. Tennessee returned every starter for their offensive line from last year and it is a great unit. They have struggled a bit in pass protection, but their run blocking is loads better than Minnesota's right now.Minnesota has 2 new starters to their line, including the most important position(center). Loadholt looks to have great potential and may develop into one of the better RTs in the league, but he does miss key blocks and has a lot of work to do on his footwork. Sullivan isn't a starter quality center yet. He routinely gets beat by the opposing NTs and he struggles in calling the correct blocking schemes. Herrera is an average RG. Hutchinson is an all-pro, no quesiton, but he's been limited with a back injury since week 3. McKinnie is good, no question.Basically the idea that AP has this unbelievable Oline in front of him is stupid. Everyone looks back at 2007 and thinks WOW!, that line is ridiculous. The truth is, they lost a ProBowl center and are starting two first year starters and it has showed. I don't know any other back in the league that gets hit in the backfield as often as Peterson. Add in the constant run blitzes and it's outstanding for him to be 3rd in the league in rushing. So stop with the "he has the best oline in the league" BS because it isn't true.

 

[fantasizing]

Peterson all the way. Not even close.

Not even close ?? AP has 163 carries for 784 yards and 9 TDs.

CJ has 144 carries for 959 yards and 6 TDs.

Yes, you are correct. It's very clear that Peterson is much better than CJ. The statistics don't lie............

No, he's right, it really isn't close. I'm not judging them by just 8 games. CJ only has 3 good games out of 8 this year anyway. The rest have been pretty sub par. People say "he can break records on any given day." Who's record are they talking about? Maybe the one AP already holds? Give me AP on a sweep, give me AP on a draw, give me AP on 3rd and 2.

I'm not implying that CJ is better than Peterson, but to make a statement that it's "not even close" is absolutely irrational. The statistics tell the story, and CJ's 6.7 ypc through 8 games is the highest ever this far into the season since 1970. CJ and Peterson are comparable, of similar talent and skill. You can argue which one is better till you turn blue, but to say it's not even close is illogical based on the performance figures.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

CJ >>> Peterson. No way you can argue that Peterson is better. Johnson is tearing up defenses. Peterson has one TD of greater than 50 yards this year and rarely hits the 100 yard mark.

good to see your reading comprehension skills are up to par. This was a NFL NOT FF question. But then again you benched drew brees after week 3 right, so either way your analysis is entirely #'s based?

 

[runner06]

Went Chris Johnson. He's more explosive, a better receiver, and fumbles less. He might not be as strong on the goal line, but it's not that hard to find a complementary back for that role.

(If this were about fantasy football, it'd be AP without a doubt)

 

[flranger]

I'm not implying that CJ is better than Peterson, but to make a statement that it's "not even close" is absolutely irrational. The statistics tell the story, and CJ's 6.7 ypc through 8 games is the highest ever this far into the season since 1970. CJ and Peterson are comparable, of similar talent and skill. You can argue which one is better till you turn blue, but to say it's not even close is illogical based on the performance figures.

Uh, isn't ADP third just barely behind him at like 6.5?Seriously folks, if this question was asked two weeks ago the results would have been 90/10 for ADP. I think we are seeing an overreaction to two back to back big weeks.

 

[cubbie5150]

I voted ADP because, IMO, he's more of a sustaining-type runner than CJ. Peterson can get the tough yardage as well as take it to the house any given play. They're both great, but if I were starting a team, the first RB I'd take is ADP.

 

[bryhamm]

I voted for both ... well, because you let me

 

[Instinctive]

Peterson's actually becoming a pretty good receiver and pass blocker in his own right, and if I need a guy to get me a first down of any distance and i have to run it...AD is the guy I trust to fight all the way there.

FWIW, this is how I'd rank my top 5:

AD

SJax

CJ4.24

MJD

Hmm....after that I think it's tough. I'll go with Ronnie Brown, but I like Barber and Turner here too.

 

[FUBAR]

Peterson's actually becoming a pretty good receiver and pass blocker in his own right, and if I need a guy to get me a first down of any distance and i have to run it...AD is the guy I trust to fight all the way there.FWIW, this is how I'd rank my top 5:ADSJaxCJ4.24MJDHmm....after that I think it's tough. I'll go with Ronnie Brown, but I like Barber and Turner here too.

