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[PhantomJB]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

It seemed to me like Fisher was determined to show he didn't need VY and could win with Rusty. Whoops.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

Aberration is actually the word that I'd use to describe it. He's gotta be in the lineup down the stretch, especially with the cake schedule.

 

[benm3218]

In cases like this, I go with - what would make me feel dumber.

Would I feel dumber if I sat him and he got 120 and 1TD or would I feel dumber if I played him and he got 50 yards.

I'd feel much dumber to sit him and have him go off. You just play him and hope he does good. You can't sit him now.

 

[HustleBlood]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

 

[Steed]

I've seen some people with Hillis and Foster asking if they should sit him. If those are you're options, then yes, but I wouldn't sit him for anyone else.

This game was an aberration. Buy low for when Collins comes back.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

He's not saying they're on the ww. He said they were ww pickups. Which they were. Next time, try being less eager to jump into a thread and make a smartass comment and be more eager to contribute something that is worth a damn.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Sit him and he'll cost you a win. He is entitled to a few bad games during the season. He just got all of his bad games out of his system yesterday.

 

[emge]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

He's not saying they're on the ww. He said they were ww pickups. Which they were. Next time, try being less eager to jump into a thread and make a smartass comment and be more eager to contribute something that is worth a damn.

perhaps this could help him:

http://tinyurl.com/2atcplg

 

[PhantomJB]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

He's not saying they're on the ww. He said they were ww pickups. Which they were. Next time, try being less eager to jump into a thread and make a smartass comment and be more eager to contribute something that is worth a damn.

Yes. This is what I meant. There are a lot of currently starting RB's who were on the WW earlier in the season who were picked up and who's value may be equal to / greater than CJ going forward. That is the debate in terms of alternatives.I realize that CJ has had "aberrations" in the past, but what I'm challenging is that a) yesterday was the perfect situation for Fisher to game plan around CJ, and he didn't and b) CJ's best games have come with VY at QB and that is not happening anymore this year.

 

[HustleBlood]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

He's not saying they're on the ww. He said they were ww pickups. Which they were. Next time, try being less eager to jump into a thread and make a smartass comment and be more eager to contribute something that is worth a damn.

perhaps this could help him:

http://tinyurl.com/2atcplg

Clutch. Thanks now i have to clean my screen cause i spit coffee all over it laughing

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I realize that CJ has had "aberrations" in the past, but what I'm challenging is that a) yesterday was the perfect situation for Fisher to game plan around CJ, and he didn't and b) CJ's best games have come with VY at QB and that is not happening anymore this year.

I really think it's nothing to worry about. Kerry Collins will be back in 1 or 2 weeks. I think the OC was distracted with his cancer news, and Fisher was also trying to show he could pass all over the awful defense that is the Texans without Vince Young. When Kerry returns things should go back to semi-normal. LBJ getting 7 carries is absolutely inexcusable.

 

[RamMan]

I've had CJ on my roster since drafting him as a rookie (we keep 1 each year) and I can honestly say that I'm worried.

1) I don't like the way Fisher is using him this season. CJ hardly ever gets any checkdowns, which was a BIG part of his game and success last year. Not sure why they have gone away from this but they seem to have no problem checking down to Ringer when he is in. It's a total mystery to me why you wouldnt want to get a player with CJ's skill set into space - especially when he excelled at it last season.

2) With VY out of the picture, there is simply more defensive attention on CJ. 8 or even 9 in the box is the norm. And all Fisher and Heimedinger seem to call for CJ is a run up the middle - not CJ's strength in the best of circumstances. I can see calling those plays once in a while to keep defenses honest, but it seems to me that these are the majority of plays called for CJ.

3) I don't know what's wrong with the O-line, but they just don't seem to be opening holes the past few games. I'm not a Titan homer or fan, so perhpas there are personnel issues or injuries I'm unaware of, but the line does not seem as effective as they were last year or even earlier this year.

4) The team seems to be in total disarray - the loss yesterday was an embarrasment. As much as I hate to say it I'm worried that the Titans have given up on the season and on Fisher. If it's the case (and I hope I'm worng) that doesn't bode well for CJ going forward.

I'm going to leave CJ in my lineup next week at home vs JAX and see what kind of vibe I get from his game (and the Titans in general) and then make some decisions. I don't have great replacement options which makes my decision a bit easier, but If I had a Charles or a McCoy or even a Tolbert on the pine right now I'd be very tempted.

