"Citizenfour" 2/23/2015 (1 Viewer)

[IC FBGCav]

I am pretty interested in watching this. I was very intrigued with Snowden from the 60 minutes interview. Not really sure where I stand on what he did.

 

[Jack White]

Have this loaded and locked on my DVR.

Snowden is a true American hero, with an assist from Grunwald.

 

[cstu]

Saw this and he's a hero in my book.

 

[Clifford]

What channel?

 

[cstu]

What channel?

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11704491/_Citizenfour.2014.HDRiP_Xvid

NSFW

 

[IC FBGCav]

Did Snowden make any difference?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Did Snowden make any difference?

To what?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Interesting stuff, but very boring delivery.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Did Snowden make any difference?

To what?

With govt transparency of spying on their citizens without oversight.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Interesting stuff, but very boring delivery.

I agree. I would rather they got more technical than the fixing hair bits.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Did Snowden make any difference?

To what?

With govt transparency of spying on their citizens without oversight.

Too early to know, I think.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Elected officials are puppets. We fight about them. This is wizard of oz crap. The people running things are not elected and behind the curtain. They use fear and "safety" to control. They people who wrote the constitution would never stand for this. The country they created is 100 times worse then the one they left for freedom.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

 

[IC FBGCav]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

He was in foreign countries.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Interesting stuff, but very boring delivery.

I agree. I would rather they got more technical than the fixing hair bits.

just waaaayyy too many minutes of just tinkering around the rooms or him just looking out the window. Could have easily trimmed down 1/3 of the run time. Docs are probably my favorite movie genre, but i had a helluva time making it through this one.

 

[Jack White]

Elected officials are puppets. We fight about them. This is wizard of oz crap. The people running things are not elected and behind the curtain. They use fear and "safety" to control. They people who wrote the constitution would never stand for this. The country they created is 100 times worse then the one they left for freedom.

I agree with a lot of this, except the constitution part.

The constitution is a blueprint for an overbearing state apparatus, not individual liberty.

The country they created was worse than the one they left as early as the Whiskey Rebellion, if not earlier.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

He was in foreign countries.

He was in Hong Kong. Not sure why that would matter.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

He was in foreign countries.

He was in Hong Kong. Not sure why that would matter.

Hong Kong is considered China

 

[Willie Neslon]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

He was in foreign countries.

He was in Hong Kong. Not sure why that would matter.

Hong Kong is considered China

I'm not sure what your point is. He's talking about the possibility of the door being kicked in at one point. They get freaked out by the fire alarm. For sure he was worried about CIA types grabbing him, putting a hood on him and stuffing him in a van.

 

[Amused to Death]

As others mentioned it humanized Snowden and I found it very interesting. However I thought the PBS Frontline United States of Secrets was better. Infuriated me more. But Citizenfour was still pretty good.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I thought it was great. It humanized snowden for sure. i think that was the idea with the hair bit.

One thing I don't understand is how he hasn't been detained yet. How were they able to meet with him after the news broke? Greenwald went on tv and disclosed this stuff but he wasn't worried about being followed back to snowden's hotel? Lawyers and press were calling Snowden's room but the feds couldn't find him? Has he had that mole checked out?

He was in foreign countries.

He was in Hong Kong. Not sure why that would matter.

Hong Kong is considered China

I'm not sure what your point is. He's talking about the possibility of the door being kicked in at one point. They get freaked out by the fire alarm. For sure he was worried about CIA types grabbing him, putting a hood on him and stuffing him in a van.

He was worried about us influencing China to grab him or the US kicking in the door and killing him with a Jack Ruby taking the fall.

 

[cstu]

Elected officials are puppets. We fight about them. This is wizard of oz crap. The people running things are not elected and behind the curtain. They use fear and "safety" to control. They people who wrote the constitution would never stand for this. The country they created is 100 times worse then the one they left for freedom.

I agree with a lot of this, except the constitution part.

The constitution is a blueprint for an overbearing state apparatus, not individual liberty.

The country they created was worse than the one they left as early as the Whiskey Rebellion, if not earlier.

 

[cstu]

As others mentioned it humanized Snowden and I found it very interesting. However I thought the PBS Frontline United States of Secrets was better. Infuriated me more. But Citizenfour was still pretty good.

Haven't seen that but a lot of what Snowden talked about was in Terms and Conditions May Apply.

 

[Amused to Death]

As others mentioned it humanized Snowden and I found it very interesting. However I thought the PBS Frontline United States of Secrets was better. Infuriated me more. But Citizenfour was still pretty good.

Haven't seen that but a lot of what Snowden talked about was in Terms and Conditions May Apply.

The Frontline piece is on Netflix and online at PBS.org, 2 episodes - 1st is about 2 hrs, the 2nd is an hour. Details how the NSA programs were initiated, through interviews with the people involved. It will piss you off.

I did catch T&CMA on Netflix a while ago. Very good as well.

 

[PIK95]

I thought it was VG and pretty scary.

 

[cstu]

As others mentioned it humanized Snowden and I found it very interesting. However I thought the PBS Frontline United States of Secrets was better. Infuriated me more. But Citizenfour was still pretty good.

Haven't seen that but a lot of what Snowden talked about was in Terms and Conditions May Apply.

The Frontline piece is on Netflix and online at PBS.org, 2 episodes - 1st is about 2 hrs, the 2nd is an hour. Details how the NSA programs were initiated, through interviews with the people involved. It will piss you off.I did catch T&CMA on Netflix a while ago. Very good as well.

I haven't been pissed off enough today, thanks!

 

[Christo]

Elected officials are puppets. We fight about them. This is wizard of oz crap. The people running things are not elected and behind the curtain. They use fear and "safety" to control. They people who wrote the constitution would never stand for this. The country they created is 100 times worse then the one they left for freedom.

I agree with a lot of this, except the constitution part.

The constitution is a blueprint for an overbearing state apparatus, not individual liberty.

The country they created was worse than the one they left as early as the Whiskey Rebellion, if not earlier.

HFS