Chris Kluwe explains gay marriage to Matt Birk (1 Viewer)

[squistion]

Kluwe on Olbermann last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bh1kghIuh0&feature=youtu.be

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Yeah, aside for the Zlatan Ibrahimovich/80s action movie villain haircut, I thought Kluwe came across pretty reasonable last night. More reasonable than when he writes for Deadspin.

With that said, I think Olbermann's suggestion that he had a wrongful termination suit felt pretty strained to me.

 

[Zow]

Yeah, aside for the Zlatan Ibrahimovich/80s action movie villain haircut, I thought Kluwe came across pretty reasonable last night. More reasonable than when he writes for Deadspin.

With that said, I think Olbermann's suggestion that he had a wrongful termination suit felt pretty strained to me.

 

[fatness]

Yeah, aside for the Zlatan Ibrahimovich/80s action movie villain haircut, I thought Kluwe came across pretty reasonable last night. More reasonable than when he writes for Deadspin.

With that said, I think Olbermann's suggestion that he had a wrongful termination suit felt pretty strained to me.

Yeah, I think Kluwe did enough in his writing to prevent a suit like that from ever succeeding.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Yeah, aside for the Zlatan Ibrahimovich/80s action movie villain haircut, I thought Kluwe came across pretty reasonable last night. More reasonable than when he writes for Deadspin.

With that said, I think Olbermann's suggestion that he had a wrongful termination suit felt pretty strained to me.

Yeah, I think Kluwe did enough in his writing to prevent a suit like that from ever succeeding.

Well, the writing is pretty much irrelevant.

I think Olbermann might have been trying to suggest he had a defamation action, but for what? Even if they fired him because he advocated gay marriage (which the Vikings, for better or worse, have the right to do under the law) and then lied and said that he was released for performance reasons, where's the defamation?

The only possible legal action I can think of is if the Vikings contacted other teams and told them that Kluwe was a bad apple in the locker room or something. That might be actionable under some hypothetical perfect set of facts.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Vikings suspend coach Mike Priefer for 3 games after investigation confirms Chris Kluwe's claims

 

[Widbil83]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft

@ChrisWarcraft: Oooh, shall we talk about the time two very well known Vikings players were caught in a compromising situation with an underage girl?

@ChrisWarcraft: Bet you didn't hear about that one in the news. We can do this all day, Vikings. Special teams hears *everything*.

 

[Ted Mullins]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft

@ChrisWarcraft: Oooh, shall we talk about the time two very well known Vikings players were caught in a compromising situation with an underage girl?

@ChrisWarcraft: Bet you didn't hear about that one in the news. We can do this all day, Vikings. Special teams hears *everything*.

http://deadspin.com/5165714/the-one-where-the-vikings-let-us-know-their-players-did-not-bone-underage-girls

Allegedly Tanard Jackson and Sidney Rice

 

[Henry Ford]

Vikings suspend coach Mike Priefer for 3 games after investigation confirms Chris Kluwe's claims

Yes, sure, but that's the only part they were lying about that turns out to be a bunch of lies. Definitely. Unless you find proof of other stuff, and then that's the only stuff.

 

[skol asylum]

Kluwe is such a friggin diva. His case might have been helped a bit if he had an NFL team actually interested in his punting skills. Stop stirring the pot and move on and enjoy the millions this horrible franchise gave you that is affording you your prima donna sanctimonious life style. I bet Zimmer loves the distraction this idiot is for his new team.

 

[avoiding injuries]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

 

[Cjw_55106]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

[SIZE=medium]Exactly. My favorite part of the whole investigation is his hypocrisy. He justifies it the same way a guy telling gay jokes would. Everyone was making fun of it. I only said it once. He was a Penn State guy…[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]The only one that looks OK in this stupidity is Cullen Loeffler. [/SIZE]

 

[Henry Ford]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

 

[TobiasFunke]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Not sure where I saw this comment, but it was spot on: "Chris Kluwe made pedophilia jokes" is the new "Al Gore has a private plane." People who don't like the person or the underlying point try to play "gotcha" by drumming up some perceived hypocrisy instead of addressing the substance.