 

[skillz]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal.

I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

 

[Superdbs]

I've had CJ on my roster since drafting him as a rookie (we keep 1 each year) and I can honestly say that I'm worried. 1) I don't like the way Fisher is using him this season. CJ hardly ever gets any checkdowns, which was a BIG part of his game and success last year. Not sure why they have gone away from this but they seem to have no problem checking down to Ringer when he is in. It's a total mystery to me why you wouldnt want to get a player with CJ's skill set into space - especially when he excelled at it last season. 2) With VY out of the picture, there is simply more defensive attention on CJ. 8 or even 9 in the box is the norm. And all Fisher and Heimedinger seem to call for CJ is a run up the middle - not CJ's strength in the best of circumstances. I can see calling those plays once in a while to keep defenses honest, but it seems to me that these are the majority of plays called for CJ.3) I don't know what's wrong with the O-line, but they just don't seem to be opening holes the past few games. I'm not a Titan homer or fan, so perhpas there are personnel issues or injuries I'm unaware of, but the line does not seem as effective as they were last year or even earlier this year. 4) The team seems to be in total disarray - the loss yesterday was an embarrasment. As much as I hate to say it I'm worried that the Titans have given up on the season and on Fisher. If it's the case (and I hope I'm worng) that doesn't bode well for CJ going forward. I'm going to leave CJ in my lineup next week at home vs JAX and see what kind of vibe I get from his game (and the Titans in general) and then make some decisions. I don't have great replacement options which makes my decision a bit easier, but If I had a Charles or a McCoy or even a Tolbert on the pine right now I'd be very tempted.

Agree on all counts. Hate the way they're using him, just running him into the teeth of the defense, no imagination or playing to his strengths. No screen passes or swings in the flat. Line can't open consistent holes, seems like they really miss Kevin Mawae. Passing game can't keep people off him. Other than that, life's great for us CJ owners

 

[Mello]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal.

I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

I thought it was VERY creative of Fisher to put the game in the hands of his 10th string QB while giving his best player 7 total touches. I'm benching him for Mendenhall and McCoy until Collins is the starter. I'll feel more stupid leaving a starter I'm more confident will at least give me 10ish pts on the bench than I will having CJ blow up on my bench.

 

[DocHolliday]

Maybe this is Fisher's way of making some noise as he is ushered out the door at the end of the season. He and the Titan's owner are going at it. This is a good thing for Johnson. That O is predictable.

 

[Shutout]

The thing I noticed yesterday was I expected him to at least be involved in the passing game. I don't watch a lot of Titans games but it seems like something is missing in the threat of him (seems like before when I watched EVERYTHING went through him on offense).

With that being said, I don't know how many CJ owners would have the luxury of sitting him. Barring a matchup against the Steelers or Jets or Ravens, I would probably start him if I had him thinking he is always, at least, a threat to sniff out one huge play a week and that could be enough.

 

[Shutout]

Maybe this is Fisher's way of making some noise as he is ushered out the door at the end of the season. He and the Titan's owner are going at it. This is a good thing for Johnson. That O is predictable.

I don't know how the titans losing Fisher could be a good thing at any level. I know we're talking FF vs. real life but a lot of unseen things could be a lot worse without a coach like fisher.

 

[Mello]

Maybe this is Fisher's way of making some noise as he is ushered out the door at the end of the season. He and the Titan's owner are going at it. This is a good thing for Johnson. That O is predictable.

I don't know how the titans losing Fisher could be a good thing at any level. I know we're talking FF vs. real life but a lot of unseen things could be a lot worse without a coach like fisher.

See Broncos / McDaniels.

 

[Todem]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal. I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

You mean like his amazing season last year on this team with Fisher as the coach? You think they just forgot how to use him in one year?

The team sucked yesterday. I have concerns. My concern is this team is mailing it in now and Fisher may have lost the locker room with the VY debacle.

My concern is not CJ at all. We all know he is a world class talent. He may have one more rough week....then I expect him to blow up again.

Getting only 7 touches yesterday was a joke. And it was coaching. Letting that stiff throw the ball at QB was amazing to watch. He was awful and has no business playing in the NFL...but that is all they had yesterday.

I hope CJ can turn it around or a bunch of my teams are in big trouble.

Gotta love FF.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Matchup play only?

Benchable dependent on QB situation?

Always start your studs?