I'll take CJ and MJD over SJax, other than that I think you're about right.as for #5, I think it completely depends on what you want in your back. Turner is a great fit in Atlanta IMO with Roddy, Gonzo and a few other decent receivers on the team. I probably take Ray Rice #5 right now, but after the top 4, #5-10 is pretty easily debatable - Gore, Rice, Brown, Turner, DWill, Mendenhall is starting to look like he belongs up here.

 

[Dancing Bear]

I'm taking CJ over AD.

In fact, AD is a disappointment to me this year. With the O-Line that he has and the supposed new balance of the Offense due to the arrival of a "real" QB to throw the ball, I don't see the corresponding results.

Steven Jackson has crap for an O-Line, crap for any form of passing game to take away the 8-man fronts, crap for sustained drives, etc., and he has the same performance as AD.

To me you should be asking is it CJ vs Steven Jackson. Then I probably could not pick a preferred RB.

 

[Instinctive]

I'm taking CJ over AD.

In fact, AD is a disappointment to me this year. With the O-Line that he has and the supposed new balance of the Offense due to the arrival of a "real" QB to throw the ball, I don't see the corresponding results.

Steven Jackson has crap for an O-Line, crap for any form of passing game to take away the 8-man fronts, crap for sustained drives, etc., and he has the same performance as AD.

To me you should be asking is it CJ vs Steven Jackson. Then I probably could not pick a preferred RB.

You know that Minny is stating multiple rookies on OLine and lost their pro bowl center? And the capable Chester Taylor has 2.7 yp behind the same line?

 

[Dancing Bear]

You know that Minny is stating multiple rookies on OLine and lost their pro bowl center? And the capable Chester Taylor has 2.7 yp behind the same line?

Perhaps you are looking at a different O-Line than the one that is playing for the Vikings ...LT - Loadholt [1st year, 1st with the Vikings, 1st year as the Starter]LG - Herrera [6th year, 6th with the Vikings, 3rd year as the Starter]C - Sullivan [2nd year, 2nd with the Vikings, 2nd year as the Starter]RG - Hutchinson [9th year, 4th with the Vikings, 9th year as the Starter]RT - McKinnie [8th year, 8th with the Vikings, 8th year as the Starter]One new guy on the line this year, and he is not playing as a liability for any stretch of the imagination. Favre has only been sacked 18 times with a rookie LT!Try again Instinctive ...

 

[Moniker]

I'm not implying that CJ is better than Peterson, but to make a statement that it's "not even close" is absolutely irrational. The statistics tell the story, and CJ's 6.7 ypc through 8 games is the highest ever this far into the season since 1970. CJ and Peterson are comparable, of similar talent and skill. You can argue which one is better till you turn blue, but to say it's not even close is illogical based on the performance figures.

Uh, isn't ADP third just barely behind him at like 6.5?Seriously folks, if this question was asked two weeks ago the results would have been 90/10 for ADP. I think we are seeing an overreaction to two back to back big weeks.

Unfortunately, that's the way it's been in here this year.CJ breaks a couple of long runs and all of a sudden he's better than Peterson? For real?

Crazy talk.

 

[basher]

You know that Minny is stating multiple rookies on OLine and lost their pro bowl center? And the capable Chester Taylor has 2.7 yp behind the same line?

Perhaps you are looking at a different O-Line than the one that is playing for the Vikings ...LT - Loadholt [1st year, 1st with the Vikings, 1st year as the Starter]

LG - Herrera [6th year, 6th with the Vikings, 3rd year as the Starter]

C - Sullivan [2nd year, 2nd with the Vikings, 2nd year as the Starter]

RG - Hutchinson [9th year, 4th with the Vikings, 9th year as the Starter]

RT - McKinnie [8th year, 8th with the Vikings, 8th year as the Starter]

One new guy on the line this year, and he is not playing as a liability for any stretch of the imagination. Favre has only been sacked 18 times with a rookie LT!

Try again Instinctive ...

Matt Birk started all 16 games at Center last season