 

[Hang 10]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

 

[Greggity]

I hope someone breaks his punting leg, blouses.....

 

[roadkill1292]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

You're full of crap. The moral high ground has already been clearly established in this issue and a couple of moronic statements won't change that.

 

[TobiasFunke]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

 

[Hang 10]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

 

[TobiasFunke]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

"Glass houses" is a trite saying, not an actual point. And yes, offensive things get said in locker rooms all the time. That doesn't make all those things equally worthy of condemnation.

Seems like you made up your mind a long time ago and you're more concerned with Kluwe's character than what he claims.

Finally, LOL at calling an NFL player an "attention whore." No ####. Every player in the league is an attention whore. Their chosen profession is playing a game in front of 80,000 screaming drunks and millions of people watching on television. If they didn't like attention they wouldn't be pro football players.

 

[Hang 10]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

"Glass houses" is a trite saying, not an actual point. And yes, offensive things get said in locker rooms all the time. That doesn't make all those things equally worthy of condemnation.

Seems like you made up your mind a long time ago and you're more concerned with Kluwe's character than what he claims.

Finally, LOL at calling an NFL player an "attention whore." No ####. Every player in the league is an attention whore. Their chosen profession is playing a game in front of 80,000 screaming drunks and millions of people watching on television. If they didn't like attention they wouldn't be pro football players.

Yeah, you're right. Making light of kids getting raped is worse.

But no, not every football player is an attention whore. Most don't even writes op-eds for deadspin and calls people lustful cockmonsters.

 

[TobiasFunke]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

"Glass houses" is a trite saying, not an actual point. And yes, offensive things get said in locker rooms all the time. That doesn't make all those things equally worthy of condemnation.

Seems like you made up your mind a long time ago and you're more concerned with Kluwe's character than what he claims.

Finally, LOL at calling an NFL player an "attention whore." No ####. Every player in the league is an attention whore. Their chosen profession is playing a game in front of 80,000 screaming drunks and millions of people watching on television. If they didn't like attention they wouldn't be pro football players.

Yeah, you're right. Making light of kids getting raped is worse.

But no, not every football player is an attention whore. Most don't even writes op-eds for deadspin and calls people lustful cockmonsters.

Making Penn State jokes is not worse than firing someone for being a pro-gay rights advocate. Pretty sure that's self-evident.

Writing amusing op-eds for deadspin doesn't make you an attention whore. It makes you someone who believes in something and wants to advocate for it. Seems like you have a bigger problem with that than with any of the thousands of other attention-getting things other pro athletes choose to do every year. I kind of suspect it's because you don't like his message.

 

[Hang 10]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

"Glass houses" is a trite saying, not an actual point. And yes, offensive things get said in locker rooms all the time. That doesn't make all those things equally worthy of condemnation.

Seems like you made up your mind a long time ago and you're more concerned with Kluwe's character than what he claims.

Finally, LOL at calling an NFL player an "attention whore." No ####. Every player in the league is an attention whore. Their chosen profession is playing a game in front of 80,000 screaming drunks and millions of people watching on television. If they didn't like attention they wouldn't be pro football players.

Yeah, you're right. Making light of kids getting raped is worse.

But no, not every football player is an attention whore. Most don't even writes op-eds for deadspin and calls people lustful cockmonsters.

Making Penn State jokes is not worse than firing someone for being a pro-gay rights advocate. Pretty sure that's self-evident.

Writing amusing op-eds for deadspin doesn't make you an attention whore. It makes you someone who believes in something and wants to advocate for it. Seems like you have a bigger problem with that than with any of the thousands of other attention-getting things other pro athletes choose to do every year. I kind of suspect it's because you don't like his message.

Pretty sure even Kluwe himself realizes he didn't get fired for being a gay right advocate. Being old, expensive and easily replaceable got him fired.

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

From the Deadspin article... In Kluwe's mind- homophobic comments/jokes are not ok, but jokes about pedophiles and child molestation are.