He is the core of so many FF teams and yesterday's performance revealed so many structural problems with the Titans that I felt a separate thread was warranted.

His schedule in the next three weeks (@ home vs. JAX, INDY, HOU) would normally have owners salivating, but 5 yards from a #1 draft choice cannot be chalked up to being an aberration.

A great, great runner, but his best games (both last year and this year) have come with Vince Young at the helm. He also has a tendency to boom / bust and consistency down the FF stretch will be important.

It will take some cojones to sit him for WW pickups like Blount, Tolbert, B. Jackson, etc., but is that where we're at with him?

dude if blount tolbert bjax are available in your league, can i join next year?

He's not saying they're on the ww. He said they were ww pickups. Which they were. Next time, try being less eager to jump into a thread and make a smartass comment and be more eager to contribute something that is worth a damn.

why dont you try rolling around in barb wire with magic johnson, there chizzletitsbut yes i am sorry ThreadMaster, my jokes are bad.

Keep it focused on the player. Thanks.J

 

[skillz]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal. I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

You mean like his amazing season last year on this team with Fisher as the coach? You think they just forgot how to use him in one year?

Yes - how they are using him this year is not even close to how he was used last year. Less dump offs, and screens to him. Last year they also used the Vince Young option read, and option play with him and Vince. Those plays were apparently put in the trash bin this year because I haven't seen them. Granted the offensive line play isn't on par with last year, but that is why you try to keep the defense off balance with misdirection and other types of plays instead of simply giving CJ the ball and telling him to run directly into the backs of his offensive line that is having problems blocking.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

screw the back and forth. WTH happened yesterday?

 

[tietzjd]

screw the back and forth. WTH happened yesterday?

Rookie QB= 9+ Men in the box?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

screw the back and forth. WTH happened yesterday?

Rookie QB= 9+ Men in the box?

+ only 7 carries as Fisher attempted to burn the terrible Texans passing defense with the beast that is Rusty Smith.

 

[PhantomJB]

screw the back and forth. WTH happened yesterday?

In short, 11 runs and 31 passes with a QB who is worse than Drew Stanton.The game yesterday was eerily similar to 2009 Carolina, where John Fox had stud RB's, a good OL and a QB (Delhomme) who was not NFL-caliber. Instead of building the game plan around the obvious strength (run game w/ CJ plus play-action passes), the HC/OC instead insisted on calling plays that the QB simply could not execute.Drive 1pass (sack)run CJpass (inc)puntDrive 2run CJpasspasspuntDrive 3run CJpass (INT)Drive 4run Ringerrun Ringerrun RingerpasspasspasspasspuntAt this point it is the 2nd quarter, the score is only 7-0 and the play distribution is 9 pass, 3 CJ runs, 3 Ringer runs. Some of that was down-distance driven, but some was either by design or not committing to the run.Maybe Fisher will change the play-calling now that he sees how limited Rusty Smith really is. But if they continue to game plan as if Smith is NFL-caliber, then CJ owners should lower their expectations considerably, IMO.

 

[Hjelle9]

I traded him and Amedola for Jamaal Charles Percy Harvin and Nate Burleson two weeks ago. Dude was jumpin up and down about havin AP and CJ on the same squad....Having both cost him a huge game this week as he had Fred Jackson, Felix Jones, Mike Goodson on the bench. You gotta go with WW options at this point, it's just too easy to shut down such a one dimensional attack. No creativity from the play calling and Jeff Fisher is just a joke.

 

[dickey moe]

How many other supposed studs have put up 0 or 1 pt games this year? The answer -- lots.

You don't bench unarguably one of the top 3 backs in the league for this reason. What do you think is more likely for CJ next week -- another 1 pt game or a 20 pt game?

 

[PhantomJB]

How many other supposed studs have put up 0 or 1 pt games this year? The answer -- lots.You don't bench unarguably one of the top 3 backs in the league for this reason. What do you think is more likely for CJ next week -- another 1 pt game or a 20 pt game?

With all due respect, this type of binary "sit / start" conclusion is way too simplistic, IMO.One of the widely held axioms of FF is that value = talent * situation. The premise of the thread is to ask the question whether the HOU game has revealed that CJ's value has fallen signficantly due to the QB situation, loss of OC Heimerdinger, Fisher on the hot seat, team morale potentially deteriorating, etc.If so, then he should be viewed not as the must-start uberstud he was up until a few weeks ago, and more like guys like Larry Fitzgerald, maybe Brandon Marshall and Deangelo Williams (pre injury), whose talent is unquestioned but whose situation has deteriorated such that their value falls into tiers where other options might be available.

 

[dickey moe]

How many other supposed studs have put up 0 or 1 pt games this year? The answer -- lots.You don't bench unarguably one of the top 3 backs in the league for this reason. What do you think is more likely for CJ next week -- another 1 pt game or a 20 pt game?

With all due respect, this type of binary "sit / start" conclusion is way too simplistic, IMO.One of the widely held axioms of FF is that value = talent * situation. The premise of the thread is to ask the question whether the HOU game has revealed that CJ's value has fallen signficantly due to the QB situation, loss of OC Heimerdinger, Fisher on the hot seat, team morale potentially deteriorating, etc.If so, then he should be viewed not as the must-start uberstud he was up until a few weeks ago, and more like guys like Larry Fitzgerald, maybe Brandon Marshall and Deangelo Williams (pre injury), whose talent is unquestioned but whose situation has deteriorated such that their value falls into tiers where other options might be available.

Depends on how far is the fall. I don't think he falls below RB2/3 territory, but we'll see. I wouldn't sit him if I owned him.

 

[Mello]

Anyone have any better read on CJ at this point? If he had been given 15-20 rushes last game and just got shut down, I wouldn't be stressing as much but they didn't even try to use him. Was HOU just stacking 9 in the box and daring them to throw? Do you expect JAX to do the same thing this week?

 

[howo5]

Don't give up on CJ yet, with Collins returning and maybe Britt the offense could explode after their embarrassing performance

 

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Don't give up on CJ yet, with Collins returning and maybe Britt the offense could explode after their embarrassing performance

I don't really need him till week 15 (Thanks to a bye). I'm hoping they've got it sorted out by then (and Collins isn't hurt again )HOU / KC aren't cakewalks for 15/16 but I think he'll be able to get his assuming Collins is under center.

 

[skillz]

Anyone have any better read on CJ at this point? If he had been given 15-20 rushes last game and just got shut down, I wouldn't be stressing as much but they didn't even try to use him. Was HOU just stacking 9 in the box and daring them to throw? Do you expect JAX to do the same thing this week?

I think it all hinges on whether Collins starts. If he does, there is enough of a threat in the passing game to free things up for CJ. If not, I would expect Jax to load up the box as Houston did since Rusty is terrible and, if that happens, I don't expect much from CJ even if he gets more carries.

 

[PhantomJB]

FBG has him at RB#9 in PPR rankings, his lowest of the year. At home against JAX 20th ranked run D giving up 4th most rush TD's. Seems expectations are beginning to be lowered across the board so this upcoming game should be telling.

 

[Mello]

Thanks for the feedback all. I'm basically on the same page. Things should be better if Collins is back. Signs for that look good so far. Here's hoping Fisher regains a little of his sanity this week and runs the ball.

 

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Anyone have any better read on CJ at this point? If he had been given 15-20 rushes last game and just got shut down, I wouldn't be stressing as much but they didn't even try to use him. Was HOU just stacking 9 in the box and daring them to throw? Do you expect JAX to do the same thing this week?

I think it all hinges on whether Collins starts. If he does, there is enough of a threat in the passing game to free things up for CJ. If not, I would expect Jax to load up the box as Houston did since Rusty is terrible and, if that happens, I don't expect much from CJ even if he gets more carries.

IMO I would LOVE to see Fisher show a little creativity and line up CJ as a WR in some 3-4 wide sets. Stuff like Moss wide right, and CJ wide left with Washington and Gage....etc.

 

[RamMan]

So, if Rusty the Clown is starting at QB, who would you consider benching CJK2 for? A McCoy/Forte type? Knowshon? Tolbert?

 

[faulkfan]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal. I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

You might not want to use Andy Reid as an example of a coach who knows how to use a RB. He overlooks McCoy all the time. Even now it is all Vick. If Vick isn't passing he is running. McCoy has done well, but Reid could be using him more and chooses not to.

 

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So, if Rusty the Clown is starting at QB, who would you consider benching CJK2 for? A McCoy/Forte type? Knowshon? Tolbert?

Hell, I'll bench him for Frank Gore if Rusty's starting.