If only there were a relevant difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. You know, one that made it okay to make fun of pedophiles.

Give me a break. Homosexuality and pedophilia don't need to be same to make Kluwe out to be a hypocrite. He's whole case is based on getting the PC police on his side and he basically nukes (til it glows) by making jokes about little kids getting raped. Kluwe has no moral high ground.

If someone points out a problem, the problem isn't lessened just because you're able to find some instance where the accuser or whistleblower did something else that some people don't like, especially if the things are basically unrelated. That's just silly.

Glass houses. Just looks like to me that offensive things get said by all in locker rooms. Did you really need a lawsuit or an investigation to reach this conclusion? The main point of story is and has always been Kluwe being an attention whore.

"Glass houses" is a trite saying, not an actual point. And yes, offensive things get said in locker rooms all the time. That doesn't make all those things equally worthy of condemnation.

Seems like you made up your mind a long time ago and you're more concerned with Kluwe's character than what he claims.

Finally, LOL at calling an NFL player an "attention whore." No ####. Every player in the league is an attention whore. Their chosen profession is playing a game in front of 80,000 screaming drunks and millions of people watching on television. If they didn't like attention they wouldn't be pro football players.

Yeah, you're right. Making light of kids getting raped is worse.

But no, not every football player is an attention whore. Most don't even writes op-eds for deadspin and calls people lustful cockmonsters.

What were these jokes you're talking about?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Pretty sure even Kluwe himself realizes he didn't get fired for being a gay right advocate. Being old, expensive and easily replaceable got him fired.

I tend to agree, but that's what the mess is about. Not whether saying you want to nuke the gays is worse than a Sandusky joke. I mean it obviously is, but that's not the point.

 

[Hang 10]

Pretty sure even Kluwe himself realizes he didn't get fired for being a gay right advocate. Being old, expensive and easily replaceable got him fired.

I tend to agree, but that's what the mess is about. Not whether saying you want to nuke the gays is worse than a Sandusky joke. I mean it obviously is, but that's not the point.

That's all I'm saying. Kluwe has some flimsy lawsuit based mostly on Phiefer's comments and now it comes out that Kluwe himself said some very un-PC stuff himself. Maybe where we disagree is that I think this should just be the end of it. Kluwe just comes off like a diva and those guys don't last long in NFL when their skills start to diminish.

 

[Joe Summer]

Kluwe had it coming because he dressed like a slut.

 

[rct]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/19/vikings-chris-kluwe-announce-settlement-of-dispute-over-kluwes-departure/

Vikings, Chris Kluwe announce settlement of dispute over Kluwes departure

Posted by Josh Alper on August 19, 2014, 10:44 AM EDT

Last week, word came from the lawyer for former Vikings punter Chris Kluwe that his client and the team had reached agreement on a settlement of the issues related to Kluwes departure from the team in 2013.

The two sides made that settlement official on Tuesday with a joint press release.

As a family we have long-supported equal rights causes, including marriage equality, said Vikings Owner/President Mark Wilf in the release. We are glad a resolution of this matter has been reached, and we look forward to continuing our efforts to create positive awareness of these issues.

Im pleased that the issue has been resolved, said Kluwe. I intend to continue to speak out on behalf of marriage equality, and I am pleased to be a part of the impact the Vikings material charitable contributions will have on LGBT and related causes.

Kluwe alleged that he was let go by the team because of his outspoken support of marriage equality and that special teams coach Mike Priefer made homophobic remarks during the 2012 season. The Vikings released the report of an investigation into the allegations that found Kluwe was released for football reasons and the team suspended Priefer for up to three games for what the report said was one homophobic comment. Kluwe contemplated litigation, but the settlement puts an end to that possibility.

As part of the settlement, the Vikings will donate money to five LGBT groups over the next five years. The amount of money was not disclosed, though Kluwes lawyer Clayton Halunen called it substantial

Everybody knows the numbers we have been talking about over the past seven months, Halunen said, via Chris Tomasson of the Pioneer Press. Its substantial Chris will receive absolutely nothing from this settlement.

In the release, the Vikings also promised to continue to enhance its sensitivity training policy in the wake of Priefers suspension.

 

[snogger]

Hopefully that is the last we EVER hear from this wash-up.. Unfortunately I don't think it will be.

 

[McGarnicle]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/19/vikings-chris-kluwe-announce-settlement-of-dispute-over-kluwes-departure/Vikings, Chris Kluwe announce settlement of dispute over Kluwes departurePosted by Josh Alper on August 19, 2014, 10:44 AM EDTLast week, word came from the lawyer for former Vikings punter Chris Kluwe that his client and the team had reached agreement on a settlement of the issues related to Kluwes departure from the team in 2013.The two sides made that settlement official on Tuesday with a joint press release.As a family we have long-supported equal rights causes, including marriage equality, said Vikings Owner/President Mark Wilf in the release. We are glad a resolution of this matter has been reached, and we look forward to continuing our efforts to create positive awareness of these issues.Im pleased that the issue has been resolved, said Kluwe. I intend to continue to speak out on behalf of marriage equality, and I am pleased to be a part of the impact the Vikings material charitable contributions will have on LGBT and related causes.Kluwe alleged that he was let go by the team because of his outspoken support of marriage equality and that special teams coach Mike Priefer made homophobic remarks during the 2012 season. The Vikings released the report of an investigation into the allegations that found Kluwe was released for football reasons and the team suspended Priefer for up to three games for what the report said was one homophobic comment. Kluwe contemplated litigation, but the settlement puts an end to that possibility.As part of the settlement, the Vikings will donate money to five LGBT groups over the next five years. The amount of money was not disclosed, though Kluwes lawyer Clayton Halunen called it substantialEverybody knows the numbers we have been talking about over the past seven months, Halunen said, via Chris Tomasson of the Pioneer Press. Its substantial Chris will receive absolutely nothing from this settlement.In the release, the Vikings also promised to continue to enhance its sensitivity training policy in the wake of Priefers suspension.

Apostrophes and quotation marks could not be reached for comment.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Kluwe seems normal...

Chris Kluwe: “I hope you all, every #Gamergater, picks up a debilitating case of genital warts”

Salonhttp://www.salon.com/2014/10/21/chris_kluwe_i_hope_you_all_every_gamergater_picks_up_a_debilitating_case_of_genital_warts/

Chris Kluwe, former punter for the Minnesota Vikings and outspoken cultural critic, wrote a scathing takedown of #Gamergate and the gamers involved. (I’d personally love to carefully curate each creative insult, hilarious alliteration and blistering description.)

First, what is #Gamergate? Kluwe has one of the better, more succinct descriptions of this “scandal” in the gaming community. Among other things, #Gamgergate has revealed a simmering cesspool of misogyny and anger, which has resulted in death threats made against female developers and cultural critics like Anita Sarkeesian. Kluwe describes:

“#Gamergate, for those unaware, is what happened a bit over a month ago, where an angry neckbeard posted demonstrably false allegations about his ex-girlfriend, claiming she slept with video game site reviewers for better scores for her games (again, demonstrably false), and then a whole bunch of other angry neckbeards on the Internet went full Denis Dyack and spitfrothed themselves into national attention by making an array of threats on numerous female game developers, including ones about their death, tried to hide behind a shield of ‘it’s about journalistic ethics because they said gamers are dead,’ and generally proved why the Internet needs to be burned to the ground and the ashes salted. If you’re curious about the details, here’s a good background link.”

With the inflammatory speech, this is the exact takedown the entire #Gamergate community deserves. However, looking beyond the spectacular insults, Kluwe makes some excellent points about the entire issue.

Kluwe isn’t very fond of the #Gamergaters, whom he describes as “a blithering collection of wannabe Wikipedia philosophers, drunk on your own buzzwords, incapable of forming an original thought.” Kluwe takes issue with them because he is a gamer.