 

[Warrior]

How many other supposed studs have put up 0 or 1 pt games this year? The answer -- lots.You don't bench unarguably one of the top 3 backs in the league for this reason. What do you think is more likely for CJ next week -- another 1 pt game or a 20 pt game?

With all due respect, this type of binary "sit / start" conclusion is way too simplistic, IMO.One of the widely held axioms of FF is that value = talent * situation.

So the "sit/start" conclusion is way too simplistic...But "Talent * situation = value" isn't? You're over-thinking, plain and simple. And it would come back to bite you in a huge way.

 

[Warrior]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal. I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

You might not want to use Andy Reid as an example of a coach who knows how to use a RB. He overlooks McCoy all the time. Even now it is all Vick. If Vick isn't passing he is running. McCoy has done well, but Reid could be using him more and chooses not to.

Yet they keep winning. Baffling.

 

[skillz]

Reminds me of Barry Sanders. World class talent but stuck in a bad situation. Fisher has no offensive creativity. Put him on a team with Andy Reid or Martz calling plays to get him involved in screens and the passing game and he'd be unreal. I am sticking with him the rest of the season but am not expecting much unless Collins comes back. Have him as a keeper and won't give him up but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the offseason with Fisher and Vince. There may be a new coach in Tenn next year that changes the offensive dynamic of that team.

You might not want to use Andy Reid as an example of a coach who knows how to use a RB. He overlooks McCoy all the time. Even now it is all Vick. If Vick isn't passing he is running. McCoy has done well, but Reid could be using him more and chooses not to.

That Westbrook guy was pretty good. Reid seems to be using McCoy a lot better vs. Houston than Tenn did too. I think McCoy already has more touches than CJ did last week.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Anyone have any better read on CJ at this point? If he had been given 15-20 rushes last game and just got shut down, I wouldn't be stressing as much but they didn't even try to use him. Was HOU just stacking 9 in the box and daring them to throw? Do you expect JAX to do the same thing this week?

I think it all hinges on whether Collins starts. If he does, there is enough of a threat in the passing game to free things up for CJ. If not, I would expect Jax to load up the box as Houston did since Rusty is terrible and, if that happens, I don't expect much from CJ even if he gets more carries.

IMO I would LOVE to see Fisher show a little creativity and line up CJ as a WR in some 3-4 wide sets. Stuff like Moss wide right, and CJ wide left with Washington and Gage....etc.

CJ isn't a good receiver. He's explosive and can create opportunities in space....but he just isn't good at locating the ball and hauling it in.

 

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CJ isn't a good receiver. He's explosive and can create opportunities in space....but he just isn't good at locating the ball and hauling it in.

He's caught 27 passes on 37 targets for 73% reception rate. Gore 64%SJax 70%DJax 55%LT2 66%KFaulk 60%ADP 69%Need I go on?

 

[PhantomJB]

How many other supposed studs have put up 0 or 1 pt games this year? The answer -- lots.You don't bench unarguably one of the top 3 backs in the league for this reason. What do you think is more likely for CJ next week -- another 1 pt game or a 20 pt game?

With all due respect, this type of binary "sit / start" conclusion is way too simplistic, IMO.One of the widely held axioms of FF is that value = talent * situation.

So the "sit/start" conclusion is way too simplistic...But "Talent * situation = value" isn't? You're over-thinking, plain and simple. And it would come back to bite you in a huge way.

Here's some more overthinking / oversimplifying for you...One game = flukeTwo games = trendCJ is an RB2 / Flex for rest of year. Nice matchups next two games against Indy and HOU, unless considering Run D SOS is also overthinking.

 

[gotexansgo]

The Titans just suck plain and simple...the fact that CJ only had 15 touches is crazy, he is the only thing that team has.

 

[stp-d]

I love seeing CJ3 suck, it has nothing to do with the fact i don't own him in any of my 7 leagues

 

[Alex P Keaton]

CJ isn't a good receiver. He's explosive and can create opportunities in space....but he just isn't good at locating the ball and hauling it in.

He's caught 27 passes on 37 targets for 73% reception rate. Gore 64%SJax 70%DJax 55%LT2 66%KFaulk 60%ADP 69%Need I go on?

You can quote reception rate stats all day. It's widely acknowledged - even by the Titans staff - that CJ isn't great at catching the ball. He isn't natural at it. Use Google, it will help you find articles saying the same thing. I'd do it for you, but frankly I'm too lazy to look up something I already know.