“I’ve been made fun of by the jocks, even when I was on the football team,” Kluwe writes. “Gaming is part of who I am, I can promise you that.”

And Kluwe dislikes all the misogyny and name calling and “tantrum throwing” because he is glad that “gamers are dead”:

“Thus, when I see an article titled “Gamers are dead,” referring to the death of the popular trope of a pasty young man in a dimly lit room, it fills me with joy, because it means WE ####### WON. So many people are playing games now that they are popular culture. They are not going away. All sorts of cool things, that I like, are now things that a whole bunch of other people like! There’s enough space now for people to make games that are strange and disturbing and maybe highlight a different perspective of the world, because gaming is no longer a niche activity, it’s something that everybody does. There is room for art in video games. That’s awesome!

“You slopebrowed weaseldicks with zero reading comprehension and even less critical thinking skills who think an article claiming ‘Gamers are dead’ is something bad? #### me sideways with a sandblaster.”

Point taken. Kluwe also tears down the knee-jerk, terrifying misogynistic component that has come to define #Gamergate, which he describes as such:

“a) Making misogynistic threats against a wide variety of female game developers and critics because somehow they’re going to keep games you enjoy from ever being made again”

or

b) Being stupid enough to get sucked in by people busy making misogynistic threats against a wide variety of female game developers and critics, and supporting their idiotic crusade for the dumbing down of everyone everywhere ever.”

Beyond the fact that treating other humans this way is terrible, Kluwe does not want gamers associated with death threats, which forced founder of Feminist Frequency Anita Sarkeesian to cancel an event at Utah State University, or with incessant harassment of female developers.

“When people think of ‘gamers,’ I want them to think of Child’s Play, and athletes who play competitive League of Legends, and all the normalization we’ve accomplished over the years,” Kluwe states.

“I want them to think of feminism, and games as an art form — something more than mass entertainment. I want them to think of all the amazing things that video games have done, and can do, because that means we get to keep playing more games.”

The biggest threat to #Gamergaters, according to Kluwe? Themselves.

“You, #Gamergaters, with your bilious Internet rage, you think you’re speaking for some core demographic, some historic legacy, but you’re not. You’re speaking for a lie trapped inside your mind; a lie that one somehow has to be “hardcore” in order to appreciate games; a lie formed by social ineptitude and too much time spent picturing yourself as the only creature that matters in the universe. A lie about male power and privilege, and how dare those women try to ruin your fun? (No matter whose expense you’re having it at). The lie you tell yourselves is one completely incapable of recognizing just how far society has come — that equality is important, and that the tech industry has been misogynistic for a very long time, and that we need to change that, and we’re in the process of doing so, despite the mouthvomits you like to pretend are logical trains of thought.”

In terms of ethics in gaming journalism Kluwe makes this point:

“In fact, #Gamergaters, if your concern really was ethics, the very first thing you would be saying about this whole mess is, ‘Holy ####, get these ####### misogynistic creeps away from us. Let’s find a different hashtag to assemble under RIGHT ####### NOW.’ You’d be doing everything in your power to make sure the legitimate cause you’re concerned about wasn’t hijacked or used as a shield by those with no other agenda than to make women and minorities afraid, simply because they can. You wouldn’t defend the oppression of someone simply based on their gender (because let’s be real honest here, I haven’t seen a single #Gamergater go after Activision, or Ubisoft, or Rockstar), and you definitely wouldn’t concoct ever-more wild conspiracy theories to support your increasingly flawed view of reality.”

“I’ve spent too long as a gamer, seen too much progress made, to let you tarnish that name,” Kluwe concludes. “I hope you all, every #Gamergater, picks up a debilitating case of genital warts. The rest of you — find a different hashtag.”

 

[EYLive]

I like this guy.

If Charlie Sheen was ever clever enough to say/write any of these things the media would line up on their knees to blow him.

 

[T Bell]

I've followed Kluwe on Twitter over the last couple of months. He's an interesting follow but he definitely is a drama queen who loves attention and likes casting himself as some sort of hero fighting for justice in the gaming world.